General Discussion, Tuesday, November 21, 2017

Posted on November 21, 2017 by Stella

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122 Responses to General Discussion, Tuesday, November 21, 2017

  2. MaryfromMarin says:
    November 21, 2017 at 12:28 am

    Drive-by (boring title, very good article):

    The Psychological Motivation of Those Who Embrace Postmodernism

    The psychological motivation of those who embrace postmodernism

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    • Lucille says:
      November 21, 2017 at 2:38 am

      Yes, most interesting, Mary. Definitely worth keeping for reference. Thanks.

      In the comment section there is a recommendation to view a YT entitled “Identity politics and the Marxist lie of white privilege” by Dr. Jordan B. Peterson which I bookmarked for future viewing—it’s over two hours. Peterson has been vilified in some circles for his stand regarding the absolute necessity of free speech on university campuses.

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    • John Denney says:
      November 21, 2017 at 6:57 pm

      A young in-law told me his friend who has a degree in philosophy told him that you really can’t know the truth.
      I asked, “Is that true?”
      He looked stunned for a moment, then gave a thoughtful little smile and nod and walked away.

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  4. auscitizenmom says:
    November 21, 2017 at 7:09 am

    Goodness, where is everybody?

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  5. Lburg says:
    November 21, 2017 at 7:30 am

    Good Morning Stellars! This morning I laughed at myself. Again. I generally get up early so I can enjoy ‘think’ time and watch the sun rise. Many times I take pictures. This morning was a gorgeous display – so I took my camera outside.

    As you know, I’ve been working on reclaiming wood for the re-do of the porch. This was not a vanity redo – the roof was collapsing and I’m planing, sanding and staining all the old ceiling wood. This is the rest of the story….

    As the Rock Man in Nilsson’s “The Point” would say, “You see what you wanna see, and you hear what you wanna hear.”

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    • joshua says:
      November 21, 2017 at 9:14 am

      big job! I too like the quiet morning time watching the lake come alive and just hearing some birds and breeze in the trees…..and coffee!

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    • Col(R)Ken says:
      November 21, 2017 at 9:46 am

      Yes this is a big job. Somewhere around this place there’s a 12 inch planer…….. good luck!!!!!
      There where some times in my life, I was just glad to see the Sun come up……..Today is one of those days…..

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      • ImpeachEmAll says:
        November 21, 2017 at 1:01 pm

        Every day is one of those days!!!

        Burned through a “shrink” yesterday.

        Really. Is referring me to another shrink.

        Took August, 1968 until yesterday to be
        declared “service connected” on VA ID.

        I’m wearing on their minds. Stella knows
        the feeling. Condolences to Stella; not VA. 😉

        It’s great to be alive, Col Ken. Enjoy each day!!! 😉

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    • lovely says:
      November 21, 2017 at 11:17 am

      Beautiful picture Lburg!

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    • czarowniczy says:
      November 21, 2017 at 11:49 am

      We have a large patio that covers most of the back of the house and it’s covered by a pergola. We just had it painted by one of those ‘forever’ paint companies, though at our ages tempera paint could be considered ‘forever’), as it’s too big of a pain to do ourselves any more.
      It looks good, matches the house color nicely.
      We are happy with it, the cat that owns the patio has no complaints (about the pergola at least) and as it’s no longer white it doesn’t show the accretions of rural crud. Now if we ever get a chance to use it…

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  6. nyetneetot says:
    November 21, 2017 at 7:52 am

