General Discussion, Saturday, April 20, 2019

The Big Bruce docks in a Key West marina on May 11, the busiest day of the Mariel boatlift when 4,588 refugees arrived aboard 58 vessels. National Guardsmen assist.

On April 20, 1980, the Castro regime announces that all Cubans wishing to emigrate to the U.S. are free to board boats at the port of Mariel west of Havana, launching the Mariel Boatlift. The first of 125,000 Cuban refugees from Mariel reached Florida the next day.

The boatlift was precipitated by housing and job shortages caused by the ailing Cuban economy, leading to simmering internal tensions on the island. On April 1, Hector Sanyustiz and four others drove a bus through a fence at the Peruvian embassy and were granted political asylum. Cuban guards on the street opened fire. One guard was killed in the crossfire.

The Cuban government demanded the five be returned for trial in the dead guard’s death. But when the Peruvian government refused, Castro withdrew his guards from the embassy on Good Friday, April 4. By Easter Sunday, April 6, some 10,000 Cubans crowded into the lushly landscaped gardens at the embassy requesting asylum. Other embassies, including those of Spain and Costa Rica, agreed to take a small number of people. But suddenly, two weeks later, Castro proclaimed that the port of Mariel would be opened to anyone wishing to leave, as long as they had someone to pick them up. Cuban exiles in the United States rushed to hire boats in Miami and Key West and rescue their relatives.

In all, 125,000 Cubans fled to U.S. shores in about 1,700 boats, creating large waves of people that overwhelmed the U.S. Coast guard. Cuban guards had packed boat after boat, without considering safety, making some of the overcrowded boats barely seaworthy. Twenty-seven migrants died, including 14 on an overloaded boat that capsized on May 17.

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102 Responses to General Discussion, Saturday, April 20, 2019

  1. Lucille says:

    Have a peaceful Saturday…

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  2. Lucille says:


    I’m taking a few days off to rest the orbs. See you Sunday night. Have a beautiful and blessed Easter!

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  3. nyetneetot says:

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    NEW and IMPROVED breakfast with extra bacon for ZurichMike!

    Doughnuts for coffee!

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  4. WeeWeed says:

    Mornin’ y’all!

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  5. lovely says:

    10 beautiful things

    1) Candy from back in the day πŸ™‚ .

    2) Bumpercars.

    3) Rowing a boat across a lake for the first time after the winter ice has melted.

    4) Double dutch jump rope.

    5) The return of birds to the northern states.

    6) Hours spent avoiding the dreaded slide on square 87.

    7) Drive-In Theaters.

    8) Gangways and alleys.

    9) Shorts and sleeveless t-shirt weather.

    10) Friendship.

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  6. If y’all haven’t seen this, you need to! This kid does a fantastic AOC!

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  7. lovely says:

    Now this is an Easter bonnet with character πŸ™‚ !

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  8. czarowniczy says:

    Not to minimize the Mariel Boatlift and the honest refugees who came, lost to history is the darker side.
    Castro decided to make lemonada and empty out some prisons, not political prisons, and – to use a non-PC term – some nuthouses. Lower end estimates are that only about 2700 were professional criminals but there were more in that lift who became criminals so the numbers game was an attempt to play down the criminal aspects of the boatlift. Prisons throughout the US were still holding Merielitos well into the 90s and Merielito gangs involved in gun running, narcotics, contract murder, prostitution, the whole gamut of crime, still exist in major I-95 corridor cities and even in LA.

    I remember the call going out to Army Reserve centers all over the US to cough up cots, tentage, blankets and other items necessary to create and maintain the refugee camps that were to hold some 125,000 refugees who hit the US shores almost en masse, the bulk arrived in just a couple of days time and had to be fed, medically screened, housed, documented…all of the things you need to do with a refugee fresh off the boat.

    The city of Miami was overwhelmed, its population increased about 10% overnight and few of the new refugees spoke English. The governor did an emergency call-up of the National Guard, the
    President called up selected units from the Army Reserve, active Army and Navy to rush there and give support, especially units and individuals that had a Spanish language and wartime refugee processing capability. Were it not for the call-up the situation in Miami would have devolved into the huge disaster that Castro hoped it would when he planned the boatlift.

    Thousands upon thousands of the refugees were efficiently (or as efficiently as the sudden receipt of >125,000 mostly non-English speaking would allow) transported to Army facility (especially empty barracks heavy Reserve bases) for housing while they were processed and their futures worked out. Thousands went to hospitals for treatment and screening though Guard/Reserve/Active Duty military medical personnel were heavily involved there too. Had the Active and Reserve personnel not been involved the boatlift would have been a huge disaster.

    You’ll probably hear more from Czarina on this, she’d just moved from her home, Miami, to Utah where Harmonia (or Eris, take you pick) had planned we’d meet and she was going back and forth so she has her own take on this.

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    • stella says:

      It was an ‘interesting’ time. To paraphrase what somebody else said earlier on FB, I am reminded of the time when, according to the story, there were only four people on earth, and one of them turned out to be a murderer. Not much has changed, humans being what they are.

