General Discussion, Friday, June 22, 2018

Posted on June 22, 2018 by Stella

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  1. Gil says:
    June 22, 2018 at 12:34 am

    What a great day. I took kiddo to the beach all day. Up at o dark 30 to get there and long traffic laden drive home(everything you do in CA is marred by severe traffic). His very first all day there was full of tide pools, sand castles, sifting seashells, and poking every anemone until it closed. We even found a cute sea slug about as big as an adult hand. A lobster tail he thought was strange, crabs galore. But he was crying tired when we got home. Passed out, arms at his sides and mouth agape, like husbands on turkey day.
    He had a lot of fun. I did too but oh my goodness you have to take a lot of stuff with kids. I need a cart!
    I hope everyone has a good Friday!

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  3. czarowniczy says:
    June 22, 2018 at 1:25 am

    A golf course or, as my ex’s grandfather used to refer to them: “A *&^%$#@ waste of good cow pasture!”.

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  4. czarowniczy says:
    June 22, 2018 at 1:36 am

    Shopping at the big Asian goodies store I found ‘seto fumi furikake’, rice seasoning. I decided to look it up on Amazon and see if I could get it delivered instead of my having to go to NIOLA to buy it and yep, it was there.
    Interesting thing was reading the purchaser comments. There is a whol lotta 1 or 2 star ratings and most center around the California warning on the label.It says: ‘WARNING: Consuming this product can expose you to chemicals, including lead and lead compounds…’. Not that it does contain or has been tested an d found to contain, just ‘can expose you to..’.
    Well duh, it contains bonito and seaweed, both of which can pick up lead in the environment they grow in. At some point due to the ambient lead in the environment from decades of use of leaded fuel even organic meat and veggies could have that label added. Then again…more for ME!

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    • lovely says:
      June 22, 2018 at 7:58 am

      A family member returned sunglasses because she hadn’t noticed a tag on them that read “May cause cancer”. The glasses were bought from a store in California a state where I believe it is mandatory that everything must carry the label “May cause cancer”. (Other than hypodermic needles).

      Anyhow.

      I decided to do some research because it was so ridiculous. The best I could figure out is that the thinking (🙄) process went something like this, a chemical used in the process of making the frames (but not in the end product of the frames) was studied by CA geniuses, the way it was studied was that rats were placed in a vat of the chemical. The rats died drowned, the rats were tossed in a garbage can, another rat in a cage 90 yards from the rats who drowned in the vat of chemicals got cancer, ergo the cancer warning on the sun glasses << That may not be a verbatim retelling of the process but it is very close.

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    • Wooly Covfefe says:
      June 22, 2018 at 11:53 am

      I like to go to Wal-Mart and put big “Gluten Free” stickers on car tires, tools, batteries, and bags of gravel. I’m actually doing them a favor, because those items will sell more than the non-GF items, even by people who don’t even need them. I put the “Dolphin Safe” stickers on pork products.

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      • Wooly Covfefe says:
        June 22, 2018 at 11:56 am

        Yes, there’s something wrong with Wooly. It’s not extreme cynicism, I swear. It’s extreme altruism. I’m really just trying to help Wal-Mart get more sales from the IQ-challenged.

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      • Wooly Covfefe says:
        June 22, 2018 at 12:04 pm

        We literally have servers come into our kitchen and interrupt our workflow so they can ask, as demanded by a customer, “Is our bacon gluten-free?” At least once a week, about a product that is obviously without gluten. Like romaine lettuce, for example.

        How to cause an eye-tic in everyone in the kitchen.

        Our line cook, he snapped one day and yelled, regarding the bacon, “IT COMES FROM PIGS!! NOT WHEAT!!” I almost fell on the floor laughing.

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      • czarowniczy says:
        June 22, 2018 at 12:04 pm

        WARNING! Life has been found by the state of California to be a direct contributer to cancer! California recommends you die immediately to reduce the risk!

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        • Wooly Covfefe says:
          June 22, 2018 at 4:34 pm

          “…The State also recommends you dig your own grave first, and in accordance with California Law as to depth, so as to limit the carbon usage of vehicles that would otherwise be required to transport your body to the gravesite, after embalming and wake and funeral. If you are Military, just think about the cost to the State, or your loved ones, per round for the salute.”

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          • Valerie Curren says:
            June 23, 2018 at 2:24 am

            You’re reminding me about something my autistic son said (in all seriousness & earnestness) after attending the funeral of our cousin. He decided he wanted to dig his own grave in a particular place & couldn’t get the concept that if he’d actually died & needed a grave He wouldn’t be the one to dig it. I think he thought if he sensed he was about to die that he’d hurry to his chosen burial place, dig, conveniently expire, & someone else, eventually, would fill in the hole.

            Per my daughter this is roughly what he said, “When I die, I’m going to dig my own grave & bury myself in it!” She’s commenting now, “good luck with that!”

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    • Gil says:
      June 22, 2018 at 1:30 pm

      We have warnings and labels on everything. So many things telling us whats bad or not to do something that theyve gotten most people to ignore them. Kiddo has me read all the signs to him and he hates all of it too. Theres that arsenic problem with rice too but we all still eat it.

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      • czarowniczy says:
        June 22, 2018 at 1:37 pm

        CAUTION! It has been derermind that California government can cause pains in your posterior.

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      • Lucille says:
        June 22, 2018 at 2:41 pm

        After 70 years something still gets my goat…LOL! Dumb signs and labeling fit right in with this little remembrance.

        When I was six years old and visiting my paternal grandparents’ home where all the relatives were gathered for Thanksgiving, we females were out in the big high-ceilinged kitchen preparing dinner. Staying out of the way, I sat at a table where some of the condiments were placed.

        Picking up a spice container, I began reading the ingredients aloud, sounding out the ones I’d not seen before. Having been taught to read by my mother prior to my entering kindergarten, I was doing a bang up job of it. Then came “nt wt.” I actually already knew it meant “net weight” but purposefully pronounced it “nit wit” because I wanted to make a joke.

