General Discussion, Friday, February 15, 2019

You must remember this
A kiss is just a kiss
A sigh is just a sigh
The fundamental things apply
As time goes by

And when two lovers woo
They still say “I love you”
On that you can rely
No matter what the future brings
As time goes by

Moonlight and love songs
Never out of date
Hearts full of passion
Jealousy and hate
Woman needs man, and man must have his mate
That no one can deny

It’s still the same old story
A fight for love and glory
A case of do or die
The world will always welcome lovers
As time goes by

Songwriter: Herman Hupfeld
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107 Responses to General Discussion, Friday, February 15, 2019

  1. Lucille says:


    Why not keep Valentine’s Day the whole year through?

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  2. President Trump’s Praetorian Guard by Imperator Rex::

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    • lovely says:

      I knew Schiller’s retirement didn’t make sense! But I did suggest that he was likely shaking off the shackles of DC and still working for President Trump in some capacity. The money issue never made sense.

      Knock them out Team Keith !

      It’s difficult to pinpoint when he (President Trump) felt the timing was right to seriously commit to a White House run, but Trump’s anger and mounting concern about the direction and corruption of the Obama administration was clear.

      I have speculated on this before, in my opinion what tipped the scales for citizen Trump was Obama and Clinton. President Trump simply refused to let them turn America into a Dictatorship. And foremost in his mind I believe was what kind of country was he going to leave behind for his children and grandchildren.

      President Trump is ready to die for our liberty, he has said as much. He is all in.

      I think Rex is spot on here.

      As I have argued repeatedly for years, anyone who seeks to understand Trump’s strategic genius, must become familiar with Sun Tzu.

      Amen Brother Rex 🙂 . I think I just quoted Sun Tzu in the context of President Trump’s playbook yesterday. If you view President Trump through the eyes of Sun Tzu many, many things make sense.

      If you haven’t read The Art of War please do. It is a short book. You could easily read it in one sitting.

      By January 15, there were more Congressional resignations in one session, than at any time at least 117 years: 


      This is right out of The Art of War;

      Unlike the allegations against Trump himself, which are never supported by any credible evidence and hence always fail, there’s an MO that connects many of these takedowns and indicate that Trump’s Praetorian are almost certainly behind them.

      The key indicator is professionalism. These attacks use the tradecraft of experienced spooks – intelligence, preparation, timing and deniability. After analyzing these hits in some detail, I can identify five key characteristics.

      First, the targeting is always strategic. Second, there is always credible evidence that is produced, to back up the allegation. Third, the evidence is leaked to media, in a way that they cannot ignore. Fourth, those behind the hits keep damning information back, using only what they require to achieve the objective. Fifth, the execution is always timed for maximum impact, which is evidence of detailed planning.

      About the war.

      Arrogant, lazy and not very intelligent, they have been outmaneuvered by brilliant strategists such as Trump – and very professional operators such as Schiller and his team, who know how to wreak havoc from hidden places.

      I have been expressing this very sentiment for a long time. Remember who Donald Trump is. We can’t view this war using our old vantage points.

      President Trump has moved everything and he has set the enemies from those sleeping in their Ivory Towers to those sleeping in the foul smelling trenches into to total chaos.

      The enemies of the Republic are evil, cruel people who will stop at nothing to increase their power and wealth. This includes destroying the lives of innocent people, or worse. I have no pity or sympathy, for any of them.__Rex

      We know of our evil enemies. But we only know what is on the surface, we see the tip of the iceberg, President Trump sees the entire hideous best. And President Trump has a meticulous plan with a million moving pieces in the works to defeat that beast.

      We are watching an incredible Master Piece being painted before our very eyes. Only the artist has the true vision of what will be on the canvas once it is finished.

      Bravo! Rex, Schiller, The Praetorian Guard and to everyone who will not kneel and worship at the altar of our destruction but instead fight in whatever way we can against the devil’s army.

      What kind of fool makes this man their enemy? (

      Picture from Rex’s article.

