General Discussion, Monday, April 13, 2020

Springtime near the village of Aínsa-Sobrarbe, Spain

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70 Responses to General Discussion, Monday, April 13, 2020

  1. Lucille says:


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  2. czarowniczy says:

    A few weeks back when the NOLA city government was still waffling about shutting down the French Quarter, nevermind regular businesses, I’d posted that I’d called the 3 local TV stations and asked their newsrooms if they’d heard anything about how the city was going to handle the homeless. There’s a huge homeless community scattered around the city, a lot of it under the Interstate right by the city’s major hospital center. I’d mentioned they were clustered together for personal security, many had mental and/or drug issues and they were the hardcore, long term homeless that would be a problem to deal with, and they move around with tons of personal…belongings.. We frequently dealt with them in the SO and I was curious as to how the city was going to deal with this infection reservoir.

    “Great questions!”, they all said, “We’ll ask those at an upcoming presser!”. Well if they did the questions and answer never made it to the TV news but the local paper just put out an article on it. The paper’s rather conservative so it isn’t couching the issue in the usual PC apologist terms.

    ‘The city rounded up some 190 homeless and put them into the Hilton Garden Inn right downtown. There some city, state and volunteer staff are riding herd on them. From staffing levels it appears the planners thought they were shepherding some kids from a prep school, they’re not only short handed but terribly shorton supplies. There was one nurse assigned, 12 to 15 security guards to man the hotel 24/7 and they are heavily occupied checking the rooms the homeless are in multiple times during the day to ensure the rooms aren’t being damaged, something the state will have to pay for were it to occur.

    The staff is admitting to about 2 overdoses a day by the guests, mostly oxy, and there’s virtually no staff to deal with the metal problems many vacationers are demonstrating. The holidayers are gathering in large groups, not maintaining social distancing and few are wearing masks…but then a lot of the staff isn’t too. Basic sanitary practices such as wiping down doorknobs and environmental surfaces isn’t being done with any regularity and there’s little checking of the wayfarers to see if they are running a temperature. There was no word on how the staff’s dealing with the resident’s drug pushers but with 2 ODs a day being admitted to I’d say ‘not very well’. These tourers have to be either going out to buy ( a no-no) or the drug pushers are bringing it on (another no-no). A 3rd possibility is some of the staff is pinch hitting for the sellers but we’re seeing another no-no there too.

    So far some 23 guests have come down with the coronavirus (“Hey kiddies, can you say ‘due diligence tort suit’?) and they’re being shuttled off to a convention site some 15 miles away on the edge of a big swamp. If 23 of this bunch of intrepid off-the-gridders has come down with it can be pretty well sure that they’re gonna have a bunch more cases. Then again the city’s been looking for a way to reduce the number of homeless…

    The city has more than one of these upscale flophouses, we’re only hearing about this one though. Once again a Democratic city launches planless and clueless into an attempt to do well and shoots itself in the footses, probably allowing a combination of ignorance and political correctness to blind them to the real and raw truth. I have full faith, though, that the city will solve this by its usual method: barring access to the hotels to any supporter who hasn’t been vetted and found pure of progressive heart.

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    • lovely says:

      Just wow. I wonder what the bill for damages to the hotel will be. I’m quite certain when a “security guard” opens a door and sees a psychotic person perched on a dresser ready to leap onto the tv, or wrapped in the curtains and flittering about the room, the security guard is going to close the door and walk away. What person in their right mind is going to confront a bunch of mentally ill, drug abusing displaced and therefore even more disoriented individuals who will quickly become a mob if there is an altercation.

      Craziness by the officials.

      And as you said if 23 out of 190 have the Chinese virus they all will have it, maybe some will be asymptomatic but they are all going to get it.

      I don’t think I ever told the story of the boarding house (maybe 50 units) that boarded people with mental and or drug issues, it was on my route for a charity I worked with bringing them groceries, rent assistance (by the week) , general hygiene products…. anyhow they had bedbugs. None of them and I mean none of them did anything that was requested or required to stop the spread.

      Our organization would only meet them outside or in the linoleum lobby, we stopped supplying furniture because it would get bugs and they would request the same thing a week later. I called the Health Department on the owners. I don’t know how things ended up because I quit the organization, but the bedbug problem was ongoing for at least 2 years.

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  3. Menagerie says:

    Bad storms hit our town, tornado hit the opposite side of town. I’m grateful to be safe, praying for those impacted. And watching a live press conference. Dear God, why no IQ test for reporters? Rephrasing the same question and asking it over and over won’t get you a different answer. How these emergency officials, who have a lot of work to get out out and do, don’t lose patience and cuss these reporters out is totally beyond me.

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  4. auscitizenmom says:

    Mornin’ everyone. Horrible storms across the middle of the country! Really scary stuff. I hope everyone is ok. I have a feeling it is going to be a really hot day today since it is already 80* here. It was hot yesterday but started out lower.

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    • lovely says:

      Morning Aus! The storms seem to have missed us, but it’s 32° out there so I am not likely to find a walking buddy today.