        The aunts and other females did laugh but corrected my pronunciation. I was absolutely indignant that they didn’t understand I KNEW what it meant and how to pronounce it and was trying to make a funny. When I explained that, they just laughed some more and said I was trying to cover up my mistake!

        Ohwah! Even then I hated being patronized! LOL! Strange the things we carry around with us forever.

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  5. Lucille says:
    June 22, 2018 at 3:14 am

    Rare Color Photographs of Women at Work During WW2
    https://www.boredpanda.com/women-at-work-ww2-restored-color/

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  6. Valerie Curren says:
    June 22, 2018 at 6:06 am

    OK, so I’m totally dating myself here, but I’ve got to say that I really miss hearing some “edgier” Christian music getting airtime on the radio. When I was in college in the ’80s there was a decent Christian music station, KXOJ, in Tulsa that played some interesting stuff including Mastedon (John & Dino Elefante–JE was with Kansas for a while)…anyway a couple years back tooling around on You Tube I found some new Mastedon stuff including this one (hope it posts) called “Lying”

    A few years back there was a relatively new station in Northern Michigan that used to play more edgier Christian stuff–called Smile FM. Well they’ve toned down their offerings a bit & the other Christian music stations accessible when we’re up in Gaylord are almost like Christian Muzak. It’s edifying to a point but it’s like so much of the more recent worship music that just is sorely lacking something (scriptural support & heartfelt & even gut wrenching/checking lyrics & musicianship)…

    I know it’s a controversial topic but is anyone else finding it hard to relate to much of what passes for Christian music these days? My husband says that music is one of the most divisive issues in churches where the tug of war over traditional vs contemporary rages. Back in the ’80s a Christian “rock” group of siblings “The Second Chapter of Acts” (Matthew Ward had an amazing voice!) released an album called “Hymns” that set traditional hymns to a more contemporary arrangement of these recognizable classics & I loved it–but it was not to my mother’s taste at all who’d grown up almost entirely on hymns…

    Anyway, letting Mastedon play through late at night I discovered a couple of musical gems, if one is a fan of ’80s Christian Rock. There was actually a jam session put on You Tube that included John Elefante, John Schlitt (the lead singer of Petra), and Jay Sekulow (of the American Center of Law & Justice & a serious conservative warrior)–what a treat! Here’s a taste, hopefully…Blessings

    The embed should be of the guys & friends doing Kansas’ “Dust in the Wind”–a classic!

    Maybe this is just a little out there but I do believe there is a place for spiritual warfare in the “culture wars”…& gutsy, God-honoring music can certainly be part of the armory in prep for a good fight!

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    • sandandsea2015 says:
      June 22, 2018 at 6:51 am

      Looking forward to listening to this. Thank you, Valerie.

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    • Wooly Covfefe says:
      June 22, 2018 at 12:22 pm

      Wow. I think both Dino and Schlitt were both with Petra at one point, too. I never knew that Kansas, A.D., and Petra had so many intersecting members. Makes sense.

      I remember when Kansas became A.D., and you can tell they were about to become Christian when you listen to Dust in the Wind. That song is ABSOLUTELY TRUE…. if there is no God.

      “The Wall” is also a great song, from Leftoverture, as well. It speaks of becoming enlightened, breaching a great wall (that between secular/atheist and Christian), and looking back at your friends and wishing they would come over the wall, too.

      Great info.

      I was right: in 1986, with Back to the Street, Petra signed on BOTH Dino and John Elefante, AND John Schltt for the production and tour.

      That is so amazing. 1987’s This Means War also had all three.

      I never knew that…

      I’m surprised I never heard of Mastodon. Have a wonderful day, Valerie!

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      • Wooly Covfefe says:
        June 22, 2018 at 12:47 pm

        You date yourself, sure. Good.

        I had several Petra albums on vinyl, Valerie. And yes, we listened to 2nd Chapter of Acts, too. And Rez Band, formed out of JPUSA. All the rock music we weren’t supposed to be listening to because, despite that it was as Christian as a hymnal, it was ROCK, and talented, and played the instruments with skill.

        Psalm 150 has something to say about this. So do a whole lot of other verses in the Bible.

        I think I’ve even posted Stryper and Bloodgood videos here. My GM might not have approved of the music, but she sure would have approved of the lyrics. Whiteheart was a favorite of mine. Mad at the World was a flash in the pan, but they were also good, and innovative.

        I just made a Pandora playlist with three seeds: Mastodon, John Schlitt, and Kansas.

        Loving it.

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        • Valerie Curren says:
          June 22, 2018 at 8:25 pm

          Love hearing All of this. I agree about Psalm 150. God will always be praised with the instruments & styles of every age of man–& if the people ever cease the rock(er)s will cry out!

          Though it’s not my cup of tea, one of my husband’s Christian music associates (he’s the worship director at a local church, in several bands, & helps coordinate various Christian music events in Metro Detroit) plays in a “Christian death metal” band–his words. I didn’t know there was a market for that cross-section of humanity so color me surprised.

          Although it’s fairly difficult to get “gigs” in churches for the kind of Christian Rock Bands my husband has played in there are, or at least were, some venues where that type of music was an integral part of outreach. They’ve played at Celebrate Recovery, kind of like a Christian version of AA, or at some Christian “coffee house” style ministries, including biker ministries. In fact they just had their gig at the Victory Biker Church again & that church’s house band seriously knows how to rock!

          I love that the Lord can reach each of our hearts & minds speaking the language that resonates with our individual souls–musically & otherwise!

          https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/35415473_2292830477610723_7458378539646058496_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=e1017ab0c5b7649de15ae375bd21e597&oe=5BB31DBA

          Don’t know if the pic will post, but it’s of my husband’s band, The Lively Pelts, from their recent gig at VBC…Blessings!

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          • Wooly Covfefe says:
            June 22, 2018 at 11:49 pm

            Christian rock does not project anger, like Christian Death Metal (I always assumed that would be a thing eventually, didn’t know it was, because hey — I listened to Bloodgood and Stryper), it projects love and praise and solutions. I also do understand that there is a place for anger. Just not in the public sphere.

