General Discussion, Wednesday, December 6, 2017

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  1. Lucille says:

    Snoopy sends his greetings to the Stellars….

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  2. ZurichMike says:

    Happy St. Nicholas Day! The feast day of *the* St. Nicklaus ==> Saint (ni)Cklaus ==> Santa Claus. Lot of traditions about this beloved saint around many European countries:

    The Swiss tradition: Saint Nicholas in a bishop’s robes with staff and miter and accompanied by “Schmutzli” (the little dirty/dusty/coaldust covered guy) and “Esel” (someone with a costume of long donkey ears and a cap) walk the streets of the village dispensing treats to good children (Saint Nicholas’s job) and stern warnings (Schmutzli’s job) to children needing to be steered on the path of goodness. Heralding this trio are Trychler — strong men with wooden yokes and carrying gigantic cowbells and the path illuminated by others carrying enormous lanterns that look like stained glass (IIfelen) and still others cracking whips in the air (GeisselchlΓΆpfer). It is quite the spectacle. My 62 year-old partner still melts back into a wide-eyed 5 year-old when he sees the procession coming down the darkened street (which happened last night on the eve of St. Nicholas) It does give you goosebumps!

    Saint Nicholas is the patron saint of children. Ask him to join his prayers to yours for the well-being of your children or for children you know — of whatever age!

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  3. Lucille says:

    Ran across this rather odd video called “Does It Snow In Iran?” when I was looking up the weather in Tehran. Western music is played in the background and no scenes of turmoil are found. It’s almost as if it’s presented by someone who dreamily remembers what Iran was like before jihadi doctrine closed in around them.

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    • Lucille says:

      Tehran street scene…

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      • Lucille says:

        I sometimes think of the young Iranian men I went to college with in 1960. They were sent to the States by the Shah’s government, but they all hated him. Strange that.

        You’ll recall the revolution happened toward the end of the Carter Administration. So I wonder if these educated men became a part of the overthrow, or whether 19 years after they took advantage of the Shah’s largess whether they fled with their families to America to form the Persian Diaspora.

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        • czarowniczy says:

          We’d regularly run into Iranians who hated the Shah but hated the replacement even more so. To put it into a more localized perspective think how we’d have felt had Hillary won…

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          • Menagerie says:

            I took a mechanical drawing class in college in prehistoric, pre CAD days. There were a number of young men from Iran and Iraq. We were taught basic lettering at the beginning of class. Remember those old drawings with classic, almost perfect lettering, yet it was done by hand?

            Anyhow, the old instructor was most unhappy with the sloppiness of the work done by these young men on their lettering. They replied that they only needed to learn to draw, they would be returning to their homes and not ever writing in English. He responded that they were attending school in America and would be graded entirely on their ability to meet his American standards for both drawing and writing in English.

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            • czarowniczy says:

              Y’all jed done brought back memories. I still have one of the old Leroy lettering sets with multiple font sticks. Used to use it to prepare charts and even overheads for briefings.

            • lovely says:

              My Law professor once had a chap give a speech and the chap kept saying “Ja bone” in his speech.

              The copy of the speech being held by the professor read “Job One”.

              The professor failed him on his speech because of his lazy enunciation.

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              • Menagerie says:

                The little church where I sometimes go to daily mass has a new Vietnamese priest. He says Jejus, and can be a little hard to understand at times, but I’m getting better at it.

                He is extremely reverent, and seems more involved than the prior priest. I like him, and his enthusiasm and love.

                I am not sure how long he has been in America, but I don’t think it has been very long.

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                • lovely says:

                  Our Spanish Priest has a slight accent. He is a wonderful priest, the most passionate in my opinion and the most in tune with his parishioners and in love with Christ.

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                  • Wooly Covfefe says:

                    My favorite Christian apologist and debater is Ravi Zacharias.

                    His Indian Engish accent is impeccable, and quite distinct. If I heard him at a table having a conversation, in a restaurant, I would immediately know that it was Ravi talking.

                    If I had Siri or Cortana, I wish I could make it speak exactly like that.

