General Discussion, Monday, September 11, 2017

Sixteen years ago today.NOTE: IT SHOULD NOT BE NECESSARY TO SAY SO, HOWEVER: NO COMMENTS ABOUT 9/11 CONSPIRACY THEORIES WILL BE ALLOWED HERE TODAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COOPERATION.

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119 Responses to General Discussion, Monday, September 11, 2017

  1. MaryfromMarin says:

    “May the souls of the faithful departed, by the mercy of God, rest in peace.”

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  2. Sharon says:

    There are still no words.

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  3. czarowniczy says:

    Remember in the years after 911 all of the flag pins, those flags designed to fit on the window trim on car doors…they were everywhere. 2008 we get our cryptoMoslem Basthist POtuS and suddenly no displays of patriotism anywhere. From America the Beautiful to Amerika the blue-eyed evil Christian racist devil.

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  4. ImpeachEmAll says:

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  5. nyetneetot says:

    Mornin’ stella! (Smiter of those that ought to be smote) 😎 🍸 (Long Island Iced Tea)
    Mornin’ WeeWeed! (Master Mixologist Extrodinare) 😎 🍸 (Old Fashioned)
    Mornin’ Menagerie! 😎 |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| (Jack Daniels – Single Barrel )
    Mornin’ Ad rem! (Queen Felis catus) 🐱 🍸 (Flaming Lamborghini)
    Mornin’ Sharon! 😎 🍸 🍸 (earthquake)
    Mornin’ ytz4mee! 😎 🍸 (cosmopolitan)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (white wine and perrier)
    Mornin’ partyzantski! πŸ™‚ |_| (Tom Collins)
    Mornin’ texan59! πŸ™‚ |_| (Black & Tan)
    Mornin’ ZurichMike! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (fuzzy navel)
    Mornin’ Col.(R) Ken! (hand salute) πŸ™‚ |_| (Boilermaker)
    Mornin’ czarina33! (aka czarina) πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Lynchburg Lemonade)
    Mornin’ czarowniczy! πŸ™‚ |_| (Wild Turkey Rare Breed)
    Mornin’ letjusticeprevail2014! πŸ™‚ |_| (Irish Car Bomb)
    Mornin’ Patriot1783-ctdar! (aka “ctdar”) πŸ™‚ 🍸 (grasshopper)
    Mornin’ tessa50! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (flaming volcano)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (sidecar)
    Mornin’ varsityward! πŸ™‚ |_| (Godfather)
    Mornin’ MaryfromMarin! πŸ˜€ |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| (Mortlach)
    Mornin’ Wooly Covfefe! (aka “Wooly Phlox” aka “taqiyyologist”) πŸ™‚ |_| (Roy Rogers)
    Mornin’ Howie! (aka “doodahdaze”) πŸ™‚ |_| (Classic Daiquiri)
    Mornin’ TwoLaine! πŸ™‚ |_| (Gin & Tonic)
    Mornin’ Sha! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Lemon Drop)
    Mornin’ BigMamaTEA! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Harvey Wallbanger)
    Mornin’ cetera5! (aka “Cetera”) πŸ™‚ |_| (Blackberry wine)
    Mornin’ The Tundra PA! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Gentleman Jack Whiskey Sling)
    Mornin’ lovely! πŸ™‚ |_| (Backdraft)
    Mornin’ michellc! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Salty dog)
    Mornin’ auscitizenmom! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Kiss on the Lips)
    Mornin’ Margaret-Ann! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (White Russian)
    Mornin’ Auntie Lib! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Tom and Jerry)
    Mornin’ holly100! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Jack & Coke)
    Mornin’ Pam! πŸ™‚ (Not even water)
    Mornin’ Ms.Tee! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Mojito)
    Mornin’ koolkosherkitchen! πŸ™‚ 🍸 🍸 (Cuba Libre)
    Mornin’ ImpeachEmAll πŸ™‚ |_| (Flaming Dr. Pepper)
    Mornin’ Monroe! πŸ™‚ |_| (Stinger)
    Mornin’ Les! πŸ™‚ |_| (Rusty Nail)
    Mornin’ shiloh1973! πŸ™‚ |_| (Jack Daniels)
    Mornin’ TexasRanger! πŸ™‚ |_| (Whiskey Smash)
    Mornin’ Ziiggii! πŸ™‚ |_| (B52)
    Mornin’ oldiadguy! πŸ™‚ |_| (Rum & Coke)
    Mornin’ smiley! (“stuck in spambucket”) πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Spanish coffee)
    Mornin’ derk! (β€œStellars”) πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Kamikaze)
    Mornin’ Jacqueline Taylor Robson πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Shirley Temple)
    Mornin’ facebkwallflower! πŸ™‚ |_| (Night Train Express)
    Mornin’ Ms. Cindy! (aka “Ms Cynlynn” aka “ms cynlynn”) πŸ™‚ 🍸 (1970 ducru beaucaillou)
    Mornin’ sandandsea2015! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (1961 ChΓ’teau Montrose)
    Mornin’ amwick! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Blue motorcycle)
    Mornin’ hocuspocus13! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (1970 Chateau Latour)
    Mornin’ Sloth1963! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (1971 Moulin Touchais)
    Mornin’ MTeresa! (Ex-lurker) πŸ™‚ |_| (Albanian Raki Moskat)
    Mornin’ Rhea Salacia Volans! πŸ™‚ |_| (Hot Buttered Rum)
    Mornin’ joshua! πŸ™‚ |_| (Mudslide)
    Mornin’ John Denney! πŸ™‚ |_| (RumChata)
    Mornin’ litenmaus! πŸ™‚ |_| (Stolichnaya elit, no ice)
    Mornin’ kinthenorthwest! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (A Lonely Island Lost in the Middle of a Foggy Sea)
    Mornin’ TwoLaine! πŸ™‚ |_| (Smoking Bishop)
    Mornin’ patternpuzzler! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Old Lady)
    Mornin’ SenatssekretΓ€r FREISTAAT DANZIG! πŸ™‚ |_| (Red Russian)
    Mornin’ G-d&Country! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Blind Russian)
    Mornin’ Gary! πŸ™‚ |_| (Yuengling)
    Mornin’ valeriecurren! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Flaming Sambuca)
    Mornin’ Lucille! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Peach Schnapps)
    Mornin’ Lburg! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Lburg lemonade)
    Mornin’ davidhuntpe! πŸ™‚ |_| (Baileys Irish Cream on the rocks)
    Mornin’ skipper1961! πŸ™‚ |_| (Brompton’s Cocktail – No cherry, no umbrella, no plastic monkey)
    Mornin’ whiners and complainers! πŸ˜› (No drink for you!)
    Mornin’ to people posting that I missed. 😳
    Mornin’ to all you lurkers! πŸ˜•

