General Discussion, Monday, January 9, 2017

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  1. texan59 says:

    Here we go. Coffee up y’all. πŸ˜€

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  2. texan59 says:

    Awwww. Federal workers worried about their jobs. As many should be. πŸ˜† πŸ˜†

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/federal-workers-worry-about-their-jobs-under-trump/ar-BBy2Xlu?li=BBnbfcQ

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    • joshua says:

      What IS a Federal Worker anyway? Does ANYONE employed by the Federal Govt actually DO anything worthwhile enough to be considered WORK?

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    • czarowniczy says:

      Well, when I retired from Federal civil setvice I was receiving 26 working days of paid personal leave, 15 working days of military leave, 11 paid holidays and 13 working days of sick leave that accrued indefinately, each year. That’s 65 workdays a year I could be paid and not actually be there. I don’t think they’re as worried about their jobs as they are their benefits.

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      • michellc says:

        Not federal service I guess, but I’ve spent the past two years listening to teachers whine and complain around here about their slave wages. Have watched them not be doing their job while they were busy protesting for higher wages. I have many teachers in my family and they were all there with bells on to protest while their students they cared about had no teacher in the classroom. I got removed from their Christmas card list when I pointed out that in the private world leaving their job to protest would at the least have been done on their own time because they would not have been paid for the day and at the worst would have lost their job. Not to mention all the sick days they have, paid holidays, plus the paid summer paid vacation and if you accounted for all those days off then they really weren’t working for the same few peanuts they claim to work for.
        I might feel sorry for people if they didn’t go to college for a teaching degree, knowing or at least they should know what the pay is and then whining when they don’t make more than was expected.

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        • nyetneetot says:

          I have wondered lately if the reason history is not taught is that someone would figure out that all the tactics used by the left – including protests – came from Rome. The response to the tactics were also included in the writings, but they are not exactly socially acceptable today. There would be a lot of job opening though.

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          • michellc says:

            I think true history is not taught because then they couldn’t twist minds.
            Just not that long ago American history, think about what it would do to their agenda if it was taught Africans sold blacks into slavery and the Civil War wasn’t really about slavery. If it was taught that Indians weren’t innocent bystanders who just wanted to hunt and live on their land but instead some tribes were savages who stole, raped and murdered.
            That’s just to name a few that bug me. I saw my great nieces history book last week and was looking through it and it showed pictures of white men(white men not even dressed as they would have been dressed) in the jungles of Africa pulling women and children out of huts and throwing them on boats. Then pictures of all these black men in union uniforms fighting the evil white men in confederate uniforms and then showing the union uniformed black men leading black women in rags to safety.
            The Indians were in their cornfield minding their own business when the white men came in with guns and lead them away.

            Now I’m not saying there weren’t wrongs on the white side, but it didn’t happen the way they’re teaching children it happened.

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            • if you don’t teach correct history, you can convince people that the nation they live in holds a monopoly of evil and owes the world for it. In addition, if you don’t teach them to read, you don’t ever have to worry about them reading up on the matters for themselves one day and finding out that they were taught wrong.

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              • Col.(R) Ken says:

                Let not forget college professors. Within the State school system, in class professors teach 16 hours p/week. Hold office hours, 2-3 per week, and other faculty functions. In all about 30 hours p/week. Now retirement is paid health insurance, monthly check $4/7 k p/ month……that’s 20-25 years of service, for 30 plus years of service its top 3years averaged out. So they walk out the door at 90% of their take home pay. This is in PA. Pension reform under former RINO Gov. Ridge…….
                I should have written/defended my thesis…..

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        • lovely says:

          Most teachers are more than fairly compensated for their time in todays market. Most have phenomenal retirement and health care packages. If they are too stupid to know their salary before going to school, getting a degree and accepting a job I think that they are over compensated given their thinking process is faulty 😜. I have teachers in my family also, they have no idea what normal people do who work a minimum of 9 hours a day and get two weeks vacation pay a year.

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          • michellc says:

            Oklahoma is one of the lowest paid states for teachers, which I’ve heard over and over; Arkansas pays more, Missouri pays more, Kansas pays more, Texas pays more. I always reply, “move to one of those bordering states then!” It’s always, “don’t you care about the kids, who is going to teach them?”