            Ask your husband (and God bless him), to listen to AP2, Suspension of Disbelief. It’s a band that was formerly called Argyle Park, in the vein of Linkin Park and such, back in that day, then they (like Kansas) became AP2. That Suspension album is on YouTube (or Amazon), and is utterly ahead of its time. And there’s some really angry music by recent red-pilled converts on that album.

            Who wouldn’t be angry, just having had their eyes opened to what was done to them, and all of humanity, in the name of Anti Christ? I sure would.

            But I always snap back to the default position of praise. Always.

            I won’t link AP2, because Stella is already too a comma dating of my videos, not because it’s “death” or anything. But some of it is. And it’s mostly angry.

            Praise:

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            • Valerie Curren says:
              June 23, 2018 at 2:54 am

              Thank you for sharing this. If my husband checks your recs out I’ll get back to you.

              The video you shared is intriguing. I ended up adding it to one of my pages here

              Frailty


              & sharing a couple of insights.

              Your default position of praise is where we are supposed to be, I think (not that I’ve even come close to approaching that). We were made to worship the Lord & He is ever & always worthy of All Praise. When we focus on Him in worship, the things of this life that weigh us down loose some of their gravity & we sour in the Spirit into His Presence & are refreshed, restored, reborn!

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      • Valerie Curren says:
        June 22, 2018 at 7:09 pm

        I was hoping you’d jump in, Wooly, as this is an arena that you dominate with both the head & the heart…& that’s great info you shared!

        On Dust in the Wind I like to think of it as being a creative representation of God’s creation of Adam–formed him out of the dust of the earth, dust to dust, etc–when God breathed into him the breath of life–the wind, & we are all “Adam”, born in original sin & all. Any of the less than biblically supported aspects of the song then seem more like the convoluted journey of everyman as they wrestle with their relationship to the Lord.

        That perspective could also be an outgrowth of how as a believer I can encounter the Lord through the works of people who don’t necessarily know The Truth (either as a Person or the concept). I believe that is a work of the Holy Spirit where He quickens insights within my heart using whatever material is within my orbit. Also, I may just be contrary enough that to reach my soul one needs a fairly oblique trajectory because the straight on approach (Christianese &/or churchy settings) can often lead to various historically necessary walls, barriers, & resistance/analysis…God Bless YOU, Wooly!!!

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        • Wooly Covfefe says:
          June 23, 2018 at 12:13 am

          Ask your hubby’s band to do “Multiplied”, by Needtobreathe. Deathmetal style.

          That would be sick. In a good way.

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          • Valerie Curren says:
            June 23, 2018 at 3:04 am

            Interesting…they don’t take “orders” from me but I can put the bug in his ear. I wouldn’t say they actually do death metal themselves but they’ve got a pretty big range. You can hear some of their stuff here if you’re interested:

            They also have a Facebook page…Blessings!

            One of his old bands did quite a few rocked up worship songs & I used to actually be able to enter more into praise during their worship sessions (in some unusual & off beat locales) more than during church…hmm

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      • Valerie Curren says:
        June 22, 2018 at 7:42 pm

        I copied my post above to CTH & one commenter there shared this clip of Jay Sekulow’s band that you might also enjoy, fyi…

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  7. sandandsea2015 says:
    June 22, 2018 at 6:45 am

    Morning all!!!! Happy Friday! My husband got to see the new Jurassic Park movie with Chris Pratt several days ago. I rarely go to the theatre anymore, because Hollywood rarely puts out anything worth viewing and they pretty much hate Trump, ie. you and me, the Deplorables. Anyway… Chris Pratt is a good actor and a a good guy, check this out:

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    • lovely says:
      June 22, 2018 at 8:30 am

      Good morning Sand 🙂 ! Bravo Chris 🙂 .

      Ron Swanson was my favorite character on Parks and Rec.

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    • Lucille says:
      June 22, 2018 at 3:39 pm

      There are lots of Christians in the film industry and groups which hold Bible studies and prayer times. Most of them are low-key, not because they don’t want people to know of their faith, but because their purpose is to personally tell others about Christ without making themselves the central figure.

      It’s so very easy in that business to let your beliefs make a statement about YOU and not our LORD. Sort of “faith as a resume enhancer.” I’m not saying that those who do make very public statements of faith are doing that. Certainly this young man spoke poignantly about his faith and did it well and winningly. I pray that his words are taken to heart by many who heard them. That very well-publicized world, however, is full of temptations to self-aggrandisement.

      Back in the 70s when I wasn’t exactly leading a Godly life, I was invited to a luncheon at one of my co-worker’s homes. She explained it was also a Bible study and a time of prayer for those in the industry. My attitude was, well, of course, I’m Christian and would be happy to attend their luncheon. Little did I know at that time they’d been praying for me.

      Let me tell you, I couldn’t get out of that home quick enough. If someone hadn’t brought me, I would’ve been gone within minutes. Everyone was very loving and caring and speaking of Christ as if they really followed Him. Oy, conviction about my lifestyle was overwhelming, and I didn’t go back to any more meetings, though they kept inviting me.
      We remained friends…however mostly at their instigation.

      After a few years, I had a change of heart, returned to the Church, and left the film industry for a short while to work as a church office manager. But those industry friends who had been praying for me were delighted and sent me off to my new job with great affirmations of caring and promises of continued prayers.

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  8. lovely says:
    June 22, 2018 at 7:37 am

    I can’t stop laughing.

    When they invite you over for jambalaya but this is what they serve.

    Good morning folks!

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    • czarowniczy says:
      June 22, 2018 at 10:50 am

      Oh yeah, berled swimps. ‘Round heuh we calls dat ‘Friday’, gives me the urge to go down to the store and make some swimp groceries.

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      • czarowniczy says:
        June 22, 2018 at 10:55 am

        What I ain’t seeing in that picture is the telltale trace of our red-hot crab boil. Is this a Texas shrimp boil?