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  4. ImpeachEmAll says:

    socialists being socialists… πŸ˜‰

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    • ImpeachEmAll says:

      and that’s not all… πŸ˜‰

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    • lovely says:

      Meryl Streep will be part of the impending “Great Liberal Cat Fight” that is to come. They are becoming each others enemies. Just wait for it.

      Liberals only know how to destroy their enemies. Watching the left eat its own is going to be delicious.

      Embattled Dem lawmaker claims Pelosi knew about sexual harassment accusations last year

      I suspect the liberal v liberal war will be much like the savage Islamist v savage Islamist war. Former President of Yemen Ali Abdullah Saleh and his forces had been aligned with the Houthi rebels for years, up until a week ago they were bonded alliances. This week the Houthi put a 3 inch by 4 inch pie shaped hole in the head of Abdullah Saleh. (Well at least the Houthi are taking credit for it πŸ˜‰).

      Hollywood liberals and savage Muslims have much in common.

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  5. Lucille says:

    1930s hairstyles

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  6. Lucille says:

    Trekkers and Train in the snow

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  7. nyetneetot says:

    Mornin’ stella! (Smiter of those that ought to be smote) 😎 🍸 (Long Island Iced Tea)
    Mornin’ WeeWeed! (Master Mixologist Extrodinare) 😎 🍸 (Old Fashioned)
    Mornin’ Menagerie! 😎 |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| (Jack Daniels – Single Barrel )
    Mornin’ Ad rem! (Queen Felis catus) 🐱 🍸 (Flaming Lamborghini)
    Mornin’ Sharon! 😎 🍸 🍸 (earthquake)
    Mornin’ ytz4mee! 😎 🍸 (cosmopolitan)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (white wine and perrier)
    Mornin’ partyzantski! πŸ™‚ |_| (Tom Collins)
    Mornin’ texan59! πŸ™‚ |_| (Black & Tan)
    Mornin’ ZurichMike! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (fuzzy navel)
    Mornin’ Col.(R) Ken! (hand salute) πŸ™‚ |_| (Boilermaker)
    Mornin’ czarina33! (aka czarina) πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Lynchburg Lemonade)
    Mornin’ czarowniczy! πŸ™‚ |_| (Wild Turkey Rare Breed)
    Mornin’ letjusticeprevail2014! πŸ™‚ |_| (Irish Car Bomb)
    Mornin’ Patriot1783-ctdar! (aka “ctdar”) πŸ™‚ 🍸 (grasshopper)
    Mornin’ tessa50! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (flaming volcano)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (sidecar)
    Mornin’ varsityward! πŸ™‚ |_| (Godfather)
    Mornin’ MaryfromMarin! πŸ˜€ |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| (Mortlach)
    Mornin’ Wooly Covfefe! (aka “Wooly Phlox” aka “taqiyyologist”) πŸ™‚ |_| (Roy Rogers)
    Mornin’ Howie! (aka “doodahdaze”) πŸ™‚ |_| (Classic Daiquiri)
    Mornin’ TwoLaine! πŸ™‚ |_| (Gin & Tonic)
    Mornin’ Sha! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Lemon Drop)
    Mornin’ BigMamaTEA! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Harvey Wallbanger)
    Mornin’ cetera5! (aka “Cetera”) πŸ™‚ |_| (Blackberry wine)
    Mornin’ The Tundra PA! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Gentleman Jack Whiskey Sling)
    Mornin’ lovely! πŸ™‚ |_| (Backdraft)
    Mornin’ michellc! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Salty dog)
    Mornin’ auscitizenmom! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Kiss on the Lips)
    Mornin’ Margaret-Ann! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (White Russian)
    Mornin’ Auntie Lib! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Tom and Jerry)
    Mornin’ holly100! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Jack & Coke)
    Mornin’ Pam! πŸ™‚ (Not even water)
    Mornin’ Ms.Tee! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Mojito)
    Mornin’ koolkosherkitchen! πŸ™‚ 🍸 🍸 (Cuba Libre)
    Mornin’ ImpeachEmAll πŸ™‚ |_| (Flaming Dr. Pepper)
    Mornin’ Monroe! πŸ™‚ |_| (Stinger)
    Mornin’ Les! πŸ™‚ |_| (Rusty Nail)
    Mornin’ shiloh1973! πŸ™‚ |_| (Jack Daniels)
    Mornin’ TexasRanger! πŸ™‚ |_| (Whiskey Smash)
    Mornin’ Ziiggii! πŸ™‚ |_| (B52)
    Mornin’ oldiadguy! πŸ™‚ |_| (Rum & Coke)
    Mornin’ smiley! (“stuck in spambucket”) πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Spanish coffee)
    Mornin’ derk! (β€œStellars”) πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Kamikaze)
    Mornin’ Jacqueline Taylor Robson πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Shirley Temple)
    Mornin’ facebkwallflower! πŸ™‚ |_| (Night Train Express)
    Mornin’ Ms. Cindy! (aka “Ms Cynlynn” aka “ms cynlynn”) πŸ™‚ 🍸 (1970 ducru beaucaillou)
    Mornin’ sandandsea2015! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (1961 ChΓ’teau Montrose)
    Mornin’ amwick! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Blue motorcycle)
    Mornin’ hocuspocus13! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (1970 Chateau Latour)
    Mornin’ Sloth1963! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (1971 Moulin Touchais)
    Mornin’ MTeresa! (Ex-lurker) πŸ™‚ |_| (Albanian Raki Moskat)
    Mornin’ Rhea Salacia Volans! πŸ™‚ |_| (Hot Buttered Rum)
    Mornin’ joshua! πŸ™‚ |_| (Mudslide)
    Mornin’ John Denney! πŸ™‚ |_| (RumChata)
    Mornin’ litenmaus! πŸ™‚ |_| (Stolichnaya elit, no ice)
    Mornin’ kinthenorthwest! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (A Lonely Island Lost in the Middle of a Foggy Sea)
    Mornin’ TwoLaine! πŸ™‚ |_| (Smoking Bishop)
    Mornin’ patternpuzzler! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Old Lady)
    Mornin’ SenatssekretΓ€r FREISTAAT DANZIG! πŸ™‚ |_| (Red Russian)
    Mornin’ G-d&Country! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Blind Russian)
    Mornin’ Gary! πŸ™‚ |_| (Yuengling)
    Mornin’ valeriecurren! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Flaming Sambuca)
    Mornin’ Lucille! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Peach Schnapps)
    Mornin’ Lburg! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Lburg lemonade)
    Mornin’ davidhuntpe! πŸ™‚ |_| (Baileys Irish Cream on the rocks)
    Mornin’ skipper1961! πŸ™‚ |_| (Brompton’s Cocktail – No cherry, no umbrella, no plastic monkey)
    Mornin’ mightyconservative! πŸ™‚ |_| (Benjamin Franklin’s clarified milk punch)
    Mornin’ whiners and complainers! πŸ˜› (No drink for you!)
    Mornin’ to people posting that I missed. 😳
    Mornin’ to all you lurkers! πŸ˜•