      “I’m a very stable genius.”__The affable, formidable, revolutionary, guileful, President Donald J Trump

      If__Rudyard Kipling

      If you can keep your head when all about you
      Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
      If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
      But make allowance for their doubting too;
      If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
      Or being lied about, don’t deal in lies,
      Or being hated, don’t give way to hating,
      And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise:

      If you can dream—and not make dreams your master;
      If you can think—and not make thoughts your aim;
      If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
      And treat those two impostors just the same;
      If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken
      Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
      Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
      And stoop and build ’em up with worn-out tools:

      If you can make one heap of all your winnings
      And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
      And lose, and start again at your beginnings
      And never breathe a word about your loss;
      If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
      To serve your turn long after they are gone,
      And so hold on when there is nothing in you
      Except the Will which says to them: ‘Hold on!’

      If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
      Or walk with Kings—nor lose the common touch,
      If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
      If all men count with you, but none too much;
      If you can fill the unforgiving minute
      With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run,
      Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
      And—which is more—you’ll be a Man, my son!

      A PS from me (that I just remembered).

      Some of you may remember that I said Anthony Scaramucci was on a very popular Millennial show “Big Brother” I said it was likely he was there to influence millennials and humanize President Trump to a segment of the population that doesn’t think beyond the histrionics of the MSM’s mantra “Orange man bad.”

      Anthony’s net worth is 200 millions dollars, what is he doing on a nutcase show?

      It turns out Anthony was only on the show for two episodes and then the show did something like a reveal that one of the house guests wasn’t a real guest, of course it was Anthony who had left the house.

      Anthony said one thing on the show that made me raise my eyebrow. It changed or modified my thoughts on why Anthony was on the show.

      “President Trump went to DC to drain the swamp, what he didn’t know is that the swamp may not have a drain”__Anthony Scaramucci

      We are watching the swamp drain, slowly for sure as there are many clogs, but it is draining, we are watching the fall of the democratic middle men, the democrats are going to civil war, and Mooch is crying about there is no drain?

      The Supreme Court is being returned to its Constitutional roots.

      Yet Scaramucci is on a hugely popular television show watched by loads of mind numb zombies saying “There is no hope.”

      So my amendment in my thought is that yes the Mooch was there to influence the low information voter but he was also there to lull the political elites into a deeper stupor.

      This again is classic Sun Tzu.

      “All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.” ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

      Poor President Trump is weak, poor fellow he never in his wildest dreams imagined that the swamp had no drain. Fret. Fret. Fret.

      Weak like a sleeping tiger.

      “Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.”
      ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

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      • auscitizenmom says:

        Well, well, now. Having read that article by Rex, I see this from a whole new perspective.

        “Army investigator involved in Green Beret’s murder case accused of stolen valor”

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      • I knew you’d be happy about Schiller. He’s such an assset to President Trump and knowing he still has our President’s back is very comforting. I’d hoped that was the case. Thank you for expanding on the post. It feels like really big things are about to come down the pipe, especially considering the timing of Rex’s article. 😊

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        • lovely says:

          Wictor has been writing along with Rex and Cates about President Trump’s secret forces and the fact that citizen Trump has been moving the pieces into place for at least 30 years.

          And yes! About Schiller. It was so weird that he just left. Now not so much. I have noticed that the bald and not so young, Secret Service agent who was Schiller’s pal, seems to be the closet to President Trump.

          In fact I think I have a picture of them here in Wisconsin together though I may have deleted it.

          Thank you Sand.

          What democrat will fall today? What democrat will be eaten by its own? What democrat will moonwalk? Tune in same Trump time same Trump place.

          Thanks for posting Rex’s article Sand 🙂 .

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          • auscitizenmom says:

            I find myself getting the giggles over AOC. She is a REAL thorn in the whole Demonrats side. And, wait until the people in NY realize what she has done. A loss of jobs.

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            • lovely says:

              I have some time today I’m going to try and do some research on her.

              I’m interested in her brother. Who is he? Why would he recommend her to Justice Democrats as a candidate? Was she really a fan of William F Buckley Jr?

              She has a quality that I cannot put my finger on and it bothers me.

              Looking at her I do not see demonic. Looking at Hillary or Obama I have long seen demonic.

              I think that she is extremely immature, maybe 15 years old emotionally. I don’t know she is a case that is for sure.

              I almost feel like a nut case because i keep hearing Thomas Wictor whisper “Judas Goat” (he hasn’t said this of her as far as I know) but there is definitely a missing piece in our understanding of Ocasio.