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    • Wooly Covfefe says:
      June 22, 2018 at 3:30 pm

      Just Add Boiling Water.

      Yep. We’re going to need a few more full sheet pans, and some people with knife skills.

      And some BIG pots of boiling water. And a few more ingredients, like spices and herbs.

      LOL! I’d say that pic is the easy part, but it’s all the easy part.

      And don’t forget to deglaze the mumami bits with a bit of dry red wine first. This bit is very important. Soup, as my chef puts it, Happens. But you must deglaze first. Browning is a necessity for flavor.

      (I’m sure I’m not telling anyone here anything they don’t know.)

      I’ve watched cooks just take all that, toss it into the boil, and call it soup. GAH!

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  9. WeeWeed says:
    June 22, 2018 at 7:52 am

    Mornin’ y’all!

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  10. nyetneetot says:
    June 22, 2018 at 7:54 am

    Mornin’ stella! (Smiter of those that ought to be smote) 😎 🍸 (Long Island Iced Tea)
    Mornin’ WeeWeed! (Master Mixologist Extrodinare) 😎 🍸 (Old Fashioned)
    Mornin’ Menagerie! 😎 |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| (Jack Daniels – Single Barrel )
    Mornin’ Ad rem! (Queen Felis catus) 🐱 🍸 (Flaming Lamborghini)
    Mornin’ Sharon! 😎 🍸 🍸 (earthquake)
    Mornin’ ytz4mee! 😎 🍸 (cosmopolitan)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! 🙂 🍸 (white wine and perrier)
    Mornin’ partyzantski! 🙂 |_| (Tom Collins)
    Mornin’ texan59! 🙂 |_| (Black & Tan)
    Mornin’ ZurichMike! 🙂 🍸 (fuzzy navel)
    Mornin’ Col.(R) Ken! (hand salute) 🙂 |_| (Boilermaker)
    Mornin’ czarina33! (aka czarina) 🙂 🍸 (Lynchburg Lemonade)
    Mornin’ czarowniczy! 🙂 |_| (Wild Turkey Rare Breed)
    Mornin’ letjusticeprevail2014! 🙂 |_| (Irish Car Bomb)
    Mornin’ Patriot1783-ctdar! (aka “ctdar”) 🙂 🍸 (grasshopper)
    Mornin’ tessa50! 🙂 🍸 (flaming volcano)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! 🙂 🍸 (sidecar)
    Mornin’ varsityward! 🙂 |_| (Godfather)
    Mornin’ MaryfromMarin! 😀 |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| (Mortlach)
    Mornin’ Wooly Covfefe! (aka “Wooly Phlox” aka “taqiyyologist”) 🙂 |_| (Roy Rogers)
    Mornin’ Howie! (aka “doodahdaze”) 🙂 |_| (Classic Daiquiri)
    Mornin’ TwoLaine! 🙂 |_| (Gin & Tonic)
    Mornin’ Sha! 🙂 🍸 (Lemon Drop)
    Mornin’ BigMamaTEA! 🙂 🍸 (Harvey Wallbanger)
    Mornin’ cetera5! (aka “Cetera”) 🙂 |_| (Blackberry wine)
    Mornin’ The Tundra PA! 🙂 🍸 (Gentleman Jack Whiskey Sling)
    Mornin’ lovely! 🙂 |_| (Backdraft)
    Mornin’ michellc! 🙂 🍸 (Salty dog)
    Mornin’ auscitizenmom! 🙂 🍸 (Kiss on the Lips)
    Mornin’ Margaret-Ann! 🙂 🍸 (White Russian)
    Mornin’ Auntie Lib! 🙂 🍸 (Tom and Jerry)
    Mornin’ holly100! 🙂 🍸 (Jack & Coke)
    Mornin’ Pam! 🙂 (Not even water)
    Mornin’ Ms.Tee! 🙂 🍸 (Mojito)
    Mornin’ koolkosherkitchen! 🙂 🍸 🍸 (Cuba Libre)
    Mornin’ ImpeachEmAll 🙂 |_| (Flaming Dr. Pepper)
    Mornin’ Monroe! 🙂 |_| (Stinger)
    Mornin’ Les! 🙂 |_| (Rusty Nail)
    Mornin’ shiloh1973! 🙂 |_| (Jack Daniels)
    Mornin’ TexasRanger! 🙂 |_| (Whiskey Smash)
    Mornin’ Ziiggii! 🙂 |_| (B52)
    Mornin’ oldiadguy! 🙂 |_| (Rum & Coke)
    Mornin’ smiley! (“stuck in spambucket”) 🙂 🍸 (Spanish coffee)
    Mornin’ derk! (“Stellars”) 🙂 🍸 (Kamikaze)
    Mornin’ Jacqueline Taylor Robson 🙂 🍸 (Shirley Temple)
    Mornin’ facebkwallflower! 🙂 |_| (Night Train Express)
    Mornin’ Ms. Cindy! (aka “Ms Cynlynn” aka “ms cynlynn”) 🙂 🍸 (1970 ducru beaucaillou)
    Mornin’ sandandsea2015! 🙂 🍸 (1961 Château Montrose)
    Mornin’ amwick! 🙂 🍸 (Blue motorcycle)
    Mornin’ hocuspocus13! 🙂 🍸 (1970 Chateau Latour)
    Mornin’ Sloth1963! 🙂 🍸 (1971 Moulin Touchais)
    Mornin’ MTeresa! (Ex-lurker) 🙂 |_| (Albanian Raki Moskat)
    Mornin’ rheavolans! (aka “Rhea Salacia Volans”) 🙂 |_| (Hot Buttered Rum)
    Mornin’ joshua! 🙂 |_| (Mudslide)
    Mornin’ John Denney! 🙂 |_| (RumChata)
    Mornin’ litenmaus! 🙂 |_| (Stolichnaya elit, no ice)
    Mornin’ kinthenorthwest! 🙂 🍸 (A Lonely Island Lost in the Middle of a Foggy Sea)
    Mornin’ TwoLaine! 🙂 |_| (Smoking Bishop)
    Mornin’ patternpuzzler! 🙂 🍸 (Old Lady)
    Mornin’ Senatssekretär FREISTAAT DANZIG! 🙂 |_| (Red Russian)
    Mornin’ G-d&Country! 🙂 🍸 (Blind Russian)
    Mornin’ Gary! 🙂 |_| (Yuengling)
    Mornin’ valeriecurren! 🙂 🍸 (Flaming Sambuca)
    Mornin’ Lucille! 🙂 🍸 (Peach Schnapps)
    Mornin’ Lburg! 🙂 🍸 (Lburg lemonade)
    Mornin’ davidhuntpe! 🙂 |_| (Baileys Irish Cream on the rocks)
    Mornin’ skipper1961! 🙂 |_| (Brompton’s Cocktail – No cherry, no umbrella, no plastic monkey)
    Mornin’ mightyconservative! 🙂 |_| (Benjamin Franklin’s clarified milk punch)
    Mornin’ whiners and complainers! 😛 (No drink for you!)
    Mornin’ to people posting that I missed. 😳
    Mornin’ to all you lurkers! 😕

