General Discussion, Tuesday, November 29, 2016

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  1. texan59 says:

    It’s Monday for me. Made it through the holiday with no arguments, or anyone gettin’ in a fight. Pretty good holiday. Coffee up y’all. πŸ˜‰

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  2. MaryfromMarin says:

    A very good, pragmatic article on educating people about Islam [Citizen Warrior is a site well worth following, IMO]:

    Make Them Contagious

    http://www.citizenwarrior.com/2016/11/make-them-contagious.html

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    • czarowniczy says:

      Seems there are raging brush fires in Israel and videos of what are most likely Islamics setting them. I remember back in early 2002 we had internal bulletins circulating talking about how Islamic terrorists (pre-Obama days) could raisevnibe kibds of hell here setting fires in dry areas. Just sayin’…

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      • Col(R) Ken says:

        New Mexico, or Arizona few years back had multitable fire going……. can’t remember how that all started.
        Easy morning in a bit, rain, warm weather, this means the bucks will stay put unless kicked out…… the LL Bean crowd will roll in Thursday/Friday for the weekend……. another log on the fire…… and the alarm is set……

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  3. czarowniczy says:

    Hey guys and gals…or however you want to self-identify…looks like now that our Moslem apologist is leaving the public teat the gloves are off: http://www.clarionproject.org/analysis/american-islamist-group-preps-jihad-against-trump

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  4. ImpeachEmAll says:

    A bit of a chill in the air.

    Time for another log on the fire…

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  5. ImpeachEmAll says:

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  6. nyetneetot says:

    Mornin’ stella! (Smiter of those that ought to be smote) 😎 🍸 (Long Island Iced Tea)
    Mornin’ WeeWeed! (Master Mixologist Extrodinare) 😎 🍸 (Old Fashioned)
    Mornin’ Menagerie! 😎 |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| (Jack Daniels – Single Barrel )
    Mornin’ Ad rem! (Queen Felis catus) 🐱 🍸 (Flaming Lamborghini)
    Mornin’ Sharon! 😎 🍸 (earthquake)
    Mornin’ ytz4mee! 😎 🍸 (cosmopolitan)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (white wine and perrier)
    Mornin’ partyzantski! πŸ™‚ |_| (Tom Collins)
    Mornin’ texan59! πŸ™‚ |_| (Black & Tan)
    Mornin’ ZurichMike! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (fuzzy navel)
    Mornin’ Col.(R) Ken! (hand salute) πŸ™‚ |_| (Boilermaker)
    Mornin’ Czarina! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Lynchburg Lemonade)
    Mornin’ czarowniczy! πŸ™‚ |_| (Wild Turkey Rare Breed)
    Mornin’ letjusticeprevail2014! πŸ™‚ |_| (Irish Car Bomb)
    Mornin’ Patriot1783-ctdar! (aka “ctdar”) πŸ™‚ 🍸 (grasshopper)
    Mornin’ tessa50! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (flaming volcano)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (sidecar)
    Mornin’ varsityward! πŸ™‚ |_| (Godfather)
    Mornin’ MaryfromMarin! πŸ˜€ |_| (Mortlach)
    Mornin’ Wooly Phlox! (aka “taqiyyologist”) πŸ™‚ |_| (Roy Rogers)
    Mornin’ Howie! πŸ™‚ |_| (Classic Daiquiri)
    Mornin’ TwoLaine! πŸ™‚ |_| (Gin & Tonic)
    Mornin’ Sha! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Lemon Drop)
    Mornin’ BigMamaTEA! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Harvey Wallbanger)
    Mornin’ cetera5! (aka “Cetera”) πŸ™‚ |_| (Blackberry wine)
    Mornin’ The Tundra PA! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (bailey irish cream on the rocks)
    Mornin’ lovely! πŸ™‚ |_| (Backdraft)
    Mornin’ michellc! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Salty dog)
    Mornin’ auscitizenmom! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Kiss on the Lips)
    Mornin’ Margaret-Ann! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (White Russian)
    Mornin’ Auntie Lib! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Tom and Jerry)
    Mornin’ holly100! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Jack & Coke)
    Mornin’ Pam! πŸ™‚ (Not even water)
    Mornin’ Ms.Tee! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Mojito)
    Mornin’ koolkosherkitchen! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Cuba Libre)
    Mornin’ ImpeachEmAll πŸ™‚ |_| (Flaming Dr. Pepper)
    Mornin’ Monroe! πŸ™‚ |_| (Stinger)
    Mornin’ Les! πŸ™‚ |_| (Rusty Nail)
    Mornin’ shiloh1973! πŸ™‚ |_| (Jack Daniels)
    Mornin’ TexasRanger! πŸ™‚ |_| (Whiskey Smash)
    Mornin’ Ziiggii! πŸ™‚ |_| (B52)
    Mornin’ oldiadguy! πŸ™‚ |_| (Rum & Coke)
    Mornin’ smiley! (“stuck in spambucket”) πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Spanish coffee)
    Mornin’ derk! (β€œStellars”) πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Mudslide)
    Mornin’ Jacqueline Taylor Robson πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Shirley Temple)
    Mornin’ facebkwallflower! πŸ™‚ |_| (Night Train Express)
    Mornin’ Ms. Cindy! (aka “Ms Cynlynn” aka “ms cynlynn”) πŸ™‚ 🍸 (1970 ducru beaucaillou)
    Mornin’ sandandsea2015! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (1961 ChΓ’teau Montrose)
    Mornin’ amwick! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Blue motorcycle)
    Mornin’ hocuspocus13! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (1970 Chateau Latour)
    Mornin’ Sloth1963! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (1971 Moulin Touchais)
    Mornin’ MTeresa! (Ex-lurker) πŸ™‚ |_| (Albanian Raki Moskat)
    Mornin’ Rhea Salacia Volans! πŸ™‚ |_| (Hot Buttered Rum)
    Mornin’ joshua! πŸ™‚ |_| (Hot Buttered Rum)
    Mornin’ whiners and complainers! πŸ˜› (No drink for you!)
    Mornin’ to people posting that I missed. 😳
    Mornin’ to all you lurkers! πŸ˜•

