General Discussion, Monday, February 26, 2018

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  1. Lucille says:

    Scientists Have Found an โ€˜Off Switchโ€™ For Celiacโ€™s Disease
    By Good News Network – Feb 24, 2018
    https://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/scientists-may-found-off-switch-celiacs-disease/

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    • czarowniczy says:

      Good, now if they could just find a genetic ‘off switch’ to switch off those pretentious toads that run around only buying things that are gluten free…
      Been noticing more and more things being labeled ‘gluten free’ like bread, cookies, garden hoses, my tractor seat cover…

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      • My dad wasted a few years of his life eating “gluten free” (having been misinformed that he had a wheat allergy)–he later got tested & whoops no allergy so back to normal food (no cardboard). However my sister-in-law who has Crohn’s Disease swears gf helps…

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        • stella says:

          Someone who is truly suffering from celiac disease (you should always be tested) has no choice but to eat foods that don’t contain gluten. For their sake, it is a wonderful thing that they are able to buy prepared foods that are certified as such, instead of having to make everything they eat from scratch.

          The rest of us can just ignore those items, if we like.

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        • czarowniczy says:

          I am diabetic so I can’t eat a box of bear claws for breakfast and I can’t see some otherwise healthy person running around frantically taking on my no-carb persona. If you have a condition that necessitates low/no gluten then go for it, but if you’re some snowflake adopting a condition because you have an empty life then please stay outta my face and diet.

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          • I really haven’t dug into the diet fad scenario much. My autistic son’s primary care doctor (who has a practice dedicated to special needs kids & houses an “autism center”) has a yearly gathering that includes food. They always have a GFCF (gluten-free & cassein-free) table clearly labeled. I believe one of the “treatments” for “autism” involves some pretty severe dietary controls.. Some people swear by this stuff, but I have no idea if it would have provided any relief in our household for I was frankly just too overwhelmed with 4 kids in 4 years to even attempt an alternative dietary route for one of them…

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            • czarowniczy says:

              I think people go a bit too overboard on diet as a cause of medical conditions. I know my family has a tendency for diabetes but I know that my sitting on my duff, after I left the military, and eating every apple pie and bear claw that couldn’t outrun me didn’t help. I went to a certified diabetes diet manager who ended up giving me a diet plan that required a computer, two Indian snake charmers and my taste buds removed. Seems she and my previous doc thought it was all about diet but I found a crusty old nurse who just modified my regular diet and put me on exercise and some ‘alternative’ meds. My A1C’s been normal for a few years now.
              You’ll note the medical-industrial complex has started wiiiiidening the ‘autism spectrum’ rather than focusing on treatment (my opinion) as it’s seeming to be the new ‘pet rock’ of the system. I remember the school trying to say that my GGS was probably autistic, using it as a threat if we pushed the ADHD issue they’d mark him as autistic. You just take it a day at a time.

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              • I’m in the early stages of the Type II Diabetes gauntlet & have quite a challenge with the med of preference (Metformin)–in its various forms it’s basically a diarrhea pill for me–ugh…

                In charting blood sugars it seems that exercise is likely the most beneficial at keeping them down…but does that get me off my butt??? Not usually…

                We have familial tendencies toward diabetes (Type II) on both my parents’ sides of the family. But my husband (& son presumably) have Hypoglycemia.

                Years back, when I was 5 months pregnant with the twins, we participated in the Labor Day Mackinac Bridge Walk, about 5 miles. I was booking it & my husband fell behind. When he finally dragged himself across the finish line he was pasty white & shaking. He was so messed up he couldn’t eat, & was basically sick for an entire day afterward…

                So the bottom line is that he & my son & likely my daughter need to eat protein/fat packed food at fairly regular intervals, especially if doing something requiring physical exertion. Me, I could probably live off “the fat of the land” for a proverbial 40 day fast!

                Wish I had your “crusty old nurse” to consult…

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                • czarowniczy says:

                  Wow, so many questions.
                  Are you seeing an endocrinologist for your Type II or just a GP? Are you taking the regular Metformin of the extended release? Has your doc tested your B-12 levels – many have a problem with B-12 that goes to the heart of diabetes? And so on.
                  Type 2 folks have fatigue frequently – it is a metabolic condition after all, and that tends to keep us moving less. You don’t need a helluva lotta exercise, about 30 minutes a day 5 days a week is a good goal. I find that ‘mall walking’ at Walmart – or at a mall – and that means walking, not just piddling along, is great and drives the blood sugar down.
                  I know people recommend cinnamon BUT a lot of the cinnamon out there is not really cinnamon and it has the potential to damage your liver and cause digestive problems.
                  Type 2 will play hob with your LDL/HDL/triglyceride levels and one of the first things they try an slap on you is statins. When, one day, the blood center called to tell me that my free tri-test I get with a donation was off the charts I finally started taking statins only to find I was NOIT a canidate for them. Cardiologist put me on Zetia and a nontraditional doc had me take phytosterols and my levels are back to normalish. Be careful of statins.
                  That 81g aspirin daily is important too as that extra sugar in your system causes inflammation that works up into kjidney and heart problems.
                  As to kidneys, they get pounded trying to excrete that sugar and if your doc doesn’t keep track of their function they can get damages – ask me how I know. Lisinopril, an old and tested drug, helps with blood pressure and its an ACE inhibitor. Drink a lot of water too.
                  Get familiar with cooking and how the ways you cook things can effect their glycemic load. Pasta boiled just to al dente raises your blood sugar more slowly than pasta cooked to a squish stage. What toppings you put on pizza can effect how quickly your sugars raise too.
                  Like white beans? Seems there’s a substance in the (other than fiber) that slows absorbtion of carb sugar tho other dried beans have enough fiber to slow absorbtion too.
                  Do you know about the 24/7 wearable glucose monitors that give you a constant glucose readout so you actually have a chart of your daily readings?
                  So many things, it’s easy for the condition to become who/what you are.

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                  • Wow! You are extremely knowledgeable & far beyond where I am. I’ll try to answer some of your questions…
                    I’ve tried both regular & extended Metformin with basically the same problem. I haven’t tried other meds due to costs.
                    I’ve seen both a diabetes specialist & a regular GP. Obviously the specialist does a more comprehensive job. I took about 4 classes of diabetes education (w/ my mom who was also fairly recently diagnosed) & am slowly building my knowledge base…
                    I had a basic cardio workup a few years back (as butt coverage for the system) & have pretty much no issues there…
                    I don’t think I’ve had b-12 levels checked.
                    I do feel fatigued most of the time & rarely feel rested no matter how much sleep I might get (I expect sleep apnea, etc is likely a factor but haven’t had a sleep workup)…
                    I’ve avoided getting the level of medical workups I might “need” primarily due to financial issues, which were only worsened with the Obamacare changes…

                    I have some data that I have yet to crunch whereby I can compare my actual dietary history with my blood sugars to see if there are any discernible patterns that might reveal some food combos that have actually worked for me.

