General Discussion, Tuesday, November 28, 2017

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  1. Lucille says:

    From “West Wing Reads” 11-27-17:

    In The Weekly Standard, Shannen Coffin argues that President Trump has the law on his side with his appointment of Mick Mulvaney as Acting Director of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. The Department of Justice’s Office of Legal Counsel “publicly released an opinion supporting the president’s designation,” writes Coffin, and that office “has long taken the position that the president can designate an acting official under the Vacancies Reform Act.”
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    Nine prominent economics experts wrote a letter to Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin published in The Wall Street Journal explaining why both the House and the Senate tax reform bills are “pro-growth.” Both bills would spur the investment and economic activity ultimately needed to drive down the cost of reform. A Wall Street Journal editorial citing the letter agrees on that point: “A mere four years of 3 percent growth – the U.S. historical norm – could fill a $1 trillion hole.”
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    Investor’s Business Daily says President Trump’s trip to Asia was a success, especially on the issue of trade. China announced on Thanksgiving that it has decided to “slash import taxes on some 187 consumer goods,” the editorial board explains.
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    Writing in Fox News, Chuck DeVore thinks President Trump’s “most significant contribution to a more prosperous America is also his least understood: his assault on the administrative state.” Only four times since 1960 has the tide of liberty managed to roll back government power. Should the President prevail, writes DeVore, the decade of growth that follows would almost certainly be unprecedented.

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  2. Lucille says:

    Thankful this Tuesday for trees, rainbows and water…

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  3. czarowniczy says:

    Eventually…eventually…most of our leafed trees are still green, though there are some spots are brown. Maples and cyprus should have dropped their clothes by now and the oaks, which drop a few months from now, still look a lot like August. Then again that ain’t such a bad thing.

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  4. Lucille says:

    White privilege raises its ugly head…ca. 1910….


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    • ImpeachEmAll says:

      Sing it one time;
      for old times… 😉

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    • auscitizenmom says:

      Those poor black children having to pick cotton. Oh, wait, were they out in the sun so long they got bleached out? 😯

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    • joshua says:

      My wife’s mother picked cotton in Texas in the 1920s….heck, everyone was POOR…it wasn’t skin color or the KKK that made kids have to work…it was the only way to EAT….

      And those white kids actually grew up and got real jobs when the nation’s economy could use them….and when they actually got some school education….they LEARNED while they were not working…usually at night with a kerosene lamp.

      White privilege is a liberal construct by folks that are educated beyond their intelligence.

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      • stella says:

        Of course, there is a difference between doing something willingly to feed yourself, and being forced to do it as a slave. Otherwise, I agree with you.

        By the way, not all white kids went to school or got a job. Plenty of “poor white trash” as my daddy used to say (and infuriate my mother).

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        • joshua says:

          Appalachia is full of them….and a lot of rural areas with little law enforcement.

          Grew up not far from a rent house shack filled with some of them..their little kids taught my brother really bad language, so mother would not let us play with them, but she sent them home with a sandwich and a fresh bar of soap.

          My grandmother taught a one room rural schoolhouse in East Texas, and the kids came when they could and as long as they could. Because agriculture was the only money crop for families with no money, and the harvest was mostly summer, that is why school originally had a “summer break” from class….the kids were working the fields with their entire family.

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    • stella says:

      My mother picked tobacco in Canada in the 1930’s.

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      • joshua says:

        Eddie Ramirez, 15, outside his mobile home in Snow Hill, N.C. He’s been working in tobacco fields during the summer for several years.
        Will Michaels for NPR

        Kids under 18 can’t buy cigarettes in the U.S., but they can legally work in tobacco fields when they’re as young as 12.

        One of those kids is Eddie Ramirez, 15, who works the fields in the summer.

        “It just sticks to my hand,” he says of the plant. “It’s really sticky, you know, and really yellow.” It’s nearly impossible to wash off, he says.

        A new report from Human Rights Watch says the practice of children farming tobacco is hazardous and should be stopped. The group interviewed more than 140 kids in 2012 and 2013, including Eddie, who work on tobacco farms in the South.

        From the sparse mobile home he shares with his mother in Snow Hill, N.C., Eddie describes feeling lightheaded and queasy after a 12-hour day in the tobacco fields.

        In the mornings, tobacco is wet because of the dew and, like, the rows are narrow and the tobacco is really big. You just feel like you’re suffocating or can’t breathe really well.