    Also just in case someday; mornin’ to Elvis Chupacabra, F.D.R. in Hell and sundance! :mrgreen:

    Breakfast!

    NEW and IMPROVED breakfast with extra bacon for ZurichMike!

    Doughnuts and coffee!

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  11. stella says:
    June 22, 2018 at 11:03 am

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  12. TheOriginalG-d&Country says:
    June 22, 2018 at 11:08 am

    Morning Everyone 🙂
    Here are today’s paintings. The 1st is ‘Fireworks’ 1933 by MC Escher

    And our fadeaway is titled ‘Making Fudge’ – but by the looks of it the young wife can’t really cook I’m thinking! 😉

    To go along with these I found these 2 odd stairways. The first one is really pretty in a way

    But the stairs pictured below, even though they go well with the art, I don’t ever think I would climb!!!

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  13. TheOriginalG-d&Country says:
    June 22, 2018 at 11:19 am

    Since we were talking about sailing yesterday, here is a colorful and interesting boat that I have no idea what or where it is, but it is a really nice image. The water is just so clear!

    Lovely pics and good posts today everyone ! 🙂 I have to run and actually get some work done – am sooo far behind from all this medical stuff.

    A BIG THANK YOU to everyone who helped with my request for info yesterday. It is good to hear many had positive experiences, and the advice to continue to pursue what is causing the problem. You are such a wonderful, caring, and knowledgeable group of people. I am truly blessed to have found you. 🙂

    Off to work! Have a great day everyone !

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  14. czarowniczy says:
    June 22, 2018 at 11:44 am

    Weather Channel using its best ‘deeply concerned’ voice to caution on ‘excessively high temperatures’ that will bake the Southwest US this weekend. Geez, whoda thunk it, high heat in the desert! A sure sign of global warming?

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  15. stella says:
    June 22, 2018 at 11:48 am

    The President and First Lady will be attending this event this evening (video will be available). In the meantime, here is an example from last month:

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  16. czarowniczy says:
    June 22, 2018 at 12:17 pm

    Well the baby bird didn’t make it. As not only the runt but having been soaked in a lot of cold rain while on the ground it was just too much for his high metabolic rate. I also believe the parents don’t feed the fledges for a while as the hunger drives them to not only leave the nest but join the parents fior feeding. The poarents will still feed the newbie fliers for a while as they learn to feed on-the-wing and that hunger is a great motivator.
    Interesting that now the other birds know the nesting houses are empty they’re starting to move in. We watched blue birds and sparrows carring nesting materials into the empty houses to set up shop.
    There are a few martins, strangers, flying around the empty houses. They are just zooming around, not landing, almost as if they are looking for flock-mates to move south with. One of the neatest things is the huge flocks that accrete around things like the lake bridges, all getting together to fly south on the Gulf land route or directly over the Gulf.

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    • Jacqueline Taylor Robson says:
      June 22, 2018 at 12:53 pm

      I’ve heard them a lot lately. Very early in the morning. Sad that they won’t be heard much longer. I love the Martins, but we have a lot of Mockingbirds, so we hear them a lot too.

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      • czarowniczy says:
        June 22, 2018 at 1:41 pm

        We have one mockingbird that sits on stuff around the clothesline when we hang stuff out and just screams insults. Some years back when we ran out morning PT in an empty lot by our facity they’d come out of the brush and trees to harass us while we ran.

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        • auscitizenmom says:
          June 22, 2018 at 1:47 pm

          When I lived in S. Cal. we didn’t have many birds in our area. We did have ONE mockingbird who made a nest in the tree across the street. We used to say that he sounded like he had a megaphone, he was so loud, and often went off all night. He was very annoying.

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          • czarowniczy says:
            June 22, 2018 at 1:50 pm

            Yeah, forgot about that ‘night’ thing. We had lights galore in NOLA, you had to black-out the windows to get a good night’s sleep. We had a few that would chatter or scream at night.

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    • auscitizenmom says:
      June 22, 2018 at 1:39 pm

      😦

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  17. Wooly Covfefe says:
    June 22, 2018 at 1:12 pm

    Here you go, Valerie:

    https://www.grrrrecords.com/rez-band

    I just added them to my Schlitt/Kansas/Petra list.

    In 1972, as you recall, Christian rock was improper, and probably evil, by most of the church. I was a one-year-old baby when Resurrection Band came out.

    Heh. I rockified a tune written in ’83 by Ellen Lakshmi Goreh. Because why not?

    I love hymns, don’t get me wrong. There is a time and a place for everything, including skillful rock, soul, and even funk (look up Steven Crawford’s We Lift up Your Name, or anything by Aaron Neville.) Musicianship is a gift that is meant to be used.