                    I was only required to take my blood levels once a day, as I think that I’m fairly “early” in that diabetes journey…

                    I haven’t needed other meds for other potential issues so either those issues are minimal, or they haven’t yet been uncovered. I am in line to participate in a diabetes research study which will include medical monitoring & a medication trial, so that way I can get some “care” without out-of-pocket costs…

                    I think fully accepting & adjusting to the fact of diabetes is a pretty big lifestyle change. It’s difficult to change those old habits, especially when the dangers of not making needed changes are mostly hidden &/or potentially alarmist…

                    There are a couple of local providers that advertise free lunch or dinner seminar to hawk their programs of more controlled diet management of Type II Diabetes without meds. I hope to attend one of them, preferably with my mom, so that we can consider acting on that new info…

                    Well I’ve obviously got a lot of work to do in these areas, which is rather wearisome to even contemplate. Thanks for all you’ve shared–a Huge Amount of food for thought!

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                  • auscitizenmom says:

                    I am not diabetic, but I have read articles in the last few years about corn syrup and its connection to diabetes. You just might want to keep that in mind when you go to the seminar and ask their opinion about it.

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                  • Thanks for the tip!

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                  • czarowniczy says:

                    just me but I’d avoid the other non-metformin meds. Acrually I do. There are suits now on these meds as they’ve caused nasty side effects including death – we call them lawyer drugs’ the projected costs of suits is built into them. As so many also have pancreatic problems as a potential side effect, and pancreatitis can be fatal, I never saw the reason to take a drug for a pancreatic problem that could damage the pancreas. As metformin is being looked at as a life extender and anti-cancer drug I feel that a very minor side effect, which went away for me, is a small price.
                    Are you Type 2 or pre-diabetic? Interesting they only have you testing once – erarlt mormiong? I have my expensive meter the company gave the hospital to give me as they make their $$$ off the test strips. My insurance won’t pay for more than the 3 times a day the doic says test so what I did was to go to the Walmart and buy their store meter and strips which are waaaaaaay cheaper. It reads within 5 or so points of the expensive one which is OK. I take the expensive one to the hospital when they do my A1C and test it with their more expensive one just to get a warm fuzzy. Yes your meter has a test solution but it never hurts to test it against a hospital calibrated one. The cheaper Walmart one lets you test whenever so you can get the freel of how you feel at certain sugar levels – especially the ’60 minutes after eating’ benchmark.
                    Yup, there are days when I’m so tired I can hardly get up. I can usually work through it and get some harder outside work done but I’ll feel it the next day or two, depending on exergy expended. Type 2 is a metabolic disease, thpose cells that need that circuilating sugar just can’t take it in, the cells become resistent to it so it gets excreted/stored as fat. Here’s the bite: medicine doesn’t know why. You will hear lots of diab etics talk about fatigue but so far there’s nothing that can be done for it.
                    Yes, I’ve been told to take the sleep tests, I consider them the latest medicine cash cow. Like celiac disease there are people with apnea or some other sleep condition but I believe it’s another way docs create revenue. I must have a dozen people I know who are going to bed strapped into one of those NASA positive pressure machines and only one I know of feels any better. If the problem’s diabetes-related fatigue the CPAP won’t help…OK, it’ll help the doc$ bottom line but not you. Also watch out for ghe ‘depression’ diagnosis. Just a month ago I described the fatigue to my new PCF who, with scant knowledge of me, immediately suggests a depression screening. When I suggested it might be diabetes related as the condition is quite common he mumbles on and gets back to deprerssion. As I’m being treated by a non-corporate specialist he will not address the diabetes due to, among other things, liability.
                    Be careful and do a lotta research (more on that later) as we are cash cows and we can be tested to death due to the symptoms diabetes presents.

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                  • Thanks for the insight on metformin…I probably need to “re-calibrate” myself to it a bit. I appreciate your realism/cynicism of the way the “medical industrial complex” tends to function in fads & cash cows. I’m frankly just not that into my own condition & am willing to live with varying degrees of discomfort rather than being turned into a testing guinea pig. I expect our forebears lived with many conditions & did relatively well in their “ignorance” & fortitude.

                    Eating better, more balanced, more natural, and more regularly & exercising moderately are really no brainers. I just need to get off my bum & do it (easier said than done). Given I basically live in a modified frat house making dietary changes that can be livable for the family will be a bit of a challenge…small steps incorporated gradually & perhaps we’ll end up heading in the right direction.

                    I agree with the “lotta research” approach…it’s just a matter of mood, motivation, & time (when there are so many other things I’d rather be doing!)

                    On the blood testing I’m supposed to alternate between a fasting blood draw & one 2 hours after a meal, once per day…The machine I have was “given” to me by the Diabetes doctor & the strips & meds might come out to about $40/month…still a bit steep…

                    I just heard a radio commercial on one of those seminars touting natural, God-given/biblical means of managing blood sugars, reducing or even eliminating the need for meds…hmm…

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                  • czarowniczy says:

                    Told ya it’s a racket – ‘here, take a blood glucose meter! They’re FREE!’.
                    Here’s the thing – don’;t eat processed crap and your blood sugar goescdow, and most docs want your 3 month A1C to be 7 or less…aim for aty least 6. From a “SURPRISE!” 13 (my doc missed my diabetes – another story) I got it down to 7 in 6 months, 5.5 in just over a year.
                    Want motivation? My old boss is diabetic. From a SF officer that ran miles every day to retirement where he (and I) turned into jelly fish. Difference was I went out and fought it, he just had a major stroke (already has heart problems) and his legs have lost their sense of feel and he has numerous sores as his body’s lost a lot of its perpipheral circulation – due to his uncontrolled diabetes.
                    That circulating sugar raises hell with the insides of you veins and arteries. Yes eating changes can help a lot but eating changes along with some exercise is super. Also might want to look at the old Sugar Busters diet books as they are designed to keep blood sugar levels down – see if Amazon has a ‘Sugarfree New Orleans…” cookbook and/or ‘Paul Prudhomme’s Fork in the Road’ cookbook for healthy recepies with taste. Just because you’re eating diabetes healthy doesn’t mean you or the family has to miss taste.

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                  • Thanks for all of that. In that diabetes education class I took they actually mentioned that a glass of wine a day can also keep the sugars down.

                    Sorry about your boss but “way to go” for you–what an amazing testimony of bringing down those A1C’s in record time!!!

