General Discussion, Tuesday, October 4, 2016

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  1. Col (R) Ken says:

    Before I hit the rack, just wanted to say Morning Everyone!!!!!!!

    Liked by 8 people

    • The Tundra PA says:

      Colonel, how in the world do you stay up past midnight and then get up at 3:30 and do hard physical labor for hours?? There’s not enough coffee in the world to make that happen day after day.

      Liked by 1 person

      • ImpeachEmAll says:

        Do not know; however,
        the VA has been known
        to provide good meds. πŸ˜‰

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      • Col (R) Ken says:

        I just call it a work eithic. Now, I do a take a power nap or a day off after barn detail. My life as a soldier, was with the “Troops”. Once in a great while, had to take a punch your ticket assignment. IG, D- OPS J3. When the Assignment Officer would call, the conversation was this: “Go to the Pentagon or how about Commander of X Battalion they are scheduled to go Bosnia…….My Heart and Soul was with the “The Troops”.
        Yes Impeach, the VA has good meds, never received any from them……..Coffee, good word from the Book, then go about my day…….

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  2. texan59 says:

    Coffee up y’all. Almost to Wednesday. πŸ˜†

    Liked by 5 people

  3. Cetera says:

    Morning, all. Still another 5+ hours to go until I’m off work. Hopefully we’ll have some good news today.

    Liked by 3 people

  4. MaryfromMarin says:

    “I rise today with the power of God to pilot me, God’s strength to sustain me, God’s wisdom to guide me…”
    —St. Patrick’s Breastplate—

    Liked by 5 people

  5. MaryfromMarin says:

    “True faith is not a leap into the dark; it’s a leap into the light.”
    —Eric Metaxas—

    Liked by 7 people

  6. MaryfromMarin says:

    “My flesh and my heart may fail, but God is the strength of my heart and my portion for ever.”
    —Psalm 73:26—

    Liked by 4 people

  7. nyetneetot says:

    “Jesus wept”
    –John 11:35–

    Liked by 2 people

  8. nyetneetot says:

    “Oh @&%$!!”
    —Dennis the Menace – Television show out takes—

    Liked by 2 people

  9. Cetera says:

    Boy, that Julian Assange guy sure knows how to throw a party in Germany, eh?

    Liked by 4 people

  10. amwick says:

    So I lost internet access… The internet was there, but my own DSL modem/router blocked every device I had.. This is really troubling because I have no idea how that happened. arrrrrrrrrrgh!

    Liked by 4 people

    • shiloh1973 says:

      Was just reading at the neighbors and it looks like there was a very widespread internet outage across the US. Things that make you go Hmm.

      Liked by 2 people

      • nyetneetot says:

        I went and read the post next door. I have not been involved with nation infrastructure directly, but am aware of a few parts.
        Speaking in overly general terms, there are proxy servers in the US that internet traffic gets routed through to help speed things up especially when viewing websites outside of the US.
        Lets say you go to a website with lots of graphics like the DailyMail. You are looking at a copy that is only a few minutes old. if you click a link to a story that nobody else has viewed, you will see data directly from the dailymail.server, but everyone after you will see your copy. The page will be refreshed after some set amount of time.
        These proxy servers can also function as an “Internet kill switch” and is one of the places that traffic can be intercepted and copied to get all that meta data we’ve heard so much about in the past.
        Again, this is just overly generalized because there are lots of different entities involved and methods of hooking things together differ from one to another.

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    • nyetneetot says:

      Maybe your DSL modem/router had a forced software/firmware update, or your DHCP lease expired and it didn’t handle the change well. Was the outage under a half hour? If so, it might just have been that.

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      • amwick says:

        Well, it has to be something techie…. I don’t know how long it was because I noticed it first thing in the morning… all I know is that you can block access to things lit FTP and Email and web,,,, you configure that for all devices… I don’t know how that would have been done from the outside. I would still be scratching if I hadn’t gone to the router page and started snooping… live and learn.

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      • Col (R) Ken says:

        Mine was connectivity. Had to climb the pole, clean the cable connection then cove the box. Outside cable was leaking……

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  11. shiloh1973 says:

    Ground report from Eastern Washington. I was at our local mini mart yesterday talking to one of our local deputies. I told him I had a Trump/Pence sign in my yard now, so if he hears a report of shots fired in Rocklyn, don’t worry it is just me protecting my sign. He laughed and said any time he hears shots fired in Rocklyn he thinks of me! He said he travels this entire county and has yet to see any Hillary signs, but a lot of Trump signs. Washington State may go Hillary, but it won’t be our fault.