    Also just in case someday; mornin’ to Elvis Chupacabra, F.D.R. in Hell and sundance! :mrgreen:

    Breakfast!

    NEW and IMPROVED breakfast with extra bacon for ZurichMike!

    Apple Coffee Cake with Crumble Topping and Brown Sugar Glaze!

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  7. derk says:

    Good morning Stella and all you widely spread about people,
    That’s some diversity right there!

    Beautiful picture once again Stella, enjoy the beauty you share each day. Thanks!

    ?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

    Great day to all of you as you go about your ways in this great country. =D

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  8. derk says:

    Okay, that one doesn’t pop up, trying this one instead,

    Fingers crossed

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    • Col(R) Ken says:

      That should be enough, and those big crocodile tears these liberals are shedding should fill the moat. And don’t forget the 100,000 volt live wire to charge the water, use solar power, wind generators…..should keep the greens busy……

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  9. WeeWeed says:

    ‘Tis the season! Mornin’ kids!

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  10. derk says:

    Taken off of Lame Cherry this morning, listing all 257! Federal Agencies. or at least, that is a good guess as to how many there actually are.

    https://cei.org/blog/nobody-knows-how-many-federal-agencies-exist

    Boggles my boondoggle.

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    • derk says:

      Somedays, I want to just take the Purple pill. Hard to actually really realize all that is truly going on. So maybe a slow release type capsule?

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      • joshua says:

        acid reflux…..God’s messenger to us hypers with high blood pressure….He doesn’t need to email us when he has our own body chemistry to get the message through.

        I think he is maybe sending Hillary a few high powered messages right now….

        He’s the Boss.

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    • John Denney says:

      My wife was talking to a guy who runs a mortuary, and he said he has to comply with regulations from 27 different government agencies.

      Makes me think of the complaint about the King in the Declaration of Independence, how he sent swarms of bureaucrats to “eat out our substance”.

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      • joshua says:

        well…mortuaries have the task of preserving future Democrat election votes now…not so easy as a block of ice followed by a pine box.

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    • texan59 says:

      He!!, that ain’t even close. The spooks got that many agencies. πŸ˜† πŸ˜†

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  11. WeeWeed says:

    Live coverage on the total destruction of Gatlinburg.

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  12. lovely says:

    Today is the day. Either Hillary of Jill has to fork over 3.3 million dollars to WI if they want the recount to start on Thursday. My understanding is that the legal presentation is for a recount when in actuality they want to do a recount and an audit. Last I heard Jill is headed to court because she still wants to dictate the way the votes are counted for every county.

    KMA Jillary.

