General Discussion, Thursday, February 9, 2017

Posted on February 9, 2017 by Stella

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  2. MaryfromMarin says:
    February 9, 2017 at 1:02 am

    I’m not looking, but…Castle Stalker??? (Made famous by Monty Python’s The Holy Grail…)

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  3. amwick says:
    February 9, 2017 at 6:09 am

    Good morning Figments..
    Yesterday it was in the mid 70s, very warm even for SC and tennis was wonderful. Today, our friends are coming over and we are all going out to a seafood place for lunch, 2:30. This is really strange, but it is what they do. Retired people having a late lunch, early dinner. I have decided to make them a loaf of bread from the magic machine.. A very big day here at the cottage.

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  4. amwick says:
    February 9, 2017 at 6:13 am

    BTW this whole issue with the 9th circus has me, well, downright distressed. Our President is trying to do what he said he would, and look at what happened. I just want to pat him on the shoulder and say something soothing.

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    • sandandsea2015 says:
      February 9, 2017 at 6:40 am

      It is hard to witness Trump being attacked day in and day out, but with so many prayerful folks in our country praying for his protection and strength, he will prevail. Trump has shown us he has the strength, stamina, and courage to do the job. I believe God and His people are lifting him up. 🙂

      Rom 8:31 What, then, shall we say in response to this? If God is for us, who can be against us?

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    • czarowniczy says:
      February 9, 2017 at 10:05 am

      Court system was designed that way to prevent abuses. Unfortunately it frequently prevents things from getting done. Uninted consequences of having developed swords with dual cutting surfaces.

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      • amwick says:
        February 9, 2017 at 10:08 am

        Not sure I follow that… I am with the people that believe that this issue should never have been brought before the courts.. Never… they will do this on every decision, every one… SMH, unless it is somehow nipped in the legal bud.

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        • czarowniczy says:
          February 9, 2017 at 10:41 am

          Any issue can be brought before a court, you should sit in on civil court sometimes and see what flushes in. There’s just no way to limit what a court can hear without creating problems that will destroy the court system, judges are supposed to weed out what comes before them.

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    • lovely says:
      February 9, 2017 at 10:54 am

      If the the most overturned court in the United States spits on the constitution and chooses to once again push their own agenda over the law they will for all but the most seeped in hypocrisy forever known as malicious enemies of America.

      There are few clearer cut cases that will come before a court than President Trump exercising his constitutional authority ;

      (f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President
      Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate. Whenever the Attorney General finds that a commercial airline has failed to comply with regulations of the Attorney General relating to requirements of airlines for the detection of fraudulent documents used by passengers traveling to the United States (including the training of personnel in such detection), the Attorney General may suspend the entry of some or all aliens transported to the United States by such airline.

      If the 9th Circus Court (Love it thanks amwick!) goes rogue President Trump should direct the Attorney General to enforce 8 U.S. Code § 1182 – Inadmissible aliens (point A) until the Constitutional Law is restored.

      (a) Classes of aliens ineligible for visas or admissionExcept as otherwise provided in this chapter, aliens who are inadmissible under the following paragraphs are ineligible to receive visas and ineligible to be admitted to the United States:
      (1) Health-related grounds
      (A) In generalAny alien—
      (i) who is determined (in accordance with regulations prescribed by the Secretary of Health and Human Services) to have a communicable disease of public health significance; [1]

      https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1182

      22 Percent of Resettled Refugees in Minnesota Test Positive for Tuberculosis

      http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/05/17/22-resettled-refugees-minnesota-tested-positive-tuberculosis/

      Evidence of support of ISIS on their cell phones or pictures of the barbarism of Islam should be sufficient evidence of terror connections and sympathies, anyone coming into the country with such on their phones should be denied access to America and sent back to their country of origin.

      Time to throw up the road blocks, overwhelm the liberal courts and force terrorist enablers to admit that they are indeed in favor of allowing terrorists into America to prove that they themselves are good people.

      Fight fire with fire.

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  5. sandandsea2015 says:
    February 9, 2017 at 6:41 am

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  6. Col.(R) Ken says:
    February 9, 2017 at 6:46 am

    I’ll be back sometime this evening, about 8″ over night, another 3″ today…….

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  7. WeeWeed says:
    February 9, 2017 at 7:16 am

    Mornin’ kids!

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  11. nyetneetot says:
    February 9, 2017 at 7:55 am