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  12. nyetneetot says:

    Mornin’ stella! (Smiter of those that ought to be smote) 😎 🍸 (Long Island Iced Tea)
    Mornin’ WeeWeed! (Master Mixologist Extrodinare) 😎 🍸 (Old Fashioned)
    Mornin’ Menagerie! 😎 |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| (Jack Daniels – Single Barrel )
    Mornin’ Ad rem! (Queen Felis catus) 🐱 🍸 (Flaming Lamborghini)
    Mornin’ Sharon! 😎 🍸 (earthquake)
    Mornin’ ytz4mee! 😎 🍸 (cosmopolitan)
    Mornin’ partyzantski! πŸ™‚ |_| (Tom Collins)
    Mornin’ texan59! πŸ™‚ |_| (Black & Tan)
    Mornin’ ZurichMike! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (fuzzy navel)
    Mornin’ Col.(R) Ken! (hand salute) πŸ™‚ |_| (Boilermaker)
    Mornin’ czarowniczy! πŸ™‚ |_| ( and Czarina πŸ™‚ 🍸 )
    Mornin’ letjusticeprevail2014! πŸ™‚ |_| (Irish Car Bomb)
    Mornin’ Patriot1783-ctdar! (aka “ctdar”) πŸ™‚ 🍸 (grasshopper)
    Mornin’ tessa50! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (flaming volcano)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (sidecar)
    Mornin’ varsityward! πŸ™‚ |_| (Godfather)
    Mornin’ MaryfromMarin! πŸ˜€ |_| (Mortlach)
    Mornin’ Wooly Phlox! (aka “taqiyyologist”) πŸ™‚ |_| (Roy Rogers)
    Mornin’ Howie! πŸ™‚ |_| (Classic Daiquiri)
    Mornin’ TwoLaine! πŸ™‚ |_| (Gin & Tonic)
    Mornin’ Sha! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Lemon Drop)
    Mornin’ BigMamaTEA! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Harvey Wallbanger)
    Mornin’ cetera5! (aka “Cetera”) πŸ™‚ |_| (Blackberry wine)
    Mornin’ The Tundra PA! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (bailey irish cream on the rocks)
    Mornin’ lovely! πŸ™‚ |_| (Backdraft)
    Mornin’ michellc! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Salty dog)
    Mornin’ auscitizenmom! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Kiss on the Lips)
    Mornin’ Margaret-Ann! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (White Russian)
    Mornin’ Auntie Lib! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Tom and Jerry)
    Mornin’ holly100! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Jack & Coke)
    Mornin’ Pam! πŸ™‚ (Not even water)
    Mornin’ ImpeachEmAll πŸ™‚ |_| (Flaming Dr. Pepper)
    Mornin’ Monroe! πŸ™‚ |_| (Stinger)
    Mornin’ Les! πŸ™‚ |_| (Rusty Nail)
    Mornin’ shiloh1973! πŸ™‚ |_| (Jack Daniels)
    Mornin’ TexasRanger! πŸ™‚ |_| (Whiskey Smash)
    Mornin’ Ziiggii! πŸ™‚ |_| (B52)
    Mornin’ oldiadguy! πŸ™‚ |_| (Rum & Coke)
    Mornin’ smiley! (“stuck in spambucket”) πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Spanish coffee)
    Mornin’ derk! (β€œStellars”) πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Mudslide)
    Mornin’ Jacqueline Taylor Robson πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Shirley Temple)
    Mornin’ facebkwallflower! πŸ™‚ |_| (Night Train Express)
    Mornin’ Ms. Cindy! (aka “Ms Cynlynn” aka “ms cynlynn”) πŸ™‚ 🍸 (1970 ducru beaucaillou)
    Mornin’ sandandsea2015! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (1961 ChΓ’teau Montrose)
    Mornin’ amwick! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (1971 Moulin Touchais)
    Mornin’ hocuspocus13! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (1970 Chateau Latour)
    Mornin’ Sloth1963! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (2008 ChΓ’teau Haut Brion)
    Mornin’ whiners and complainers! πŸ˜› (No drink for you!)
    Mornin’ to people posting that I missed. 😳
    Mornin’ to all you lurkers! πŸ˜•

    Also just in case someday; mornin’ to Elvis Chupacabra, F.D.R. in Hell and sundance! :mrgreen:

    Breakfast!

    NEW and IMPROVED breakfast with extra bacon for ZurichMike!

    Doughnuts and coffee!

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  13. amwick says:

    Just a thought about they guy next door. He is busy, always, but now there is a hurricane thread.. I hope he is not in harms way… This is a nail biter. Prayers for everyone facing Matthew.

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    • stella says:

      He’s prepping – just in case. It’s a serious storm.