            I loved though how they had the state question for more money, so they had billboards up everywhere along with ads everywhere that an Oklahoma teacher is only $60 or whatever it was from being eligible for food stamps. I looked it up and that figure was based on a family of four and all of the teachers in my family have husbands who work so they were not even close to getting foodstamps.

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        • czarowniczy says:

          I like it teachers get time off with pay, and frequently paid transportation, to go to the state capital and protest school-related legislation they don’t like.

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          • michellc says:

            All while the school is having to scramble to get in enough substitutes or closing the school down which is a day that has to be made up.

            I watched them on the news and saw all my family members who are teachers there and was ashamed. The only good thing is all of them are in-laws, so at least they don’t have the same blood as mine running through their veins.

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            • czarowniczy says:

              Now that La has a Rat governor the NEA and its corrosive crew will modt likely hsvevfree reign of the state. Mississippi has moved up out of the ‘worst state for education’ slot but La’s managed to still feed on the bottom. Yeah Rat socilal planning!

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              • michellc says:

                A few of the local schools around here still do have some good teachers who don’t whine and complain and care about teaching and the kids.
                One of those schools did not have one single teacher who went to protest. That school happens to be the top school in the county when it comes to test scores as well as graduation rates. They were in the top 5 in the state, but I haven’t checked that in a few years.
                If I had a kid and had to send them to public school I would choose that school. They don’t blindly do as they’re told and pray before every sporting event as well as they don’t blindly teach some of the trash that is in the text books.

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        • John Denney says:

          Taxpayers spend about $10,000 per kid per school year, so a class of 20 kids represents a $200,000 pool of taxpayer money for the school year.

          Would you teach a one room schoolhouse of 20 kids for a year for $200,000, providing books, heat, A/C, lights, janitorial services, and so on from that money, keeping the remainder as your salary?

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          • michellc says:

            Please, we’re not talking about 20 kids and even if we were, a room to hold 20 kids wouldn’t cost that much to heat and cool or keep the lights on and no bigger than it would need to be, the teacher could add janitorial services to his/her job duties.
            Nobody told them to go into teaching and it’s not a secret what the starting salary is for a teacher in our state. If you don’t like the salary then choose a different major or plan on moving to a state that will pay you what you think you deserve.

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        • joshua says:

          in the Dallas ISD, substitute teachers get a bonus for working on Monday and Friday, since those are the days when most teacher vacancies occur….figure out that “long weekend” deal….teacher gets paid, kids get a “substitute” and no real teaching that day.

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          • michellc says:

            I do not remember teachers protesting and always whining about what they were paid when I was young. Teachers back then taught because they loved kids and they loved teaching.

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      • czarowniczy says:

        That’s 13 weeks, 3-1/4 months a work year I was paid and did not have to be at my job. Any unused vacation leave up to, if I remember correctly, 56 workdays and all unused sick leave can be applied towards retirement. The total retirement reimbursement a civil service employee receives cannot exceed 80% of the employees average pay for his/her high three years (awwwwww, poor puppy) but how many y’all get retirement (never mind work) benefits like that?
        They’re working on cutting military retirement pay/benefits but working at increasing Fed civil service bennies. I won’t even get into the insulting civil service vice military disability retirements. Active combat vets with multiple combat tours have to jump through hoops and wait years for military retirement for PTSD. I watched Fed civil service office workers get ‘stress related’ medical retirements faster than you can get a meal at Mickey Ds.

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      • Col.(R) Ken says:

        CZAR!!!! Received my Burgess seed and plant catalog…pictures are nice!!!!

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        • czarowniczy says:

          Yeah, I think they mail ’em out by using degrees of latitude as a winnow. More souther you are the more earlier you gets ’em. Sure makes the cold weather seem better, no?