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                  • czarowniczy says:

                    Booze’s major problem, unless it’s sugar-added, is the empty calories. The liver actually uses calories to break the alcohol down – enjoy.
                    I’ll tell how I used a supplement out of ayurvedic medicine to whack the A1C – it’s harmless and you can’tbtake too much but it works. Like I said, looking at the broken diabetics around my office and my friends got me thinking that ain’t the way In wanna go.
                    We just came back in from working all afternoon outside…and had a glass of wine.

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                  • “ayurvedic medicine”–what is this? I’ve never heard of it before…

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                  • czarowniczy says:

                    Traditional Indian medicine. I was pointed towards fenugreek as way to lower blood sugar. It’s been used for increasing milk supplies in lactating mothers for thousands of years – some docs still recommend it before they do more modern drugs that have side effects. Worst side effect from fenugreek is you make take on the slight aroma of maple syrup if you go overboard with it.

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                  • stella says:

                    My daughter used fenugreek when breast feeding.

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                  • czarowniczy says:

                    Stuff drops my blood sugar like a hammer with zero side effects. Meanwhile docs keep on hinting I should try some new, latest-greatest drug brand new on the market – and why?

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                  • czarowniczy says:

                    When I started going through figures for what a dangerous dose of fenugreek might be the best I could vcome up with is a shipping pallet of it falling on you from a great height.

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                  • Thanks, I’ll have to check that out!

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              • In the ADHD/Ausitsm arena we experienced almost the opposite of your family’s nightmare. My son was diagnosed with “atypical autism” aka PDD-NOS as a preschooler. However, once we put him in regular school, following special-ed preschool, the school personnel absolutely refused to acknowledge his Autism, nor intervene appropriately. His ADHD was so obvious that that, at least, was rarely an area of dispute. They basically wanted to call him mentally retarded (or the PC term of art), which he clearly was Not, & deny him needed services of an autism nature…

                Now, beyond High School, his “supports coordinator/case manager” out of Community Mental Health (for developmental disabilities) is still amazed that he never received ABA therapy either through the school or CMH (both of which were mandated by law to provide this crucial intervention, I believe)…

                Anyway, I have many tales of woe & lingering “baggage” to slowly work through because of real violations done to him &/or not done for him. One good outcome is that the lingering pain & need to “process” much of that quagmire led to me originally signing up for a blog at Word Press, as an outlet…& through God’s mercy allowed me to wander into Stella’s & CTH’s orbit!

                I’ve written sporadically about some of those special ed &/or medical challenges we’ve faced periodically, & it might be an encouragement to you (or others) here’s a couple postings along those lines:

                https://specialconnections.wordpress.com/2016/02/18/commenting-on-only-the-rich-will-have-rights-article/

                https://specialconnections.wordpress.com/about/

                “the medical-industrial complex has started wiiiiidening the โ€˜autism spectrumโ€™ rather than focusing on treatment”…I think it is very hard to come up with “treatment” for a condition that has such a wide variety of symptomology. If one doesn’t know the origin or cause of “autism” it’s difficult to know how to “treat” it. For our family it’s become a seemingly life-long learning curve. No one knows my son, Josiah, better than his immediate family members & we often assist him in interpreting the world around him or interpreting him for the world!
                Best Regards to You & your extended clan!

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                • czarowniczy says:

                  Czarina was a QA manager at the state of Louisiana’s home for the state’s worst (I use vthe term advisedly) of the worst ‘reatarded’. The state used to classify and house its developmentally disabled not by locale but by type of mental disability and her school had those who were at the bottom of the state’s treatment scale so she had years of developing and supervising the development of IEPs – real functioning IEPs.
                  She was/still is invaluable in smascking the school with the law and its requirements, as you know if the school can stall you and make you bavk down they will, they don’t like spending the time or the money dedicated to those areas, they’d like to spend it elsewhere.
                  As you know the school’s not required to take an outside expert’s diagnosis of the child’s condition, it’s allowed to use its own ‘in house’ ‘experts’ whose agenda is not necessarily your child’s. We had to take GGS 50+ miles north to a real, certified ADHD expert so that we could get something to use as a lever. After many months of delaying his tersting a copy of our diagnosis was presented along with the name of aperson at the Dallas office of the Federal DoE who, the school was told, would like a copy of both if the school’s differed. For the next two years one very PO’d school psych attended all of the IEP meetyings.
                  It’s a battle, I’m just glad we are retired and have enough time to fight this head-on. God help those who have regular jobs and can be raked over the coals by the school system.

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                  • Wow! I’d like to say I don’t know where you’re coming from but I Really Do. It’s such a huge battleground. What a blessing that your GGS (great-grandson?) has you both to do battle on his behalf.

                    I don’t know if there are any Real solutions to the challenges of managing the special needs child’s requirements & getting “safety net” systems to live up to billing & legal mandates. I honestly don’t know how “regular” people do it, especially when those that are charged with the student’s care (like the special ed “case manager”) are more focused on what the school wants than what the student needs or the law requires.

                    I tried to get my son evaluated by an autism & communication disorders expert but the costs were prohibitive & the school absolutely refused to acquiesce to that evaluation as one of the allowed (I forget the term) outside evals that the law provides for. Our battles were so frustrating with the school so entrenched in its illegal approaches but we got minimal leverage because we couldn’t find free legal help & couldn’t afford the legal fees if we could have hired such assistance, & they just disregarded the letter & spirit of the law no matter how much we quoted it chapter & verse. The last time we pursued the legal avenue, the lawyer wanted a minimum of $20,000 to see our son’s case through a Due Process Hearing…heavy sigh.

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                  • czarowniczy says:

                    Dig around on the internet as most areas have support groups of special ed parents and they know the drills. Also, call the Federal DoE and get the number of your regional office as they have the responsibility for dealing with non-complying schools and those DoE folks really do bug the schools.

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                  • Well, now that my son is “graduated” (with less than 3rd grade math skills) further battles seem rather moot. I’m trying to prayerfully consider whether re-entering the workforce in an arena where my direct experiences in educational/medical advocacy may be of benefit to others is feasible. We’ll see. I’m also debating contacting a local educational advocate to see if I can join with her in some of her writing initiatives to try to positively impact the process–but usually my energy isn’t sufficient to contemplate taking on anyone else’s battles yet…we’ll see..

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                  • czarowniczy says:

                    School bureaucrawts be like lard hogs, they don’t move unless you really rerally poke ’em with a really really sharp stick. Go get ‘um.

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                  • I’m visualizing some old black & white photo online with a Huge feral pig strung up by the triumphant hunters after the kill!

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                  • czarowniczy says:

                    Yup, like here where it’s open season, either sex and no bag limit.

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      • michellc says:

        Organic, vegan and gluten free, drives me nuts.