    Mornin’ stella! (Smiter of those that ought to be smote) 😎 🍸 (Long Island Iced Tea)
    Mornin’ WeeWeed! (Master Mixologist Extrodinare) 😎 🍸 (Old Fashioned)
    Mornin’ Menagerie! 😎 |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| (Jack Daniels – Single Barrel )
    Mornin’ Ad rem! (Queen Felis catus) 🐱 🍸 (Flaming Lamborghini)
    Mornin’ Sharon! 😎 🍸 🍸 (earthquake)
    Mornin’ ytz4mee! 😎 🍸 (cosmopolitan)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! 🙂 🍸 (white wine and perrier)
    Mornin’ partyzantski! 🙂 |_| (Tom Collins)
    Mornin’ texan59! 🙂 |_| (Black & Tan)
    Mornin’ ZurichMike! 🙂 🍸 (fuzzy navel)
    Mornin’ Col.(R) Ken! (hand salute) 🙂 |_| (Boilermaker)
    Mornin’ Czarina! 🙂 🍸 (Lynchburg Lemonade)
    Mornin’ czarowniczy! 🙂 |_| (Wild Turkey Rare Breed)
    Mornin’ letjusticeprevail2014! 🙂 |_| (Irish Car Bomb)
    Mornin’ Patriot1783-ctdar! (aka “ctdar”) 🙂 🍸 (grasshopper)
    Mornin’ tessa50! 🙂 🍸 (flaming volcano)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! 🙂 🍸 (sidecar)
    Mornin’ varsityward! 🙂 |_| (Godfather)
    Mornin’ MaryfromMarin! 😀 |_| |_| (Mortlach)
    Mornin’ Wooly Phlox! (aka “taqiyyologist”) 🙂 |_| (Roy Rogers)
    Mornin’ Howie! (aka “doodahdaze”) 🙂 |_| (Classic Daiquiri)
    Mornin’ TwoLaine! 🙂 |_| (Gin & Tonic)
    Mornin’ Sha! 🙂 🍸 (Lemon Drop)
    Mornin’ BigMamaTEA! 🙂 🍸 (Harvey Wallbanger)
    Mornin’ cetera5! (aka “Cetera”) 🙂 |_| (Blackberry wine)
    Mornin’ The Tundra PA! 🙂 🍸 (Baileys Irish Cream on the rocks)
    Mornin’ lovely! 🙂 |_| (Backdraft)
    Mornin’ michellc! 🙂 🍸 (Salty dog)
    Mornin’ auscitizenmom! 🙂 🍸 (Kiss on the Lips)
    Mornin’ Margaret-Ann! 🙂 🍸 (White Russian)
    Mornin’ Auntie Lib! 🙂 🍸 (Tom and Jerry)
    Mornin’ holly100! 🙂 🍸 (Jack & Coke)
    Mornin’ Pam! 🙂 (Not even water)
    Mornin’ Ms.Tee! 🙂 🍸 (Mojito)
    Mornin’ koolkosherkitchen! 🙂 🍸 🍸 (Cuba Libre)
    Mornin’ ImpeachEmAll 🙂 |_| (Flaming Dr. Pepper)
    Mornin’ Monroe! 🙂 |_| (Stinger)
    Mornin’ Les! 🙂 |_| (Rusty Nail)
    Mornin’ shiloh1973! 🙂 |_| (Jack Daniels)
    Mornin’ TexasRanger! 🙂 |_| (Whiskey Smash)
    Mornin’ Ziiggii! 🙂 |_| (B52)
    Mornin’ oldiadguy! 🙂 |_| (Rum & Coke)
    Mornin’ smiley! (“stuck in spambucket”) 🙂 🍸 (Spanish coffee)
    Mornin’ derk! (“Stellars”) 🙂 🍸 (Kamikaze)
    Mornin’ Jacqueline Taylor Robson 🙂 🍸 (Shirley Temple)
    Mornin’ facebkwallflower! 🙂 |_| (Night Train Express)
    Mornin’ Ms. Cindy! (aka “Ms Cynlynn” aka “ms cynlynn”) 🙂 🍸 (1970 ducru beaucaillou)
    Mornin’ sandandsea2015! 🙂 🍸 (1961 Château Montrose)
    Mornin’ amwick! 🙂 🍸 (Blue motorcycle)
    Mornin’ hocuspocus13! 🙂 🍸 (1970 Chateau Latour)
    Mornin’ Sloth1963! 🙂 🍸 (1971 Moulin Touchais)
    Mornin’ MTeresa! (Ex-lurker) 🙂 |_| (Albanian Raki Moskat)
    Mornin’ Rhea Salacia Volans! 🙂 |_| (Hot Buttered Rum)
    Mornin’ joshua! 🙂 |_| (Mudslide)
    Mornin’ John Denney 🙂 |_| (RumChata)
    Mornin’ litenmaus 🙂 |_| (Stolichnaya elit, no ice)
    Mornin’ kinthenorthwest 🙂 🍸 (A Lonely Island Lost in the Middle of a Foggy Sea)
    Mornin’ TwoLaine 🙂 |_| (Smoking Bishop)
    Mornin’ patternpuzzler 🙂 🍸 (Old Lady)
    Mornin’ Senatssekretär FREISTAAT DANZIG 🙂 |_| (Red Russian)
    Mornin’ whiners and complainers! 😛 (No drink for you!)
    Mornin’ to people posting that I missed. 😳
    Mornin’ to all you lurkers! 😕

    Also just in case someday; mornin’ to Elvis Chupacabra, F.D.R. in Hell and sundance! :mrgreen:

    Breakfast!

    NEW and IMPROVED breakfast with extra bacon for ZurichMike!

    Cinnamon rolls for coffee!

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    • sandandsea2015 says:
      February 9, 2017 at 8:01 am

      Morning Nyet!!! Looks great!

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    • michellc says:
      February 9, 2017 at 8:10 am

      Mornin’!

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      • amwick says:
        February 9, 2017 at 8:20 am

        mmmmmmmmmm.. hash brown potatoes… Has anyone tried the instant ones?? I saw them on sale, but I was suspicious..

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        • czarowniczy says:
          February 9, 2017 at 2:24 pm

          Instant of frozen? Dried obes, if such a beast exists, might be better reconstituted with a chicken broth vice water. Reconstituted of frozen, when cooked with bacon grease, onion and garlic powder, (yeah, I use frozen ones) work great. You can even take the uncooked frozen, mix with beaten eggs and the aforementioned spices, and make potato pancakes.
          Just had shrimp poboy for lunch so I’m in a foodie frame of mind.