        “In the mornings, tobacco is wet because of the dew and, like, the rows are narrow and the tobacco is really big. You just feel like you’re suffocating or can’t breathe really well,” he says. “You just want to stop and not do it no more.”

        Eddie, who’s in the eighth grade, is hired by contractors who provide labor to growers in the area. His family came here from Honduras when he was 7. By the time he was 12, Eddie says, he had started working in the fields alongside his mother to help make ends meet.

        “We found that the overwhelming majority of kids we interviewed got sick while they were working in tobacco fields with nausea, headaches, dizziness, lightheadedness,” says Human Rights Watch researcher Margaret Wurth. “And many of the symptoms they reported are consistent with acute nicotine poisoning, which happens when workers absorb nicotine through their skin.”

        No one tracks how many kids work on tobacco farms, so there’s no way to know how common or widespread the practice is. But Human Rights Watch argues that it’s too hazardous and should be illegal.

        Matt Myers, president of the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids, says the report points out a gaping hole in U.S. labor law.

        “It’s outrageous that in 2014, children are still working in tobacco farms. It is well-known how dangerous exposure both to nicotine and to the many pesticides used on tobacco is to kids,” Myers says.

        Congress has resisted changing farm labor laws, and the Labor Department withdrew proposed stricter standards for kids in 2012 under political pressure. Human Rights Watch is now calling on major tobacco companies to get kids out of the fields.

        The report notes that tobacco giant Philip Morris International has the most comprehensive child labor policy — but that it doesn’t go far enough.

        Miguel Coleta, director of external labor policies at PMI, says the child labor abuses outlined by Human Rights Watch violate company guidelines.

        “If children are doing hazardous work, that has to stop,” Coleta says.

        But Coleta says there are roles for kids younger than 18 on farms, under the right conditions. For example, he says, “ensuring that whatever children are doing on the farm is appropriate to their age and is not something that is undermining their health or their future.”

        Top U.S. cigarette makers, including Altria and R.J. Reynolds, say they require growers to protect young workers. Altria spokesman Jeff Caldwell says there are some jobs kids can perform safely.

        “The Human Rights Watch recommendations to prohibit youth of any age from handling or coming into contact with tobacco is counter to a lot of farming practices that currently take place in the U.S.,” Caldwell says.

        In North Carolina, 15-year-old Eddie Ramirez is hopeful the newfound attention to his summer job will bring changes like safety gear and places to use the restroom.

        THIS IS WHY THEY WANT IMMIGRANTS AND AMNESTY….not because of the poor innocent folks that came for a BETTER life. Folks…reality is a kick in the pants….Nancy Pelosi should pick tobacco for awhile….

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        • Jacqueline Taylor Robson says:

          We had a tobacco farm in Kentucky. We didn’t use any pesticides, but spent hours in the hot field searching for these.

          Horned Tobacco Worms! As a 12 yo girl, I was scared of them, but had to pick them off and kill them. It was a lot of hard work, but the tobacco was auctioned off just before Christmas, and we all got a share of the money.

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    • joshua says:

      These kids are doing what is called Bolling…they are Bollies….picking the last reminent of cotton that was missed during the big cotton picking earlier, or a machine picker….this was the hardest, as the bolls were tight in a hard crusted shell that cut your hands…notice the lack of shoes…walking on hard and hot ground….tough to feel a lot of pity for welfare mommas and rappers and professional black athletes who never experienced hard hot dirty WORK.

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    • czarina33 says:

      My mother’s family (11children) worked on the family farm in the teens-40’s in Oklahoma. Grampa grew sorghum, cotton & had dairy cows & the kids picked, weeded, etc. Mama said they never wore shoes in the summer (too expensive) & had to pick cotton to pay for their school clothes. It was just a fact of life. She said the year she was in the 3rd grade she only had a slip to wear all year, no dresses; that would have been 1929 or 30. Read &studied by the single light bulb in the kitchen. Every one of the children went on to get a college degree & lived a productive life, most lived into their 80’s.

