General Discussion, Tuesday, July 4, 2017

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181 Responses to General Discussion, Tuesday, July 4, 2017

  1. czarowniczy says:

    And one wonders if that lie, distant rumbling sound isn’t the Founders spinning in their graves.
    http://myfox8.com/2017/07/02/government-services-shut-down-in-maine-and-new-jersey-both-states-declare-states-of-emergency/
    Both states appear to have enough money to fund the budget, problems seem to be in areas of legislating more powers to get more monies. Can’t wait for Louisiana to try a ‘state of emergency’ declaration as the state’s in the same bag..problem in La is that a huge chunk of the budget’s untouchable earmarked for Gool Old Boy recipients.

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  2. Wooly Covfefe says:

    Dangit, now I’m getting ads here for Yogurt Smoothies and Elder Assisted Living centers.

    It’s almost as if TPTB are listening to us, then poking us in the eye.

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  3. Wooly Covfefe says:

    Czar, I may have stopped mayhem here tonight, by tipping off two County cops to what was planned, and what info I was privy to earlier today.

    Our town is split by a drawbridge. North of it, almost no businesses. Cops protect businesses. Lots of whitebread folk with fine houses on that side. Lots of businesses on the south side.

    So. After the fireworks, the bridge remains open. For a long time. That means cops have to travel a long way to get to the north side. They planned this via social flashmob media, just like they did last year, when they got many jurisdictions’ po-pos to actually shut down our north beach altogetherm because the ferals were being feral. Throwing beer coolers up into the air at velocity, for instance, into crowds of white people with their kiddos, who just wanted to watch the fireworks. Just going bonkers.

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    • Wooly Covfefe says:

      Add: the bridge remains open because thousands of boats have to return to their various marinas.

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    • Wooly Covfefe says:

      Add: they were going to take over a park on the north side. I heard fewer sirens tonight than any July 4 in ten years. Who knows? Maybe they decided “lets get together in large groups and actually be GOOD!”

      If I made a mark on that, then good. Quit being evil, you people! Quit committing crimes!

      I work, and have worked with ex-cons.

      Stop it!

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      • shiloh1973 says:

        Just read they had a large fight at Grand Haven State Park. Had to close it down. What the heck has happened to my old home? Haven’t lived there since 1973, but the changes still surprise me. My brother is living in Grand Haven. I will check with him tomorrow.

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        • ImpeachEmAll says:

          Roger Lenneman, WZZM 12:07 AM. EDT July 04, 2017

          GRAND HAVEN, MICH. – Grand Haven State Park was evacuated and shut down Monday evening after police responded to a large fight on the beach.

          Grand Haven officers were called to the park around 7 p.m. for a disturbance. The situation continued to get worse throughout the evening hours. Officers say 300 people were causing problems and began fighting. They say there were eight to 10 fights taking place.

          Officers working on crowd control called in all available off-duty officers and for help from the Ottawa County Sheriff’s Department, Michigan State Police, and Norton Shores Police Department. State park employees made the decision to close the park.

          Everyone inside the park, besides those camping there, were asked to leave. Officers were able to clear the park by 9:30 p.m. Patrols in downtown Grand Haven were increased following the evacuation to make sure the violence didn’t move.

          Grand Haven officers say there were no reported injuries or damage to property during the fights. They also expect to have extra security on Tuesday to make sure there isn’t a repeat occurrence during Independence Day celebrations.

          http://www.wzzm13.com/news/local/grand-haven/large-fight-closes-grand-haven-state-park/453990638

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          • shiloh1973 says:

            What a mess! Why can’t people just mind there own business and stop ruining everything.

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            • Menagerie says:

              Because “people” include some who are not really among the human, just animalsmon two legs.

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              • Wooly Covfefe says:

                The completely appropriate word is “feral”. Imagine five generations of a people who never taught their kids right from wrong, and worse, taught them that wrong was right.

                That’s what we see in these people, in these stories.

                I love working with these folks, and at the same time, for them. Preaching the Gospel without using words. A little leaven, as it were, loving actively. That gets through more than words do. It’s fun when you realize that you’re not working for the paycheck, but for the Glory of God, and when you see the results.