    Also just in case someday; mornin’ to Elvis Chupacabra, F.D.R. in Hell and sundance! :mrgreen:


    NEW and IMPROVED breakfast with extra bacon for ZurichMike!

    Christmas Donuts

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  8. Wooly, I like what I am reading about the Brave browser. But I couldn’t find anything about RAM use on the site you linked to yesterday. Any suggestions on where I could find that? (It may be on the website and I just didn’t see it.)

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    • Wooly Covfefe says:

      Hmm. Brave on my PC is currently using 1,174 MB of RAM, according to the Task Manager. I have four tabs open, and Shields turned off here, so this tab is using 14 processes. Probably ads and ad-trackers and such. I don’t turn them off here, because Stella.

      The thing works. Mostly. And I don’t know if add-ons or extensions are a thing for this. I used to use nice maple wood themes on Firefox, lots of plugins and NoScript, of course.

      Brave just works. So I’ve never looked.

      Criminy! Just try it!


      • Wooly Covfefe says:

        I’ve got 24 GB of DDR3, so I’m not too concerned about RAM usage, but Shields in Brave is important if you are. As I said, I’ve got 14 processes running on this site only, and Shields off on news sites like Guardian, Daily Mail, LA Times, etc. All those processes are the videos that autoplay and the pop-up ads and the trackers, the Javascript ads…

        …and they all take up RAM.