    For the entire 70s, and part of the 80s, rock and roll was always evil according to the Churches, no matter what. Electric guitars, skillfully played, were evil. So were electric bass, and drums. The only organs allowed had pipes, or were double-and-triple-decker Hammonds played by my grandmother in church. And it had to be devoid of any real soul, or it was evil. It had to be a step up from Gregorian Chant, and no more, or it was evil. No amazing technical skill allowed.

    Want to evangelize to people weaned on Cream, Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, and so many astonishing 60s artists? Yeah, don’t play Gregorian Chants. They won’t listen to those skills.
    Except those by Greg X. Volz.

    It’s been astonishing to witness the history of what was derisively called “CCM”.

    In the 1000s, Christian music was contemporary.

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    • Wooly Covfefe says:
      June 22, 2018 at 1:26 pm

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      • Valerie Curren says:
        June 22, 2018 at 9:30 pm

        Nice musical selections here. Jesus Freak is one of our family’s favorite CDs. In fact I think this song may have influenced my special needs son in the naming of his blog, Josiah’s Freak Show!

        I literally already had Russ Taff’s CD in my player & as I write to you now one of his songs is playing in the mix. My husband had this CD when we met & it got regular play, along with a David Sanborn jazz CD, during our courtship. I love the song of his you chose, it’s probably my favorite from that CD! Thanks for sharing these…

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    • czarowniczy says:
      June 22, 2018 at 2:10 pm

      Usually the complaints come from church bureaucracy/hierarchy that wish to maintain a death grip on the worship process for their own ends. I follow that ‘make a jouous noise/Psalm 98:4’ doctrine. A lightening bolt from heaven would serve as a indicator He would like us to change the channel.

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      • Wooly Covfefe says:
        June 22, 2018 at 3:56 pm

        Yep. That ’53 Goreh tune was “In the Secret of His Presence”. 1853. I can rock that one out.

        Remember when we had an attorney general who wrote hymns for hymnals, and the atheist/satanist Left went nutzo? John Ashcroft, I think? Now we have an AG who mentions the bible, once again, just refers to it as a guidepost, and the atheist/satanist left goes nutzo.

        You can quote Uriah Heep, Deep Purple, and even Anton LaVey, and the Left bows down to you and gives you the one-eye sign and the “As Above, So Below” sign of Bophamet, and devil horns with their hands, while head-banging their support.

        Quote the Bible, or even mention it in passing to these people? It’s like garlic, a cross or a wooden stake to a vampire.

        Left and Right get starker every day.

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        • czarowniczy says:
          June 22, 2018 at 6:02 pm

          Yup, it was Ashcroft. Hey, the Left is just the latest group trying to replace God with themselves. Just like the dog that finally caught that bus their success will be their downfall.

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    • Valerie Curren says:
      June 22, 2018 at 9:19 pm

      I guess I was fortunate for in the ’70s, while I was pretty young, we started attending a more contemporary church, leaving a traditional denomination, & there were drums & guitars on stage for worship as well as piano & organ. There was an eclectic mix of hymns & praise & worship type “choruses” that were regularly part of worship. They also hosted some traveling musicians (I almost tried out for the “Celebrant Singers” based on their concert at my church) that were fairly contemporary–like Andrew Culverwell & Nancy Honeytree. I had Amy Grant & Sandi Patti albums as a teenager but didn’t get exposed to the grittier/better stuff til at college.

      My college friends & I saw Petra, Sweet Comfort Band, Amy Grant, Michael W. Smith,
      etc. Later my husband & I saw Randy Stonehill, Margaret Becker, The 77s, PFR, & the Dogs of Peace. One of his bands almost got to play with Stryper, I believe, a couple of years ago but that event ended up falling through. One of my college roommates was best friends with Steven Crumbacher & visiting her hometown of Riverside, CA over one break I saw him in concert at what I think was a Christian dance club–something unimaginable to this Mid-Westerner! We actually ended up finding most of his music available in the little Christian book store in Gaylord when we lived there in the ’90s…

      I found one of Steve’s old videos (hopefully below) & my old roommate appears briefly in the audience looking about college age–talk about a time warp. Reading the comments at YouTube it seems that Crumbacher had quite the following back in the day & people still have a longing for the Christian Music subculture….

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      • Menagerie says:
        June 23, 2018 at 7:30 am

        I have enjoyed and benefitted from your conversation with Wooly. While the Catholic Church’s worship centers around our liturgy, and people tend to think of it as very solemn, some parishes and priests prefer a less formal mass. Occasionally I visit some of those parishes, and I struggle very much to center myself and participate in the offering as I should.

        I love the very traditional music, the reverent formality of the mass. I love that our priests have gone back to incorporating some of the Latin prayers in our celebration of the mass. I feel that when I sing the Agnus Dei it is a personal love song, as well as a plea, to Jesus. Incidentally, my husband who was raised Catholic and the true Latin Mass was still being celebrated until he was 10 or 12, does not prefer any of the Latin.

        Anyhow, my point is this. People do worship in different ways. Catholic priests must always follow the rubrics set out by the Church in the celebration of the mass, but there is a wide difference in how that actually plays out, even though it is always and ever centered around the Liturgy of the Word and the Liturgy of the Eucharist.

        Some parishes have guitar music, and other instruments. I am a fish out of water at those masses, but in my heart I know, first that Jesus is present with us, and second, that God is being worshipped and loves the sacrifice. It is a huge flaw I struggle with in those times, the feeling that “my way” is a better way. I absolutely know that is untrue, but I can never seem to just settle in and fully enjoy the more casual mass. And I really dislike that about myself. I’m working on it!

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        • Valerie Curren says:
          June 23, 2018 at 2:01 pm

          Wow, Menagerie…thanks for sharing your perspective here!

          “I have enjoyed and benefited from your conversation with Wooly.”

          It’s funny how that conversation segued with some different people. My initial expressed frustration was more about finding fairly weak Christian music offerings On The Radio as compared to some more edgier/rockier stuff I enjoyed in the past & continue to enjoy. Some people may have seen it as an argument about what style of worship is “best” in church but that really wasn’t my intent (though that could be an interesting & highly personal & subjective discussion).