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  5. ImpeachEmAll says:

    socialists being socialists… 😉

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  6. Lucille says:

    They Thought She Was Crazy But Pregnancy Center Director Receives an Amazing Blessing to Save More Babies
    By Karen Ingle – November 27, 2017 – SPRING HILL, TN
    http://www.lifenews.com/2017/11/27/they-thought-she-was-crazy-but-pregnancy-center-director-receives-an-amazing-blessing-to-save-more-babies/

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  7. nyetneetot says:

    Mornin’ stella! (Smiter of those that ought to be smote) 😎 🍸 (Long Island Iced Tea)
    Mornin’ WeeWeed! (Master Mixologist Extrodinare) 😎 🍸 (Old Fashioned)
    Mornin’ Menagerie! 😎 |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| (Jack Daniels – Single Barrel )
    Mornin’ Ad rem! (Queen Felis catus) 🐱 🍸 (Flaming Lamborghini)
    Mornin’ Sharon! 😎 🍸 🍸 (earthquake)
    Mornin’ ytz4mee! 😎 🍸 (cosmopolitan)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! 🙂 🍸 (white wine and perrier)
    Mornin’ partyzantski! 🙂 |_| (Tom Collins)
    Mornin’ texan59! 🙂 |_| (Black & Tan)
    Mornin’ ZurichMike! 🙂 🍸 (fuzzy navel)
    Mornin’ Col.(R) Ken! (hand salute) 🙂 |_| (Boilermaker)
    Mornin’ czarina33! (aka czarina) 🙂 🍸 (Lynchburg Lemonade)
    Mornin’ czarowniczy! 🙂 |_| (Wild Turkey Rare Breed)
    Mornin’ letjusticeprevail2014! 🙂 |_| (Irish Car Bomb)
    Mornin’ Patriot1783-ctdar! (aka “ctdar”) 🙂 🍸 (grasshopper)
    Mornin’ tessa50! 🙂 🍸 (flaming volcano)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! 🙂 🍸 (sidecar)
    Mornin’ varsityward! 🙂 |_| (Godfather)
    Mornin’ MaryfromMarin! 😀 |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| (Mortlach)
    Mornin’ Wooly Covfefe! (aka “Wooly Phlox” aka “taqiyyologist”) 🙂 |_| (Roy Rogers)
    Mornin’ Howie! (aka “doodahdaze”) 🙂 |_| (Classic Daiquiri)
    Mornin’ TwoLaine! 🙂 |_| (Gin & Tonic)
    Mornin’ Sha! 🙂 🍸 (Lemon Drop)
    Mornin’ BigMamaTEA! 🙂 🍸 (Harvey Wallbanger)
    Mornin’ cetera5! (aka “Cetera”) 🙂 |_| (Blackberry wine)
    Mornin’ The Tundra PA! 🙂 🍸 (Gentleman Jack Whiskey Sling)
    Mornin’ lovely! 🙂 |_| (Backdraft)
    Mornin’ michellc! 🙂 🍸 (Salty dog)
    Mornin’ auscitizenmom! 🙂 🍸 (Kiss on the Lips)
    Mornin’ Margaret-Ann! 🙂 🍸 (White Russian)
    Mornin’ Auntie Lib! 🙂 🍸 (Tom and Jerry)
    Mornin’ holly100! 🙂 🍸 (Jack & Coke)
    Mornin’ Pam! 🙂 (Not even water)
    Mornin’ Ms.Tee! 🙂 🍸 (Mojito)
    Mornin’ koolkosherkitchen! 🙂 🍸 🍸 (Cuba Libre)
    Mornin’ ImpeachEmAll 🙂 |_| (Flaming Dr. Pepper)
    Mornin’ Monroe! 🙂 |_| (Stinger)
    Mornin’ Les! 🙂 |_| (Rusty Nail)
    Mornin’ shiloh1973! 🙂 |_| (Jack Daniels)
    Mornin’ TexasRanger! 🙂 |_| (Whiskey Smash)
    Mornin’ Ziiggii! 🙂 |_| (B52)
    Mornin’ oldiadguy! 🙂 |_| (Rum & Coke)
    Mornin’ smiley! (“stuck in spambucket”) 🙂 🍸 (Spanish coffee)
    Mornin’ derk! (“Stellars”) 🙂 🍸 (Kamikaze)
    Mornin’ Jacqueline Taylor Robson 🙂 🍸 (Shirley Temple)
    Mornin’ facebkwallflower! 🙂 |_| (Night Train Express)
    Mornin’ Ms. Cindy! (aka “Ms Cynlynn” aka “ms cynlynn”) 🙂 🍸 (1970 ducru beaucaillou)
    Mornin’ sandandsea2015! 🙂 🍸 (1961 Château Montrose)
    Mornin’ amwick! 🙂 🍸 (Blue motorcycle)
    Mornin’ hocuspocus13! 🙂 🍸 (1970 Chateau Latour)
    Mornin’ Sloth1963! 🙂 🍸 (1971 Moulin Touchais)
    Mornin’ MTeresa! (Ex-lurker) 🙂 |_| (Albanian Raki Moskat)
    Mornin’ Rhea Salacia Volans! 🙂 |_| (Hot Buttered Rum)
    Mornin’ joshua! 🙂 |_| (Mudslide)
    Mornin’ John Denney! 🙂 |_| (RumChata)
    Mornin’ litenmaus! 🙂 |_| (Stolichnaya elit, no ice)
    Mornin’ kinthenorthwest! 🙂 🍸 (A Lonely Island Lost in the Middle of a Foggy Sea)
    Mornin’ TwoLaine! 🙂 |_| (Smoking Bishop)
    Mornin’ patternpuzzler! 🙂 🍸 (Old Lady)
    Mornin’ Senatssekretär FREISTAAT DANZIG! 🙂 |_| (Red Russian)
    Mornin’ G-d&Country! 🙂 🍸 (Blind Russian)
    Mornin’ Gary! 🙂 |_| (Yuengling)
    Mornin’ valeriecurren! 🙂 🍸 (Flaming Sambuca)
    Mornin’ Lucille! 🙂 🍸 (Peach Schnapps)
    Mornin’ Lburg! 🙂 🍸 (Lburg lemonade)
    Mornin’ davidhuntpe! 🙂 |_| (Baileys Irish Cream on the rocks)
    Mornin’ skipper1961! 🙂 |_| (Brompton’s Cocktail – No cherry, no umbrella, no plastic monkey)
    Mornin’ mightyconservative! 🙂 |_| (Benjamin Franklin’s clarified milk punch)
    Mornin’ whiners and complainers! 😛 (No drink for you!)
    Mornin’ to people posting that I missed. 😳
    Mornin’ to all you lurkers! 😕

