General Discussion, Friday, August 3, 2018

Our next western state is Arizona, and there is a lot to see here too! Grand Canyon, Colorado River, Painted Desert, Petrified Forest …


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113 Responses to General Discussion, Friday, August 3, 2018

  1. Morning, Stellars.

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    • Alcoholism sucks.

      1:11 in the morning, and my arms want to grab a beer. But there isn’t one.


      • Stay strong, Wooly. You can do it!

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      • czarina33 says:

        A friend, who is clean & sober again, told me she watches re-runs of “Mom”, which was/is written by people who know “the program”. She said it helps her to see others doing & thinking the same things she does/thinks. Of course, she also goes to meetings.

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      • czarowniczy says:

        I’m the first male head of my family in three generations that isn’t an alcoholic. Yes, trying to dry out sucks but being an alcoholic sucks even more – and dry you don’t do anywhere near as much damage to those around you as you do sotted.

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      • lovely says:

        You know I love ya’ Wooly, so read this with that in mind.

        The physical aspect of alcoholism can be beat, people beat it every day, people also lose the battle every day, is your God miserly with his Grace, choosing to gift some of his children with sobriety while he turns his back on others?

        Of course not.

        So what is moveable in the equation?

        I am Wooly.

        You are Wooly.

        We are Wooly.

        I didn’t even have a faith in God when I got sober, so although God can miraculously heal us of our demons it would be an anomaly rather than the norm and most people, certainly myself included would have no idea what to do with such a gift.

        Sobriety comes not only as a Grace but at a reckoning and a realization that we are good people, worthy of life and love, something that makes some people very uncomfortable. Especially alcoholics.

        The thought process goes something like this “if only” that if only will keep you down, it will keep you disappearing into the bottle every time.

        If only is bullshit.

        It is.

        It is.

        It is today.

        What are we hiding from? Why did we want to disappear in the first place. Why after our first dangerous drunk did our minds not respond in a logical reasonable way and stay away from what is a poison for us but decide to further embrace it?

        It’s time to let go Wooly, stop blaming yourself for things that were never in your control.

        Wanting a pack of cigarettes is not a sin, ignorance as a teenager is not a sin, there is nothing to hold onto, nothing to punish yourself for. You were never in need of forgiveness for not knowing what you could not know.

        As my priest/godfather once told I was more guilty of the sin of pride than any failure to act. I was in some ways putting myself above God in that I thought I should not only be able to change something that I was not given the opportunity to change but also I was certain I should be the arbitrator of another’s freewill. We can only help when we are given the option Wooly. We are not expected to be mind readers by anyone other than ourselves.

        Life is complicated, the mind of a sducidal person is simple, they have ceased to see alternatives and most importantly there is ample evidence from people who have survived suicide attempts that their amygdala has for all essential purposes shut down, they are not leaving us, they simply are disconnected to all emotional connections, their brain shuts down and they cannot touch anything that binds them to their loved ones and they decide this is the time to get out of the shadow. Dying by suicide belongs solely to the person who gives up the gift of life. Whatever the person was going through there are people who have gone through far worse and have gone on to thrive in life.

        God is mercy. God sees. God knows the the thoughts of a suicidal person are the broken thoughts of a wounded soul, a brain that is misfiring and a He does not punish them anymore than he punishes a man who dies from a body altered by cancer. A suicidal brain is an altered brain.

        Your brother loves you and has so many points from which to view that if he could he would wrap his arms around you and tell you how much he loves you again and again until you heard him and learned that life’s moments are a million convergences of this that and other things and how we each respond to that moment belongs solely to us, to the actor, not the audience even those participating in the play.

        The hole in your heart can only be filled by letting go.

        There is help for the physical and the emotional part of getting sober, letting go of the bottle is easier than letting go of the emotional tie that binds you to the bottle. You have to drain yourself of unwarranted guilt and you have have to find a world outside of the one that you currently reside in.

        Life Wooly it is so worth the fight. Life is what is on the flip side of alcoholism.

        There is so much terrible in the world Wooly, Christ absorbed that evil, that pain, for all eternity inside and outside of time, one day on earth it will end. In the hearts and memories of the innocents the atrocities of earth will end. The innocents that are torn apart by evil will one day know nothing but love and laughter and no longer carry the burden and pain perpetuated on them by devils clothed in human skin.

        You have to live in that knowledge.

        Psalm 46:10 10 “Be still, and know that I am God; I will be exalted among the nations, I will be exalted in the earth.”

        That does not mean that we become complacent, we still fight, but to fight we must survive and we must realize and make peace with the simple fact that we cannot stop what god himself has allowed a fallen world to become.