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                • Menagerie says:

                  Wooly, you are a much better Christian than me. I’d just be hitting them with my frying pan. Probably for real. I once chased my oldest son out of the kitchen with a hot cast iron skillet. Can’t remember now exactly why, but trust me, he deserved it.

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        • Yep. Heard about that when I got up and around town this morning. Sad shame.

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      • auscitizenmom says:

        LOL

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      • czarowniczy says:

        Or they were too drunk to be bad.

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    • czarowniczy says:

      I’m hopeful that your PD is motivated more by public safety than by political directions. It isn’t unusual in some jurisdictions for the pols to either figure out when ‘things’ are going to happen or get intel that something’s afoot. At that point they have to make decisions: will we risk aggravating the actors and their supporters by taking action, will we take action and risk making things worse or will we sit it out and just respond when something happens?

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  4. ImpeachEmAll says:

    Never gets old…

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  5. ImpeachEmAll says:

    Hillary is definitely not the sharpest tack in the box…

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    • auscitizenmom says:

      SMH

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    • czarowniczy says:

      The Secure Telephone Units were fun, even after you got your phone synced with the other phone (good luck there) it still sounded as if you were talking through a vat of boiling jello.
      I could probably give her some leeway on the use of the phone (nah, I won’t) but where was the State SSO when it came to that password? Oh, and BTW, thst message Isn’t marked classified and the paragraphs in it are not marked with their classifications. That message and the paragraph containing that password should have been marked with the highest level of classification that password allowed her to access.

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    • Wooly Covfefe says:

      “We Dodged a Bullet Last November”, proof #2,678.

      Ace says it almost every day. “Here’s some crazy bad news, BUT… Hillary Clinton will never be President.”

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  6. ImpeachEmAll says:

    Noise abatement…

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    • ImpeachEmAll says:

      Boom, boom, boom…

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    • Wooly Covfefe says:

      Chef’s dog, a little Maltese named Stewie, just yawns. He watched the fireworks last night with his dogmom, close-up, down at the pier. No fear at all of things that go boom… Same with my kitteh. They are city animals, I suppose. Noise is just part of the city.

      We were sitting outside at Chef’s house last night, sans lights and incognito, watching the bumper-to-bumper exodus from the city until 1:30 or so, and at least three people within a block were setting off astonishing displays every couple of minutes.

      Stewie just absorbs the vibe of his people. If we’re calm, then so is he. Another friend of mine had a yellow lab. If you got a gun out, he ran and hid and shivered. Even though he’d never seen a gun in his life. I never understood that, and we figured it must be genetic memory or something.

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      • auscitizenmom says:

        I see the same thing with doorbells. My dogs had never heard a doorbell at our house and we had them from puppies. We didn’t have one. But, when the doorbell rang on the TV they would jump up and run to the door barking. πŸ˜•

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  7. ImpeachEmAll says:

    July 4th truth…

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  8. ImpeachEmAll says:

    Happiness is where you find it…

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  9. ImpeachEmAll says:

    socialists being socialists…

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  10. stella says:

    Seen on Facebook:

    Wretchard T. Cat July 4, 2016 at 5:54am Β·Twitter
    β€œThey say Washington will return to his farm.” β€œIf he does that,” George III said, β€œhe will be the greatest man in the world.” He did.
    ***************
    Wretchard T. Cat wrote – “By contrast you can’t get rid of today’s politicians. They create dynasties, “libraries”, foundations etc. They stay on in public life well into their dotage, giving speeches and making spectacles of themselves.
    One possible explanation for the difference is that leadership for Washington meant risk, privation and hardship. Air Force One was a horse. When there is much to gain high office attracts opportunists. When there is everything to lose the quality come forth.”

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  11. WeeWeed says:

    Mornin’ kids! Happy Fourth!