    Also just in case someday; mornin’ to Elvis Chupacabra, F.D.R. in Hell and sundance! :mrgreen:

    Breakfast!

    NEW and IMPROVED breakfast with extra bacon for ZurichMike!

    Cinnamon rolls for coffee!

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  8. Czar I went back and read yesterday’s thread. Thanks for sharing about your Mom and her family.

    When I started researching my writing project, I learned pretty quickly that history is not a simple black and white question of which group is right and which is (which I should have known already but I hadn’t really paid attention to in the past. There is a difference between reading history and researching history.) During my research I had begun to wonder if WWII would have been avoidable if the ending of the Great War had been different. If Germany hadn’t been struggling so much with inflation and other problems following the treaty that ended WWI, maybe Hitler would not have been able to rise to power. But who knows? Historical hindsight is always 20/20.

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    • joshua says:

      IMO, the “war reparations” were very vindictive by the Allied countries of Europe that had been competitors and enemies of Germany for hundreds of years anyway. They were impossible to actually pay, expecially when the German nation was not only broke from the war, but without many available men to work jobs of any kind. The USA has always tried to help put the civilian infrastructures back in place after a devastation from a war, when possible, in recognition that impoverished hopeless people will have kids that will grow up resentful and indoctrinated against those that defeated them. Not out of generosity as many think, but as a practical manner…..This is impossible in the Middle East, unfortunately, as the tribal nature of groups is not like a homogenous population of a nation/state. They also are managed by a religion, not by a free society committed to JudeoChristian principles of compassion and empathy for others not like themselves.

      Too harsh penalties and controls following “winning a war” is what happened to the Southern population during the Northern imposed “reconstructions”, which was punative only and designed to shame and humiliate a proud group of people. Sec of War Stanton was behind using the military to govern them, and they sent predominantly black Northern educated black administrators to the South to “run and govern” everything…..essentially rubbing salt into wounds and by people totally unclear on the mores and values of the landowners who were totally disenfranchised from freedom or individual liberty.

      Many Southerners today carry those resentments against Northern liberals and that is not improved with the militant black liberal behaviors.

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    • czarowniczy says:

      The Allies set up the conditions that brought Hitler in though German National Socialism (not the Socialism one associates with Marx) long predated Hitler – he just managed to bring it all together.
      You have to wonder if something beyond human ken had a hand as before 1932 Hitler failed numerous times, there were nearly 30 known assassination attempt against him, yet he bobbled along to hold an unpopular minority party together while losing the 1932 election only to be appointed chancellor by Hindenburg only to have Hindenburg conveniently die and leave the door open for WW II. His ascent, if you look at it, was most improbable.