          I don’t have a Catholic background at all so am very unfamiliar with what is typical in a Mass, I’ve only ever attended one or two Masses in my life. I have a friend at church who came out of Catholicism & whose husband as returned to Catholicism in the past few years & it has been a huge problem in their marriage & has practically split their family down the middle. She is pretty much very anti-Catholic now where her husband finds deep meaning & personal comfort in the familiar trappings of the more liturgical church. She has vented to me on several areas of concern, like the Church won’t even allow her to be buried next to her husband or in a “Catholic” cemetery if she doesn’t leave her Protestant denomination, I believe…

          About 20 years ago one of my husband’s co-workers invited us to a Bible Study that turned out to be of a bunch of young Catholic couples–& there we were the only non-Catholics! There was another couple there, a couple years younger than us, Pete & Kristen. My husband Michael & Pete really hit it off–& they have become “hunting buddies” so that Pete is our generation’s non-family member who is fully part of the Up North Hunting Shack experience! We ended up getting to know each other a bit better outside of the Bible Study (that I thing we’d only attended once).

          It seems that Pete had been taught along the lines that Only Catholics had a true faith. But in the course of their numerous interactions over the years he has experienced many times where my husband’s wisdom & depth of faith in Jesus as Lord has really ministered to him personally. So within this specific relationship Pete has come to understand that at least some of us outside of the Catholic Church can have a genuine & saving relationship with the Lord & be “real Christians”…

          When I was a pre-adolescent my family moved from the traditional denominational church, a United Methodist Church my dad had grown up in, to a more contemporary Spirit-Filled Independent Church (that wouldn’t self-describe as either Charismatic nor Pentecostal). Our next-door neighbors were very committed Catholics & the dad had taken a vow of celibacy if his wife pre-deceased him, so he’s high up in the church as a deacon or something. These are precious saints whose faith is genuine & displayed in very practical ways (caring for the husband’s disabled brother for decades, taking in foster children, taking in the wife’s elderly & incapacitated mother & caring for her myriad needs in sacrificial love, etc). Anyway they invited us to a “Charismatic Catholic Prayer Meeting” which we attended in the basement of their church. It was a small gathering of “Spirit-filled Catholics” from within a larger more traditional Catholic church. We sat in a circle on folding chairs & sang choruses, some of which I already knew, & prayed for each other. I don’t remember much of the specifics but we definitely All were Brothers & Sisters in Christ!

          I personally don’t get too hung up on what might be the “right” form of worship, for it’s such a personal thing, at least as far as taste goes. Real & sincere worshipers “worship Him in spirit & in truth” & that is the key, to Exalt Him. Whatever style is much more open to interpretation, but the focus should always be on Him.

          I grew up with hymns & got exposed to praise & worship “choruses” at a pretty young age. Though stylistically I don’t prefer organ music I have a deep love for so many hymns & enjoy some of the more modern arrangements to bring the music a bit of a more contemporary flavor. I do Not prefer a lot of what passes for worship nowadays where the songs often seem to be variations on the theme of “what have you done for me lately” or taking the emphasis away from Worship & more into gratitude for whenever God meets My needs, though singing in thankfulness is important too. I am much more drawn to songs that have a solid foundation in scripture. Hymns like “It Is Well With My Soul” become even more meaningful when I learn the context from which they grew–that hymnist had observed some family members drowing, I believe–so that they reflect the deep heart’s cry for the Savior, Redeemer, Comforter, & Deliverer.

          I have attended services in many different kinds of churches & worshiped in settings from a handful of people to many thousands. If there is an honest reflection of God’s love & praise on display I can usually enter in. We are all One Body of Christ & worshiping together with other believers can be one of the most meaningful experiences in our lives if we surrender our hearts to the Lordship of Christ.

          In fact, one of the most moving worship events I ever had the privilege of encountering was on a mission trip to Liberia, West Africa. There was a church that was too poor to even have a building so they gathered around a large tree stump in a field, no chairs just joy. This congregation was filled with children & the sincerity & joy of their worship offering to the Lord eclipsed probably anything I’ve encountered in the States! They had Nothing & Everything simultaneously. “Let everything that hath breath praise the Lord!”

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  18. czarowniczy says:
    June 22, 2018 at 1:23 pm

    OY! Isn’t this a pisher!? ZTE (you remember ZTE, the Chinese tech company that was fines $1.4-billion for selling hi-tech products to Iran in violation of US sanctions) has US-made urinals in one of its restrooms in China. A leaker let it out that one of the urinals is broken and ZTE can’t get the parts due to an embartgo placed on its getting US exports due to its noncompliance with the Iran judgement.
    ZTE’s power that pee are holding in the details of how/when they’ll obtain repair parts or when employees made see relief but details are trickling out – one worker said he was told that ‘urine for a tough time’ for the forseeable future. Management is holding in their strategy but they stand united in hoping for a peeacful resolution. Whether or not one occurs depends on China’s in-continent handing of the issue.

    http://www.scmp.com/tech/article/2151937/zte-leaving-broken-american-standard-urinal-unfixed-avoid-breaching-us-export?utm_source=emarsys&utm_medium=email&utm_content=20180622&utm_campaign=scmp_china&aid=190131336&sc_src=email_2274148&sc_llid=13513&sc_lid=152683407&sc_uid=iIh53uGfC8&utm_source=emarsys&utm_medium=email

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    • czarowniczy says:
      June 22, 2018 at 1:25 pm

      It’s been a slow day.

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    • Wooly Covfefe says:
      June 22, 2018 at 1:39 pm

      I just got rid of my ZTE. Not because of the news about China. But because the screen stopped recognizing that I was touching it 80% of the time, and the constant rebooting required, and the constant failure of a fully-charged battery in three hours from full to “powering off”. I got a Motorola. 120 bucks. Latest Android (8.0 instead of 4.3) Works just fine, and the battery lasts not three hours, but four days. Four whole days. I bought it a few weeks ago. I’ve recharged it twice.