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        • Mr Snado says:
          February 9, 2017 at 10:20 pm

          We roll our own instant hash browns. Boil some Yukon Gold spuds, blanch ’em in ice water, grate, season to taste, make into patties, dehydrate, and vacuum seal into servings for two. Throw in a 5 gal bucket with a gamma sealed lid. I usually do 50lbs worth at a time. To rehydrate they just sit in a bowl with some water and then get fried up in bacon grease or lard in a cast iron fryin’ pan. Easy, peasy. We do up 3-4 months worth in a weekend. All American 21 qt pressure cooker. Excalibur 9 tray dehydrators. Food Saver vacuum sealer. Last we penciled it out it’s about 15 cents for two servings. The equipment paid for itself a long, long, time ago.

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          • czarowniczy says:
            February 9, 2017 at 11:39 pm

            When I lived in Utah we dried/bagged/pailed a lot more than we do now – remember doing ‘fruit leather’ with leftovers from juicing long before it became commercial. Still can a lot but being lazier now I tend to buy a lot of things already dried and in bags to cache. I will say that home-dried spuds do sound like they’d taste mo’ betterer though.

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            • Mr Snado says:
              February 10, 2017 at 7:23 pm

              That’s just it, when you make meals exactly the way ya like ’em, it always tastes mo bettah. I likes my hash browns with Johnny’s Seasoning Salt and my loving bride prefers Sea Salt and fresh cracked peppercorns with a little chili powder. We dehydrate/vacuum seal up one of each in the same bag and Bob’s yer Uncle.

              We’d be lost if we didn’t have the smokers, pressure cookers, juicer, dehydrators, vacuum sealer, and freezers. We still cook for nine even there’s only us two here now, and put up the rest. Canning yesterdays home made left over Minestrone soup in the pressure cooker as I tap. I like the sound of the weight rattling a few times a minute…

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              • czarowniczy says:
                February 10, 2017 at 8:20 pm

                Yup, no juicer but I vacuum bag, especially meat. Great for marinating pork too.
                When we built I bought a Viking stove top with a huge wok burner in the center. Fits the woks with the grate removed, fries a huge frypan of anything, but most importantly it fits the big waterbath canner an canning pressure cooker. Generally only use that big pressure cooker for canning but our 40+ year old gallon one still does great stews, soups and leather-tough pig.
                I find that I can preserve stuff that meets our needs and tastes and not have to adjust my tastes and needs around what some mass marketer’s focus groups feel is acceptable to the widest commercial audience.

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                • Mr Snado says:
                  February 11, 2017 at 12:17 pm

                  I’m probably doing this reply wrong, but livin’ on the edge comes natural. We were discussing putting up foods and I mentioned our juicer. It was a gift from a friend, we weren’t shopping for one and had never even used such a thing. Turns out it’s commercial quality made by Green Star. That thing will juice walnuts if you can shove ’em in the hole. We use it almost daily now. Any veggies in the crisper that are gettin’ a little long in the tooth get juiced, bagged, and frozen. We use those for soups and stew stock. It’s always a different mix so that makes it kind of fun.

                  Also on the Food Saver vacuum machine there’s an attachment for marinating. It’s about an 8″x8″x4″ plastic canister and I use it for marinating meats to put on the smoker. Instead of having to marinate over night, it does a better job in about 15 min. Pulls a vacuum, holds it for a few minutes, releases for a few minutes, lather, rinse, repeat. Pulls yer marinade deep into the meat.

                  The next toy going into my man kitchen is gonna be a freeze dryer: https://harvestright.com/ They have a contest that gives away one per mo and one of these years I’m gonna win one.

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          • amwick says:
            February 10, 2017 at 7:30 am

            I may have to go shopping… sounds great. TY..

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    • Rhea Salacia Volans says:
      February 9, 2017 at 8:38 am

      Bacon and cinnamon rolls for me! Thank you Nyet!

      Morning everyone! Stay Deplorable!

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    • auscitizenmom says:
      February 9, 2017 at 9:59 am

      Yep, bacon and eggs……….and a piece of the best banana nut bread I ever tasted. I tried a recipe somebody put on here. It has vanilla and sour cream in it. So good. Mornin’ Nyet and everyone. 🙂

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    • lovely says:
      February 9, 2017 at 11:27 am

      Good morning Nyet 🙂

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    • Col.(R) Ken says:
      February 9, 2017 at 7:13 pm

      Nye!!!!! Evening Everyone!!!!!!! Thanks for keeping the Kitchen open!!! Thank you……..

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  12. amwick says:
    February 9, 2017 at 8:33 am

    Happy NO SNOW HERE Dance

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  13. michellc says:
    February 9, 2017 at 8:33 am

    This baby is one stubborn little toot. Went to hospital last night, contractions were 2 to 3 minutes apart, lasting 1.5 to 2 minutes, after 3 hours they sent her home because they said her cervix was staying the same.
    I just knew we were going to have a baby on the side of the road, with them saying “you’re in labor but it’s not hard enough to do anything.”
    She didn’t quite agree it wasn’t hard enough.

    She has been contracting all night, taking tylenol and hot baths and hot showers and is turning into quite the evil lady. I love her and realize she’s miserable, but I’m about to spank her butt.

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    • sandandsea2015 says:
      February 9, 2017 at 8:46 am

      I feel so bad for all of you. I’d be clouding up and raining all over the doctors and nurses. They don’t want to give her pitocin?

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      • stella says:
        February 9, 2017 at 9:10 am

        Probably because she hasn’t reached her due date yet.

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        • czarowniczy says:
          February 9, 2017 at 10:15 am

          Roger that, I can remember my ex in a hospital bed for over 24 hours sfter her water broke. They didn’t want to use pitocin as the baby was quite early and used alcohol to slow thongs down instead. Considering her attitude even the heavily LDS staff was considering the alcohol drips themselves.