        I was in the farm store the other day to buy some dewormer and a bag of chicken scratch. I wasn’t paying close attention saw the stack I always buy and grabbed a bag off the stack and threw it on my feed cart. As I was heading to the check out, I noticed the “organic” on the bag and realized someone had thrown it on the stack of other chicken scratch. I turn around and go back to get the $8 sack (50 lbs) of chicken scratch and throw back the organic bag. When I found it’s stack it was $32 for a 40 lb sack.

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        • The Tundra PA says:

          Organic, vegan and gluten free, drives me nuts.

          What I dislike is the self-righteousness of those who chose to adhere to these dietary restrictions.

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        • stella says:

          “Organic” is generally a meaningless term. Gluten free is not, even though we are all irritated by those who insist that going gluten free is healthy even when they don’t have celiac disease.

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          • michellc says:

            I don’t have a problem with it if it wasn’t for all the people who claim they need it and don’t.
            Then it’s as annoying as the vegan stuff when it comes to the things that are labeled gluten free or vegan that were always gluten free or vegan before it became a thing.

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        • czarowniczy says:

          We’re always thinking of getting some chickens but can’t seem to get around to building a coop. If/when we do get around creating a mobile buffet for the local critters the closest they’ll get to organic is the cornucopia of crickets, grasshoppers and other bugs we have – we generally don’t spray. I presume they ‘ll also roost and dine in the fruit trees while pecking the heck outta our garden.

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          • michellc says:

            Our chickens run free during the day and are locked up at night. Outside of scraps and what they steal from the pigs they really only get fed during the winter when they don’t have bugs and worms to eat.
            I’m not about to buy dried meal worms either, but it’s still hilarious to watch and hear him get riled up.

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            • stella says:

              When I was a kid, we had a fenced chicken yard and a chicken coop. Ours were locked up at night too. Saves from some critter attacks.

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            • czarowniczy says:

              We have all manner of chicken stealing critters brazenly trot thru our yard in daytime. Our neighbors lost a whole coop of layers to a big coon family in just one night – appears they scoped the coop out then made a hole and KFC’d the entire flock. I just gotta figure out how to keep the coons/skunks/foxes from chewing thru the floor/siding while keeping the snakes from slithering into thru any openings.

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              • michellc says:

                We close them up at night where nothing can get in. We do have a small pen built off the back of it for when we have older chicks, but we have a little door on it that we can lock from the inside. Then the main door is a 2X4 frame with plywood and sheet metal.
                Coons are smart animals and they figure out how to open locks, that’s why we moved the lock to the inside. Then the main door because they could get it unlocked we put a cinder block in front of it and as of yet none of them have been on steroids and able to move it.
                Plus our dog kills many of them. We find dead coons all the time.

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                • czarowniczy says:

                  Our dogs won’t generaaly mess with coons, they’re union and that ain’t in their contract. Possums, yes-coons no. Our coons travel in families and work at chewing thru the walls so we’d have to have a lotta wire and sheet metal on the bottom and sidfe and hope the coons don’t get a can opener.

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                  • stella says:

                    I had to get a corrugated metal galvanized steel trash can to keep out the vermin – including the coons, who chewed a giant hole in the bottom and lid of two of my Rubbermaid trash containers.

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                  • auscitizenmom says:

                    We have the same problem here in the apt. complex. We have those rubbermaid trashcans and so many of them have holes chewed in the bottoms and lids and then the trash get strewed all over the yards. Some of it is racoons, which we have, and some is the squirrels. It just takes the squirrels longer.

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                  • stella says:

                    I think the squirrels are opportunists. They let the coons make the holes, then they use them.

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                  • auscitizenmom says:

                    Probably. I just have trouble with how many raccoons would be around here. ๐Ÿ˜ฏ

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                  • czarowniczy says:

                    Out here they travel in family packs. Ain’t unusual to be out at night with a flashlight, point it out into theb trees and see a half dozen or more calculating green eyes looking right back at you.

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                  • michellc says:

                    That’s why I have LGD, they’d take on a bear or mountain lion to protect their animals.
                    The only problem with ours is the goats come first, so if there’s a threat the chickens are an after thought. ๐Ÿ™‚ Good thing is coons don’t want to go after goats, so they get killed the majority of the time.

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                  • czarowniczy says:

                    My Golden lab/hound mix took on a boar, possums, armadillos and is particularly fond of taking on moccasins (two vet trips there) but coon just ain’rt in her job description. I am really not sure if the beagle/terrier will take them on but so far she just serves as a security monitor – barks up a storm.

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                  • michellc says:

                    A coon can tear a dog up. My dad coon hunted and I saw some pretty bad damage done to dogs.

                    The worst ours has ever gotten is a bite that barely broke the skin, but then that means a rabies booster. Our vet recommends it and I don’t want a 200 lb rabid dog, so I take no chances. I saw Cujo. lol

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                  • czarowniczy says:

                    Way back in the early 70s we had trustee prisoners working at various county agencies. We had a few at the pound that did short-hoe work, one of the jobs was emptying out no-kill wildlife traps.
                    One day the trucks brought in a Havahart trap with a huge boar coon in it. He was pissed to the max and we were trying to work out how to get him out so we could get him into a transport cage for relocation. While we were figurin’ over comes this Haitian prisoner telling us how animal-wise he was, how he jes haf to tawk to da coon and make duh coon trus’ him. He wuz gunna show us how da thang wuz dun.
                    He upendfs the trap and that coon just huinkered down in the bottom, eyes fixed on the prisoner and ignoring us like we didn’t exist. The prisoner talks to him, makes nicey-nice, makes some sing-song talk…the bcoon’s still fixed on him…until finally he tells us he’s ready to pick up the coon and put it in the transport cage…don’t get ahead of me here.
                    The prisioner unlocks the end door and swings it up, and that coon doesn’t wait for him to reach in, it screams outta the cage…but doesn’t run away. Instead it msade straight for the prisoner and, in full the Jim Croce sense, bit that man everywhere but the soles of his feet. He just ran up, down and all over the guy, biting on the move. Not much we could do – surely no one was going to reach over and grab it and neither could we shoot it. The prisoner and the coon hit the ground at the same time, the prisoner rolled up into a ball and the coon took one short look at us (I could swear he smiled) and ran off over the fence and was gone.
                    Wiseass ended up getting transferred to another posting and a full round of rabies shots.

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                  • michellc says:

                    We’ve never attempted to remove a coon from a live trap. Someone asked us one time the best way to stop a coon that was killing their chickens.
                    We told them by live trapping them, bait it with cat food, coons love cat food.
                    They asked how you get them out and where do you release them. Well, we don’t release them and have never tried. They’re easy to take out of the cage after they’re no longer moving.