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              • auscitizenmom says:

                The way I see her, she can be a charming, appealing little girl type woman, and on the other hand, she is an idiot. I think she was chosen because she can pull people in and make them believe she is sincere. But, more and more, I believe she is going to be an albatross around the neck of the Dems. LOLOLOL

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          • You’re welcome! Well…. President Trump just called out Obama, Pelosi, Schumer, and to a lesser extent Paul Ryan. And it’s only 10:35! Love how things are really starting to ramp up!

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  3. nyetneetot says:

    One week down, a few more to go. Mrs N has decided we are going to take pictures this weekend. No. Not in NYC. We go elsewhere. Maybe Trump will notice me getting beaten for taking bad pictures outside and invite us in for coffee.

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  4. WeeWeed says:

    Mornin’ all!

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  5. lovely says:

    1) How is this for a delicious scenario?

    John Dowd: Mueller Won’t Release a Report Following ‘Fraud’ Investigation

    Former White House attorney John Dowd on Monday disparaged Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation as a “one of the greatest frauds this country’s ever seen,” and predicted that Mueller would not produce the comprehensive report so many lawmakers and pundits are anticipating and calling for.

    “I don’t think there’ll be a report,” Dowd told ABC News during an interview for the premiere episode of the The Investigation podcast. “I will be shocked if anything regarding the president is made public, other than, ‘We’re done.’”

    Mueller is required to provide an accounting of his investigation to the attorney general, who must then decide what information should be shared with Congress and what information, if any, should me made available to the public. Trump’s attorney general nominee, William Barr, told lawmakers during his confirmation hearing that he would like to make public as much information as possible but did not make any specific promises.

    2) The civil war taking place in the Democrat Party.

    “Trying to use the 25th Amendment to try and circumvent the Election is a despicable act of unconstitutional power grabbing…which happens in third world countries. You have to obey the law. This is an attack on our system & Constitution.”__ Alan Dershowitz.

    3) Double dipped malted milk balls.

    4) The faith that dogs have in us.

    5) Where’s Ruth Bader Ginsburg? Who is weighing in with her opinion in court decisions?

    6) Laughing with friends.

    7) Blueberries.

    8) Avocados.

    9) The first day of the year when you can open your windows and let the fresh air in after a long winter.

    10) The Faith of St. Bernard by John Emms

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  6. Lucille says:

    THE THOMAS CROWN AFFAIR (1968) “Windmills Of Your Mind” – Noel Harrison

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  7. michellc says:

    I doubt the Senate Bill to abolish abortion in Oklahoma will ever even make it to the floor, but one thing it is doing is exposing those who claim to be pro-life.

    Just a few things from “Republican Conservative Pro-Life” individuals I’ve seen in the past few days.

    The Supreme Court has ruled abortion Constitutional so making abortion illegal or even these heartbeat bills states are passing is stupid and will be struck down, costing taxpayers millions of dollars.
    All these bills are a Religious crusade, which violates the Constitution, making all of you no different than the Taliban.
    You must limit the demand, before you can limit supply.
    We have to face it Pro-Life is the minority, so we need to change hearts, not criminalize victims.
    You people need to leave it to those of us who have studied this and know how to chip away at abortion, you are setting our movement back 40 years.
    So I guess all of you support criminalizing ectopic pregnancy procedures?
    I am pro-life, but we can’t go passing laws that will be overturned because it costs us too much money. We need to educate women that it is a life not a clump of cells, that is how we protect life.

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    • lovely says:

      A pro-life person said this?

      You people need to leave it to those of us who have studied this and know how to chip away at abortion, you are setting our movement back 40 years.

      46 years of slaughtering innocent babies in the womb and this numbskull talks about “chipping away at abortion” and leaving it to those who know what they’re doing? How misguidedly grotesque.

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      • michellc says:

        They’re all grotesque, the sad thing is some of these people saying such things I once admired or at least thought were on our side. Some I had seen through them long ago.
        I’m glad they’re exposing themselves, but it sure has me questioning my judgment, because about half of them certainly had me fooled.

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        • lovely says:

          I think all of us were fooled by a lot of these people. It is hard for people who are honest to comprehend that so many people are simply outright liars. They have no interest in restoring America, no interest in vouchsafing the right to life, their sole loyalty is to their power and pocketbook and they will do anything, be anyone, to maintain their status.