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          • nyetneetot says:
            February 9, 2017 at 10:47 am

            I thought alcohol was used to speed thongs up….. or off… whichever.

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          • michellc says:
            February 9, 2017 at 11:23 am

            I’ve always heard it’s not safe to go longer than 24 hours after your water breaks. I never had that problem because they always had to break mine, but I know with my daughter her water broke before contractions with her son and they said at 16 hours they would try to speed things along if he wasn’t born yet. I think it was like 11 hours later when he was born.

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            • czarowniczy says:
              February 9, 2017 at 2:17 pm

              Ladt son was VERY early and docs were all atwitter about complications. As it was they decided to finally induce and it was still six hours and he spent about four weeks in kiddie ICU in an incubator as his lungs weren’t filly developed.

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        • michellc says:
          February 9, 2017 at 11:03 am

          That’s what she said, but I don’t know how they expect her to have contractions 2 to 3 minutes apart for days.

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          • auscitizenmom says:
            February 9, 2017 at 11:17 am

            Even a few minutes is too long. 😯

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            • michellc says:
              February 9, 2017 at 11:37 am

              She called the other doctor who is filling in for her doctor who is on vacation this morning and she’s supposed to consult with the doctor she is now seeing. She wants her to monitor the baby’s heartbeat to make sure the baby isn’t getting stressed. She was concerned that she is going on 16 hours now with contractions that close.
              The only problem with her is she doesn’t have privileges at this hospital and it’s two and half hours away to where she does have privileges.
              Her instructions are to check heartbeat between contractions and during contractions for 2 hours unless the baby’s heart beat drops below 120 or goes above 180 during contractions.

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          • stella says:
            February 9, 2017 at 12:16 pm

            Perhaps they will reverse the decision. Can you get a second opinion in the hospital where your daughter will have the baby?

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            • michellc says:
              February 9, 2017 at 3:41 pm

              We did the diary thing for the other doctor and although the baby’s heartbeat was staying in the safe range, she told her to come on in to the office.

              She checked her again and she was still at a 5, so she called her regular doctor who is on vacation and they offered her a shot that would ease the pain with the side effect that it might stop her contractions, but at least she could get some sleep and rest.
              She took the shot and is in my spare bedroom asleep.
              They both seem to agree that they just don’t think her body is really ready yet, but don’t want her or the baby so wore out that they’ll both be too tired when it is ready.
              Her doctor and the one filling in for her are now trying to work with the hospital for her to be able to take care of her in the hospital. Her doctor decided to not take as long of vacation because she has another patient with complications so she’ll be back in town tomorrow and if she makes it until then she will have her now calling the shots.

              She actually apologized to my daughter for giving her the option of the other doctor and for her doing nothing for her.

              I’m going to take a nap with the little man in case we have another long night.

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              • auscitizenmom says:
                February 9, 2017 at 3:58 pm

                I’ll try to be quiet so I don’t wake you. 🙂

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                • michellc says:
                  February 9, 2017 at 8:53 pm

                  I slept for over 2 hours, I rarely do that.
                  Little man’s Daddy got home from work and took him after he woke up.

                  My daughter got a really long nap in. She woke up and wasn’t having any contractions, so I guess the medicine did stop them, but they started back up again about 30 minutes ago. Although, they’re only 10 minutes apart and according to her hurt nothing like they were hurting and that she could do this for days with no problem. I joked with her and told her to just either shut them down or live with them for 5 more days and then I can have my Valentine’s granddaughter. lol

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                  • auscitizenmom says:
                    February 9, 2017 at 9:03 pm

                    Oh, I bet she loved that. 😯

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                  • michellc says:
                    February 9, 2017 at 9:11 pm

                    I’m just happy the evil daughter is gone. lol

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                  • auscitizenmom says:
                    February 9, 2017 at 9:30 pm

                    LOL

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                  • michellc says:
                    February 9, 2017 at 10:52 pm

                    Apparently tomorrow is a full moon, eclipse and comet, so everyone is telling her and that she will come tomorrow night. lol

                    She really doesn’t want her to be born on the 10th or 20th. I’ve heard that since she was first given a due date.

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                  • auscitizenmom says:
                    February 9, 2017 at 10:58 pm

                    Well, I guess we will soon know. O_o

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                  • michellc says:
                    February 9, 2017 at 11:04 pm

                    She thinks she’s never coming and that she’s going to be in labor forever. lol

                    I told her that with her for a solid week I went to the hospital every day and was told it was false labor. I was miserable and it hurt 10 times worse than it did when I finally had her. So that’s my hope for her, she’s doing all this suffering now, but when the day arrives it will be quick and easy.

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                  • auscitizenmom says:
                    February 9, 2017 at 11:22 pm

                    I can certainly understand her feeling that way after all this. Just make sure she knows we are all praying for her.

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      • michellc says:
        February 9, 2017 at 9:35 am

        No, they say unless her water breaks on it’s own or she’s at 40 weeks they won’t help her.

        I tried to get them to just insert progesterone cream to see if it would help and she(doctor) refused to do so because according to her she will not help you at 38 weeks.

        I begged her regular doctor’s office this morning to call her on vacation and beg her to come back.
        My daughter or I can’t stand this doctor she’s seeing now.
        Even the nurse last night disagreed with sending her home.

        I tried to talk my daughter into going to Tulsa last night, but she’s afraid they won’t see her and her insurance wouldn’t cover it.