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    • czarowniczy says:

      Yeah, keep the rifle close and clean as this could spark a huge Constitutional mess that the Rat garbage could exploit.
      The Spoilers don’t like the conditions of the count they go to Court. Whoever loses appeals, right on up to the SCotUS. We have the Electoral College confirm Trump and the inauguration – what other option is there?
      Trump’s in office and the recount issue reaches the SCotUS…it’s 4/4, split twixt left and right. Can Trump nominate a Justice without getting into ‘conflict of interest’ problems, another court case? Will Obama/Ayers activists take violent protest to the streets?
      Oh to live in interesting times.

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    • Pam says:

      Late yesterday, some Dem strategists and spokesmen came out criticizing this effort and attempting to distance Clinton from this mess:

      http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-28/angry-dems-dismiss-steins-recount-effort-its-waste-time-and-money

      Then some Green Party bigwigs signed an open letter which states in part: “we do not support the current recount being undertaken by Jill Stein.”

      http://www.flowersforsenate.org/greens_speak_out_recount

      This whole thing has been bizarre. I just saw that Stein tweeted at 8:45 this morning:

      “Yesterday, we found out Wisconsin will charge us $3.5M, an outrageous increase from the initial estimate of $1.1M…”

      Is this just grinching or a possible sign of retreat? When her people filed a lawsuit in PA yesterday, and a lawsuit in WI, apart from the initial recount petition efforts, it seemed to indicate that she was willing to spend those $$ she had collected.

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  13. czarowniczy says:

    Jimmy Carter is now demanding that we take the lead in establishing and recognizing a Palestinian state. Must be getting old and soft as I’m sorta agreeing with him. My take is that we establish it about 300 miles west of the Azores…tread water folks, tread water.

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  14. amwick says:

    We are doing our turkey today. It always seems like a huge process, for half hour of eating…
    I am off to find a roasting pan better than the throw away ones that I have… oh well. I am so worried about Gatlinburg, its hard to explain. Commercial, corny, but fun,,, and right at the beginning of the beautiful Smokey Mountain National Park. It used to be beautiful… oh sht.

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    • WeeWeed says:

      I know. When we lived in Nashville we were over there at every opportunity. My heart hurts for them.

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      • czarowniczy says:

        I was in Murfreesboro back when Sewart AFB was still active, and I was still active enough to enjoy the bar hopping there. Tennessee would have been a nice place to retire, then there’s that disqualifying ‘cold weather ‘ thing. Here’s praying the rain we’re getting is enough to bring the fires under control.

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  15. lovely says:

    Petraeus is visiting with Trump again today. Remember that Petraeus has been convicted of a federal crime.

    I smell the ultimate troll movement to date coming from Trump.

    If Trump appoints Petraeus to a federal position, federal law prohibits Petraeus from holding that position due to his conviction, which means that Trump would have to pardon Petraeus once he becomes POTUS.

    Imagine the MSM meltdown. How much can the MSM bellyache about a Petraeus pardon when all Trump will do is say “Comey pre-emptively pardoned Hillary Clinton for doing a million times worse than Petraeus, if you have a problem with Petraeus you should have had a far greater problem with Hillary. Petraeus admitted his wrong doing, paid his dues and can be if great use to our country.”

    😎

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    • stella says:

      That’s interesting. I read that it was not a felony that he was convicted of. I’ll look into it later.

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    • My concern is that Petraeus was working with astronaut Mark Kelly, husband of Gabby Giffords, to launch a gun control group in July called Veterans Coalition for Common Sense.

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    • Col(R) Ken says:

      Interesting…….

      Like

      • lovely says:

        Hard story to read.

        I hesitate to even offer an opinion but 3 things stand out to me, most people never believe that their loved one committed suicide if there is any possibility of escaping that thought, most suicides don’t leave notes, that Ted left such a heart wrenching letter behind shows a man trapped in corner who saw no way out, a typical place where sducidal people find themselves.

        People always romanticize people who commit suicide. I have no doubt that Ted was everything his wife and friends remember him to be and from is words and profession it sounds like he was rather brilliant and insightful.

        If there had been as dark of secrets that Ted was aware of I would guess that he would have sent proof of it to someone. But that is just my opinion from reading one brief article and with a suicidal mind, all bets are off on their normal character winning out over the darkness.