    Mornin’ stella! (Smiter of those that ought to be smote) 😎 🍸 (Long Island Iced Tea)
    Mornin’ WeeWeed! (Master Mixologist Extrodinare) 😎 🍸 (Old Fashioned)
    Mornin’ Menagerie! 😎 |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| (Jack Daniels – Single Barrel )
    Mornin’ Ad rem! (Queen Felis catus) 🐱 🍸 (Flaming Lamborghini)
    Mornin’ Sharon! 😎 🍸 🍸 (earthquake)
    Mornin’ ytz4mee! 😎 🍸 (cosmopolitan)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! 🙂 🍸 (white wine and perrier)
    Mornin’ partyzantski! 🙂 |_| (Tom Collins)
    Mornin’ texan59! 🙂 |_| (Black & Tan)
    Mornin’ ZurichMike! 🙂 🍸 (fuzzy navel)
    Mornin’ Col.(R) Ken! (hand salute) 🙂 |_| (Boilermaker)
    Mornin’ czarina33! (aka czarina) 🙂 🍸 (Lynchburg Lemonade)
    Mornin’ czarowniczy! 🙂 |_| (Wild Turkey Rare Breed)
    Mornin’ letjusticeprevail2014! 🙂 |_| (Irish Car Bomb)
    Mornin’ Patriot1783-ctdar! (aka “ctdar”) 🙂 🍸 (grasshopper)
    Mornin’ tessa50! 🙂 🍸 (flaming volcano)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! 🙂 🍸 (sidecar)
    Mornin’ varsityward! 🙂 |_| (Godfather)
    Mornin’ MaryfromMarin! 😀 |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| (Mortlach)
    Mornin’ Wooly Covfefe! (aka “Wooly Phlox” aka “taqiyyologist”) 🙂 |_| (Roy Rogers)
    Mornin’ Howie! (aka “doodahdaze”) 🙂 |_| (Classic Daiquiri)
    Mornin’ TwoLaine! 🙂 |_| (Gin & Tonic)
    Mornin’ Sha! 🙂 🍸 (Lemon Drop)
    Mornin’ BigMamaTEA! 🙂 🍸 (Harvey Wallbanger)
    Mornin’ cetera5! (aka “Cetera”) 🙂 |_| (Blackberry wine)
    Mornin’ The Tundra PA! 🙂 🍸 (Gentleman Jack Whiskey Sling)
    Mornin’ lovely! 🙂 |_| (Backdraft)
    Mornin’ michellc! 🙂 🍸 (Salty dog)
    Mornin’ auscitizenmom! 🙂 🍸 (Kiss on the Lips)
    Mornin’ Margaret-Ann! 🙂 🍸 (White Russian)
    Mornin’ Auntie Lib! 🙂 🍸 (Tom and Jerry)
    Mornin’ holly100! 🙂 🍸 (Jack & Coke)
    Mornin’ Pam! 🙂 (Not even water)
    Mornin’ Ms.Tee! 🙂 🍸 (Mojito)
    Mornin’ koolkosherkitchen! 🙂 🍸 🍸 (Cuba Libre)
    Mornin’ ImpeachEmAll 🙂 |_| (Flaming Dr. Pepper)
    Mornin’ Monroe! 🙂 |_| (Stinger)
    Mornin’ Les! 🙂 |_| (Rusty Nail)
    Mornin’ shiloh1973! 🙂 |_| (Jack Daniels)
    Mornin’ TexasRanger! 🙂 |_| (Whiskey Smash)
    Mornin’ Ziiggii! 🙂 |_| (B52)
    Mornin’ oldiadguy! 🙂 |_| (Rum & Coke)
    Mornin’ smiley! (“stuck in spambucket”) 🙂 🍸 (Spanish coffee)
    Mornin’ derk! (“Stellars”) 🙂 🍸 (Kamikaze)
    Mornin’ Jacqueline Taylor Robson 🙂 🍸 (Shirley Temple)
    Mornin’ facebkwallflower! 🙂 |_| (Night Train Express)
    Mornin’ Ms. Cindy! (aka “Ms Cynlynn” aka “ms cynlynn”) 🙂 🍸 (1970 ducru beaucaillou)
    Mornin’ sandandsea2015! 🙂 🍸 (1961 Château Montrose)
    Mornin’ amwick! 🙂 🍸 (Blue motorcycle)
    Mornin’ hocuspocus13! 🙂 🍸 (1970 Chateau Latour)
    Mornin’ Sloth1963! 🙂 🍸 (1971 Moulin Touchais)
    Mornin’ MTeresa! (Ex-lurker) 🙂 |_| (Albanian Raki Moskat)
    Mornin’ Rhea Salacia Volans! 🙂 |_| (Hot Buttered Rum)
    Mornin’ joshua! 🙂 |_| (Mudslide)
    Mornin’ John Denney! 🙂 |_| (RumChata)
    Mornin’ litenmaus! 🙂 |_| (Stolichnaya elit, no ice)
    Mornin’ kinthenorthwest! 🙂 🍸 (A Lonely Island Lost in the Middle of a Foggy Sea)
    Mornin’ TwoLaine! 🙂 |_| (Smoking Bishop)
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    Mornin’ Senatssekretär FREISTAAT DANZIG! 🙂 |_| (Red Russian)
    Mornin’ G-d&Country! 🙂 🍸 (Blind Russian)
    Mornin’ Gary! 🙂 |_| (Yuengling)
    Mornin’ valeriecurren! 🙂 🍸 (Flaming Sambuca)
    Mornin’ Lucille! 🙂 🍸 (Peach Schnapps)
    Mornin’ Lburg! 🙂 🍸 (Lburg lemonade)
    Mornin’ davidhuntpe! 🙂 |_| (Baileys Irish Cream on the rocks)
    Mornin’ skipper1961! 🙂 |_| (Brompton’s Cocktail – No cherry, no umbrella, no plastic monkey)
    Mornin’ mightyconservative! 🙂 |_| (Benjamin Franklin’s clarified milk punch)
    Mornin’ whiners and complainers! 😛 (No drink for you!)
    Mornin’ to people posting that I missed. 😳
    Mornin’ to all you lurkers! 😕

    Also just in case someday; mornin’ to Elvis Chupacabra, F.D.R. in Hell and sundance! :mrgreen:

    Breakfast!