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        • sandandsea2015 says:
          February 9, 2017 at 9:55 am

          Wow! That’s hard. It’s good you tried. Hopefully you will be holding that sweet baby girl in your arms soon and all of this will fade. Hang in there. I’d give you a huge hug if I could. 🤗

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          • michellc says:
            February 9, 2017 at 10:18 am

            She can’t go on like this, she didn’t get but maybe 30 minutes sleep all night, 5 minutes at a time.
            I’ve just spent 15 minutes trying to get her to go back this morning or let me take her to Tulsa.

            She’s tired, frustrated and in pain and says she’s not going anywhere unless her water breaks.

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        • auscitizenmom says:
          February 9, 2017 at 10:08 am

          Maybe we all need to pray that you go to the hospital and the baby comes right away, soon after you get there. I know this is hard.

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          • michellc says:
            February 9, 2017 at 10:23 am

            It angers me when I know they can help her and refuse to do so.
            It’s quite common for women to get to a certain point and stop dilating that’s why doctors break your water and have medications to help.

            Try to convince a hag doctor of that though who is convinced if the contractions were productive then she’d dilate farther. The stupid machine they have to monitor contractions clearly showed the contractions on the graph and the numbers, number wise they were consistently between 50 and 60, what you would expect for beginning of labor. Some women never get above that even at the end of labor. I know my niece never had hers to get above 40.

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            • auscitizenmom says:
              February 9, 2017 at 10:30 am

              Attitudes of the doctors and nurses are so important. When I had my son, I quit dilating and the head nurse came in and wanted to give me something to relax me. She said I quit because I was too tense……..in other words “my fault.” I finally gave in, but told her to only give me half because I am sensitive to medication. She only gave me half and I really relaxed…….then, she jammed the rest in and I passed out cold for several hours. Contractions stopped, too. I could have strangled her.

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              • michellc says:
                February 9, 2017 at 10:41 am

                The nurse last night was really good and she didn’t agree with the doctor.

                At least the daughter showed up this time, but I wish she hadn’t, the doctor on call was about to give her the progesterone cream until she showed up to save the day.

                I’m going to go to town and see if I can find a birthing ball and see if that will help get her to dilating. I don’t know what else to do.

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            • lovely says:
              February 9, 2017 at 11:44 am

              With my second child we tried for a v-bac after my first was born by c-section. For hours my contractions were off the chart. The nurses and attending doctors were checking my cervix and said it wasn’t time yet to call in my main doctor. Machines can only tell us so much.Contractions off the chart for hours and I was dilated to Two. I will never forget my doctor coming into the room checking my cervix and literally yelling, throwing his hands up over his head and getting the team together.

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        • lovely says:
          February 9, 2017 at 11:39 am

          I was in labor for several hours with my first I went to the hospital and they sent me home.

          I returned a few hours later and was in labor for another 36 hours and ended up having a c-section because my cervix did not dilate. I think your daughter has an advantage in that this is her second baby so she can likely expect a vaginal birth as her body has already worked correctly before.

          If it were me I would go back to the hospital and tell them that I feel like pushing (as I’m sure she does) if they still want to send her home I would demand a printed and signed letter that I was leaving against my own will and thought that the safest place for me and my baby was in the hospital. I would also demand that it be documented in my hospital records that I felt like pushing and that I thought the doctor should not be releasing me.

          OB malpractice insurance can run over 100,000 a year. Sometimes you have to talk the only language that they can hear.

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          • Menagerie says:
            February 9, 2017 at 12:17 pm

            I’m with you on that one. When mom starts pushing they jump and run. They ran me down the hall with the nurses and Chris screaming at me to stop pushing. It worked so well I did the same thing the next time. Great results for me, but whoee, it makes docs and nurses mad. However, when you are ignored for hours and they are content to let things go, pushing gets results.

            Undoubtedly it was a dumb thing to do, but I decided everyone there worked for me, I was boss, and I would decide when to do things. It was one of those labor stories you hear about women doing nuts things. I decided it was time and that was it.

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            • michellc says:
              February 9, 2017 at 3:28 pm

              I actually told her to do that when I was taking my turn walking around the hospital with her. I told her when she went back in to tell them she was going to start pushing. lol

              With my last one I stopped dilating and was having contractions on top of each other, they were pegging the machine out even freaking out my husband who knew I had never had contractions like these. I ripped the stuff off and went to the bathroom and pulled the little help string and when they came running told them I needed to push.
              They got me back in bed in a hurry and got the doctor in with him yelling for me not to push because I was not ready and then he decided he better break my water because I wouldn’t stop and then I started dilating again.

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              • stella says:
                February 9, 2017 at 3:36 pm

                They broke my water, and that did the trick. I only had one, and I went pretty fast.

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                • michellc says:
                  February 9, 2017 at 3:46 pm

                  I’m hoping this will be the end of the bad stuff for my daughter and when she wakes up if she’s still contracting it will then go quick.
                  At least now the hospital has instructions to call her regular doctor and not the other doctor and if it happens tonight even if they don’t allow the relief (LOL) doctor, she’ll be calling the shots and instructing whoever is on call at the hospital.

                  She told them today if they were even 5 minutes apart she could live with it, but 2 minute breaks she couldn’t take any longer.

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          • auscitizenmom says:
            February 9, 2017 at 12:20 pm

            I think that is good advice.

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    • Menagerie says:
      February 9, 2017 at 12:08 pm

      Praying for your daughter, the stubborn little gal, and all of your family. I hope things wind up soon for your poor daughter. I can sympathize.