        That said Ted did not seem like the type of guy to end his life and let it be for nothing. I’m sure bad things were happening, I’m sure his mind was not right since he believed his children and his wife would have a better life if he was dead. How much of that was in his own words “I trust no Iraqi” a realization that we were not there for the reasons he thought we were there and we were likely training people who would one day try and kill us, I don’t know.

        How is Petraeus tied into the entire thing? Again, I’m not going to offer an opinion because I have none.

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        • Patriot1783 says:

          I find it interesting and unsettling that not only did Westhusing serve under Petreaus, his suicide note was addressed to him:
          “In Iraq, Westhusing worked under two generals: Maj. Gen. Joseph Fil, and Petraeus, then a lieutenant general. But Bryce continued: β€œBy late May, Westhusing was becoming despondent over what he was seeing.” When his body was found, a note was found nearby addressed to Petraeus and Fil.”

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          • lovely says:

            I agree it is disturbing but what it means I don’t know. A Suicidal mind is not a rational mind, if, Westhusing witnessed atrocities outside the normal wretchedness of war a clear minded Westhusing would have left some documentation of that that he knew would get to the right places.

            The exposure of Gitmo happened a little over a year before Westhusing’s suicide so he knew what media exposure would do, again if he was in his rational mind.

            For me the last line of Westhusings goodbye is as important as who addressed it to (and who he didn’t address it to is alas an insight, but that is another discussion).

            You are not what you think you are and I know it.

            What does that mean?

            It sounds to me again that Westhusing was exceptionally bright and insightful, it sounds to me that he realized that we were arming our enemies, β€œI trust no Iraqi” and that he had insight and he believed empirical knowledge I cannot support a msn that leads to corruption, human right abuses and liars. I am sulliedβ€”no more. I didn’t volunteer to support corrupt, money grubbing contractors, nor work for commanders only interested in themselves. of egregious actions, crimes agains humanity, commanders putting career before the rank and file, war profiteers.

            I simply have no way of knowing what was true and what was an exaggeration in Westhusing’s mind because he came into a war as a philosophy teacher who may have believed war and the absurdity of war could some how be made clean through philosophy. The walls of academia rarely produce rational thinkers, thinkers whose world view carries them well in real life situations, my guess is that he idealized his mission but that is pure speculation.

            I’m not defending anyone or their actions I just don’t have the facts.

            *Just did a quick check and Westhusing was exceptionally bright, he was selected as honor guard and he graduated 3rd in his class at West Point. Thanks for bringing this story to my attention I’m going to delve into it some, depressing as it is.

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  16. czarowniczy says:

    Went outside for a bit, checking to see if rabbit repellant was actually a repellant or a condiment. The wind’s directly out of the south at about 15 mph, giving us the steady white noise of wind blowing through hundreds of acres of pines. Rain last night raised the humidity, saturating the air with the smell of the pines our neighbor thinned. Great day to be out there.

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  17. Pam says:

    Some Repubs in Congress are making noise about repealing Obamacare in the first 100 days. Think maybe it’s real this time? The best part was one of them saying they were going to do it using the process of reconciliation. LOL!

    If they do it and if I were physically able, I’d get out my tattered Don’t Tread on Me flag and make the trip back to DC just to stand right where I was standing the day before Pelosi carried that huge gavel through the crowds with that smirk on her face.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-11-29/gop-eyes-lightning-strike-on-obamacare-to-kick-off-trump-era

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  18. joshua says:

    I have to say that Stella’s Place is so nice, friendly, calm, and adult…CTH has been invaded lately…I always go there…but wind up tense and irritated a lot….so thanks for this place to come for civilized America lovers and friends.

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    • MaryfromMarin says:

      I limit primarily to the Open Thread. Generally the first page of. (How’s that for a nice, friendly, calm, adult sentence fragment? lol)

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  19. czarowniczy says:

    Merry Christmas, Moslem Fundamentalists, where can we deliver those 72 virgins?

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    • czarowniczy says:

      Just finished watching a piece on the news about our Somali refugee who plowed into and sliced those OSU students yesterday. They were going on about his social media posts ‘just moments before his rampage’. He went on about crimes against Moslems, how he can’t take it any more, usual Shiite, and then to show that Moslems are peace loving and misrepresented, went out and put nine people in the hospital and one in the grave.
      Ohio and Federal authorities are investigating to see if the incident might be connected to terrorism.
      Sure as hell hope that Trump goes after that pusillanimous Federal thesaurus with an ax.