        The best thing we can do for our loved ones who have succumbed to the shadow is to do that which they could not on earth, enjoy the sunshine. Enjoy it doubly, once for yourself and once for them and they will delight in your joy.

        For the love of God Wooly, lay your burden down.

        Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

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        • auscitizenmom says:

          ❤ ❤ ❤

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        • Thank you so much, Lovely, for your words. Many years ago, I tried twice.

          It wasn’t allowed me. Once the closet was too short, and the other time, the Geo Metro ran out of gas before the idea worked.

          I’m still trying, and loving everyone around me.

          Tomorrow, we cater (buffet-style) for 500 people. No problem, that’s what we do, and that’s what we love to do, pack animals that we are.

          I don’t want to die. I’ve not wanted that for a long, long time. I’m just going to if I don’t quit drinking.

          A woman. Imagine that. Working your butt off all day, and there’s going to be a good woman at home, with her arms around you. That you’re going to wake up next to a good woman, and slip out of bed, and make her breakfast.

          I don’t need A.A.

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          • lovely says:

            You do you Wooly, I’ve never recommended anyone go to AA. Sobriety is a singular journey, everyone is different, AA got me on the road but I wasn’t christian when I joined and I didn’t take me long to figure out that it was a mentality that was as addictive as alcohol itself.

            You’re in my prayers Wooly. Don’t die. I may be out of line but can your parents send you to a christian rehab?

            Something has to give, I’m sure they’d rather spend good money on helping you get sober than burying you.

            I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, you are better than the life you are living.


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          • lovely says:

            You know Wooly I have to say one more thing. You can’t alter your body by simply altering your mind. They work in tandem. You need the physical side taken care of just as much as the emotional and spiritual side.

            Any as if. It took me a good while to understand that. Act as if.


  2. Col.(R) Ken says:

    Morning Wooly, Everyone. Water for tea is slowly boiling, coffee water is dripping. See you all in the morning………

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    • MaryfromMarin says:

      The Col is on duty!

      I’ll have some of that hot water for herb tea, thank you–bedtime coming up for me here in CA…

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    • Morning Col. Ken! Thank you!


    • stella says:

      Good morning, Ken!

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    • Mornin’, Ken.

      Why do I have to be so kind?

      Waiting for Urgent Care clinic to open at 11:00. Need quite a few stitches. I had to be chivalrous last night and carry a heavy trash bag for a girl, and there was a piece of glass sticking out of the bag. Now I have the longest, deepest cut I’ve ever had on my calf. Very clean cut, and it didn’t even hurt, or even bleed much, after I staunched it with a paper towel. 3″ long, 1/4″ wide, 1/4″ deep (before I pinched it shut and taped it). When it happened, I felt a tiny scratch. Then I felt wetness down to my sandals. Dropped the bag in the parking lot and looked down, and said “whoa.” (Or something to that effect…)

      Never had stitches before. Not looking forward to the experience. I have to cater for 500 people tomorrow, wealthy political-type people, I’m told. It’d be nice to not be bleeding while doing so.

      The girl cut herself, too, though not as bad, in the same manner. On her first day on the job, probably her first job. Her mom came to pick her up, just after we patched her up. She asked “Mom, does this mean I can’t work tomorrow?” Everyone in the kitchen laughed. 😀

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      • czarina33 says:

        So sorry Wolly! I know people do things fast in the kitchen, but it would clearly help if, when they throw broken glass away, they wrap it in newspaper to cover the edges, like my mother did. Also, not THROW any glass in a way which would cause it to break when it hits the bag.

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        • In the restaurant I just quit working for, we had a 5-gallon bucket with the word “GLASS” printed on the inside of the bucket, where all the broken glass went, by fiat. That was and is a good idea. Glass (and ceramic, etc.) gets broken nearly every day in a restaurant. It needs to never go into a trash bag, and always into the glass bucket, which will be emptied weekly into the dumpster.

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      • Are you up-to-date on your Tetanus vaccination? Might need one. Hope it heals quickly!
        Here’s a X for your boo boo.

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      • czarowniczy says:

        There are easier ways to meet women – but at least you started the damages in this relationship early.

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        • Funny, czar. 😆

          At the hospital today, in the ER, I met a woman I had a crush on years ago, because she was working in Admissions. She was a server in the restaurant for years. I told her “I need to injure myself more often! Maybe I’ll take up skateboarding!” She laughed.

          I did get a tetanus shot, and they patched me up without stitches, just with strips of paper and a wrap. I was there for two hours. They don’t like to stitch up lacerations after 12 hours, because reasons. So they pinched it shut and taped it up. Now I have to wash my hair under the tub faucet for a few days, and take a “whore’s bath” for a few days. Not a problem. Been there.