        Brave also remembers (if you wish) which sites you’ve put Shields up and down on, and you can customize Shields for each site.

        If you try it, and don’t like it, you can uninstall it. Also you can import all your bookmarks and favorites from your other browsers.

        When you block everything, the site owner gets no money for ad-views. So I block nothing on this site, or CTH, or AoSHQ, or Vox Day, but everything most other places. Any site with a slew of “One Weird Trick” ads, or “You’ll CRAP YOURSELF when you see THIS picture’s hidden secret!” with a picture and a red circle and a big red arrow on some innocuous part of the picture — BLOCK EVERYTHING. And it’s just one button on the top-right of the browser. For each tab.

        I’ve heard wonderful things about the new Firefox, like it’s 3x faster, but I just don’t like those people, and there are other options.


  9. WeeWeed says:

    Mornin’ y’all!

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  10. stella says:

    Really interesting. Rush’s forecasts what will happen. Rush Limbaugh Podcast 11/9/16 | Donald Trump Wins Election

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  11. derk says:

    Morning Stella, crew,
    The dog pic is one of your best.

    Have a great day y’all, Stellar onward!

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  12. Sharon says:

    Stella, the photo above – silhouetted train w/morning (I prefer to believe!) clouds is stunning.

    Apparently it’s not a steam engine, but the overall presentation brings to mind a singular photo my Dad took about 4 o’clock one morning on the North Dakota prairie.

    We were en route home – b ringing me home from Dakota Lutheran Academy in Minot, about 180 miles from our farm. (A Lutheran [Lutherans back then were Biblical] boarding school). I suppose I was about 16. As we headed west from Minot on at-that-time-two-lane highway 2, about 70-80 miles out, Dad got sleepy.

    He pulled into a short road spur that abutted the railroad to sleep before we headed on to eastern Montana, to get home in time to milk the cows. So around 4, suddenly: the approaching, swinging headlight over the prairie, the chooof-choooof of big entines, and steam rising in the early morning light.

    Dad jumped out of the car with his ever-present 35mm slide camera and got the most wonderful photograph of that steam engine.

    Oh, my. The sounds and the sights made my day then, and still do.

    I believe I actually have that slide someone, as I was handed, along with so many other precious treasures, a large container of his essential slides from the 1950s, some years ago.

    Right now one of the Christmas gifts I’m working on for my grandson (to be replicated for all the grandchildren) is copies of many, many, many family treasures of writing and essays, from my work and others in the families, and things just now being organized that are new family research since MBOB was published.

    Included in this initial collection (which is now over 300 pages) are the essays also from the Treehouse which didn’t make it into the book.

    I’m excited about this new collection of heritage records. There’s a whole ‘nother book in it which would include stuff from the Torgersons going back to the early mid-1800s. That will have to be someone else’s book – but there is a whole ‘nother book there.

    My grandson who is receiving this is HIGH on family stories and traditions of all kinds, so it’s a delight to do that work for him.

    His sister is receiving the little sterling silver bridal charm that her Grandpa Grant gave me as a bridal gift the day of our August 1965 wedding in Minneapolis. All I did was have the date of that wedding engraved in tiny font on the back. Other than that engraving, all my Christmas gifts this year are $-free. Yea! Labor intensive but cost free.

    Younger son (their dad) has already given me the gift of firewood this year, as he and his brother did last year.

    Grant was right: it’s all good.

    And my woods friends here bless me – – –

    Woolly – you got me wheels turning toward Psalm 104 in one of your comments the other day (Re Psalm 46:1) – – so I re-read Psalm 104 this morning. THAT is good, good stuff. Thank you.

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    • stella says:

      Thanks for sharing that, Sharon! I’m dedicating the dailies this week to trains. I love them too. The one at the top is a coal train against the (rising) sun (or setting, as you prefer).

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    • stella says:

      I did a little digging and found the source for the header photo.


      In this amazing capture by Tom Danneman (MRL 390 on Flickr), we see a northbound BNSF coal train heading across a fill just south of Bill, Wyoming. Danneman says the Powder River Basin where this was taken is a beautiful location for sunsets.