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  9. joshua says:

    maybe since we have dogs and cats covered already, Tuesdays could be either rabbit or gerbil day maybe??

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  10. joshua says:

    read this fascinating history of Thanksgiving as we know it

    Thanksgiving as we know it today — at least on the scale we know it — is largely the creation of Mrs. Sarah Josepha Hale, editor of Godey’s Lady’s Book, one of the first women’s magazines. Mrs. Hale spent 36 years browbeating public officials high and low before finally getting Thanksgiving declared a national holiday in 1863.

    But first a little history. What we now think of as the original Thanksgiving took place in the fall of 1621 at the Plymouth colony in Massachusetts, with the Pilgrims and some 90 Wampanoag Indians on hand to chow down, play volleyball, and exchange native diseases. (No joke — an earlier tribe of Indians had been wiped out by European-imported smallpox.) The occasion came to be a semiofficial holiday among New Englanders, one of many such celebrations held throughout the colonies at various times of the year. The idea of holding a national Thanksgiving, however, was slow to catch on. The Continental Congress scheduled the first one for Thursday, December 18, 1777, to celebrate the defeat of General Burgoyne at Saratoga. In 1789 George Washington proclaimed a one-time-only day of thanksgiving for Thursday, November 26, to celebrate the new Constitution. But his successors let the idea drop. Thomas Jefferson, for one, considered proclaiming holidays “a monarchical practice” and paid no attention to Thanksgiving during his term of office.

    Enter Mrs. Hale. A native of New Hampshire, she became obsessed with the idea that “Thanksgiving like the Fourth of July should be considered a national festival by all our people.” Her opening salvo was her first novel, Northwood, published in 1827. An entire chapter was devoted to a detailed description of a Thanksgiving dinner complete with stuffed turkey and pumpkin pie. In 1846, nine years after she became the editor of Godey’s Lady’s Book, she launched a crusade to make Thanksgiving an official holiday. Every fall the magazine would editorialize on the subject, meanwhile running high-cholesterol but probably pretty darn tasty recipes for such things as “Indian Pudding with Frumenty sauce” and “ham soaked in cider three weeks, stuffed with sweet potatoes, and baked in maple syrup.” Mrs. Hale also wrote hundreds of letters to influential people urging them to support her cause.

    Her efforts continued up through the Civil War. In 1861 she asked both sides to “lay aside our enmities on this one day and join in a Thanksgiving Day of Peace.” The appeal failed, but eventually, some believe, she was able to pitch President Lincoln in person. Whatever the case, Abe finally issued a National Thanksgiving Proclamation on October 3, 1863, setting aside the last Thursday of November as the official day.

    Thanksgiving continued to be proclaimed annually by the president this way until 1939, when Franklin Roosevelt blithely declared that Thanksgiving that year was going to take place on the third Thursday of November. Crass commercialism was the chief consideration — FDR hoped to woo retailers, who complained that they needed more time to “make proper provision for the Christmas rush” and incidentally cram in a few more shopping days. FDR’s move outraged Republicans and quite a few football coaches throughout the country, who claimed that not only was FDR trampling on sacred national traditions, he was screwing up the bowl game schedule. For two years, people celebrated Thanksgiving on one of two different days, depending on their political inclinations. In 1941, however, Congress got into the act by officially declaring that Thanksgiving would thenceforward fall on the fourth Thursday of November.

    (from the internet <>)

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  11. stella says:

    Common sense still exists!

    Texas School Destroys ADHD With This OLD SCHOOL Remedy

    While most school districts across the country are cutting back on recess time and ramping up the Ritalin, one Texas school has kindergartners and first graders sitting still and “incredibly attentive.”

    What’s their secret? Their recess time has tripled.

    Instead of 20 minutes of recess per day, Eagle Mountain Elementary kindergartners and first graders now get an hour, broken up into four 15-minute breaks, in addition to lunchtime.

    Their teachers say it’s totally transformed them.

    The kids are less fidgety, less distracted, more engaged in learning and make more eye contact.