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    • Lucille says:

      Good morning, aus! We’re at 44 heading to 51 today. A slight breeze and low humidity with no rain or storms headed our way.

      Not quite weather for beach sitting…

      …but definitely can’t complain.

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  5. stella says:

    Morning everybody! My news this morning is that my refrigerator/freezer stopped cooling, and I don’t know yet if the repairman can come today. Waiting for a phone call. I moved some things into a mini frig, but my freezer is packed and pretty well thawed at this point.

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  6. lovely says:

    Stella I thought you might like this photo of Chicago, no credit was given but I think it is beautiful!

    Sweet home Chicago 🙂 !

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  7. czarowniczy says:

    After days – again – of the weaterguessers telling us that we were in for flooding, windstorms of Biblical proportions, hail (non-Biblical) and tornadoes….(you may have guessed it already) we got some breezes and 1/2-inch of rain. So far their guesstimates have been right on target – bad, sand in about a month they’ll be working the coronavirus right into hurricane season.

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  8. czarowniczy says:

    Just wrote my Rep and one Senator. This is the time of the year the FDA’s committee to meet and determine what strains of flu virus will be put into the vaccine for the 2020-2021 flu season. I would like to know if the committee did meet and decide on the strains and if the ongoing COVID-19 issue will cause any problems in the production and distribution of flu vaccine this fall.

    Even though less than 50% of the US population gets the vaccine it still has the potential to create a problem on the COVID-19 scale if the vaccine’s late getting into the field and the flu gets a foothold.

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  9. rheavolans says:

    Seen over at Aesop’s place. I’m debating sharing this in FB, but I don’t know if I’ll have time to explain to my friends on the Right -again – that even though they think the risk is okay for themselves, they could go query everyone who works at the local hospital before they start screaming that the shutdown was bad an the governor should reopen everything, since in demanding an end to this, they forget that they’re volunteering a lot of other people to take risks too. I’ve highlighted the part I think is most important:

    “Shutdowns and mass quarantines have a fairly extensive history in the USA. Yellow fever caused them to be applied multiple times, for example – just yesterday Drudge had a link to a story about the 1873 one in Memphis, where the steamboats were not permitted to dock for multiple weeks. And of course Typhoid Mary, who did nothing more than cook meals like she was paid to do, for which they locked her up for the rest of her natural life. And the courts were fine with it.

    The second most gobsmacking thing about this situation is how various models and projections of potential problems were put forward, measures were proposed to improve the situation from what the projections were saying, the actual situation is indeed improved, and the response is to scream that the projections were obviously wrong and the ameliorative measures need to be stopped at once. I’d say Darwin in action except there’s no guarantee the virus would hit the right people.

    The MOST gobsmacking thing about this situation is how the liberty-minded/constitutionalist right – in fact all aspects of the dissident right – are suddenly racing each other to align themselves publicly and visibly with the virus and against the general public health. It’s the most self-destructive political move I have ever seen. It makes carrying Hitler flags look downright quaint and neighborly. Short of a freaking miracle where the virus just vaporizes itself, it will make that entire political perspective utterly radioactive to the general public for a decade or more.

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  10. czarowniczy says:

    And when I open my email this AM there’s a feed from the WaPo:

    The Post not only sent this out on their ‘fishing for subscribers’ feed but didn’t put the block on it you see when, as a non-subscriber, you push the ‘I wanna see more’ button. And though it’s about the coronavirus it’s in under their political heading.

    The Post appears to be working with the Democrats in setting their anti-Trump agenda for the election, neither Biden nor Cuomo will have to do much in the way of attacking Trump other than selectively pick Trump hate screes from the morning edition of the Post. They selectively pick sources to back their anti-Trump bias and blame him for getting his information from the unproven internet while fostering the rise in hydroxychloroquine talk on the net. Like no one else ever mentioned it?

    I particularly like how they used an app that measures the mention of hydroxychloroquine on the internet to ‘justify’ their claims of people talking about hydroxychloroquine as a cure on the net. They also find convenient ways to use skimpy evidence to ‘refute’ more reliable claims of hydroxychloroquine’s effectiveness. In all had someone like Fox news (whom you’ll note the Post found a way to work in and slam) put out this article the Posty would have been on them like Bezos on a stray penny on the ground.

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  11. Lucille says:


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  12. jeans2nd says:

    Stella, this may have been asked of you before, apologies if i missed it.

    Re: your Guv, The Woman From Michigan – is she really, truly, from Michigan?
    Going through memories this afternoon, was reminded of living out in the boonies, and the years spent perusing catalogues, ordering, and planting all the special plants from…Michigan Bulb Company, est 1948 iirc.

    Ordered my first heirloom tomatoes from Michigan Bulb. Whoever bought the house bought an extraordinary garden of exotic plants and vegetables, all from Michigan Bulb Company.
    Does The Woman From Michigan really think no one from Michigan is going to order seeds from Michigan Bulb?
    Or does The Woman From Michigan own stock in Michigan Bulb?

    The mind does travel in erratic ways, when left on its own, from time to time.

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