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    • joshua says:
      February 9, 2017 at 4:08 pm

      our last one, after first one was 9 hours hard labor and THEN a Cesarean anyway….we had AT home with three seasoned midwives, next door neighbor a doctor and full hospital across the street….baby was born in the bathtub under water, lots of herbal stuff in water and nice candles….baby was perfect, pinked right up….no issues doing a VBAC delivery with NO pain killers…..result….I will NEVER physically challenge my wife in any way, nor should any Navy Seal take her on even…..tough lady, I never knew it….and she was 40 yo at the time. God manages all these deals.

      all our friends decided we were nuts. they are probably right. he is 25 now, and strong as an ox and smart as a whip….but heck, I am prejudiced.

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      • stella says:
        February 9, 2017 at 5:01 pm

        My daughter’s second one was born in a birthing center in a hospital, but attended by her midwife and doula. She also had a water birth, no drugs. There was pain, but it was a much better birth.

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        • auscitizenmom says:
          February 9, 2017 at 5:20 pm

          I remember back in ’72 when I worked in a small health food store, a man came in whose wife had her 6th child at home. The other 5 had been born in the hospital and each one had had a problem, one had an ear torn almost off when they used forceps, one developed an infection from the hospital, and the others had problems connected with the hospital. So, she had this one at home and they took the baby in the other room to clean it up and when they came back the mother was gone. They found her in the kitchen cooking a hamburger because she said she was starving. He said he was a nervous wreck, but she did really fine.

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      • auscitizenmom says:
        February 9, 2017 at 5:10 pm

        I admire your wife for being willing to do that at 40. I was 42 when my son was born.

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      • michellc says:
        February 9, 2017 at 7:59 pm

        My sisters have always given me a hard time because my longest labor was 8 hours, although 6 of it was extremely hard labor with no breaks, as soon as one ended the next one started. They each had really long labor, one sisters shortest labor was 10 hours and the other 12 hours, with their longest being 18 and 30 hours.

        I wanted to have my last one at home, but I went into premature labor that they stopped but I remained on a pill every 4 hours for weeks and still ended up having him early and it started with a lot of bleeding, so even if I had continued with that plan after premature labor the bleeding would have prevented it.

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    • Mr Snado says:
      February 9, 2017 at 10:30 pm

      Ah, my favorite, they call that time she’s going through *transition*. We have seven kids, I delivered three. Transition is when your loving bride turns into a combination of Dracula Darth Vader, and Godzilla… and that’s when she’s between contractions. It’s best to stay out of reach until that part’s over.

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  15. Wooly Phlox says:
    February 9, 2017 at 9:35 am

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  16. czarowniczy says:
    February 9, 2017 at 10:37 am

    That tornado that hit in New Orleans East smacked right into my old USDA building. NASA is upstaris with USDA on the bottom floor and both got whacked. Damsged nearly every car in the parking lot, blew out windows and scattered desks, chairs and paperwork all over the building. No one hurt.
    This is actually windfall for them, in the truest sense of the word as, like in Katrina, all sins of ommission, commission and ‘where the hell did I put that?’ are forgiven as thry can be blamed on the tornado. Tis truly an ill wind…

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    • Col.(R) Ken says:
      February 9, 2017 at 7:46 pm

      Just like the Army, vehicle fire……my question to a supply sgt, “how do fit a GP medium tent in a Hummv, Sir the tent was strapped to the roof” …….

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  17. Menagerie says:
    February 9, 2017 at 12:02 pm

    Stella, if I remember correctly, you have mentioned this man several times before. I thought you and others might be interested in his remarkable story. The man who own Domino’s Pizza, and is literally giving away all his money. He lives in a dorm room now. It’s about a six minute clip.

    http://legatus.org/millionaires-view

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  18. auscitizenmom says:
    February 9, 2017 at 12:17 pm

    StormyeyesC posted this next door. I hope it is OK to repost here. It is so good.

    The Coyote Principle

    CALIFORNIA
    · The Governor of California is jogging with his dog along a nature trail. A coyote jumps out and attacks the Governor’s dog, then bites the Governor.
    · The Governor starts to intervene, but reflects upon the movie “Bambi” and then realizes he should stop because the coyote is only doing what is natural.
    · He calls animal control. Animal Control captures the coyote and bills the state $200 testing it for diseases and $500 for relocating it.
    · He calls a veterinarian. The vet collects the dead dog and bills the State $200 testing it for diseases.
    · The Governor goes to hospital and spends $3,500 getting checked for diseases from the coyote and on getting his bite wound bandaged.
    · The running trail gets shut down for 6 months while Fish & Game conducts a $100,000 survey to make sure the area is now free of dangerous animals.
    · The Governor spends $50,000 in state funds implementing a “coyote awareness program” for residents of the area.
    · The State Legislature spends $2 million to study how to better treat rabies and how to permanently eradicate the disease throughout the world.
    · The Governor’s security agent is fired for not stopping the attack. The state spends $150,000 to hire and train a new agent with additional special training for the nature of coyotes.
    · PETA protests the coyote’s relocation and files a $5 million suit against the state.

    TEXAS
    · The Governor of Texas is jogging with his dog along a nature trail. A coyote jumps out and attacks his dog.
    · The Governor shoots the coyote with his state-issued pistol and keeps jogging. The Governor has spent $.50 on a .45 ACP hollow point cartridge.
    · The buzzards eat the dead coyote.

    And that, my friends, is why California is broke and Texas is not.