      Liked by 5 people

      • amwick says:

        TY… smart as always….

        Liked by 2 people

      • auscitizenmom says:

        I decided to pick up a few more bottles of water and a couple of things, so I went to my nearest Publix about 6:30 last night. The parking lot was almost full, and there were cars coming and going. It was as busy as it is on Thanksgiving Eve.

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        • Col (R) Ken says:

          Mom are you going to be okay????

          Liked by 4 people

          • auscitizenmom says:

            I either will, or I won’t. I am not too worried. I am in an apartment complex in Lakeland, central Florida. When the last hurrican hit here, it was bad, but there were only a few apartments that got damaged and they were near the main street, sort of exposed and it was mostly leaky roofs.

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            • czarowniczy says:

              Just talked to an old retired Army/Metro-Dade cop in Miami. He has a large stock of MREs, ammunition and booze. He did Andrew as a Miami cop so this one’s a distraction more than anything else.

              Liked by 2 people

              • stella says:

                Andrew was an “exceptional” storm.

                Liked by 1 person

                • czarowniczy says:

                  And building codes in Dade were exceptionally crappy. City/county let codes and enforcement slide during the building boom, much of the damage was from thst period’s construction, old houses built with storms in mind rode it out.
                  State instituted more stringent standards post-A, we used some of them building our bunker, they even exceed NOLA’s post-K codes. I’d worry more about the storm surge in Miami than the wind…that and the looters.

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                  • stella says:

                    Up until the year before Andrew, the winter home where my mother stayed was in a mobile home park in Homestead. It was completely leveled, BUT they had moved to Bradenton on the west coast the previous March. Talk about good timing! I still had relatives in the Homestead area, and they did experience some damage.

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            • lovely says:

              Prayers for you mom πŸ™πŸΌ

              Liked by 1 person

          • auscitizenmom says:

            My main concern are the three huge oak trees. I am in a town home on the end of the building and one is outside the west wall, and two outside the north wall. Just pray their roots hold firm. Maintenance keeps the limbs well trimmed.

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            • stella says:

              Does your complex have a designated shelter area?

              Liked by 2 people

              • auscitizenmom says:

                Nope.

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              • czarowniczy says:

                East sides of hurricanes are far less problematic than centers to west sides, and farther west you are the more better. When Georges took a wee jog east and hit over by Gilfport, about 80 miles east. Instead of drowning us we got mild tropical force winds and some rain. If the storm stays offshore a ways then the dirt areas should get some icky weather but no where near as bad as if they got close to the eye. Building codes went way up after the Andrew debacle so damages should be minimal even if it moves closer to shore.

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                • The Tundra PA says:

                  I don’t remember Georges, must have been after my time. I was in Gulfport for Camille in ’69, a memorable experience.

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                  • czarowniczy says:

                    Georges was late September, 1998. It was making a beeline straight for the mouth of the Mississippi and in line with NOLA when it stopped dead in its tracks for about two hours and when it restarted took a slight jog before it resumed its northward track and slammed into Gulfport/Biloxi. Some say the stop and change was some act of meteorological phenomenon but some 14,000 people in the Dome praying for it to change course, not to mention the other churces that were full of penitents, surely played a part.

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            • czarowniczy says:

              Ag people around here did a study post-K as K cut a lawnmower-like swath thru Mississippi. They found that native trees survived the storm best (confirms Miami post-A studies) and those native trees with tap roots in place did best of all. Problem is that when developers plant nursery trees they frequently do not have their tap roots, leaving only the weaker feeding roots to support them. If that oak grew there it should have the tap place and in NOLA we have oaks that have withstood hurricanes for hundreds of years. Ditto pine trees, those with taps in place may snap but unless a tornado plows into them they aren’t going to uproot. Trimming the limbs also helps to reduce the windload.

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              • auscitizenmom says:

                Well, it may be all right then, if the guy who worked here was right. I asked once why they planted the trees so close to the pool which causes constant problem with leaves in the pool, and he said that the trees were already here and they put the pool next to them.

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  14. stella says:

    Seems that Scott Adams is being targeted for his Trump support.

    The Week I Became a Target

    http://blog.dilbert.com/post/151301555066/the-week-i-became-a-target

    Liked by 7 people

  15. derk says:

    Seems Amazon has found a way to sell their overstock

    Liked by 7 people

  16. WeeWeed says:

    Mornin’ kids! Happy #NationalTacoDay!