    Eagle Mountain is one of dozens of schools in Texas, Oklahoma and California testing out extra recess time as part of a three-year trial. The pilot program is modeled after the Finnish school system, whose students get some of the best scores in the world in reading, math and science.

    http://returntonow.net/2017/11/21/texas-school-beaths-adhd-tripling-recess-time/

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    • czarowniczy says:

      True dat, increase recess for all kids as they are naturally energy-charged at that age. Then again, there are real physical conditions relating to ADHD: http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/15/health/adhd-brain-scans-study/index.html

      also: https://www.kennedykrieger.org/overview/news/study-shows-boys-adhd-have-smaller-volume-frontal-lobes-brain

      We have to find better ways of dealing with ADHD kids in the school systems, this ‘drug ’em till they drop’ stuff is counterproductive in a number of ways. The Feds have to start making the schools treat ADHD as a physical versus psychological condition as so many of these kids end up dropping out and thinking that some form of drug is the answer to their problems. Maybe if we peel back some of the social engineering teaching and go back to teaching-teaching.

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    • joshua says:

      I truly absolutely believe in this….and even through High School where MANDATORY daily PE was part of the school day…every day….and it took the fidgets out of the boys and made the girls exercise too.

      less obesity and more focus….what is wrong with that….now they sit over Video Monitors in computer class or designing a robot.

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      • joshua says:

        The ADHD and ADD do not go away…but this is Behavior Modification in practice…if successful, by adulthood, those with these actual disorders…and they are real…have learned to compensate by different behaviors to be able to be high functioning in a society that they are not easily shoehorned into…..giving out drugs to focus works…but at a huge price in developmental coping skills.

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    • czarina33 says:

      My mother taught kindergarten for over 40 years & frequently explained that children need time off every couple of hours, especially to run around. She had some “hyperactive” ones who had to be excused to go run around the playground fence every 30 minutes so they could regain concentration. Every child who went through her schools read at at least the second grade level upon graduating kindergarten.

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      • joshua says:

        my kindergarten had same “game playing” exercise as well as a ritz cracker and glass of water snack, and a short “nap time” heads down on table with silence in the room….
        and we did numbers, alphabet, songs, pictures, and did not just cut and paste and crayola, altho we did those to illustrate words and retain images and to discuss holidays and special events going on in the nation.

        every one of the kids..it was a private first grade…went to college and had great family lives and raised great kids….no joke…some were brighter than others maybe, but in public school they were way ahead of kids with no kindergarten, which was not offered in public school.

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    • auscitizenmom says:

      All I have to say about that is………………Well, DUH!!! 🙄

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  12. czarowniczy says:

    If anyone’s interested here’s the site for that ‘Boeing 727’ home that was featured yesterday.
    http://www.airplanehome.com/

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    • joshua says:

      Boeing Boeing…

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      • czarowniczy says:

        Strangely enough I remember the movie.

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        • joshua says:

          1960s with Jerry Lewis….

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          • joshua says:

            damn but stewardesses were gorgeous and classy looking in that day….women used to wear high heels shoes and stockings when they went shopping, and nails were either clear or a shade of red, and nothing was pierced and tattoos were only on submariners. And you just WANTED to open a door and pull out their chair for them. Nobody said you had to, or that if you DID you were insulting them. They just smiled and that said “thank you” and made you admire them.

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    • joshua says:

      The 727 was designed for smaller airports, so independence from ground facilities was an important requirement.
      This led to one of the 727’s most distinctive features: the built-in airstair that opens from the rear underbelly of the fuselage, which initially could be opened in flight.[13] Hijacker D. B. Cooper parachuted from the back of a 727 as it was flying over the Pacific Northwest. Boeing subsequently modified the design with the Cooper vane so that the airstair could not be lowered in flight.
      Another innovation was the auxiliary power unit (APU), which allowed electrical and air-conditioning systems to run independently of a ground-based power supply, and without having to start one of the main engines. An unusual design feature is that the APU is mounted in a hole in the keel beam web, in the main landing gear bay.
      The 727 is equipped with a retractable tail skid that is designed to protect the aircraft in the event of an over-rotation on takeoff. The 727’s fuselage has an outer diameter of 148 inches (3.8 m). This allows six-abreast seating (three per side) and a single aisle when 18-inch (46 cm) wide coach-class seats are installed.
      An unusual feature of the fuselage is the 10-inch (25 cm) difference between the lower lobe forward and aft of the wing as the higher fuselage height of the center section was simply retained towards the rear.

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    • Lucille says:

      Whoah, that’s a downright scary way he’s got the nose propped up! LOL!

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  13. joshua says:

    this is a fun down memory lane blog site…

    Nostalgic, evocative scents

    http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=840308

    If anything can transport you instantly back to a specific time, it’s encountering a certain scent, especially unexpectedly.