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      • czarowniczy says:

        We mostly had different views of the boatlift depending upon if/how it effected us. L know to this day a friend of mine who was a detective on the Miami PD has a personal and far different view of the boatlift as he spent years wallowing in its darker wake.

        As for me I can remember my unit being stripped of stuff, it effected our operations for two years after that, it took that long for the stuff to be replaced. We’re almost 40 years down the road now, a standard historical narrative has been forged and it is what it is.

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    • rheavolans says:

      I was thinking about saying something similar. :/

      Did we ask for Cuba to send all of their yearning-to-breathe-free, as well as yearning to commit crimes, and drain the US social system of more money by being crazy or otherwise able to work?

      We should have shipped them right back. We’re not the world’s garbage dump, all liberal fantasies to the contrary.

      Yes, I’m sure some of those who came legitimately had reasons to want to leave Cuba, just like everyone who’s everyone who’s ever lived under socialism. But again, America is not the world’s dump.

      I’m getting a little sore about all the people who seem to think we are.

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      • czarowniczy says:

        That was Castro’s middle finger to the US and his chance to get rid of what he considered his rabble element. That huge wave came over in just a few months, thousands of boats, the swarm was far too big for us to stop and it was just before the ’80 election so politics here played a big part. Castro was no fool.


  9. stella says:

    By FB friend, Lynn Chu:

    I’m halfway through the Mueller report. It is a total bore. Ignore all media and Democrat flap. All B.S. All this report does is show definitively how utterly NOTHING it all was, from the start. It therefore by its terms proves the truly criminal malice of the sting operation perpetrated on Trump, to misuse government power and resources against a sitting President. Utterly unAmerican. Clearly part of the long term plot to subvert and bring down America, and capitalism, by its enemies. So many of whom we so kindly tolerate, as a natural infestation within our diverse culture, that we simply manage in hopes of eventual full eradication by gentle persuasion.

    Lynn is an attorney and literary agent.

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    • lovely says:

      All I can say is my hat is off to those like Lynn who are willing to slog through the muck.

      Here is my analysis after reading several excerpts.

      “Orange man bad.”

      I can’t get through Scott Adam’s periscopes anymore but he has an insider perspective on President Trump allegedly asking people to do questionable things. It happens all the time, innocently, with rich people. You tell your attorney to do “A” your attorney says, “You moron doing “A” is illegal”, you say “Oh, I didn’t know, Ok, let’s move on.”

      Nothing, absolutely nothing unlawful about any of the utterances in the Mueller report.

      Also the little bit I read there are a whole lot of qualifiers used for a legal document, “claimed” “alleged” .

      I spit in the general direction of Mueller and his team of ghouls.

      All the Beasts Horses and all The Beasts men have failed.

      There will be hell to pay for those who kicked the tiger in the ass. Good.

      β€œIf you want to kick the tiger in his ass you’d better have a plan for dealing with his teeth.”__Tom Clancy

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  10. stella says:

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  12. stella says:

    Lab-Grown Kidneys Proven To Work: Now Moving To Being Viable Option For CKD & Dialysis Patients

    Researchers recently reported that they have successfully grown kidneys in a lab, connected them to “excretion systems,” and noted that they “function and grow properly” in both rats and pigs. This is a massive step forward for the over 600,000 patients in the United States conducting Dialysis including the 120,000+ people waiting on the Kidney Transplant List.


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  13. stella says:

    Did you know that Linda Ronstadt has Parkinson’s disease, and she says she can no longer sing. She, Dolly P and Emmylou Harris have had a final album come out in 2016.

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  14. Menagerie says:

    Challah bread is made, ham is in the oven, lamb gets cooked tomorrow after Mass. Also making a new recipe, caprese bread. And that’s all I have to cook, I’ve had an easy weekend. If I could just get another member of the family to come along on the bread.

    Oh well, one granddaughter loves to help me make the bread and she’s coming along well. Maybe in a few years she can run with it.

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  15. lilbirdee12’s prayer:

    Our Heavenly Father, Your children come to you tonight to ask for healing and peace throughout our country so that we may return to being One Nation Under God. Guide us to be leaders in Your Kingdom, spreading Your Love and Salvation to all. Forgive us our sins and deliver us from evil.

    Lord, we ask for a blanket of protection over all our troops and law enforcement who serve to defend and protect us. Bless our representatives with the strength and wisdom they need to achieve the path You have chosen for us.

    Please place Your Guardian Angels of Protection around Donald Trump and Mike Pence and their families as they seek to lead America back to You.

    Grant us patience, Lord, as the evil ones try to anger us and cause us to fall.
    Spread blessings over Israel and Netanyahu.

    We humbly ask that You please comfort those who are grieving and in pain.
    Thank you Father, for Your Love and the gift of Life.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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  16. A prayer for Justice Kavanaugh and Col. Flynn:

    Prayer to St. Michael

    St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle;
    be our defense against the wickedness and snares of the devil.
    May God rebuke him, we humbly pray;
    and do you, O prince of the heavenly host,
    by the power of God,
    thrust into hell Satan and the other evil spirits
    who prowl about the world for the ruin of souls.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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  17. lovely says:

    Best president and Master Troll.

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