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  12. nyetneetot says:

    Mornin’ stella! (Smiter of those that ought to be smote) 😎 🍸 (Long Island Iced Tea)
    Mornin’ WeeWeed! (Master Mixologist Extrodinare) 😎 🍸 (Old Fashioned)
    Mornin’ Menagerie! 😎 |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| (Jack Daniels – Single Barrel )
    Mornin’ Ad rem! (Queen Felis catus) 🐱 🍸 (Flaming Lamborghini)
    Mornin’ Sharon! 😎 🍸 🍸 (earthquake)
    Mornin’ ytz4mee! 😎 🍸 (cosmopolitan)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (white wine and perrier)
    Mornin’ partyzantski! πŸ™‚ |_| (Tom Collins)
    Mornin’ texan59! πŸ™‚ |_| (Black & Tan)
    Mornin’ ZurichMike! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (fuzzy navel)
    Mornin’ Col.(R) Ken! (hand salute) πŸ™‚ |_| (Boilermaker)
    Mornin’ Czarina! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Lynchburg Lemonade)
    Mornin’ czarowniczy! πŸ™‚ |_| (Wild Turkey Rare Breed)
    Mornin’ letjusticeprevail2014! πŸ™‚ |_| (Irish Car Bomb)
    Mornin’ Patriot1783-ctdar! (aka “ctdar”) πŸ™‚ 🍸 (grasshopper)
    Mornin’ tessa50! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (flaming volcano)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (sidecar)
    Mornin’ varsityward! πŸ™‚ |_| (Godfather)
    Mornin’ MaryfromMarin! πŸ˜€ |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| (Mortlach)
    Mornin’ Wooly Covfefe! (aka “Wooly Phlox” aka “taqiyyologist”) πŸ™‚ |_| (Roy Rogers)
    Mornin’ Howie! (aka “doodahdaze”) πŸ™‚ |_| (Classic Daiquiri)
    Mornin’ TwoLaine! πŸ™‚ |_| (Gin & Tonic)
    Mornin’ Sha! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Lemon Drop)
    Mornin’ BigMamaTEA! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Harvey Wallbanger)
    Mornin’ cetera5! (aka “Cetera”) πŸ™‚ |_| (Blackberry wine)
    Mornin’ The Tundra PA! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Baileys Irish Cream on the rocks)
    Mornin’ lovely! πŸ™‚ |_| (Backdraft)
    Mornin’ michellc! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Salty dog)
    Mornin’ auscitizenmom! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Kiss on the Lips)
    Mornin’ Margaret-Ann! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (White Russian)
    Mornin’ Auntie Lib! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Tom and Jerry)
    Mornin’ holly100! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Jack & Coke)
    Mornin’ Pam! πŸ™‚ (Not even water)
    Mornin’ Ms.Tee! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Mojito)
    Mornin’ koolkosherkitchen! πŸ™‚ 🍸 🍸 (Cuba Libre)
    Mornin’ ImpeachEmAll πŸ™‚ |_| (Flaming Dr. Pepper)
    Mornin’ Monroe! πŸ™‚ |_| (Stinger)
    Mornin’ Les! πŸ™‚ |_| (Rusty Nail)
    Mornin’ shiloh1973! πŸ™‚ |_| (Jack Daniels)
    Mornin’ TexasRanger! πŸ™‚ |_| (Whiskey Smash)
    Mornin’ Ziiggii! πŸ™‚ |_| (B52)
    Mornin’ oldiadguy! πŸ™‚ |_| (Rum & Coke)
    Mornin’ smiley! (“stuck in spambucket”) πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Spanish coffee)
    Mornin’ derk! (β€œStellars”) πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Kamikaze)
    Mornin’ Jacqueline Taylor Robson πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Shirley Temple)
    Mornin’ facebkwallflower! πŸ™‚ |_| (Night Train Express)
    Mornin’ Ms. Cindy! (aka “Ms Cynlynn” aka “ms cynlynn”) πŸ™‚ 🍸 (1970 ducru beaucaillou)
    Mornin’ sandandsea2015! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (1961 ChΓ’teau Montrose)
    Mornin’ amwick! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Blue motorcycle)
    Mornin’ hocuspocus13! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (1970 Chateau Latour)
    Mornin’ Sloth1963! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (1971 Moulin Touchais)
    Mornin’ MTeresa! (Ex-lurker) πŸ™‚ |_| (Albanian Raki Moskat)
    Mornin’ Rhea Salacia Volans! πŸ™‚ |_| (Hot Buttered Rum)
    Mornin’ joshua! πŸ™‚ |_| (Mudslide)
    Mornin’ John Denney! πŸ™‚ |_| (RumChata)
    Mornin’ litenmaus! πŸ™‚ |_| (Stolichnaya elit, no ice)
    Mornin’ kinthenorthwest! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (A Lonely Island Lost in the Middle of a Foggy Sea)
    Mornin’ TwoLaine! πŸ™‚ |_| (Smoking Bishop)
    Mornin’ patternpuzzler! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Old Lady)
    Mornin’ SenatssekretΓ€r FREISTAAT DANZIG! πŸ™‚ |_| (Red Russian)
    Mornin’ G-d&Country! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Blind Russian)
    Mornin’ whiners and complainers! πŸ˜› (No drink for you!)
    Mornin’ to people posting that I missed. 😳
    Mornin’ to all you lurkers! πŸ˜•