    Also just in case someday; mornin’ to Elvis Chupacabra, F.D.R. in Hell and sundance! :mrgreen:

    Breakfast!

    NEW and IMPROVED breakfast with extra bacon for ZurichMike!

    Apple Coffee Cake with Crumble Topping and Brown Sugar Glaze!

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  6. WeeWeed says:

    Mornin’ kids!

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  7. A long time ago now I remember reading on Scott Adam’s blog and he talked about how most Americans watched 9/11 happen on TV, but Trump smelled it. Which was a thought that had not even occurred to me until that point, that the President was in NYC when that Islam-driven attack happened and was up close and personal with Ground Zero.

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  8. G-d&Country says:

    The Angelus (L’Angelus) is an oil painting by French painter Jean-FranΓ§ois Millet, completed between 1857 and 1859.
    Millet said: “The idea for The Angelus came to me because I remembered that my grandmother, hearing the church bell ringing while we were working in the fields, always made us stop work to say the Angelus prayer for the poor departed”

    May God give everlasting peace to those who died on this day, those with lasting injury, and those left behind. Amen I pray also for those in harm’s way today, especially those dear to us, over the internet, and in our daily lives. Amen.
    The Angelus Prayer:
    “Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with you” (Lk 1:28)
    “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb”(Lk 1:42).
    The Angel of the Lord declared to Mary: And she conceived of the Holy Spirit.
    Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee; blessed art thou among women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of
    our death. Amen.
    Behold the handmaid of the Lord: Be it done unto me according to Thy word.
    Hail Mary . . .
    And the Word was made Flesh: And dwelt among us.
    Hail Mary . . .
    Pray for us, O Holy Mother of God, that we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ.
    Let us pray:
    Pour forth, we beseech Thee, O Lord, Thy grace into our hearts; that we, to whom the incarnation of Christ, Thy Son, was made known by the message of an angel, may by His Passion and Cross be brought to the glory of His Resurrection, through the same Christ Our Lord.
    Amen.

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    • Good morning G & C. The picture is very fitting for this day of remembrance for those lost on 9/11 and Floridians dealing with the hurricane.