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          • michellc says:

            Many of these have been respected political figures in this state, always involved with influencing opinions on candidates, involved in Republican party at all levels and some write or run Oklahoma conservative newspapers, blogs, etc.

            The one that got me the most though is the one who wrote how we need to leave it to them. He has always been involved in pro-life rallies on the national and state level and raising money for pro-life groups.

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            • lovely says:

              I think many people’s minds and hearts get darkened when they have power and they seem to think that they are their banner rather than their words and actions.

              I recently left an organization that I had volunteered for, for over a decade.

              They decided criminals were more worthy of our help than victims. I don’t regret my time or money I donated to them because I saw it directly help and change lives. Now when people ask me why I am not with the organization any longer their eyes get like saucers when they hear where their money is going.


              A friend, just donated $10,000 to them right before I quit, if I had known that he was going to do it I would have told him not to, I do feel guilt because I know he donated it because of my work with them but I felt that until the organization proved that it was really going down the wrong way that it was not my place to “gossip” about it to outsiders.

              The worse thing we do as good people is pretend that bad people or misguided people are not doing harm. I wish I had spoken up sooner.

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              • michellc says:

                One of the gentleman told me his views have changed over the years because after talking to many Libertarians he realized he was using his Faith to guide him on political issues.
                So although his personal belief is abortion is the taking of a life, government at all levels and all branches need to stay out of it.
                That as Christians we need to stop using our Bible to influence politics because Constitutionally it’s wrong and it’s also Biblical.

                I haven’t responded back to that one yet, because my first thought is maybe you need to quit letting Libertarians, who many on here proudly state they are agnostic, to influence you.

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                • stella says:

                  My answer? Even atheists believe murder is a crime.

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                  • michellc says:

                    According to these particular Libertarian atheists it is not murder until it is not invading a body.

                    The few Libertarians who have commented saying they’re pro-life and Libertarians need to stop saying that all Libertarians believe it should be legal to murder babies are told they’re not wanted or welcome in the Libertarian party.


                  • stella says:

                    Maybe not, but your so-called Christian correspondents do believe it is the taking of a life (or they should). That’s murder.

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                  • michellc says:

                    I’m starting to wonder if some of them do.

                    I am reading a few of them who are saying they believe it’s murder, but not all murder is criminal nor should be.

                    I’m not commenting now, just reading through all the nonsense and it’s becoming even more insane. They’re honestly discussing a one day old baby and some arguing the government shouldn’t be involved with the murder of it either.
                    At least this one man who has seemed to have lost his way said that should be criminal.
                    What is sad is how many Oklahomans are agreeing with the man on allowing the murder of an infant, one of them ran on the Libertarian ticket.

                    I’m going to have to take a break for the night, just can’t read anymore or even have a conversation with evil.

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                  • stella says:

                    Good decision.

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                  • michellc says:

                    My DH read some of it and he said it’s hard to tell the difference between the Republicans, Democrats and Libertarians, the pro-choice from pro-life and even worse the Christians from the atheists.

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                • lovely says:

                  Tell him Libertarianism does not replace God’s law or scientific law. It is his moral duty to educate Libertarians who are ignorant of science.

                  Libertarianism promotes a subjective moral law, if you don’t pay into the fire department fund and your house catches fire then there is no secular moral obligation to help your neighbor to save his home.

                  I have yet to meet a Libertarian who believes that there should not be laws against murder so the gentleman is failing to educate his Libertarian friends.

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                  • michellc says:

                    I couldn’t (can’t) read anymore tonight.

                    I really think he needs the advice our Pastor gave a young girl once, who was immature in her faith, “a Christian has to be strong and careful when attempting to lead someone to Christ that they are not led astray.”

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                  • michellc says:

                    That is what it sounds like to me he let them influence him.

                    I just don’t know how we became so lucky to get the craziest of the crazy Libertarians, hopefully they don’t spread.

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          • michellc says:

            BTW, they don’t much appreciate me telling him that obviously the pro-life movement has a lot of enemies working from within.