      Everything changed, and now I have to go from (analogy here) Windows 3.1 to Windows 10.

      Trouble is: every single device we use has chips made in China.

      Your car’s airbags have chips made in China. They could probably pop off every airbag in America, all at once, by pressing “Enter” on a single keyboard. Oh, imagine the chaos in the U.S.!

      To quote Melania’s jacket, and the Alt-Right in general, “I don’t care.” Just sell me a product that works. Call me names. Doxx me. Whatever. I don’t care.

      And yes, America’s crazy NSA-type agencies, of which there are a dozen, can listen into all your conversations, even those with yourself, and record every word with gazillions of terabytes of storage. We’ve all known this for decades.

      You think China doesn’t have those propensities and capabilities? Heh.

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    • Menagerie says:
      June 23, 2018 at 7:34 am

      Oh czar, did you lean back and have a drink after that one? You went all out. I’m impressed.

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  19. stella says:
    June 22, 2018 at 1:43 pm

    Another, excellent, viewpoint on refugees, asylum, immigrants etc:

    What is lost in the picture is that the US and Canada have brought in nearly 100,000 refugees from Central America, largely through the auspices of the UN High Commission upon Refugees. What is ignored by those seeking to make political hay out of the US southern border situation is that, while refugees seeking to flee Central America have recourses as refugees, what they don’t have is a recourse which guarantees being sent to the US.

    The UNHCR operates with all nations and places the number of refugees accepted within the control of the participating nations, which is exactly how it should be.

    If someone is oppressed and with a valid claim upon refugee status, their principle concern remains leaving their native country. (If we’re handing out free cars to people lacking transportation, not every one of you is going to get a Ferrari.) If they end up in Belize, instead of Canada, that’s the luck of the draw. Either way, they’re out of El Salvador.

    What we’ve largely got then at the border are those for whom the US is their own acceptable solution, and while that may indicate they have higher aspirations in life than life in Mexico or Costa Rica, it may indicate something else otherwise as well. Either way, it does not matter because the US has the sovereign right to accept not only what immigrants it desires, it also has the right to accept which refugees it desires, and achieving a mere presence upon American soil does not confer upon the refugee, technically an asylum seeker, any presumed superiority of claim to sanctuary.

    To listen to the Left on this, one would assume there are no procedures within the world community for dealing with such matters. We pay good money to the UN to ensure that there are.

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    • Lucille says:
      June 22, 2018 at 6:00 pm

      Excellent! That’s a keeper.

      After seeing an article today which contained various Bible verses regarding immigrants, strangers in our midst, foreigners, etc. and what our obligations are to them, I got to thinking about those who play the Bible card, so to speak, when what they are actually peddling or enabling is leftist philosophy with the intent to take over our nation using the stranger/foreigner/immigrant as pawn.

      With the exception of admonitions to Israel, there is not one Bible verse regarding those immigrants, etc. which is applicable to a nation state. They all are about how individual people of faith and their faith groups should treat those people in our midst. The nation state has no obligation to them except to treat them humanely. Period.

      If churches, temples or synagogues expect taxpayers to pay for the charity they should be funding, then their attitude is not based upon sincerity, IMO. They are allowing the nation to be the middle man when the interaction should be between the giver and the recipient only. Otherwise the assistance is of no spiritual benefit to the giver.

      I love how separation of religion and state is only approved when it means big bucks, jobs, food, and prestige going to the faith-based organization that’s the middle man. For a fact, these same people approving of this would be outraged if those Catholic or Baptist or Lutheran groups required the detainees to attend church or at the very least listen to Bible readings and say prayers. A church’s first obligation is to tell people about God. If you are not permitted to do that, then your organization is a phony-baloney manipulator.

      So if you want to help the downtrodden, then help them in their own countries. If they are in danger or starving like the Venezuelans, then assisting them in nearby countries would be preferable to bringing them to a culture they know nothing about.

      Time to think about our own peoples from all walks of life and upping our economy so all lives within our borders are improved. Americans are the most generous people on earth. But we’re tired of being manipulated, tired of being told we are not doing our share, tired of the elite telling us what we should do. Saying “no” at the border is our right. BUILD THAT WALL!

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  20. Lucille says:
    June 22, 2018 at 5:17 pm

    Stella, something is wrong with the connection for your post on President Trump’s meeting with the “Angel” parents. It won’t open for me.

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  21. Lucille says:
    June 22, 2018 at 6:24 pm

    TIME’s Fake Cover Shows the Left Will Shamelessly Use Children to Push an Agenda
    MRCTV

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  22. auscitizenmom says:
    June 22, 2018 at 9:00 pm

    lilbirdee12’s prayer:

    Our Heavenly Father, Your children come to you tonight to ask for healing and peace throughout our country so that we may return to being One Nation Under God. Guide us to be leaders in Your Kingdom, spreading Your Love and Salvation to all. Forgive us our sins and deliver us from evil.

    Lord, we ask for a blanket of protection over all our troops and law enforcement who serve to defend and protect us. Bless our representatives with the strength and wisdom they need to achieve the path You have chosen for us.

    Please place Your Guardian Angels of Protection around Donald Trump and Mike Pence and their families as they seek to lead America back to You.

    Grant us patience, Lord, as the evil ones try to anger us and cause us to fall.
    Spread blessings over Israel and Netanyahu.

    We humbly ask that You please comfort those who are grieving and in pain.
    Thank you Father, for Your Love and the gift of Life.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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  23. auscitizenmom says:
    June 22, 2018 at 10:21 pm

    Goodness. I have been watching the Sabata spaghetti western series over the last week or so. The first, Sabata with Lee Van Cleef, was not too bad. The second, Adios Sabata with Yul Brynner, sort of sucked. I don’t think I am going to make it through this last one, The Return of Sabata. I really like Lee Van Cleef, but these spaghetti westerns just aren’t my cup of tea. 🙄

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  24. lovely says:
    June 22, 2018 at 10:59 pm

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