    Also just in case someday; mornin’ to Elvis Chupacabra, F.D.R. in Hell and sundance! :mrgreen:

    Breakfast!

    NEW and IMPROVED breakfast with extra bacon for ZurichMike!

    Doughnuts and coffee!

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  13. Fun!!!!! Happy 4th everyone!

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  14. stella says:

    In the New York Times, of all places.

    American Reds, Soviet Stooges

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/07/03/opinion/communist-party-usa-soviet-union.html

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  15. auscitizenmom says:

    FIGHTING BACK NOW!
    “Catholic Farmers Banned from East Lansing Market Speak Out… and Sue
    They were asked a question on Facebook. Then, they were banned.”

    “The progressive officials of East Lansing, Michigan, banned a local farmer from selling his crop at market because of his views on marriage. Steve Tennes, owner of The Country Mill in the nearby town of Charlotte, has for years sold fruit at the East Lansing Farmers Market twenty miles away. But because he refused to host a lesbian wedding on his farm three years ago, the city is discriminating against his religious beliefs.”

    http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/catholic-farmers-banned-east-lansing-market-speak-out-and-sue

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  16. auscitizenmom says:

    Should we be surprised? 😯
    ‘Trans Activist: Straight Men Must Learn to be Attracted to Transgenders
    “There is no logic here. Only madness and deviancy.”‘
    “Oh, but please don’t think this logic will be applied fairly across the board. After all, you might say, if a straight man must “work through” his aversion to other men, shouldn’t a gay man “work through” his aversion to women? That would be logically consistent, wouldn’t it? Yes, it would, but there is no logic here. Only madness and deviancy.”

    http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/trans-activist-straight-men-must-learn-be-attracted-transgenders

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  17. czarowniczy says:

    Presently sitting in the hospital, waiting…
    Sidebar: if you’re friends I just had to take Czarina in to see her patients. If you’re family, don’t sweat it as you’re out of the will anyway.
    Amazing how great the traffic is, cops actually outnumber speeders and aggressive a****le drivers today. Diners are full, maybe my fav little Japanese restaurant will be open for lunch, and grocery stores are really lightly populated. Makes me wish we had more holidays a year….you can take the boy out of civil service but…

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  18. kinthenorthwest says:

    Warning, put your drinks down prior to watching video.
    This is how bad the media has gotten.

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  19. czarowniczy says:

    Changed from the hospital’s free wi-if (‘free’ ha!) and back to my portable hotspot. Hospital system’s locking up and making my iPad disjunction even more worser.
    I’m in a different section of the hospital now, over by Czarina’s office which is right under the Diabetes Management section which is right by a bank of junk food and soda pop machines. Talk about ginning up your own business…

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  20. Wooly Covfefe says:

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    • Wooly Covfefe says:

      Mackinac Bridge today.

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    • kinthenorthwest says:

      Should go to where I work…they line the two blocks to the entrance with flags every holiday…It is so awesome looking.
      Although its a government office, the majority of the workers are the most patriotic group you can ever meet. I do stick out like a sore thumb in my department since I am the only one of two conservatives in the education department. My department is less than 5% of the total workforce anyway, so the other people in my department are rare in my overall workplace.