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    • jeans2nd says:

      michell, it is not just the pro-life groups. My listening adventures run through the think-tanks and so-called conservatives. They all, to a one, are intent on preserving the institution, not the outcome, and certainly not the people.

      Listening to Ben Shapiro this p.m., was floored to hear him say the only true conservatives left were David Brookes, Bill Krystal, and himself, that preserving true conservatism was more important than the suicidal out-of-work manufacturing workers, and so much more. They fully intend to rid themselves of us.

      They are all like this.
      So do not feel bad. You are in good company – about 65 million of us.

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      • michellc says:

        So many have shown their true colors.

        A friend of mine who doesn’t get into the discussions on FB, but reads all of them, called me and told me how disgusted she was. She has withdrawn her monthly donations for two of these publications due to what they’re writing on FB.

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  8. Lucille says:

    Rainy streets put me in a nostalgic mood…

    “Waiting For You” – Vladimir Gordeev, photographer

    Not having heard Kathie Lee Gifford sing before (and not being a particular fan in the first place) I was quite pleasantly surprised upon hearing “Here’s That Rainy Day”…

    “Downtown Chicago in the Rain II” by Jacob Dhein – oil on panel

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  9. Lucille says:

    Just saw this…
    “Two brothers arrested in connection with attack on Jussie Smollett”

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  10. czarina33 says:

    Shooting incident in Aurora, IL. Police posted on FB the shooter was apprehended. One witness said shooter worked there.

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  11. lovely says:

    Every time I think he can’t get any funnier, President Trump proves me wrong.

    Just look at Romney.

    Liked by 1 person

  12. lovely says:

    Brothers Are Former ‘Empire’ Extras

    Police have now arrested 2 men in the Jussie Smollett investigation — 2 men with ties to “Empire” — and TMZ has learned they were booked for battery.

    The men are brothers from Nigeria named Olabinjo and Abimbola Osundairo, and Chicago cops are now calling them “potential suspects” … as opposed to persons of interest. We know it was their home cops raided Wednesday and seized a long list of potential evidence … including several bottles of bleach.


    Those white supremacist have been abusing a tanning bed something fierce.

    So what are the odds old Olabinjo and Abimbola don’t flip on Jussie?

    Too funny.

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  13. jeans2nd says:

    Hey Stella – a funny for ya. Commenting through Opera’s VPN gets me delayed, if not completely censored, nearly every time, but commenting through Tor gets me through every single time with no delay.
    Go figure lolol

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  14. auscitizenmom says:

    lilbirdee12’s prayer:

    Our Heavenly Father, Your children come to you tonight to ask for healing and peace throughout our country so that we may return to being One Nation Under God. Guide us to be leaders in Your Kingdom, spreading Your Love and Salvation to all. Forgive us our sins and deliver us from evil.

    Lord, we ask for a blanket of protection over all our troops and law enforcement who serve to defend and protect us. Bless our representatives with the strength and wisdom they need to achieve the path You have chosen for us.

    Please place Your Guardian Angels of Protection around Donald Trump and Mike Pence and their families as they seek to lead America back to You.

    Grant us patience, Lord, as the evil ones try to anger us and cause us to fall.
    Spread blessings over Israel and Netanyahu.

    We humbly ask that You please comfort those who are grieving and in pain.
    Thank you Father, for Your Love and the gift of Life.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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  15. auscitizenmom says:

    A prayer for Justice Kavanaugh and Col. Flynn:

    Prayer to St. Michael

    St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle;
    be our defense against the wickedness and snares of the devil.
    May God rebuke him, we humbly pray;
    and do you, O prince of the heavenly host,
    by the power of God,
    thrust into hell Satan and the other evil spirits
    who prowl about the world for the ruin of souls.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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  16. Lucille says:

    Larry Schweikart

    1) @rushlimbaugh discussed this yesterday. There is no amount of money that can “save” journalism, any more than money can get people out of poverty. It’s not a money problem. It’s an attitude problem.

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  17. auscitizenmom says:

    Stella, have you seen this. It is hysterical. This bill the Dems wrote is something obviously they have been working on for a while. He says he will do his job regardless. LOL

    Liked by 1 person

  18. Lucille says:

    Steyn: Radical Democrats may guarantee Trump re-election


  19. lovely says:

    That’s right @Jack has censored our President.


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