    Today I was at Big Lots (what a fun store!) and I saw a jar of Noxzema–the original in the cobalt blue jar. I opened it and took a good whiff. I was immediately back in 1958, age 10, sitting on the sofa, slathering the very smelly, mysteriously cooling cream on my brand new sunburn. Noxzema was the go-to remedy during my tanning/burning years.
    …more….on the blog site.

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    • joshua says:

      …wrigley’s spearmint gum to cover up bourbon breath morning after halitosis …

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    • czarowniczy says:

      Oh yes, certain smells like incompletely burned diesel, or the smoke from certain high explosives, drives me back to Vietnam while aircraft hydraulic fluid takes me back to the aircraft hangers at west palm when i was a kid. Light does the same thing, a certain quality of light can do the same thing…would that we could do it for real.

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        • czarowniczy says:

          Too far back.

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          • joshua says:

            honey bucket on a C-130….first grunt that used it had to empty it when landing…no one used it until first guy had to….then EVERYONE rushed to fill it for him so he could enjoy the emptying detail. now there is a smell.

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            • czarowniczy says:

              Hence the term ‘the can’. Back in the 80s two of us were sent on a Reforger exercise to Germany. We were supposed to meet a unit at Charleston AFB and we’d all board a C-141 for a non-stop to Frankfort.
              Long story short – they for some reason bobbled the plane setup and the 141 set down at Charleston without a ‘comfort pallet’ that provided amenities such as a toilet. Luckily the other guy I was going with was a full colonel and I educated him on how the AF operates. A call to the command center where he said that if a comfort pallet wasn’t on that plane within an hour he wanted to be patched thru to the base commander’s home phone made sure that one was there for the long flight out.

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              • joshua says:

                once again proving RHIP

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              • Hey, czar, I immediately remembered that story…

                https://stellasplace1.com/2017/08/01/general-discussion-tuesday-august-2017/#comment-124087

                You’re like my Uncle Buddy was. Like I am, too, I do the same.

                We’ll probably hear it again in a few months. 😉

                Everyone heard Bud’s tales many times, and they were always worth hearing.

                (Afternoon, Stellars!)

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                • czarowniczy says:

                  Second only to the time we had a Reforger flight we had to catch out of an ANG/AFRes site (can’t remember which) in Memphis. There were two companies there we were supposed to fly with and we all were supposed to eat a hearty catered lunch provided by the site before boarding and leaving. Time dragged on and no lunch…finally about an hour and a half an hour late the catering service pulls up and frantically starts setting up the buffet for 150. About the same time the C-141 lands and we’re told to get on, no lollygagging. We boarded and taxied by the buffet, all ready to feed us, staff with surprised looks on their faces. It was a long, hungry flight.

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                  • That’s rough. Too bad the catering co. and whoever on your side ordered the food didn’t communicate to each other, especially about the fact that the military is very punctual. They could have made 150 box lunches easier than setting up a buffet line. Way easier.

                    “Waht we have heah…, is a failuh to communicate.”

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                  • czarowniczy says:

                    Was tough but being engineers and being used to waiting in obscure places we carried emergency pogey bait. It wasn’t a meal but kept us from

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                  • czarowniczy says:

                    fat fingers, small screen
                    …kept us from cooking and eating the flight crew.

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    • Jacqueline Taylor Robson says:

      My Mother used to laugh about me hugging telephone poles when I was a little girl. I still like the smell of creosote for some strange reason.

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  14. Lucille says:

    Those crispy egg whites got me to thinking of the Moody Blues…go figure…

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  15. czarowniczy says:

    Just in case you have a free moment and are looking for a good laugh, an effective emetic – or both – I present Noel Ignatiev:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noel_Ignatiev

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  16. Howie says:

    To all: CTH haz been compromised. I haz been eliminated. Beware. Aloha.

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  17. Howie says:

    CTH went darkside…they got to em’ Ran me out. So..
    Govern yourrself accordingly. And have a happy something.
    ….

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  18. Howie says:

    Everyone who waz anyone in Zimmerman haz now been run off….by Sundance Crackhead.

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  19. Howie says:

    Howie is Banned from CTH! Totally….Amazing. Ban HOWIE NOW!!!

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  20. Howie says:

    I been banned from CTH. I call Sundance out. Alls he can do is BAN
    Howie

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  21. joshua says:

    somehow I have never seen postings like this here.
    strange beans.

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  22. Howie says:

    BAN HOWIE!