                    They said they could never shoot a defenseless animal.
                    Soooo, they went and asked advice from someone else. This person told them the coon would be grateful to be released and just open it up and they’d run off.
                    First they found out even those little holes on a live trap are not small enough to stop a coon’s claws from scratching you. That didn’t deter them, the husband just put on welding gloves and they took it to a nice creek about 5 miles away. He found out the hard way that coons aren’t so grateful to be turned loose. He ended up with over 100 stitches and rabies shots.

                    He called us up a few weeks later and said he should have listened to us and would never look at a coon as a defenseless animal again.

                    Maybe some get lucky, but I don’t have the best of luck and am not going to test it with a pissed off coon. I’ve yet to see one trapped that wasn’t pissed off.

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                  • czarowniczy says:

                    Yup, if I gotta remove one I’ll ‘remove’ it. Plenty of recipies for them too.

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                  • michellc says:

                    I’ve never ate a coon or a possum.

                    My parents were born and raised in Arkansas, so it’s my roots, you’d think I would have. ๐Ÿ™‚

                    It’s always been tons of fun though to tell new folks that marry into our family when we go to Arkansas for family reunions, funerals and weddings where there is always food that they’ll be eating possum and coon.

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                  • czarowniczy says:

                    You should mention that they’d better hurry up because these marriages might net be that common soon, they’re arunnin’ outta sisters and 1st cousins.

                    I love araggin’ on my big city friends like that.

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                  • michellc says:

                    LOL!!!

                    When I was younger I’d get teased by friends when they found out my extended family lived in Arkansas and my parents were born and raised in Arkansas. When they’d ask if my parents were cousins, I’d tell them, “just 3rd cousins.”

                    That of course was back in the day when teasing didn’t cause a kid vapors.

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                  • czarowniczy says:

                    Yeah, I like it when snooty snots complain about the Mississippi flag because it has the confederate flag incorporated. I tell them that just a few years ago we had a referendum on the flag and 65% voted to keep it as is. When I mention that 37% of the state is black and many of them voted to keep the flag…talk about a case of the vapors.

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                  • michellc says:

                    When all the hoopla started about the confederate flag there was a black guy selling them in Tulsa. Of course they had to report it as “news” on all 4 local news stations.
                    They just couldn’t understand why a black man had no problem with the confederate flag.

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                  • czarowniczy says:

                    We had blacks waving the flag at ‘let’s keep it’ petition sites and the prime compliners were whites telling them how wrong they were.

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                  • michellc says:

                    White liberals are the devil.

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                  • czarowniczy says:

                    Da blue-eyed devuh

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        • lovely says:

          Well heck Michelle!! No wonder you don’t have happy chickens kickin’ up their feet and carrying your groceries to the door!

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      • Lucille says:

        Gotta take care of the gluteus maximus, Czar

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      • michellc says:

        BTW, when I want to get my DH fired up, I tell him to buy his chickens organic meal worm treats. For some reason he has an issue with chicken treats. lol

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      • Ever get a piece of gluten-free bread caught in a commercial toaster and have it burn?

        It smells exactly like burning plastic. Makes you wonder what they’re using to replace the gluten chains. I’m guessing plastic.

        Then we have these customers, who only started doing this when Oprah told them to a few years ago, who ask the server, who then has to come ask the kitchen, “Does item X contain any gluten?” Chicken soup. Yep, it has noodles, which contain wheat. If the customer is so darn invested in the gluten-free lifestyle, why don’t they know that noodles contain wheat, and that potatoes don’t? Why don’t they know this? “Is your coffee gluten free?” “Yes, ma’am. Coffee doesn’t contain wheat.” Why are our health-conscious customers so darn stupid? Anything made with white sauce contains wheat. They don’t know this salient fact. I wanna slap them all, sometimes. We’re kitchen workers, cooks, and chefs. Not your personal hospital dieticians. Google it, dummy. Quit bothering us.

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        • czarowniczy says:

          First off, the closest anything non-gluton ever gets to my toaster is prerhaps the knife I use to jiggle a recalcitrant bagel from its clutches. Oiur house isd neither gluten or glutton free.

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        • lovely says:

          It smells exactly like burning plastic.

          ๐Ÿ˜ฌ

          Wooly you painted a scent, bravo!

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        • czarina33 says:

          Do you remember Jay Walking? Jay Leno would go out in the street to ask people common knowledge ??s, & broadcast the best answers, like “where is Canada?”. My favorite was “where does flour come from?” Most people he showed never thought past the bag in the store. So why are we surprised they don’t know what’s in the food, or more obtusely, that chicken scratch is likely the same whether it’s “organic” or not.

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    • stella says:

      That is wonderful. I know two people who have this disease. The mother had serious side effects and is very sensitive to exposure to gluten.

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  2. czarowniczy says:

    Wonder if there are enough people next door from five or so years ago who are still there and would not roll their eyes if I said: “I told you so” regarding the current state in Syria?

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  3. Michigander assaulted by judiciary for exercising Free Speech Rights…

    “Early in the nationโ€™s history, โ€œjudges often informed jurors of their nullification right.โ€

    โ€œFor example, our first Chief Justice, John Jay, told jurors, โ€˜You have a right to take upon yourselves to judge [both the facts and law].โ€™ In 1805, one of the charges against Justice Samuel Chase in his impeachment trial was that he wrongly prevented an attorney from arguing to a jury that the law should not be followed.โ€

    However, over time the judiciary reversed its position, and in 1895 a defendantโ€™s conviction was affirmed even though the trial judge โ€œrefused the defense attorneyโ€™s request to let the jury know of their nullification power.โ€

    Now, prosecutors and judges routinely oppose even discussion of the concept, and judges tell jurors โ€œit is their duty to apply the law as it is given to them, whether they agree with the law or not,โ€ the report said.”

    Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2018/02/court-to-rule-on-judges-ban-on-sidewalk-speech/#sgWhB4pS8ZPCQWbU.99

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    • rheavolans says:

      Here’s the problem with nullification, because I sat through a bunch of that on Twitter a few years ago when it was big. Most people these days know practically nothing about the law making process and probably couldn’t name their Federal Reps if you paid them, much less their state reps.

      When I was in college I got to hear about how It Wasn’t Fair that people who didn’t vote didn’t get to be on juries and how they try to draw jury pools differently because of that.

      I say all that to say I don’t think most juries anymore can be trusted with the power of nullification. The court does have to follow laws, I agree, but I don’t think most juries are responsible enough to be allowed to nullify laws.

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      • I honestly don’t know all that much about the topic, which is why I quoted some of the history in the WND article. However if nullification Is a Right of “the people”, regardless of how qualified they are to use it, it would seem prudent to not hide it away.

        It sounds like the “nullification right” is another aspect of separation of powers & “reserved to the states or the people”–as in any non-enumerated powers (things Not spelled out in the Constitution as belonging to the Federal Government) Automatically belong to the States &/or the People…

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      • lovely says:

        Jurors have a to right know about jury nullification.