          Later on today, I get a knock on my window, while I’m talking on the phone with my dad. I tell him, “gotta go”, and go outside. It’s another woman I love, I’m about to be working with, and we end up hanging out for three hours. In my messy apartment. I told her “If I clean my apartment before we hang out, talk, listen to music, sing, play music, etc., then I’m lying.” This is how I live, right now, but won’t always be. And I’m not going to pretend otherwise.

          So tomorrow, after catering for 500 people, I’m going to clean my apartment like it was my restaurant, and we’re going to hang out again. And she understands. She’s lived like this, too.

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      • Hope it heals quickly. Sorry Wooly, but it was very kind of you to assist the young lady.

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    • czarina33 says:

      Greatgreatgrandma is up, so we’ll need two cups to go with the blueberry muffins just out of the oven.

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    • lovely says:

      Good morning Col. ! Spinach borek and English breakfast for me was perfect! thank you 🙂 !


  3. Lucille says:

    Arizona Sunrise…

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  4. nyetneetot says:

    Mornin’ stella! (Smiter of those that ought to be smote) 😎 🍸 (Long Island Iced Tea)
    Mornin’ WeeWeed! (Master Mixologist Extrodinare) 😎 🍸 (Old Fashioned)
    Mornin’ Menagerie! 😎 |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| (Jack Daniels – Single Barrel )
    Mornin’ Ad rem! (Queen Felis catus) 🐱 🍸 (Flaming Lamborghini)
    Mornin’ Sharon! 😎 🍸 🍸 (earthquake)
    Mornin’ ytz4mee! 😎 🍸 (cosmopolitan)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! 🙂 🍸 (white wine and perrier)
    Mornin’ partyzantski! 🙂 |_| (Tom Collins)
    Mornin’ texan59! 🙂 |_| (Black & Tan)
    Mornin’ ZurichMike! 🙂 🍸 (fuzzy navel)
    Mornin’ Col.(R) Ken! (hand salute) 🙂 |_| (Boilermaker)
    Mornin’ czarina33! (aka czarina) 🙂 🍸 (Lynchburg Lemonade)
    Mornin’ czarowniczy! 🙂 |_| (Wild Turkey Rare Breed)
    Mornin’ letjusticeprevail2014! 🙂 |_| (Irish Car Bomb)
    Mornin’ Patriot1783-ctdar! (aka “ctdar”) 🙂 🍸 (grasshopper)
    Mornin’ tessa50! 🙂 🍸 (flaming volcano)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! 🙂 🍸 (sidecar)
    Mornin’ varsityward! 🙂 |_| (Godfather)
    Mornin’ MaryfromMarin! 😀 |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| (Mortlach)
    Mornin’ Wooly Covfefe! (aka “Wooly Phlox” aka “taqiyyologist”) 🙂 |_| (Roy Rogers)
    Mornin’ Howie! (aka “doodahdaze”) 🙂 |_| (Classic Daiquiri)
    Mornin’ TwoLaine! 🙂 |_| (Gin & Tonic)
    Mornin’ Sha! 🙂 🍸 (Lemon Drop)
    Mornin’ BigMamaTEA! 🙂 🍸 (Harvey Wallbanger)
    Mornin’ cetera5! (aka “Cetera”) 🙂 |_| (Blackberry wine)
    Mornin’ The Tundra PA! 🙂 🍸 (Gentleman Jack Whiskey Sling)
    Mornin’ lovely! 🙂 |_| (Backdraft)
    Mornin’ michellc! 🙂 🍸 (Salty dog)
    Mornin’ auscitizenmom! 🙂 🍸 (Kiss on the Lips)
    Mornin’ Margaret-Ann! 🙂 🍸 (White Russian)
    Mornin’ Auntie Lib! 🙂 🍸 (Tom and Jerry)
    Mornin’ holly100! 🙂 🍸 (Jack & Coke)
    Mornin’ Pam! 🙂 (Not even water)
    Mornin’ Ms.Tee! 🙂 🍸 (Mojito)
    Mornin’ koolkosherkitchen! 🙂 🍸 🍸 (Cuba Libre)
    Mornin’ ImpeachEmAll 🙂 |_| (Flaming Dr. Pepper)
    Mornin’ Monroe! 🙂 |_| (Stinger)
    Mornin’ Les! 🙂 |_| (Rusty Nail)
    Mornin’ shiloh1973! 🙂 |_| (Jack Daniels)
    Mornin’ TexasRanger! 🙂 |_| (Whiskey Smash)
    Mornin’ Ziiggii! 🙂 |_| (B52)
    Mornin’ oldiadguy! 🙂 |_| (Rum & Coke)
    Mornin’ smiley! (“stuck in spambucket”) 🙂 🍸 (Spanish coffee)
    Mornin’ derk! (“Stellars”) 🙂 🍸 (Kamikaze)
    Mornin’ Jacqueline Taylor Robson 🙂 🍸 (Shirley Temple)
    Mornin’ facebkwallflower! 🙂 |_| (Night Train Express)
    Mornin’ Ms. Cindy! (aka “Ms Cynlynn” aka “ms cynlynn”) 🙂 🍸 (1970 ducru beaucaillou)
    Mornin’ sandandsea2015! 🙂 🍸 (1961 Château Montrose)
    Mornin’ amwick! 🙂 🍸 (Blue motorcycle)
    Mornin’ hocuspocus13! 🙂 🍸 (1970 Chateau Latour)
    Mornin’ Sloth1963! 🙂 🍸 (1971 Moulin Touchais)
    Mornin’ MTeresa! (Ex-lurker) 🙂 |_| (Albanian Raki Moskat)
    Mornin’ rheavolans! (aka “Rhea Salacia Volans”) 🙂 |_| (Hot Buttered Rum)
    Mornin’ joshua! 🙂 |_| (Mudslide)
    Mornin’ John Denney! 🙂 |_| (RumChata)
    Mornin’ litenmaus! 🙂 |_| (Stolichnaya elit, no ice)
    Mornin’ kinthenorthwest! 🙂 🍸 (A Lonely Island Lost in the Middle of a Foggy Sea)
    Mornin’ TwoLaine! 🙂 |_| (Smoking Bishop)
    Mornin’ patternpuzzler! 🙂 🍸 (Old Lady)
    Mornin’ Senatssekretär FREISTAAT DANZIG! 🙂 |_| (Red Russian)
    Mornin’ G-d&Country! 🙂 🍸 (Blind Russian)
    Mornin’ Gary! 🙂 |_| (Yuengling)
    Mornin’ valeriecurren! 🙂 🍸 (Flaming Sambuca)
    Mornin’ Lucille! 🙂 🍸 (Peach Schnapps)
    Mornin’ Lburg! 🙂 🍸 (Lburg lemonade)
    Mornin’ davidhuntpe! 🙂 |_| (Baileys Irish Cream on the rocks)
    Mornin’ skipper1961! 🙂 |_| (Brompton’s Cocktail – No cherry, no umbrella, no plastic monkey)
    Mornin’ mightyconservative! 🙂 |_| (Benjamin Franklin’s clarified milk punch)
    Mornin’ whiners and complainers! 😛 (No drink for you!)
    Mornin’ to people posting that I missed. 😳
    Mornin’ to all you lurkers! 😕