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  21. czarowniczy says:

    Woo Hoo…emergency chopper just landed on the hospital roof, someone’s 4th is off to a rocky start.

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    • kinthenorthwest says:

      not the type of ride I want for the 4th…especially if its being strapped to a runner. LOL

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    • Menagerie says:

      Gotta wonder if fireworks and or alcohol were involved.

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      • czarowniczy says:

        And if not, WHY NOT!

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      • kinthenorthwest says:

        On the 4th its usually one or both.
        Last night someone set off one that was really really loud.

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        • Wooly Covfefe says:

          You should hear how many fireworks are going off right now in SH.

          Best year ever for it. Michigan finally legalized the good ones a couple of years ago, with restrictions on WHEN. Two weeks before and after Independence from King George III Day, anything goes. Homemade cannons, mortars, whatever. I guess the state finally figured that it’s in the state’s best interest to let the stupid people suffer the consequences, and Darwin wins — and so does the state.

          It’s like one of those rolling thunderstorms right now, aurally. Constant booms, cracks, bangs, and even professional pyrotechnic-like displays. From every direction.

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  22. Sharon says:

    Question for some of you who ‘know stuff’ – what is your take on the F-35 business? Just found this article on AT and I think it’s the first I’ve seen that takes on a larger picture and points out the fallacies (in the writer’s opinion) of public put-downs of the program.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/07/the_f35_critics_vs_the_facts.html

    He lays out some of the principles of R & D on a new program – makes sense to me.

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  23. Happy Fourth Everyone!

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    • Wooly Covfefe says:

      Wow, Rhea. That takes me back.

      I saw them at Cornerstone in Chicago in the 80s. I think Petra was there, too. Along with Mad at the World, and maybe the Rez Band.

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    • Wooly Covfefe says:

      I didn’t think I knew anyone who’s even heard of White Heart.

      Had this on cassette tape.

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      • Wooly Covfefe says:

        Christian record stores were my haunt in the 80s. Youth groups and witnessing in downtown Detroit with my church. So many memories. Thanks, Rhea.

        The sidebar I want to listen to, and remember, but I don’t at the same time.

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  24. auscitizenmom says:

    lilbirdee12’s prayer:

    Our Heavenly Father, Your children come to you tonight to ask for healing and peace throughout our country so that we may return to being One Nation Under God. Guide us to be leaders in Your Kingdom, spreading Your Love and Salvation to all. Forgive us our sins and deliver us from evil.

    Lord, we ask for a blanket of protection over all our troops and law enforcement who serve to defend and protect us. Bless our representatives with the strength and wisdom they need to achieve the path You have chosen for us.

    Please place Your Guardian Angels of Protection around Donald Trump and Mike Pence and their families as they seek to lead America back to You.

    Grant us patience, Lord, as the evil ones try to anger us and cause us to fall.
    Spread blessings over Israel and Netanyahu.

    We humbly ask that You please comfort those who are grieving and in pain.
    Thank you Father, for Your Love and the gift of Life.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen

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  25. lovely says:

    I think this is my favorite one so far.

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  26. Wooly Covfefe says:

    I am blessed. This is my home.

    The apartment is just my bedroom.

    Seeing this, I’m torn about whether to leave.

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    • Wooly Covfefe says:

      I was looking for videos of the fireworks last night, as there were three drones visible during the entire display. Some incredibly close to the “rockets’ red glare, and the bombs bursting in mid-air”.

      They’ll be up on YouTube in a couple of days. I know every building in the initial sequence, and have been on many of the rooftops.

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  27. lovely says:

    This is an interesting thread. I had the same thought that CNN black mailed the meme creator when they tracked him down. Why would Trump supporters be threatening the meme creator? That makes no sense. Possibly a liberal plant and exposure would be bad for Team CNN?

    Interesting times.

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  28. ImpeachEmAll says:

    Cannot have July 4th without the hotdog contest…

    Joey Chestnut is a BEAST because he ate like one … scarfing down a record 72 HOT DOGS to win his second straight Nathan’s Famous Hot Dog Eating Contest.

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