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  23. joshua says:

    reminds me of someone maybe…

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  24. czarowniczy says:

    Seems the folks at Louisiana State University, best known as a premier boozing party school and having a sometimes winning football team, has decided to do away with a street on its campus named after Confederate Admiral Semmes. No official word on if the act were done to placate the PC crowd but Semmes was not only an admiral but also, after the war, a professor at LSU – something the LSU spokesperson minimized.
    Semmes was the captain of the CSS Alabama: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CSS_Alabama a ship with a stellar record and whose WW II namesake battleship is an attraction moored in Biloxi. Since a military hero is out due to his service being offensive then why not offer up a replacement such as John Conyers whose exploits are the subject of so many rap songs so widely applauded by that so easily offended segment of the perpetually aggrieved?

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  25. Mr Trump said: “It is a situation we will handle.”

    Drudge right now. The situation in the Koreas are heating up fast.

    Thing is, the most advanced naval fleet ever has NK surrounded, and Trump is friends now with China’s president.

    It isn’t going to WW3 levels. We’re about to see amazing, good things.

    Picture NK as Bergen-Belsen. Whatever patriotic songs the perpetual slaves and human cattle in NK have been wanting to sing for the last few decades will be sung, soon. And they will be recorded.

    Thank you, Jesus.

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  26. stella says:

    Turkey and dumplings for supper. Used the last of the turkey. Pretty good with the last of the cranberry sauce. May have to make more sauce!

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  27. John Denney says:

    Had a musical week-end.
    Saturday afternoon was the final practice for the Handel’s Messiah performance; we ran through it twice.
    Saturday night went to see a karaoke friend’s band play at a declasse biker bar back in a canyon. I was impressed – one high energy song after another with no filler talking in between. Wife finally got, um, comfortable enough that we did swing dance to my friend’s cover of Jimmy Eat World’s, “The Middle”, and was amazed that he and his co-guitarist totally nailed the lead solo.
    Sunday sang in the bass section of the choir for two performances at the 14th Annual Handel’s Messiah Sing-a-Long at the Nixon Library at 10 a.m. and noon.
    Sunday night cooked a steak dinner for a friend visiting from England, then got calls from two separate karaoke friends each saying they had friends in town who wanted to hear our karaoke harmonies, so after bidding my UK friend adieu at about 10, I hustled over to the karaoke place to help wow said friends of friends.
    Good times; wildly disparate venues in four different cities. 🙂
    Dinner required flexibility – my wife had bought three T-bones for the three of us, but then at the last minute, my 22 year old son decided he was going to be there, too. Hmm, how to split 3 steaks 4 ways. My son cooked up a pan full of sauteed mushrooms and onions with rosemary and red wine, then when the steaks were done we cut the main big hunk off each T-bone, sliced it into 3/4 inch strips onto a serving platter, and smothered them with the mushroom onion mix. It looked beautiful, tasted great, and was just enough. Last night I carefully removed the rest of the meat from the bones, boiled the bones for a couple hours, strained the broth, and cooked some egg noodles in it, serving the broth and noodles on top the cold meat and some sauteed veggies in two big Asian soup bowls for my wife and I. Yum!

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  28. auscitizenmom says:

    lilbirdee12’s prayer:

    Our Heavenly Father, Your children come to you tonight to ask for healing and peace throughout our country so that we may return to being One Nation Under God. Guide us to be leaders in Your Kingdom, spreading Your Love and Salvation to all. Forgive us our sins and deliver us from evil.

    Lord, we ask for a blanket of protection over all our troops and law enforcement who serve to defend and protect us. Bless our representatives with the strength and wisdom they need to achieve the path You have chosen for us.

    Please place Your Guardian Angels of Protection around Donald Trump and Mike Pence and their families as they seek to lead America back to You.

    Grant us patience, Lord, as the evil ones try to anger us and cause us to fall.
    Spread blessings over Israel and Netanyahu.

    We humbly ask that You please comfort those who are grieving and in pain.
    Thank you Father, for Your Love and the gift of Life.

    And, Lord, if it is your will, we pray that Judge Roy Moore will win his bid for the Senate.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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  29. joshua says:

    …I am gaining lots of weight reading all the food comments on here…..Thanksgiving pig out was bad enough, but I can’t drool enough to actually loose weight…reading all the food comments makes me so hungry….lol

    maybe I will turn on Rachel Maddow show so I will lose my appetite completely…..self help….

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