    Also just in case someday; mornin’ to Elvis Chupacabra, F.D.R. in Hell and sundance! :mrgreen:


    NEW and IMPROVED breakfast with extra bacon for ZurichMike!

    Blueberry Scones

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  5. WeeWeed says:

    Mornin’ kids!

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  6. lovely says:

    I believe the Grand Canyon is one of the most breathtaking places on earth. Thank you Stella. So much beauty in the world. So much glorious beauty.

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  7. Amazing beautiful, pictures today Stella, Lucille, Lovely, everyone!
    Stay strong Wooley, and follow directions to keep that cut clean! Watch out for a red line going up your leg from it -> if so go to doc asap! (happened to me).
    WeeWeed – ah you know me 😉 hahaha!.

    Tomorrow is the last day in our Blaschka series, so I thought this Mararet Tarrant painting titled “Dream Ships” was appropriate. I hope those who did not know one of my favorite artists have come to like her, and the other currently* lesser-known artists, showcased in this series.

    Here is a lovely Blaschka Aurelia aurita “moon” jellyfish:

    Here are two beautiful Stinging Nettles:

    and a pretty pink Charybdea periphyllum:

    *These artists were very well-known and popular in their day when beautifully illustrated children’s books, and paintings of the innocence of children, were popular – a better time in that respect.

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  8. stella says:

    Seen on Facebook:

    Economist Thomas Sowell may have had Kansas in mind when he said, “No one will really understand politics until they understand that politicians are not trying to solve our problems. They are trying to solve their own problems–of which getting elected and re-elected are No. 1 and No. 2. Whatever is No. 3 is far behind.”