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  22. auscitizenmom says:
    February 9, 2017 at 1:34 pm

    This is a post by Jason next door. Wow! (sorry, didn’t know how to post a tweet copy)

    Ruh-Roh: Muslim Brothers, IT Workers Fired from Capitol Hill for Spying – Funneled Data to External Server (VIDEO)

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/02/three-muslim-brothers-professionals-fired-capitol-hill-spying-funneled-house-data-external-server-video/ …
    11:21 AM – 9 Feb 2017
    Photo published for Three Muslim Brothers, IT Professionals Fired from Capitol Hill for Spying – Funneled House Data to…
    Three Muslim Brothers, IT Professionals Fired from Capitol Hill for Spying – Funneled House Data to…

    Three brothers who managed office IT for government officials were relieved of their duties last week on suspicion that they …
    thegatewaypundit.com

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    • nyetneetot says:
      February 9, 2017 at 4:00 pm

      Sadly, this is not uncommon throughout the US in every business. I’ve seen approved service companies install hacked programs at client sites and all the customer data has been copied off to servers in other countries. I’ve watched financial data of half the US get on a jet and fly off to another country. And if you say anything, you will be the one out of work, not the spies.

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  23. stella says:
    February 9, 2017 at 1:36 pm

    Putting politics aside, I think this is a fine speech.

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    • lovely says:
      February 9, 2017 at 4:27 pm

      I know you said politics aside but I have given up my thoughts that these folks are ever of goodwill their actions never meet their words. Isn’t Rubio the same guy who talked about Trump’s small hands? Does it get any more petty and personal than that? Didn’t he and Jeb have a beyotch fight during one of the debates?

      Didn’t Rubio attack Tillerson on the floor for no apparent reason other than personal animus he has for President Trump? IMO Rubio demanded that Tillerson call Putin a war criminal and a murderer to try and make President Trump’s nominee look bad and Trump look bad because he hates Trump. He went so far as to ask Tillerson if Puitn murdered his political opponents. What could Rubio’s motives have been?

      In spite of that one might just look at the message and not the messenger until Rubio gets to the 6:55 mark.

      6:55 an indignant Rubio attacks Trump without naming him.

      Rubio can’t be attacking a fellow senator because he says with things that are going on everywhere else in politics and then goes on to lament people saying things over the last year and a half about “people, issues and institutions”. He is calling for the senate to be the voice of reason and conciliatory conduct?

      I’m speaking as much to myself here was anyone else and not trying to sound bitchy I just have a wall up against their garbage as my new motto with the Rubio types is “I won’t get fooled again.” I’ll have a shot of Drambuie with my side of cynicism.

      I do not trust a one of them Sam I Am.

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    • The Tundra PA says:
      February 9, 2017 at 8:01 pm

      I’m pretty much in lovely’s camp. Rubio is calculating right down to a gnat’s hiney. I don’t trust anything he says, after his behavior for the past 2 years. He’s young and will be around for a long time; with proper mentoring he may evolve into something decent. Right now he’s a tool. But that said, I can’t get the video to play. My internet connections get wonky on a fairly regular basis.

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  24. auscitizenmom says:
    February 9, 2017 at 1:55 pm

    I think President Trump is going to win over some, if not a lot, of Dems if he can get them to meet with him. Heidi Highcamp and Joe Manchin just came from a meeting with Pres. Trump and said they were quite pleased that he would help with some of their projects even though they weren’t on Pres. Trumps list. I got the feeling Ms. Highcamp was surprised. LOL

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  25. MaryfromMarin says:
    February 9, 2017 at 3:36 pm

    Prayer request:

    Please pray for little SALOME (3 years old–known by my daughter) who is having her foot amputated today due to complications/non-healing/deterioration from a broken leg. Prayers for successful surgery and quick recovery.

    Thank you– “…pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.” (James 5:16)

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  26. lovely says:
    February 9, 2017 at 5:30 pm

    Imagine if someone categorized black people in a similar fashion. It is truly mind boggling to me that the white liberals leading and instigating this race/culture war think that their whiteness is going to be seen as anything better than a Klansman’s whiteness when they have whipped the Soros minions into an uncontrollable frenzy.

    I really wonder what it is going to take for the the “ungovernable” to sustain one of their savage riots and bring it to the very people who think they are immune from what they have created. Some folks are in for an eye popping reality.

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  27. lovely says:
    February 9, 2017 at 6:27 pm

    Steve Bannon is a brilliant man. I can see why he terrifies the Left. (I believe this is from 2011).

    “The rage is about people realizing that they are paying for their children and their own destruction.” ___ Steve Bannon

    There’s no recession in the Hamptons there’s no recession in Georgetown. The other day the Washington Times reports 5 of the 7 wealthiest counties in the country are the suburbs around Washington DC. The per capita in Washington DC for the first time in history is greater than Silicone Valley. That is not a random event. What Sarah Palin..the reason I wanted to make the movie…. what Sarah Palin went up against the political class in Alaska and big oil because, it wasn’t that it was corrupt, there’s always going to be corruption, there’s always gonna be bad guys taking money. That’s human nature. Read Plutarch that happened back in Greece and Rome. We have something much worse. A compromised political class, crony capitalism and a permanent political class. It is quite simple. How does a guy go to Washington, basically making a $100,000 a year as a lawyer at some locality and at the end of 10 years on $165,000 and another $15,000 by federal money that the can make, having to basically keep two locations, how in 5 years is his net worth 5 million dollars and in 10 years some guys like Harry Reid’s net worth is $15 million dollars? That’s not even mathematics that’s just arithmetic.

    How does that work?

    Obama is just the harbinger if you don’t stand tall.

    Too much good stuff for me to post it all. Sad that Club for Growth became part of the problem.