      The Powder River Basin is a geologic region in southeast Montana and northeast Wyoming, about 120 miles (190 km) east to west and 200 miles (320 km) north to south, known for its coal deposits. The region supplies about 40 percent of coal in the United States.

      It is the single largest source of coal mined in the United States, and contains one of the largest deposits of coal in the world. Most of the active coal mining in the Powder River Basin actually takes place in drainages of the Cheyenne River. Because of the Powder River Basin, Wyoming has been the top coal-producing state in the United States since 1988. In 2007, the Powder River Basin alone produced 436 million short tons (396 million tonnes) of coal, more than twice the production of second-place West Virginia, and more than the entire Appalachian region.

      Sliver of orange

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      • czarina33 says:

        When I lived in Ogden, UT, my friends drove to Heber, UT to show me one of the interesting, small, old towns. The ONLY thing I recall about it was that the road was a ledge hanging off over a steep drop straight down, & there was gravel on the road like marbles to roll the car off the edge. There was no guardrail.

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    • Wooly Covfefe says:

      Oh, if you could get us that train picture!

      You can go to kiosks at Wal-Mart and have it made digital and put on a thumb drive, export to your PC, send to us via some internet photo storage site. Easy-peasy! πŸ˜€ (Grr. should be easier in Current Year.)

      Yes. Psalms is one of the best things ever written. ✝

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  13. Lucille says:

    Love this sweet PHOTO OF THE DAY

    President Donald J. Trump meets with American business owners and their families | December 5, 2017 (Official White House Photo by Shealah Craighead)

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  14. John Denney says:

    Regarding the Christian baker’s case before the Supreme Court, a friend made an interesting point at lunch today.
    If a straight person were to go into a Christian bakery and ask for a wedding cake for a same-sex marriage, and was refused, could the straight person say he was discriminated against?
    The point being that the baker was not discriminating against a person, but against an event.
    An event is not a protected class of persons.

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  15. stella says:

    Tweet from my cousin in LA:

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    • Lucille says:

      How horrible! So very close to where hundreds of thousands live in apartments and condos and houses. Lots of wild animals in those hills, too.

      LAFD is supremely competent but this one is just going to burn for days even with aircraft dropping retardant and water. Just awful!

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    • czarina33 says:

      Look at Wildfire Today magazine dated 5/2/2012 for related story.

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  16. czarowniczy says:

    Weatherguessers are saying we may see snow flurries on Friday if a predicted low gets far enough into the Gulf.

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  17. Love this photo of FLOTUS and Karen Pence! Whataburger is as Texan as it gets!!!! 😊

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  18. auscitizenmom says:

    My friend and I went to see Wonder today. Absolutely loved it! I enjoyed every minute. It was very sweet, not maudlin. It is about a young boy who was born with severe facial deformities, who has had many surgeries, and has been homeschooled by his mother until he is ready for middle school. One interesting thing is that they show why some of the characters did the things they did through their own eyes. And, there were some really interesting characters in it.

    I am not a huge fan of Julia Roberts, who plays the mother, but she was great in this. I am a fan of Owen Wilson and I thought he was perfect as the father. Young Jacob Trembley was very good as Auggie, an amazing child like so many who have problems are.

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  19. auscitizenmom says:

    lilbirdee12’s prayer:

    Our Heavenly Father, Your children come to you tonight to ask for healing and peace throughout our country so that we may return to being One Nation Under God. Guide us to be leaders in Your Kingdom, spreading Your Love and Salvation to all. Forgive us our sins and deliver us from evil.

    Lord, we ask for a blanket of protection over all our troops and law enforcement who serve to defend and protect us. Bless our representatives with the strength and wisdom they need to achieve the path You have chosen for us.

    Please place Your Guardian Angels of Protection around Donald Trump and Mike Pence and their families as they seek to lead America back to You.

    Grant us patience, Lord, as the evil ones try to anger us and cause us to fall.
    Spread blessings over Israel and Netanyahu.

    We humbly ask that You please comfort those who are grieving and in pain.
    Thank you Father, for Your Love and the gift of Life.

    And, Lord, if it is your will, we pray that Judge Roy Moore will win his bid for the Senate.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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