    NEW and IMPROVED breakfast with extra bacon for ZurichMike!

    Blueberry Scones

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  7. WeeWeed says:
    November 21, 2017 at 8:02 am

    Mornin’ y’all!

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  8. Wooly Covfefe says:
    November 21, 2017 at 8:25 am

    Lloyd Marcus nails it at AT this morning.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/11/when_will_we_finally_hold_wicked_hillary_accountable.html

    Hillary is acting exactly like the little girl in the movie The Bad Seed. In the movie, seemingly perfect and adorable eight-year-old Rhoda assumed she would win the perfect penmanship medal. Her classmate Claude won the medal. Outraged, Rhoda cornered Claude and demanded that he give her his medal. When Claude refused, Rhoda murdered Claude and stole it.

    Hillary is a narcissistic sociopath, and a murderous psychopath, just like this little girl.

    I think “Rhoda” is actually a prototype of the entire American Left. Fascist to the core.

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      • Wooly Covfefe says:
        November 21, 2017 at 9:05 am

        Good morning, Sand. I’d be more communicative, but WP has me jumping through hoops just to post. And way more hoops to hit the “like” button. If I want to hit the “like” button, I have to enter all my info, email and password and all that, and then get a text on my phone, and then enter a 8-digit code, and then reload the page. Easy-peasy. Not.

        I guess the good thing about all this, is that you have to be fairly intelligent to use the internet nowadays. Weeds out the dumbf***s, I guess. They can stay on FaceBook.

        Always good to see you, and all you Stellars.

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    • lovely says:
      November 21, 2017 at 11:23 am

      Good morning Wooly, I think the comparison is perfect.

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    • czarowniczy says:
      November 21, 2017 at 1:04 pm

      No surprises here, that’s the Hillary we’ve come to know and love. I do believe that the Party’s in the throes of trying to decide what to do with her, she’s obviously a disruptive, divisive and now useless member but…what to do with her?
      I’m betting that as long as sge and Bill have been in the Party’s leadership they have enough dirt on so many of the Party’s leaders that they ain’t gonna go head-to-head with her. She also still has a sizeable following and she and her POS hubby still have lotsa $$$ to throw around – she could cause a lotta damage.
      I’m wondering if someone in the Party will decide the only way outta this is to invite her to a party in the park?

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  9. joshua says:
    November 21, 2017 at 8:38 am

    Busted….Roy Moore accusation goes in the dumpster as former waitress working at the restaurant debunk the entire story of the signed annual waitress girl

    GADSDEN, Ala. (WIAT) — After nearly two weeks of sexual assault allegations from several women, Republican U.S. Senate Candidate Roy Moore attempted to debunk claims from one of his accusers Beverly Young-Nelson.

    Moore’s campaign sent the following in a press release:
    GADSDEN, Ala. – On Monday evening, the Moore Campaign unveiled statements from key witnesses that completely bust the story of Beverly Nelson and Gloria Allred and further reveal an unconscionable bias on the part of state and national press to hide the truth from Alabama voters who will undoubtedly see through the “fake news” and elect Judge Moore for the man that they have always known him to be.

    According to a former waitress, Olde Hickory House required employees to be 16 years old. Nelson claims she was 15 when she started.
    According to two former employees, the dumpsters were on the side of the building. Nelson claimed that they were in the back.
    Olde Hickory House sat right off of the four-lane highway and had a wrap-around porch with lights all around it. Nelson claimed that the surroundings were “dark and isolated.”
    Rhonda Ledbetter, who worked at Olde Hickory House for almost 3 years, states that the earliest it closed was at 11 p.m. but she believes it was open until midnight. She is certain it did not close at 10:00 because Goodyear was next door, and employees came to eat when their shift ended at 10 p.m. Nelson claims her story occurred after the restaurant closed at 10 p.m.
    It is unlikely that there was an entrance from the back of the parking lot, which Nelson claimed existed. Multiple sources have claimed that everyone parked on the sides of the building because there wasn’t much room behind the restaurant, according to Rhonda not enough room to turn around. Renee Schivera stated that a neighborhood backed up to the parking lot and it was adjacent to the backyards of people’s houses, so she did not see how there would have been a back entrance as it would have gone through someone’s yard.
    Nelson claimed that Judge Roy Moore came in almost every night and sat at the counter, but former employees state that customers at the counter were served by the bartender or short order cook – not served by the waitresses and had no reason to interact with the wait staff. Additionally, two former waitresses and two former patrons state they never saw Judge Moore come into the restaurant.
    These witnesses have shared their testimony with multiple news outlets. The outlets have failed to report.