    Liked by 7 people

    • czarowniczy says:

      Coincidental you should send that. I’m building a .300 Blackout upper as we speak. Difference is I bought a nitrided barrel, gas tube, gas block and bolt carrier group for greater durability (as if I’d live long enough to wear one out). Got super prices on the nitrided parts, couldn’t resist.
      Blackout’s about a 200 yard cartridge anyway, just like the .458 Socom and .50 Beowulf but then it’s hard to find an area around me that doesn’t have trees or brush inside of 200 yards. I sort of like having an AKish round with better magazine capacity for deer and pigs though I could sorta make up some difference by jiggling the .223 rounds I use in the AR. Or it may have just been a stray fat globule blocking a capillary feeding a commonsense area in my brain that made me add another caliber to the mix.

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  17. Wooly Phlox says:

    Hey Stellars.

    I found this on the BadBlue’s “Tech” tab, for some reason. Doug Ross’ algorithms are inscrutable, but I like being surprised. (Drudge is curated, BadBlue is algorithmic.)

    20 Things I Learned While I was in North Korea

    As I read it, I couldn’t help but think about all of our little North Koreas in the form of BLM-dominated thug cities. All lies, all the time, until it just comes natural, until everyone believes them all, and even when they don’t, they lie anyway. Instead of the Imperialist Americans to blame for everything, they have their own Goldstein, “White Americans”.

    There are so many more parallels in America’s “North” (TV-hypnotized Americans, BLM, SJW, LBGTQQ+, Occupy, and all their Dear Leaders) it’s uncanny. It’s like we have North Korea, in spirit, living among us.

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  18. stella says:

    Seen on Facebook (by Alex Bensky):

    Let’s think about some hallmarks of fascism, Clarice. Exaltation of the leader who cannot be criticized, suborning of government agencies to quash opposition and advance the party, endorsing mob action to advance a political agenda, an economic policy that controls but does not own the means of production and distribution, whereby profits come not from satisfying the market but satisfying the government, and of course the suppression of free speech.

    If we agree that these are the sort of things we see in a fascist situation, do we see these things in the US today? If we do, from which side of the political aisle do they come?

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  19. nyetneetot says:

    So this is the new trend; buy antique technology, destroy it so it looks restored, but works with new technology.

    https://wanelo.com/store/usbtypewriter

    Liked by 2 people

    • Wooly Phlox says:

      That is just amazing.

      I’ve been hep to this for a while, and even got my mom hooked, with the “steampunk” adjective on Pinterest. Try it. Steampunk computer. Steampunk boots. Steampunk phone. Steampunk laptop.

      There are some insane geniuses out there, modding our stuff.

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      • nyetneetot says:

        It makes it extremely difficult to find parts to restore something to functioning/usable factory condition. People now buy and use them as industrial art/accent pieces or in this case, take something of worth and make a stage prop out of it.
        It doesn’t add to the functionality of the computer, boots, phone, or laptop anymore than gluing rhinestones to a pair of Levi’s.

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  20. ImpeachEmAll says:

    Mentioning insane…

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  21. ImpeachEmAll says:

    Soros bigger loser than Trump.

    Did anyone hear or read about it?

    Like

  22. Wooly Phlox says:

    Apropos of nothing:

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  23. czarowniczy says:

    Two Long Beach, MS police officers are on paid suspension after a 3-year old child in their care died after being left in a hot patrol car for around four hours. The officers say the AC was running but the autopsy said she apparently died of overheating.
    Officers were visiting someone, they weren’t on duty, and one of the officersxwas the chold’s mother. The death occurred on the 30th but as of yet no charges have been filed and statements from the city say that it’s unclearvyet what charges, if any, will be filed.
    You or I leave a child in a personal vehicle, period, never mind a police car, andcsee how fast charges will be filed.

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    • michellc says:

      Very true. A grandma here recently left her 9 month old grandbaby in the car while she went in to pay for her gas when the gas pumps wouldn’t take her card. Her side was that he was asleep and she didn’t want to wake him up and get him out to run in for a minute. She had pulled up to the gas pumps, rolled down the windows and got out to pump her gas, the pump was messed up and wasn’t reading cards, she got back in car pulled to front of store where she could see the car at all times. She left it running with AC on, windows rolled up and doors locked. A cop pulls at the same time she is coming out of the store. IMHO he way overreacted, arrested her, had DHS pick up baby. Thankfully, for her the DA thought it was bs and refused to charge her.

      The local paper ran a front page story about her being arrested and made it out like she was the most horrible person in the world. The comments by the DA and the fact that he wasn’t prosecuting her was ran on page 3.

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    • nyetneetot says:

      I remember being left in the car while my mother went grocery shopping on more than one occasion. Looking back on it, it may have been that I wouldn’t behave in public or something along those lines. I also remember department stores where I was told to stay in the toy aisle, or got smacked to playing hide n’ seek in the women’s clothing section.
      Now I’m confused. Were my parents crappy or was I just a horrible child that shouldn’t be allowed in public?