        Keith Wood had the right to do what he was doing this is judicial malfeasance and I suspect Wood’s will eventually be awarded a handsome sum in a civil lawsuit.

        Never piss off a judge it is one of my cardinal rules. Figure it out. Do it another way. A judge can take away your freedom for any reason he so chooses and it can be an ugly long battle to win it back.

        I agree with you Rhea that the vast majority of jurors are not sophisticated enough to understand what Jury Nullification actually entails. My belief is that ignorant jurors, agenda driven jurors would only hear “Hey even if you think the evidence shows the defendant is guilty you can still acquit him” most jurors would not understand the legal qualifications to Jury Nullification and would simply use it as an activist tool.

        That said most activist jurors simply vote not guilty (OJ Simpson) even when they know the defendant is guilty and/or the trial ends with an acquittal or mistrial.

        From the article;

        The jury tampering charge producted a conviction after the district court simply redefined state recognition of a โ€œjurorโ€ to be someone who is โ€œmerely summoned to appear.โ€

        The appeal points out state law says jury tampering happens when someone tries to influence a โ€œjuror in any case,โ€ and there was no jury at the time Wood was handing out pamphlets.

        And the state Supreme Court has stated a โ€œjury is not a jury until it is sworn.โ€

        The judge even revoked Wood’s bond. This is sheer tyranny.

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        • michellc says:

          When I got called for jury duty and looked around at many of the people sitting in there with me all I could think was, “I hope I never have allow on about half of these people.”

          There were signs everywhere telling you cellphones must be turned off and electronics not allowed. 3/4 of them were playing on phones or I-pads, some taking selfies and pictures of the court room, I’m sure to post online.

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    • czarowniczy says:

      Firts thing that came to mind was the ‘judgement not withstanding verdict’ in my old civil court or a ‘directed verdict’ in the criminal one. Judges and juries were handed great powers in US courts with the supposition that they’d be restrained and …judicial…in their use. Problem is judges and juries care human and regularly act so,

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      • rheavolans says:

        My issue isn’t that they are human, it’s that common sense can’t be found anymore.

        I think that a court could pick twelve people at random off this blog and have a sane, conscientious jury that could correctly wield jury nullification powers. I am not sure you could go elsewhere and get the same results. Back in the early days of this country, it was probably a good thing for juries to have, but I don’t think it is anymore.

        I sat in a class where my instructor told us that questions were being asked about how juries were picked and that some people had started to think It Wasn’t Fair that people who didn’t get to vote didn’t get to sit on a jury (imagine that: ignoring one part of your civic duty excludes you from the rest of it.) Then we got to how since criminals don’t vote, shouldn’t they be tried by their peers who also don’t vote?

        What could possibly go wrong?

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        • Here? Any 12. No question. You could pick, non-randomly, the 12 stupidest, drunkest commenters here, and have a morally good, fair, intelligent, and reasoning jury.

          Elsewhere? Not a lot of sites. AoSHQ, yes. Vox Popoli, absolutely. First Things? Definitely.

          YouTube? Yahoo News? H no.

          Think: we knew more than the jury that exhonorated G. Zimmerman. All of us. We saw lots and lots of things that that jury wasn’t allowed to see, like the contents of Martin’s phone. Videos of him officiating fights, and of him beating up local old dudes for their bike.

          Even though we are a reasoning and most reasonable crew here, and even though we had far more information, that jury still came to the right conclusion. That’s astonishing. Given what was withheld from them, improbable.

          It sucks that juries are not allowed to see the truth the public can see. If anything, they should be able to see more of the truth than we are allowed, right? I think a jury or even a juror should be allowed to file FOIA requests during the trial, and be given priority in line.

          The courtroom is a joke and a play and a farce if truth is disallowed the jurors. And it is.

          “First…” — W. Shakespeare

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  4. nyetneetot says:

    Mornin’ stella! (Smiter of those that ought to be smote) ๐Ÿ˜Ž ๐Ÿธ (Long Island Iced Tea)
    Mornin’ WeeWeed! (Master Mixologist Extrodinare) ๐Ÿ˜Ž ๐Ÿธ (Old Fashioned)
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    Mornin’ ytz4mee! ๐Ÿ˜Ž ๐Ÿธ (cosmopolitan)
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    Mornin’ TwoLaine! ๐Ÿ™‚ |_| (Gin & Tonic)
    Mornin’ Sha! ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿธ (Lemon Drop)
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    Mornin’ The Tundra PA! ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿธ (Gentleman Jack Whiskey Sling)
    Mornin’ lovely! ๐Ÿ™‚ |_| (Backdraft)
    Mornin’ michellc! ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿธ (Salty dog)
    Mornin’ auscitizenmom! ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿธ (Kiss on the Lips)
    Mornin’ Margaret-Ann! ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿธ (White Russian)
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    Mornin’ Pam! ๐Ÿ™‚ (Not even water)
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    Mornin’ amwick! ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿธ (Blue motorcycle)
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    Mornin’ MTeresa! (Ex-lurker) ๐Ÿ™‚ |_| (Albanian Raki Moskat)
    Mornin’ rheavolans! (aka “Rhea Salacia Volans”) ๐Ÿ™‚ |_| (Hot Buttered Rum)
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    Mornin’ whiners and complainers! ๐Ÿ˜› (No drink for you!)
    Mornin’ to people posting that I missed. ๐Ÿ˜ณ
    Mornin’ to all you lurkers! ๐Ÿ˜•

    Also just in case someday; mornin’ to Elvis Chupacabra, F.D.R. in Hell and sundance! :mrgreen:

    Breakfast!

    NEW and IMPROVED breakfast with extra bacon for ZurichMike!

    Doughnuts and coffee!

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  5. WeeWeed says:

    Mornin’ kids!

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  6. lovely says:

    Have a good day folks ๐Ÿ™‚ !

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    • michellc says:

      I don’t know if you saw it on yesterday’s thread, but I shared a link with you about the latest goat thing, now they’re going to have goat caddies. lol

      Good morning!

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      • joshua says:

        used to drive a caddy…now its lincolns…don’t know what goats drive.

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      • lovely says:

        No I missed it I’ll go back and look ! Goat caddies ?๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜‚ Thanks!

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        • michellc says:

          Yep, I’ve heard of pack goats before, but they’re not on a golf course with people who have probably never seen a goat in their life before. Nobody is going to care what they eat or where they poop and pee. lol

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          • lovely says:

            I just found the link and I’m off to check it out ๐Ÿ™‚ !