    Rhonda Ledbetter, a retired public school teacher who is currently the senior choir director at a Baptist church and teaches children at a local, church-sponsored day care center, was a waitress at Olde Hickory House for almost three years from 1977-1979. She was a college student at Jacksonville State University at the time and worked varying shifts at different times of day, multiple days a week during the time of her employment. She said in a statement: “When I heard Beverly Nelson’s story, there were several details that were different from what I remember. I was nervous at coming forward because of all the attention this story has gotten, but as a moral and ethical person I had to speak up about what I know to be true. I was a waitress at Olde Hickory for almost three years from 1977-1979, and I never saw Roy Moore come in to the restaurant. Not one time. And I would have noticed because most of our customers weren’t wearing suits, especially not at night. Many customers worked at Goodyear next door and would stop in on their way to and from work, and I don’t remember anyone from the courthouse coming in at all. That just wasn’t our crowd.

    “A few things stuck out to me. First, Nelson said she was 15 years old when she started working there but you had to be 16. I don’t remember her from my time there, and I don’t remember any 15 year olds working there at all.

    “Second, Nelson said the restaurant closed at 10 p.m. but I know the earliest it closed was 11, though I believe it was midnight. I’m certain of that because Goodyear employees came in to eat after their shift ended at 10:00 p.m., so there’s no way we would have closed at that time.

    “Third, the area wasn’t dark and isolated as she described. Rather, the building was right off the busy four-lane highway and people and cars were always around. The restaurant had a wrap-around porch, like the ones at Cracker Barrel restaurants, and there were lights all around the sides of the building. So it wasn’t dark and anyone in the parking lot was visible from the road.

    “Fourth, the dumpsters were to the side of the building, not around back and there sure wasn’t room to park in between the building and the dumpsters. People from the kitchen would take trash out of the side door and throw it right into the dumpsters. We were always told to park on the side of the building, because there just wasn’t much room behind it. I don’t remember there being an exit from the back of the parking lot, there would barely have been enough room to turn a car around.

    “I came forward because from what I’ve seen, the media is only interested in reporting one side of this story. In fact, Dixon Hayes from WRBC in Birmingham asked for former employees to contact him but never responded when I told him I never saw Roy Moore come into Olde Hickory House during the three years I worked for. Two other news outlets in the state asked to interview me and I agreed, but neither one has aired my interview and I have to wonder why they don’t think the people of Alabama deserve to hear anything that counteracts the accusations against Judge Moore. It’s not for me to say whether or not something happened, I can only tell the truth about factual details that I know for sure. I think all Alabamians deserve to have all of the facts so they can decide for themselves what the truth is. Despite what the national media and people in DC might say, Alabama voters are intelligent and have common sense. We don’t need anyone to tell us how to vote or to explain to us what really happened. We will make that decision and I just wanted to do my part in sharing the truth on some of these important facts. I, like all Alabama voters, want any and all information that can shed light on the truth.”

    Johnny Belyeu, Sr. is a former police officer with over two decades of experience with the Etowah County Sheriff’s Department and the Gadsden Police Department. He said in a statement, “I was an officer with the Etowah County Sheriff’s Department in the 1970s which means I worked in the courthouse and knew who Roy Moore was since he was the Deputy District Attorney at the time. I was a regular customer at Olde Hickory House, and I never once saw Judge Moore come in there. If he had I would have immediately recognized him. I also never met Beverly Nelson during any of the many times I frequented the restaurant, and I can’t say that she even worked there.”

    Renee Schivera of Huntsville, Alabama stated, “I was a waitress at the Olde Hickory House during the summer of 1977, before my senior year of high school. When I heard Beverly Nelson’s story the first thing that stuck out to me was that I don’t remember Roy Moore ever coming into the restaurant. I also don’t remember her working there. The other thing that struck me as odd is that from my best recollection, the dumpsters were to the side of the building. I just know they were visible from the road, and not back behind the building. But the main thing is that if someone came in almost every night we knew who there were, and I never saw Roy Moore there. As a Christian woman, I wouldn’t lie for anyone and I am only sharing what I know because it’s the truth.”