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    • ImpeachEmAll says:

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      • Wooly Phlox says:

        An Israeli friend of mine swears that when he was in the IDF, they had much evidence that suicide bombers wear steel underwear. He swears by this.

        We beat the Axis with two bombs.

        A fat man and a little boy would even be apropos, now.

        It’s a cube in the desert, ferchrissakes. And Tehran. Just two great big bottled-sunshine instances.

        Thirty years hence, the Middle East will be producing the best animation in the world.

        We KNOW this. It’s been DONE! It freakin’ WORKS!

        SCIENCE!

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    • MaryfromMarin says:

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  20. lovely says:

    Quick grab yer’ wallets and send Jillary some Benjamin’s!

    What a moron, you’re playing with the big boys now Jill. Hillary spends that on her wardrobe get a few more nickels from her.

    πŸ˜‚

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  21. lovely says:

    The satanic Left continues to reveal itself.

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  22. amwick says:

    Good news from Northern Georgia, the fire fighters are leaving our Valley to go up towards Gatlinburg. AΓ±nnΓ±Γ±nnΓ±d they had rain up there. It’s all good. But those poor people in Tennessee.

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  23. czarowniczy says:

    After the city of New Orleans was once again embarrassed by the wekend shooting in tne French Quarter the mayor and Chief of Police have announced sweeping changes to make it safer. Unanswered is the question of why they didn’t make these changes earlier as they are delf-proclaimed experts in the field, this is a decades-old problem and they’re paid to be prosctive in these sreas.
    Of note is their plan to inconvenience everyone equally, implementing a sealed 6-7 block area of Bourbon street, controlling access thru entry points, having metal detectors and forbidding guns inside the safe zone…Beale Street south.
    Obe suggestion not tendered is calling it like it is…stop all males under 21 being on the street unless accompanied by a parent. If a person’s caught falsely posing as a parent said faker gets a large fine AND jail time. Bars on Bourbon should get a huge fine every time they are caught not carding drinkers…the entire Quarter’s infamous for catering to underage drinkers. This ain’t ever gonna happen though.
    Most controversial is the suggestion to use crime analysis techniques to find the profile of the most frequent shooter in the Quarter and Terry-stop everyone of those inside the Quarter to search for weapons. That ain’t gonna happen either and you know why.
    So right now the TSA model, irriate the hell out of everyone just to be PC, is the most likely scenario. Never can tell when that 65 year old nun just out sightseeing might be packing heat; who knows, she might even enjoy an impromptu patdown.

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    • texan59 says:

      But by gawd, you still can’t smoke there. At least they’re protectin’ y’allz from evil people like me. πŸ‘Ώ 😈

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      • czarowniczy says:

        Yeah, tobacco can killya, that’s why they’re movin’ hard to do a ‘Denver’ and decriminalize smokin’ dope in the Quarter, if not the city. 24/7 no-holds-barred booze sales, underage kids, black thugs, legally smoking dope, the city turning a blind eye to the goings on…what could possibly go wrong?

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        • texan59 says:

          Went to the Quarter about two years ago, for likely the last time. Worked a lot of years in BR and NOLA and spent countless hours eating AND drinking my way around the place and got the chance to take Mrs. T. She loved the heck out’a the place, but I’m not near as young and mobile as I like to think I might be. Makes me sad that they’ll let it turn into a complete sh*thole deathtrap likely. 😦

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  24. ImpeachEmAll says:

    Have patience; it’s a slow process…

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  25. Wooly Phlox says:

    My disk-jockeying tonight. Great band, so dynamic.

    Liked by 1 person

    • lovely says:

      One of my all time favorites!

      Funny story. I was once doing some work in a school building and I thought that I was alone so I brought my iPhone an iPhone station and was listening to Fun, the music was loud, I went to do something and I saw an open door so I went to see why it was open and there was someone else working.

      I was like, “I’m so sorry! I thought I was alone. I’ll turn my music down.”

      She responded “Oh , it’s ok have your fun.”

      This is when they were relatively new and I said “You’re a Fun fan?”

      She looked confused and then I realized she literally meant “have fun.” I told her it was the name of the band I was listening to and we both had a good laugh.

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  26. Wooly Phlox says:

    Make America Great Again.

    This is Western Civilization.

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  27. texan59 says:

    Soooooo, this is a real thing. “Adulting classes” for the millenials. It’s rather sad when you think about it.

    http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/11/should-you-enroll-in-adulting-school.html

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