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  28. Sharon says:
    February 9, 2017 at 7:09 pm

    Australia’s firsthand experience with the “renewable energy” market – not so good.

    http://joannenova.com.au/

    one excerpt:

    “It’s not just that renewables muck up the electricity supply (with frequency and instability issues), they also drive a pike through the energy market. These are two separate disruptors. We’ve seen inexplicable spikes in power prices in SA in seasons when it shouldn’t happen, but this might be a new form of volatility. Wind power produced 900MW earlier in the day, but that fell to below 100MW within 6 hours (which is not that usual, see the post yesterday for the graph). The problem, apparently, was that no one thought it was worth turning on their generators?”

    An understatement: Those who oppose a free and competitive market in goods and services ought not be making decisions at a regional or national level.

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  29. amwick says:
    February 9, 2017 at 7:11 pm

    That 9th circus has ruled against our President. I am disgusted..

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  30. stella says:
    February 9, 2017 at 7:41 pm

    MRI Shows Detailed Images of 20-Week Unborn Babies

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/02/09/mri-shows-detailed-images-of-20-week-unborn-babies/

    A newly developed MRI scan allows parents to see detailed images of the beating heart of even a 20-week unborn baby, as well as clear pictures of the baby stretching its legs and even swallowing in the womb.

    The new scan, developed by a London-based team of medical researchers, could replace the somewhat grainy ultrasound images parents are more accustomed to viewing during pregnancy.

    UK video parenting site ChannelMum is sharing the video, created by the iFind project, which shows an MRI scan of a baby at 20 weeks. Cathy Ranson, who edits the site, says, “Scans are amazing as they help mums, dads and even other family members bond with their baby.”

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  31. stella says:
    February 9, 2017 at 8:02 pm

    This answers our question about the new Senator from Alabama:

    Alabama AG sworn in to replace Jeff Sessions

    Republican Luther Strange, Alabama’s attorney general, was sworn in on Thursday to fill the Senate seat left empty by Jeff Sessions, tapped by President Donald Trump to be the nation’s top law enforcement officer.

    Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, administered the oath to Strange, a well-connected Republican and former Washington lobbyist. Attorney General Sessions and Sen. Richard Shelby of Alabama were at Strange’s side in the well of the Senate, and applause filled the chamber after the oath.

    Strange joins the Senate after Sessions’ confirmation as U.S. attorney general Wednesday night. The 63-year-old lawyer has been the state’s attorney general since 2011. His selection caps two months of jockeying and political guessing games over who would get the nod from Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley.

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  32. WeeWeed says:
    February 9, 2017 at 8:07 pm

    I’m watching a movie. “Giant.” And being basically stupid, I just realized it was a SJW movie released about the time I learned to walk.

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    • texan59 says:
      February 9, 2017 at 8:13 pm

      Aww, come on now. Hollyweird would not’a done that back then. That was about ruffian Texan’s and the oil bidness. Now yer gonna make me have to go rent that and watch it again. With my beer goggles on. :/ 🙄

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    • czarowniczy says:
      February 9, 2017 at 9:11 pm

      I was watching the originsl Gigi, Louis Jordan, Leslie Caron and Maurice Chevalier. I wonder how Maurice’s ‘Thank Heaven for Little Girls’ song would be viewed by the public today were he to release it?

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      • Menagerie says:
        February 9, 2017 at 11:01 pm

        I saw on Facebook where some idiot woman went on a rant about daddy/daughter dances being awful for little girls. Didn’t bother to read the idiocy.

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        • Sharon says:
          February 9, 2017 at 11:14 pm

          My sons send their daughters roses on their birthdays until they are married. I suppose that would be considered awful, too.

          Their reason for doing it is so that the girls have high expectations about how a man should treat them.

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          • auscitizenmom says:
            February 9, 2017 at 11:30 pm

            How wonderful. My son was lucky my father was around so much when he was growing up. He saw how my father treated my mother. That was good because his father and I did not have a good marriage. But, I notice how my son treats his wife. Lucky girl. But, he is also a lucky guy. He picked a peach.

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        • czarowniczy says:
          February 9, 2017 at 11:43 pm

          Wasn’t Rosie O’Donnell’s Facebook page, was it?

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    • Col.(R) Ken says:
      February 9, 2017 at 11:00 pm

      Yes Ms.WeeWeed you are correct! Oil was just a side show, old Texas was land and cattle. Remember Liz going down too those houses where the Mexicans lived. They were employees of the ranch….Now remember the Christmas scene when Sal come over in His Army Uniform. Then the Son in law goes off the war comes home Big parade, Sal comes home, casket, and then his Son marries a Mexican nurse, then the fight in Sarge’s restaurant, and the ending, both babies in the crib……
      Yes, SJW movie………

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  33. czarowniczy says:
    February 9, 2017 at 9:18 pm

    New ‘Nightwatch’ on A&E featuring NOPD. Funny, first case is a cruiser being dispatched to a shooting in one of the rebuilt/renamed projects. Responding is a rather ‘fluffy’ EMT flanked by two of our world-famous ‘fluffy’ police officers. I see they’re still benefitting from the free food offerings.

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  34. texan59 says:
    February 9, 2017 at 10:57 pm

    Some thoughts on Trump’s chess game. Good quick read. Sounds about right to me.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-09/trumps-game-chess

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  35. Wooly Phlox says:
    February 9, 2017 at 11:58 pm

    Thread-ender.

    I think it’s amazing that there exists a whole culture that hates the clitoris.

    Even more amazing is that most of the people here who absolutely worship it want to import these people.

    I wonder if all those Puddy hats… never mind.

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