    “The days of unbiased reporting are over,” Moore Campaign strategist, Brett Doster said. “The liberal media will dodge any source and refuse to air any interview that doesn’t square with their effort to land a liberal Democrat in the senate seat. The Moore Campaign is committed to presenting factual truth to the people of Alabama and looks forward to victory on December 12.”

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    • Wooly Covfefe says:
      November 21, 2017 at 10:40 am

      It’s such a fragile thing, too.

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    • lovely says:
      November 21, 2017 at 11:27 am

      This whole thing is so stupidly and blatantly partisan. Now the woman who was 14 at the time claims that Moore “seduced” her. That is a huge change from her original story where she said that he drove her to the woods and molested her. She said she was expecting flowers and candlelit dinners.

      I can’t imagine how afraid of Moore the RNC and DNC must be to be pulling this blatant garbage.

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      • Wooly Covfefe says:
        November 21, 2017 at 11:35 am

        He was looking for a young wife, in a time and place where any female over 16 was already married, or was a bar slut. What the actual heck is wrong with people?

        He was in his late thirties when he married his wife who was 24 years old.

        OMG what a pedo.

        They’ve been married 37 years. They have kids and grandkids.

        I’m glad he got him a young wife. As if that’s a bad thing.

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      • joshua says:
        November 21, 2017 at 12:24 pm

        seduction….sure
        the wanderings of a 14 year old mind

        who is KIDDING who

        typical example of femme fatale age 14

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  10. joshua says:
    November 21, 2017 at 9:08 am

    Michigan Rep. John Conyers, a Democrat and the longest-serving member of the House of Representatives, settled a wrongful dismissal complaint in 2015 with a former employee who alleged she was fired because she would not “succumb to [his] sexual advances.”

    Documents from the complaint obtained by BuzzFeed News include four signed affidavits, three of which are notarized, from former staff members who allege that Conyers, the ranking Democrat on the powerful House Judiciary Committee, repeatedly made sexual advances to female staff that included requests for sexual favors, contacting and transporting other women with whom they believed Conyers was having affairs, caressing their hands sexually, and rubbing their legs and backs in public. Four people involved with the case verified the documents are authentic.

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  13. Lucille says:
    November 21, 2017 at 1:44 pm

    Imagine having to work with all those interfering mics. Too bad there isn’t a single outlet from which they all must get their feed, either a specific White House cameraman and crew or the MSM on a rotating basis.

    PHOTO OF THE DAY

    President Donald J. Trump holds a cabinet meeting | November 20, 2017 (Official White House Photo by D. Myles Cullen)

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    • Wooly Covfefe says:
      November 21, 2017 at 9:04 pm

      Why are they all leftists?

      And why now, coinciding with Trump’s nascent Presidency?

      Heh. After, during the election, they all tried to accuse him, and failed, of sexual misconduct, because of a video of him engaging in locker-room talk, worksite-humor, and restaurant-kitchen humor about grabbing.

      Look at all his accusers now. Is it coincidence?

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      • Wooly Covfefe says:
        November 21, 2017 at 9:16 pm

        One thing I’ve noticed, perusing news comment sections, that is particularly enraging is that many people still beileve that Trump “admitted to grabbing (cats)”. He did no such thing. He was making young men laugh, in the way that we do, with vulgar humor, in worksite settings, to bring levity to your coworkers.

        Russia offered him hookers. He and his security detail declined, laughing, saying “Heh. We don’t do that.”

        They should have said, “Have you seen his wife? Ever?”

        Trump is a good man. Makes people laugh with vulgar humor now and then. Isn’t that what these Hollywood people do every minute of the day? They are the ones who are doing the grabbing. And Trump was right when he said it, even though he never did it.

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  16. auscitizenmom says:
    November 21, 2017 at 9:00 pm

    lilbirdee12’s prayer:

    Our Heavenly Father, Your children come to you tonight to ask for healing and peace throughout our country so that we may return to being One Nation Under God. Guide us to be leaders in Your Kingdom, spreading Your Love and Salvation to all. Forgive us our sins and deliver us from evil.

    Lord, we ask for a blanket of protection over all our troops and law enforcement who serve to defend and protect us. Bless our representatives with the strength and wisdom they need to achieve the path You have chosen for us.

    Please place Your Guardian Angels of Protection around Donald Trump and Mike Pence and their families as they seek to lead America back to You.

    Grant us patience, Lord, as the evil ones try to anger us and cause us to fall.
    Spread blessings over Israel and Netanyahu.

    We humbly ask that You please comfort those who are grieving and in pain.
    Thank you Father, for Your Love and the gift of Life.

    And, Lord, we pray for all the people who have been affected by the earthquakes and hurricanes.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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