      Amen and Amen. πŸ™πŸ»

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    • Menagerie says:

      You could not have picked a more appropriate or beautiful painting for today. This is one I love. When I go to Adoration at the Basilica our priest begins at noon with the Angelus. It is a beautiful and moving prayer, and I always think of this painting, and the people who interrupted their day for prayer.

      This painting, the body language, speaks not only of their prayer, but of deep reverence and humility.

      Thank you very much.

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  9. czarowniczy says:

    National news feed at 11 AM has a talking news head on the street in Miami who said: ” there is so much debris in thevetreets that cleanup is in full effect “. Sooooo…if there were a lesser amount they’d just leave it in plsce?
    My friend in Miami said he lost power for a few hours yesterday but it’s back so damage to the local grid isn’t a bad as it could have been.

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    • Menagerie says:

      Czar, I am doing a post tomorrow over at the Tree on supplements. If you get a chance I would appreciate if you put those links you posted a couple of days ago to the Puritan’s Pride stuff you take. I shamelessly plan to use it as a reference.

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      • czarowniczy says:

        You’re quite welcome to use it as……supplemental material. I believe it was the beta sterol and fenugreek, right? For diabetics I might also add that if they’re buying cinnamon to treat their blood sugar is problemstic. A lot of it is not real cinnamon and is basically dust of some sort with cinnamon oil on it, you need to buy it from a reputable source. Also, too much real cinnamon can csuse stomach and liver problems.
        I use Puritans as I tried other sources and found thru testing thst their stuff eorks andvthey carty other brands I use. What cinched it for me was when I was using a certain supplement and they stopped carrying it. I called and asked why and they said that it was plant that was on an endangered list and most of what was left was going to Europe at high prices, 99% of what was being sold here was phony and they won’t carry anything they can’t test and prove to ve what it says it is.

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  10. lovely says:

    Transcript of the Rose/Bannon interview. Everything that many of us thought about the Trump strategy is spot on.

    Breitbart’s Bannon declares war on the GOP

    https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/60-minutes-breitbart-steve-bannon-declares-war-on-the-gop/

    About the Billy Bush tape;

    STEVE BANNON:

    β€œAnd Trump went around the room and asked people the percentages he thought of still winning and what the recommendation. And Reince started off and Reince said, “You have– you have two choices. You either drop out right now, or you lose by the biggest landslide in American political history.” And Trump, with his humor goes, “That’s a great way– that’s a great way to start our– start our conversation.” Β We went around the room. And you could tell– I could tell from the incoming of politicians and I could tell from some of the politicians that were there is that the natural inclination of politicians are to be so overwhelmingly– stunned and shocked by how the media comes on you. But Trump wasn’t that. And I told him as he went around, I was the last guy to speak, and I said, “It’s 100 percent. You have 100 percent probability of winning.”

    CHARLIE ROSE:

    Boy, you took names on Billy Bush Sunday, didn’t you?

    STEVE BANNON:

    I did. O– I gotta– I gotta– you know, I’m Irish. I gotta get my black book and I got ’em. I’ll never– you’ll– it– that’ll believe– Β Christie, because of Billy Bush weekend– and– was– was– not looked at for a cabinet position.

    Black books …..read it and weep perpetual politicians, Bannon has a little black book and President Trump has kept meticulous records on all of you for decades.

    Remember Bannon did this interview to fight for President Trump who he still proudly stands shoulder to shoulder with.

    Rose:

    Blah blah blah you will never say anything bad about Trump.

    STEVE BANNON:

    –it’s not without criticism. I think if there’s one criticism or one observation is that the president in coming here, right, has still thought — at least in the beginning of his administration — that it’s about personalities, and, “If I can change this personality,” or, “If I can get this guy on my side, I can do that.” And it’s not what the institutional logic is. I think some of that was with the FBI and others in the State Department and how his foreign policy is playing out. But I believe you’re gonna see over time he’s gonna have a greater appreciation that this is a city of institutions, and you must engage them as institutions, not just as personalities.

    This is the real eye opener for me. I forgot the first β€œRule of Trump” our president proceeds with what has worked in the past as a businessman. President Trump is a negotiator, a persuader, a man used to dealing with not figureheads but the real head of the establishment. He is now dealing with figureheads they are all tentacles of the same beast and President Trump has been dealing with them as autonomous individuals. If Steve Bannon has figured it out that this is part of the problem, President Trump has figured it out or is figuring it out.

    How bad was this interview for the MSM, DNC and RNC? Imagine what didn’t make the final cut if this is what made it into American’s living rooms.

    And look at what 60 Lies did to Steve Bannon’s face.