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  3. MaryfromMarin says:

    One of my favorite quotes–this time, set in snow…

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  4. ImpeachEmAll says:

    0.5 Β°F or -17.5 Β°C

    Time for another log…

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  5. ImpeachEmAll says:

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  6. nyetneetot says:

    Mornin’ stella! (Smiter of those that ought to be smote) 😎 🍸 (Long Island Iced Tea)
    Mornin’ WeeWeed! (Master Mixologist Extrodinare) 😎 🍸 (Old Fashioned)
    Mornin’ Menagerie! 😎 |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| (Jack Daniels – Single Barrel )
    Mornin’ Ad rem! (Queen Felis catus) 🐱 🍸 (Flaming Lamborghini)
    Mornin’ Sharon! 😎 🍸 (earthquake)
    Mornin’ ytz4mee! 😎 🍸 (cosmopolitan)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (white wine and perrier)
    Mornin’ partyzantski! πŸ™‚ |_| (Tom Collins)
    Mornin’ texan59! πŸ™‚ |_| (Black & Tan)
    Mornin’ ZurichMike! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (fuzzy navel)
    Mornin’ Col.(R) Ken! (hand salute) πŸ™‚ |_| (Boilermaker)
    Mornin’ Czarina! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Lynchburg Lemonade)
    Mornin’ czarowniczy! πŸ™‚ |_| (Wild Turkey Rare Breed)
    Mornin’ letjusticeprevail2014! πŸ™‚ |_| (Irish Car Bomb)
    Mornin’ Patriot1783-ctdar! (aka “ctdar”) πŸ™‚ 🍸 (grasshopper)
    Mornin’ tessa50! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (flaming volcano)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (sidecar)
    Mornin’ varsityward! πŸ™‚ |_| (Godfather)
    Mornin’ MaryfromMarin! πŸ˜€ |_| (Mortlach)
    Mornin’ Wooly Phlox! (aka “taqiyyologist”) πŸ™‚ |_| (Roy Rogers)
    Mornin’ Howie! πŸ™‚ |_| (Classic Daiquiri)
    Mornin’ TwoLaine! πŸ™‚ |_| (Gin & Tonic)
    Mornin’ Sha! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Lemon Drop)
    Mornin’ BigMamaTEA! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Harvey Wallbanger)
    Mornin’ cetera5! (aka “Cetera”) πŸ™‚ |_| (Blackberry wine)
    Mornin’ The Tundra PA! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Baileys Irish Cream on the rocks)
    Mornin’ lovely! πŸ™‚ |_| (Backdraft)
    Mornin’ michellc! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Salty dog)
    Mornin’ auscitizenmom! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Kiss on the Lips)
    Mornin’ Margaret-Ann! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (White Russian)
    Mornin’ Auntie Lib! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Tom and Jerry)
    Mornin’ holly100! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Jack & Coke)
    Mornin’ Pam! πŸ™‚ (Not even water)
    Mornin’ Ms.Tee! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Mojito)
    Mornin’ koolkosherkitchen! πŸ™‚ 🍸 🍸 (Cuba Libre)
    Mornin’ ImpeachEmAll πŸ™‚ |_| (Flaming Dr. Pepper)
    Mornin’ Monroe! πŸ™‚ |_| (Stinger)
    Mornin’ Les! πŸ™‚ |_| (Rusty Nail)
    Mornin’ shiloh1973! πŸ™‚ |_| (Jack Daniels)
    Mornin’ TexasRanger! πŸ™‚ |_| (Whiskey Smash)
    Mornin’ Ziiggii! πŸ™‚ |_| (B52)
    Mornin’ oldiadguy! πŸ™‚ |_| (Rum & Coke)
    Mornin’ smiley! (“stuck in spambucket”) πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Spanish coffee)
    Mornin’ derk! (β€œStellars”) πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Kamikaze)
    Mornin’ Jacqueline Taylor Robson πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Shirley Temple)
    Mornin’ facebkwallflower! πŸ™‚ |_| (Night Train Express)
    Mornin’ Ms. Cindy! (aka “Ms Cynlynn” aka “ms cynlynn”) πŸ™‚ 🍸 (1970 ducru beaucaillou)
    Mornin’ sandandsea2015! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (1961 ChΓ’teau Montrose)
    Mornin’ amwick! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Blue motorcycle)
    Mornin’ hocuspocus13! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (1970 Chateau Latour)
    Mornin’ Sloth1963! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (1971 Moulin Touchais)
    Mornin’ MTeresa! (Ex-lurker) πŸ™‚ |_| (Albanian Raki Moskat)
    Mornin’ Rhea Salacia Volans! πŸ™‚ |_| (Hot Buttered Rum)
    Mornin’ joshua! πŸ™‚ |_| (Mudslide)
    Mornin’ John Denney πŸ™‚ |_| (RumChata)
    Mornin’ whiners and complainers! πŸ˜› (No drink for you!)
    Mornin’ to people posting that I missed. 😳
    Mornin’ to all you lurkers! πŸ˜•