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      • czarowniczy says:

        I can’t get past there being two cops and their patrol car involved.

        Liked by 1 person

      • michellc says:

        We lived in a different time. A time that I believe is gone forever. I can remember my mom kicking me out of the house as soon as I ate breakfast and I amused myself until I got hungry and wanted something to eat.
        I think today she would probably be charged with child neglect. lol

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        • stella says:

          We had a lot more freedom.

          Liked by 1 person

          • michellc says:

            I am glad I was a kid in those days. I feel sorry for kids today. Very few are allowed to be kids and even fewer are allowed to explore the world and get bumps and bruises and make mistakes that will make grow into capable adults.

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            • auscitizenmom says:

              I wasn’t allowed out of the yard until I was 12.

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              • michellc says:

                Your parents sound like they were born in the wrong time. lol

                The only rule I had, which I often broke, was to be in hollering distance.

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                • auscitizenmom says:

                  I didn’t live in the country for one thing. For another thing, I had an overprotective mother.

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                  • michellc says:

                    She sounds like it. My husband spent the first 12 years of his life as a city boy, although if you met him you’d never guess, he’s 100% hick. lol
                    He’s always told his stories though of how all the boys in the neighborhood spent all day playing ball, riding bikes, putting pennies on the railroad track. If they got hungry during the day they’d either go to the nearest kids house or they’d do around to the older people and mow their yards, wash their cars, do anything they’d pay them to do and then they’d walk down to the diner and eat lunch. Their rule was to be home before the porch light came on.

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                  • auscitizenmom says:

                    I was a girl…………….raised by a Southern mother. 😦

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              • Wooly Phlox says:

                Me neither. Except my yard was a thousand acres of sand dunes and woods.

                And I wasn’t allowed in the house until evening.

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                • Wooly Phlox says:

                  Oh, and six or so miles of Lake Michigan beaches.

                  Stay in the yard? Not a problem.

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                  • Wooly Phlox says:

                    Thunder Mountain and Rogers’ Creek was my yard as a kid. The dunes from Covert to South Haven. You can see Chicago and Waukegan at night from the top of Thunder Mountain, which my grandpa used to own, then sold to AUSCO. I don’t know if Auto Specialties still owns the land or not, but it’s one scary sand dune. In all my youth, having climbed it from the front (a 75 degree bare sand slope) and the back many times, I only ever dared to sled down in the winter from 1/3 the way up. There is a creek and a deep, old forest at the bottom. You would die if you sledded from the top of this dune.

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  24. czarowniczy says:

    Jeepers…creepy clown incidents abound in urban areas. Wonder why we don’t have them way out here in the rural areas…..?

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  25. stella says:

    In Defense of the LA Times Poll

    https://www.peoplespunditdaily.com/news/elections/2016/10/02/defense-la-times-poll/

    After nearly a week of interviews conducted after the first presidential debate, Donald Trump leads Hillary Clinton by roughly 5 points in the LA Times Poll, 46.9% to 42.2%. TV pundits have stuck to conventional political wisdom, despite the fact it has failed them at every turn this election cycle.

    As a result, the LA Times Poll has been taking even more heat than it has in the previous several weeks, which is really saying something.

    Last week, during an appearance on Fox News, Larry Sabato, whom we respect (so save your emails), insinuated β€œrandom sample polls” have shown an impact from the debate that favors Mrs. Clinton. It was an indirect dig at the LA Times Poll–and, the People’s Pundit Daily U.S. Presidential Election Daily Tracking Poll for that matter–a dig that has been repeated on Twitter by others like Sean Trende at Real Clear Politics.

    But there’s something pretty damn significant missing from the conventional wisdom-based argument, something I think readers and election-watchers should know. In 2012, the model and methodology they are using, which was designed by the team behind the RAND Continuous Presidential Election Poll, or the β€œDaybreak Poll,” was was right when most other traditional random sample polls were wrong.

    But that’s not it. It’s the reason why the model was right that is of particular significance to this election cycle. Let’s take a look at how they polled the 2012 presidential election between President Barack Obama and Gov. Mitt Romney, and their results.

    Continued (with data; very interesting) …

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    • Col (R) Ken says:

      Stella; It was Rommney’s election to lose. And that Candy Crowley moment, I would have said Bullship to Candy, and just kept on verbally beating Obola. Romney brought a knife to a gun fight………
      The second part of the article should be interesting……….

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  26. Wooly Phlox says:

    Like

  27. Wooly Phlox says:

    One more tonight, and wow….

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