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          • lovely says:

            The kid caddies can carry drinks, balls, tees and a few clubs in special satchels strapped to their bodies and are professionally trained on the courseโ€™s โ€œAmerican Range Goatโ€ ranch, the retreat said.

            And the goats are just going to follow their person around and stand there as they golf ? I mean I don’t know any goats personally but it seems like they will just wander off?

            And of course PETA is already mad ๐Ÿ™„.

            I would go if I could be guaranteed this chap !

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            • lovely says:

              Promises self not to make any Debbie Wasserman Schultz jokes.

              ๐Ÿ˜Ž

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            • stella says:

              How do they keep the goats from eating the landscaping? Or pooping all over the fairways?

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            • michellc says:

              I saw lead ropes on some of them, so it looks like they expect the golfers to “lead” the goats around.
              A goat that doesn’t want to move is harder to pull than a horse. Those pictures also looked like boer goats, which are huge goats that are as strong as an ox.

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              • stella says:

                I finally read the article at the New York Post. They said something about how goats like to butt, and they expect a few bruised golfers?

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                • michellc says:

                  Yes, sometimes because they’re mean and other times really tame goats will think you want to play. That’s what they do when they fight each other or play with each other. They will also jump on you and bite you.

                  The only way I can see them being willing participants is for food, which would probably mean treats the golfers also have to give.

                  Granted I’ve never tried to train a goat, but I’ve raised many on a bottle and they think you’re their mama and will come like a dog when you say their name. Even years later when they’re out in the pasture, they’ll come running when they see you. They still though will greet you for awhile and maybe follow you around awhile, but they’re soon bored with you and off browsing for food.

                  BTW, getting butted by any goat hurts. Getting butted by a big boer goat can throw you through the air. I know, we had them once upon a time and a wether(castrated male) came up behind me and butted me and I went flying. If they have horns then you have another issue, even tame ones can accidentally get you with their horns. An ornery one can really hurt you because they will hook you with their horns.

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                • lovely says:

                  It’s almost too funny to be true. It would be a great Benny Hill skit or Monty Python short.

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              • lovely says:

                Well I hope there is video at some point of knuckleheads and ox-like goats on the golf course ๐Ÿ™‚ !

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                • michellc says:

                  Me too!

                  My youngest son likes to golf, goes all the time. I asked him how he’d like a goat caddie, that we could always strap a bag on one of ours. He asked what kind of idiot could come up with such a stupid idea?

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                  • lovely says:

                    Hmm.. I wonder what would happen if someones service goat wanted to caddie and the caddie goat was offended and got its feelings hurt because it was cast aside for another goat?

                    Modern life is so complicated ! ๐Ÿ™„

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                  • michellc says:

                    You know someone with a pet goat or service goat will complain that they should be able to bring their goats.
                    Oh well, I guess they can turn the golf course into a goat park. lol

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                  • lovely says:

                    A goat park!! ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚ People are too crazy. That would be an interesting scene. A person and their service goat with a goat caddie ๐Ÿ˜œ. What if a service goat falls in love with a caddie goat? Too much possibly with this whole scenario.

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                  • michellc says:

                    Oh goodness I hope they don’t start bringing bucks and does because then the golfers are going to have a pee soaked billy rubbing on them. ๐Ÿ™‚

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    • czarowniczy says:

      OSHA’s EVERYWHERE nowadays.

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  7. auscitizenmom says:

    I am not a representative of IHOP and I only put this here because every time I see it I LOL. I think it is so funny, especially the line, “Ta Not.”

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  8. stella says:

    Written by a FB friend,Tom Lipscomb:

    Was ‘Cowardly’ Fla. Deputy Told to Wait for Backup?

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2018/02/26/was_cowardly_fla_deputy_told_to_wait_for_backup_136368.html

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  9. auscitizenmom says:

    I am reading Let Trump Be Trump. It may not be what you would call great literature, but it sure is interesting. It appears that Manafort is nothing but a con man who is pretty good at what he does. As soon as he took the job with the campaign, he requested a check for over $700,000 for some scheme. The guy that Trump had put in charge of the money didn’t give it to him and Manafort didn’t ask again. Corey had no idea what it was that he had intended to do with the money. Manafort also started leaking at the very beginning. That is where some of the strange stories involving him came from. I know a lot of us were puzzled. He convinced the Trump kids that Corey was the leaker and had his own agenda and that is why Corey got fired. I am a little concerned now about what Manafort might say about PTrump because he is such a liar.

    I read most of the book last night and had trouble putting it down. I am hoping there will be something in there about Keith since we don’t know what happened to him, but I think he left long after Corey.

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    • Lucille says:

      Since I’m too lazy to look it up…who wrote “Let Trump Be Trump”…Gingrich or? Does the book depend on anonymous sources or does it name the names of same?

      These types of exposes about President Trump, his campaign/Presidential decisions and actions, tweets, or previous life are unproductive regarding the task at hand of defeating the Left. Why put more stuff out there for people to hate on, get clicks for their cruddy websites, or to give Mueller a helping hand? It’s for the money, apparently.

      When you’re in a war, your side doesn’t trash your finest general and his decisions even if he’s a drunk or a guy who slaps his soldiers.

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      • auscitizenmom says:

        This was written by Corey Lewandowski and David Bossie. They are definitely not trashing Trump. They both still stupport him 100%. They give him the credit for winning the Presidency.

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        • Lucille says:

          Glad to hear it. Since it’s a pro-Trump book, is it allowed on the best seller lists?

          Liked by 1 person

          • auscitizenmom says:

            Well, it says it was a #1 on the Wall Street Journal Best Seller List. I don’t see it on whatever Amazon list there is.

            Liked by 1 person

            • stella says:

              Ranking is under Product Details on Amazon:

              Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #15,677 Paid in Kindle Store (See Top 100 Paid in Kindle Store)

              #10 in Kindle Store > Kindle eBooks > Nonfiction > Politics & Social Sciences > Politics & Government > Elections & Political Process > Campaigns & Elections
              #28 in Kindle Store > Kindle eBooks > Nonfiction > Politics & Social Sciences > Politics & Government > United States > Federal Government
              #30 in Kindle Store > Kindle eBooks > Nonfiction > Politics & Social Sciences > Politics & Government > Political Science

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            • stella says:

              Here’s the Amazon rankings for the hardcover version:

              Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #3,434 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)

              #11 in Books > Politics & Social Sciences > Politics & Government > Elections & Political Process > Elections
              #18 in Books > Politics & Social Sciences > Politics & Government > United States > National
              #20 in Books > Politics & Social Sciences > Politics & Government > United States > Executive Branch

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  10. Lucille says:

    Since my morning greeting hasn’t shown up..I’ll send another…this guy is likely recognizable…

    Liked by 4 people

  11. About the video:

    The video itself:

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  12. Wooly Covfefe says:

    Have some Bobby. My muse for 26 or so years.