    Also just in case someday; mornin’ to Elvis Chupacabra, F.D.R. in Hell and sundance! :mrgreen:

    Breakfast!

    NEW and IMPROVED breakfast with extra bacon for ZurichMike!

    Pastries for coffee!

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  7. lovely says:

    Julian Assange is holding a Press Conference to address the Russian accusations made by Team Obama. You can submit questions.

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  8. derk says:

    Morning Stella, fellow folk,
    Gorgeous morning pic, love the glow of sunrise through the trees. 40ish today, scaterred rain today, supposed to be heavy tomorrow and So. Cal floats off of the mainland. We shall see!

    Have a great day y’all, stay warm!

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  9. amwick says:

    Am I the only person that likes Mondays? Sometimes I think so. Even today, with the bitter cold, Weekends are just unpredictable.

    BTW this little guy kinda looks like my sweet old dog, back when she was a teenager..

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  10. WeeWeed says:

    Mornin’ y’all!

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  11. lovely says:

    Kellyanne kicks Meryl Streep’s phony concern for the disabled right in the teeth.

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    • czarowniczy says:

      Well now, Trump’s a white male, conservative capitalist racist while those four innocent and deprived youths were, at worst, just responding to 400 years of socioeconomic and cultural repression. Geez, guys, didn’t you hear the POtuS explain that?

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    • derk says:

      Hear a lot of negative regarding KAC, but I think she speaks very well and is able to provide a calming response to most of the attacks thrown their way. Although she did throw in a bit of Loveliness herself today.
      Reince, don’t trust a bit.

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  12. czarowniczy says:

    Hey! Y’all wanna go to ebay and buy your Obama Farewell Speech tickets they gots ’em there. Going ask seems to be around $100 though there’s one ‘buy it now’ for $10,000. Only one with a bid is one for $250. Let’s see what they’ll be going for this time tomorrow.

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    • lovely says:

      They gave the tickets away for free and now the low life Chi town thugs are exploiting the other low life Chi town thugs by trying to make some drug money off of them. Love it.

      One has a bid of $250.00 ? Obama os probably bidding on it πŸ™„

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  13. czarowniczy says:

    Well when ya look at his works in the genre so far and his pronouncements on the police versus black crime he just might hire them as greeters in his new South Side complex. Too bad their trial won’t be over before the 20th so that he can pardon them as victims of the courts’ unfair sentencing practices. Sheesh, those white thugs who kidnap, torture, make racist/hate blurbs while streaming it all live get all the breaks.

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  14. czarowniczy says:

    News is reporting a manhunt in Orlando for a black male who shot and killed a black female police officer. Another officer reported to be killed in an associated traffic accident.
    OK, BLM folks, how ya gonna spin this one?

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  15. Wooly Phlox says:

    http://lidblog.com/palestinians-holy-war-jerusalem/

    FTA, my comments in brackets, as I fisk this abject idiot:

    β€œThe new American administration intends to transfer its embassy to Jerusalem. [Good.] In a simple, calm, and rational manner [Nothing is simple, calm or rational for Islamists], in clear words that need no explanation and which are unambiguous: Such a step, for every Muslim, is a declaration of war on all Muslims [It’s about time.] It’s a declaration of war on all Muslims [Who have declared war on all non-Muslims for about 1400 years now, and have acted accordingly]. We are no one’s enemies [Except the ones we are commanded for all time to slay and terrorize and enslave], and we do not want to be [We’re just commanded to be by our Prophet]. We are not enemies of the US [The Great Satan, that is,] and we do not want to be. However, when something harms our faith [Which is so weak that moving an embassy shakes it.] and our existence, we cannot stand by and do nothing [Have Muslims ever stood by and done nothing?]. We will not agree to this under any circumstances [You don’t know Trump, yet. You will.] This will not pass in silence… The entire Muslim world will not accept it [Like you ever accepted anything other than complete submission and capitulation to your sick cult.], and the entire Christian world will not accept it [Other than most of us, who rejoice in it]. Occupied [By our sick cult] Jerusalem is our eternal capital [I thought it was Mecca?], the capital of our existence and the capital of our state [The capital of your state is in Egypt and Jordan.]. In politics there can be compromises here and there… In politics there can be negotiation. However, in matters of religion, faith, values [Like beheading your daughters and wives], ethics [Like bombing baby carriages and raping whole schools], and history, there can be no compromises [Islam has made that abundantly clear, as they slaughter anyone who opposes it’s demonism]. Therefore, it isn’t possible to compromise on or negotiate over Jerusalem. This of course does not mean that we will prevent anyone from considering Jerusalem their direction of prayer. Our [It’s not yours, jagoff.] Jerusalem will remain open to all believers [in Islam] as it has been. Open to all of the monotheists.[And not the pesky polytheists who call themselves Christians].”

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    • Wooly Phlox says:

      Shorter:

      Their whole existance is a holy war. And now they’re threatening Trump with declaring a holy war, if we move our embassy to Jerusalem which they’ve long occupied as part of their holy war.

      I hope Trump pulls a Thomas Jefferson, and commissions a whole new fleet of U.S.S. Constitution-class warships, and ends this.

      Never start a fight. Always end one, decisively.

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    • Wooly Phlox says:

      If I had a big red button that I could push that would somehow cause all Muslims to keel over, I would push it, with no hesitation. Then I’d push it again. Then I’d toss it on the ground and jump up and down on it. Just to be sure.

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  16. joshua says:

    Charles Manson is on his death bed, according to a newly published report.

    Last week, Manson, 82, was taken out of Corcoran State Prison in California’s Central Valley and rushed to a hospital in Bakersfield about 60 miles away for emergency surgery to stop his intestines from bleeding.

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  17. auscitizenmom says:

    May he rest in pieces with much pain.

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  18. Wooly Phlox says:

    Two quotes regarding an 82 year old white guy beaten and robbed by three ferals:

    Via CBS4, NYC, A.K.A., the idiots in the MSM whose parents I hope will one day endure this:

    “He was treated at a nearby hospital for bumps and bruises.”

    “He is expected to be alright.”

    He is expected by the MSM to be alright.

    No, he’s going to be a prisoner in his own home, from now on. Screw you, pretty white lady on TV. And screw whoever wrote your lines for you to read like an idiot, organ-grinding monkey. I hope it happens to your parents, you slattern.

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  19. czarowniczy says:

    NOLA DA’s office is complaining as city’s cutting his budget. Most likely a good part of the reason is that the City Council persons are receiving heat from ‘certain segents of the community’ over the numbers of juvenile thugs, with multiple arrests for what would be felonies were they adults, being charged as adults.
    We’re not talking about stealing hubcaps or tping houses, we’re talking assaults, armed robberies, burglaries, home invasions, and we’re talking them having multiple charges over their you d careers. Obe council eoman’s even on TV blathering on about rehabilitating these po’ mizunnuhstood chirruns. Awwww, poor puppies, they’s jes robning, murdering and generally terrorizing because they was jes a few SAT points short of the full MIT scholarship. They just needs to be unnahstood, and have a few violent felonies worked off with community service until they gets them scores up there.

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  20. derk says:

    National Championship time!! Go… oh I don’t care. Left Coast is definitely not the best coast in regards to college football, yet.

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    • Col.(R) Ken says:

      Seems the Tigers just can’t get It started, that touchdown before the half was a fluke. Bamma is like a grinder, run run run, then pass, pass, run. Tigers defense on the field to much in 1st half, this will show in 4th quarter. Bamma has a balanced attack v. Tigers hit and miss…….
      Fire is warm, May not make it to 4th quarter……….

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