    WATCH: Photographer Explains How CBS Uses Color Adjustments To Make Steve Bannon β€˜Look Bad’ On 60 Minutes

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/09/watch-photographer-explains-cbs-used-color-adjustments-make-steve-bannon-look-bad-60-minutes/

    At least they didn’t digitally remove his eyelashes as they did with Anthony Hopkins to make Dr. Lector appear even more sinister.

    Terrible people.

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  11. lovely says:

    Any word on Wooly’s parents? Aus? I saw that Sundance is headed back to his home on the CTH.

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  12. czarowniczy says:

    Local hospital says that seven children who had cardiac surgery in the June/July timeframe have developed infections due to a piece of equipment that wasn’t cleaned properly. Local VA says: “What, you have to clean stuff?”.

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  13. Menagerie says:

    Local weather people tell me I should not use candles. The emergency services people have determined they cause fires. I had not known.

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  14. stella says:

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  15. ImpeachEmAll says:

    An oldie; but a goodie. πŸ˜‰

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  16. Lburg says:

    I’m weary this evening and yet, here I am at Stella’s place. Mostly just to say thank you to Stella, WeeWeed, Menagerie and the rest of the cast of characters for your unflinching dedication to making this site a refuge (and for watering the Tree).

    I sometimes post, sometimes not, but know on a bad day I can come here for prayers, giggles, fine articles, sound thoughts, beautiful photography, funny memes, puns, family stories and breakfast, tea or coffee.

    Thank you one and all. On days of tragic remembrance such as today you are particularly important to me. God bless you. Amen.

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  17. lilbirdee12’s prayer:

    Our Heavenly Father, Your children come to you tonight to ask for healing and peace throughout our country so that we may return to being One Nation Under God. Guide us to be leaders in Your Kingdom, spreading Your Love and Salvation to all. Forgive us our sins and deliver us from evil.

    Lord, we ask for a blanket of protection over all our troops and law enforcement who serve to defend and protect us. Bless our representatives with the strength and wisdom they need to achieve the path You have chosen for us.

    Please place Your Guardian Angels of Protection around Donald Trump and Mike Pence and their families as they seek to lead America back to You.

    Grant us patience, Lord, as the evil ones try to anger us and cause us to fall.
    Spread blessings over Israel and Netanyahu.

    We humbly ask that You please comfort those who are grieving and in pain.
    Thank you Father, for Your Love and the gift of Life.

    And, Lord, we pray for help for the people of Texas and Louisiana who are caught in the flooding. And, now we add everyone in the path of Irma to our prayer for safety.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen

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  18. Lucille says:

    From this day forward, the old gal will be known as Hubris Clinton….

    Hillary Was So Confident She’d Win, She Bought a Home for Her White House Staff
    By Cortney O’Brien – September 11, 2017 | 6:24PM WASHINGTON, DC
    http://www.lifenews.com/2017/09/11/hillary-was-so-confident-shed-win-she-bought-a-home-for-her-white-house-staff/

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  19. So sweet. πŸ™‚

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  20. stella says:

    I’m posting this for a long-time Treeper who prefers to remain anonymous:

    Tell The Children

    Early in the morning, as school was just beginning, one of my students came up to me. She started telling me about something that had happened, “in a big city, when bad people hit a building. Fire people, police went in to help. The buildings fell down and lots of people died. My mommy told me.”

    My student looked at me intently as she told me this news.

    She is 4 years old…

    I was as taken aback as I’ve ever been. My eyes and throat instantly filled with tears. I looked her straight in the eyes, and answered the best I could without breaking down, “Yes, I know. I remember that!” And then went silent, to see what she would say or do next.

    She told me all over again about the people who ran into the buildings, and that the buildings fell down, and that a lot of people had died. I said, “Yes, many of them died. But the fire people and police helped a lot of people to live. They were very, very brave.”

    That was enough for her–and as much as I could do.

    She moved on to play elsewhere in the room. And I stood there, swallowing my tears. Remembering 16 years ago–and thinking how deeply moved and grateful I was that her mother had taken the time to explain such important things to her child. Not hiding it, not denying it–just letting her child know that such things had happened.

    Quite young children can handle things like this, if explained clearly. They are not derailed by emotions and opinions. This little girl’s mother gave her an invaluable gift, the gift of knowledge. As she grows older, she can build on the memories of 9/11, and learn more and more about that time of grief–and, yes, faith, courage, and strength.

    I hope I did my part, as her teacher, to give her the words “very, very brave”, and that the “fire people and police” helped others to live. She will remember the conversation with her mother, and hopefully the one with me.

    Tell your children what happened.

    Never forget.

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