    Liked by 2 people

  13. Lucille says:

    Very appealing photo even if you’re tired of the rain….

    Muskegon, Michigan Rainy Dayโ€ฆ.

    Liked by 5 people

    • Menagerie says:

      Since I moved to the woods, rainy days have become, if not one of my favorite things, a treat I certainly occasionally enjoy. Laying on the porch swing listening to the rain, or sitting on the back porch at the table with coffee and being eye level with the fog is good for my contentment level.

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  14. Lucille says:

    From the British health care system…

    Five-year-old girl died after GP turned her away for being five minutes late for appointment, inquest hears
    By Telegraph Reporters – 26 FEBRUARY 2018 โ€ข 4:17PM
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/02/26/five-year-old-girl-died-gp-turned-away-five-minutes-late-appointment/

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  15. Lburg says:

    I took this pic as the sun was coming up – the morning that the good Reverend Billy Graham passed away and before I saw the news of his death…

    There are no coincidences.

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  16. stella says:

    Seen on Facebook, and something to watch:

    Big Case today in SCOtuS–h/t:RSE: TODAY IN COURT: The Supreme Court will hear arguments today in a case that could shrink government-union coffers โ€” and political contributions from those unions, on which Democrats have long depended โ€” by as much as two-thirds. The case, Janus v. AFSCME, challenges the fees that government unions collect from union nonmembers to cover their share of collective bargaining costs. Plaintiff Mark Janus, an Illinois state worker who declined to join the American Federation of State, County, and Municipal Employees, argues that the payments he’s compelled to pay AFSCME violate his First Amendment rights. The facts of the case are near-identical to those in Friedrichs v. California Teachers Association , on which the high court deadlocked in 2016, following the death of Justice Antonin Scalia. The addition of Justice Neil Gorsuch is widely expected to give plaintiffs the fifth vote they need to outlaw the nonmember fees. That would be a serious blow to Democrats on the eve of a competitive midterm election campaign. Government unions account for about 6 percent of the money spent on Democratic candidates in federal elections โ€” and that doesn’t include the significant in-kind contributions these unions provide through such activities as phone banks, door-to-door leafleting, and driving voters to the polls on Election Day. โ€” POLITICO’s Andrew Hanna. Read more here.

    โ€” “The outcome could shake the foundations of public-sector union power across the nationโ€”especially in New York. About 73 percent of New York state and local government employeesโ€”roughly 1.2 million in all, including many professionals, mid-level managers and administratorsโ€”are covered by union contracts. That’s more than double the national average of 39 percent, and the highest percentage found in any state. New York government unions received at least $862 million withheld from worker paychecks in 2016, including $112 million in ‘agency fees’ from nearly 200,000 government employees who have chosen not to join unions. Government employers will have to stop withholding fees from these non-members if the court rules for Mark Janus …” โ€” Empire Center’s Kenneth Girardin. Read more here.

    โ€” Professional Staff Congress President Barbara Bowen: “Janus v. AFSCME is not an innocent First Amendment case; it is a calculated, well-funded attempt to dismantle everything the labor movement has wonโ€”for all working people, not just union members. It is an attack on women, on immigrants, on people of color, on the young, on workers everywhere.”

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  17. stella says:

    Transcript from Rush’s radio program today:

    How Obama and Holder Changed Broward County Law Enforcement for Racial Reasons

    https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2018/02/26/how-obama-and-holder-changed-broward-county-law-enforcement-for-racial-reasons/

    Now, not because of the change in the behavior of students, but because of a change in the philosophy of pursuing them. So now I turn to a little piece here from Conservative Treehouse. Thereโ€™s a writer at Conservative Treehouse that goes by the nom de plume of Sundance.

    So how is it that four armed cops remained outside the building and didnโ€™t do anything? How is that possible? Well, hereโ€™s what people donโ€™t understand. โ€œWhen the county education policy is intentionally constructed to ignore criminal behavior in schools, the sheriff and school superintendent cannot rely on โ€˜law-and-order-mindedโ€™ schoolโ€ resource officers to carry out the corrupt policy. Thatโ€™s what Peterson, the guy that was outside armed and didnโ€™t go in is called a school resource officer. And it is the contention here that these people are political appointees, not law enforcement specialists. And they are there to carry out and see to it that the political aspect of this equalizing jailhouse population policy is instituted.

    Itโ€™s a fascinating piece, but the primary assertion here is that in order to obtain money from the federal government and programs that were instituted by Obama and Eric Holder, local governments were rewarded with these grants if they kept school arrests down. Letโ€™s stop the pipeline from schools to prison. Right here in this 2013 story, โ€œReversing Broward Countyโ€™s School-to-Prison Pipeline.โ€

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  18. I wish that I could program a virus, a bot. One that would scour the entire internet and find every single meme or joke about Chuck Norris and replace his name with “Billy Graham”. Not even death can stop Billy Graham from working. Chuck Norris looks under his bed at night for Billy Graham. Chuck Norris wears Billy Graham Underoosโ„ข.

    “Yeah, Billy, see… I know you’re dead and all, but you’re on the schedule today.” — God.

    Billy didn’t have a doctor’s note, so he punched in again today, and is on the clock.

    Death is not a valid excuse for not working.

    And I bet Chuck Norris would agree with me.

    Liked by 2 people

    • If you’re not in the know, the Chuck Norris jokes and memes over the last couple of decades online all refer to how unbelievably bad-a&& Chuck Norris is. It’s really funny stuff, and it evolved organically, and Chuck himself is kind of embarrassed by it all, despite how funny the memes and jokes are. Because he’s humble. And I would bet my last dollar than Chuck thinks Billy is far more bad-a&& than he is. I bet Chuck Norris would deign to shine Billy Graham’s shoes, thankfully.

      Billy is badder than Chuck. Proof? Billy’s dead. And still working.

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  19. auscitizenmom says:

    lilbirdee12โ€™s prayer:

    Our Heavenly Father, Your children come to you tonight to ask for healing and peace throughout our country so that we may return to being One Nation Under God. Guide us to be leaders in Your Kingdom, spreading Your Love and Salvation to all. Forgive us our sins and deliver us from evil.

    Lord, we ask for a blanket of protection over all our troops and law enforcement who serve to defend and protect us. Bless our representatives with the strength and wisdom they need to achieve the path You have chosen for us.

    Please place Your Guardian Angels of Protection around Donald Trump and Mike Pence and their families as they seek to lead America back to You.

    Grant us patience, Lord, as the evil ones try to anger us and cause us to fall.
    Spread blessings over Israel and Netanyahu.

    We humbly ask that You please comfort those who are grieving and in pain.
    Thank you Father, for Your Love and the gift of Life.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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