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    • Lucille says:

      Maxine loves to talk about the Bible…but has she ever read this which applies to everyone…

      Lust for money brings trouble and nothing but trouble. Going down that path, some lose their footing in the faith completely and live to regret it bitterly ever after.
      – 1 Timothy 6:10 (The Message version)


  9. stella says:


    • John Denney says:

      Without justice, mercy is meaningless.

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    • lovely says:

      I just read an article about Pope Francis, which is what I believe this tweet is referring to, the tweet is misleading as the article doesn’t state that the doctrine of infallibility itself is evolving just that Pope Francis admits that he personally is fallible and has been wrong and confusing in his words.

      I can’t even find any current article on Pope Francis and infallibility.

      Under Francis, there’s a new dogma: Papal fallibility

      The Pope in the last 148 years has spoken infallibly (Ex Cathedra) in accordance with the First Vatican Council (1870) a grand total of two times – exactly twice.

      For once with this Pope it seems to be much ado about nothing.


  10. The Tundra PA says:

    Greetings, Stellar friends (I’d say good morning, but for most of you it isn’t still morning). Good article on Townhall today from Kurt Schlichter:

    Owning the libs is a rejection of their dominance and an assertion of our own. It is a way of not only saying, “We will not submit,” but of demonstrating that refusal to others. There is a reason the motto of the infantry is “Follow me,” and not “Uh, you guys go on ahead.”

    People are not led to triumph by cowards, by wimps, or by submissive weasels who take heaps of garbage and then explain away their refusal to hit back by sobbing, “We’re better than that!”

    In Schlichter’s rapier-like way, it’s all good.

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    • John Denney says:

      Oooo, that was goooood. 🙂

      Those who want government policies of, “You must do this” or, “You may not do that” are enemies of Liberty. Liberty says I don’t have to do this, and I may do that if I want to.

      One of the founding fathers said that rightful Liberty is the free exercise of the will, bounded only by the Rights of others.

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  11. John Denney says:

    A new shape has been discovered: a scutoid.

    It has a pentagon at one end, a hexagon at the other. One pentagon edge splits to form two hexagon edges.

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  12. stella says:

    Seen on Facebook:

    Think about this. Twitter suspended me for a week for calling the NYT journo who slept with her sources, Ali Watkins, a slut. But they have no problem with Sarah Jeong calling for the genocide of white people with a cancel white people hashtag. And you think they are not trying to silence conservatives? Guess again. –– Jennifer Verner

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    • Lucille says:

      Jeong has been using racism to get ahead, to get noticed. Vindictiveness is a resume enhancer for the Left as long as it’s used against the hated-race-du jour…which seems to be the light-to-medium-skinned Caucasians of America called “whites” in recent years.

      The excuse she gives for her multi-year exhibition of foul thought is that she was just getting back at the racists who made comments to her. May we see examples of those comments and can she prove they were from whites?

      And, frankly, I find it seriously doubtful that just out-of-the-blue people started writing racist things to her. Were they responding to her initial racism in the disguise of calling out “white privilege” or some such leftie meme? Makes a person wonder.

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    • Lucille says:

      August 3, 2018 by Daniel Greenfield


  13. Lucille says:

    Let’s continue to pray for political/religious prisoner Pastor Brunson….

    US slaps sanctions on two Turkish leaders over Pastor Brunson’s detention, Erdogan defiant!
    August 2, 2018 by Robert Spencer

    Said Erdogan: “You cannot make Turkey take a step back with sanctions. They need to know the following: we are not tied with an umbilical cord to the U.S.”

    Good. Rapidly re-Islamizing Turkey has not been a reliable ally of the United States for some time, and it is foolish to pretend otherwise. This sham alliance, and others as well, should be ended.

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  14. Lucille says:

    “Last Light On Chimney Rock” by Adam Schallau

    “Sunset Burning Over Phoenix – Camelback Mountain”

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  15. auscitizenmom says:

    lilbirdee12’s prayer:

    Our Heavenly Father, Your children come to you tonight to ask for healing and peace throughout our country so that we may return to being One Nation Under God. Guide us to be leaders in Your Kingdom, spreading Your Love and Salvation to all. Forgive us our sins and deliver us from evil.

    Lord, we ask for a blanket of protection over all our troops and law enforcement who serve to defend and protect us. Bless our representatives with the strength and wisdom they need to achieve the path You have chosen for us.

    Please place Your Guardian Angels of Protection around Donald Trump and Mike Pence and their families as they seek to lead America back to You.

    Grant us patience, Lord, as the evil ones try to anger us and cause us to fall.
    Spread blessings over Israel and Netanyahu.

    We humbly ask that You please comfort those who are grieving and in pain.
    Thank you Father, for Your Love and the gift of Life.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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