General Discussion, Monday, August 8, 2016

Posted on August 8, 2016 by Stella
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  1. Col.(R) Ken's avatar Col.(R) Ken says:
    August 8, 2016 at 12:16 am

    I can’t be 1st

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  2. lovely's avatar lovely says:
    August 8, 2016 at 12:30 am

    Sweet home Chicago! I saw that beautiful skyline just yesterday 🙂

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  3. MaryfromMarin's avatar MaryfromMarin says:
    August 8, 2016 at 12:31 am

    Drive-by:

    How a Generation Lost Its Common Culture

    http://www.mindingthecampus.org/2016/02/how-a-generation-lost-its-common-culture/

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    • Col.(R) Ken's avatar Col.(R) Ken says:
      August 8, 2016 at 12:52 am

      Excellent article!! Many nights in HS I poured over my Dad’s copy of Western Civilization from his college days. Then I discovered an old dusty book at the Carnegie Library, Oakland branch, Pittsburgh. History of Western Way of Warfare ( forgot the exact title) kept that book for two years, both books provided an excellent foundation in Western Civilization.
      Many years later, I was forced to read clausewitz, found cliff notes my friend……
      Thank you Mary

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  4. lovely's avatar lovely says:
    August 8, 2016 at 12:58 am

    I was reading yesterday’s thread and saw Mike Cernovich’s article that Stella posted about Hillary freezing on stage and agree 100% with Mike’s assessment and I’ll add another observation. Notice how Hillary has tucked her right arm in against her body and her tight (Mike calls them pursed) lips, this is instinctual behavior, Hillary is not only frozen she is unconsciously making herself smaller, she also tries to tuck herself in to the SS chap who bellies up to her.

    Now look at difference in behavior between first the SS to reach Donald (when there actually was a threat) and Hillary’s gentleman friend’s actions. SS surrounds Donald but the first SS guy to reach Donald puts himself between Donald and the threat. SS is trained to put themselves between the threat and their ward yet Mr. Wonderful just bellies up to TheBeast.

    Also notice the difference in Trump’s response to a threat he is ready to confront it head on.

    It seems to me that the animal rights folks were only yelling and that there was no physical threat.

    Interesting that the SS immediately tells TheBeast “It’s ok, keep talking.” It was IMO a very weird dynamic, unless there was no threat and of course there was no threat, or the SS would have put himself between Hillary and the threat. Hillary just freaked out over some folks shouting at her.

    Simple as that. Hillary is more than a bit unwell.

    Cackle straight to hell Beast.

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    • MaryfromMarin's avatar MaryfromMarin says:
      August 8, 2016 at 1:05 am

      Strong speculation that he is not SS, but instead is some sort of medically trained “handler”.

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      • lovely's avatar lovely says:
        August 8, 2016 at 1:19 am

        I read that, I tend not to believe it, I tend to believe that he is a MD and SS. I believe the picture showing him with the ID card around his neck is likely a security pass as other SS are wearing them also. I also don’t think he gave her a shot on stage or that his lapel pin is different than the other SS but I could easily be wrong on that. I just can’t imagine that TheBeast’s handlers would make such a rookie mistake as to stick a medical identifier on the guy.

        I think Hillary’s soul is catching up to her body and brain and she is going to have a nervous breakdown.

        I believe there are many signs of it. I think the guy in the casual suit (do we have a name for him?) who rushed to her side is a kind of “life coach” he is as casual as he can be without raising too many suspicions and I do agree that his role is not that of a normal SS agent.

        Hillary knows SS hates her, the SS book recently released has deepened Hillary’s distrust of them. Hillary is evil she has betrayed everyone she has known with the possible exception of Bill, she is in my opinion reaching the point of no return because we as humans project who we are onto others, Hillary can’t possibly trust anyone around her, even her beloved Huma, because Hillary knows that she would throw Huma under the bus in a nano second if it furthered Hillary’s agenda.

        JMO

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    • lovely's avatar lovely says:
      August 8, 2016 at 1:06 am

      Also I believe that the SS chap knows that Hillary can’t handle a lot of commotion or it confuses her. Notices how quickly he gets the other SS to get away from her.

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    • ZurichMike's avatar ZurichMike says:
      August 8, 2016 at 1:17 am

      I am fairly sure that Secret Service protocol does *not* involve carrying around medication, being out of shape, giving gentle hugs in a potentially dangerous situations, and whispering “You got this. Keep talking.”

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      • lovely's avatar lovely says:
        August 8, 2016 at 1:24 am

        I agree but I’ll bet that exemptions were made for him or he was a retired SS agent and is currently SS. As to out of shape most of them are fine as a fiddle but Trump has one overweight black gentleman who is SS, I met him and talked to him.

        I think SS always wear white shirts and TheBelly (as I call him) is in purple so maybe he is not SS.

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    • Stella's avatar stella says:
      August 8, 2016 at 7:12 am

      Do we know that the guy is actually Secret Service, or does he serve some other function?

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      • lovely's avatar lovely says:
        August 8, 2016 at 9:51 am

        I don’t think we know.

        I think he is supposed to appear to be SS but I think people have brought up enough doubt about whether he is or not. I tend to believe that he is kind of an “honorary SS”.

        Remember we are think about this within the normal boundaries of law and actions which would be required for someone to qualify to be a Secret Service Agent, Hillary is above the law, she can likely “deputize” an SSA and an investigation would find if someone else did what Hillary did the man would not be SS but because Hillary thought she could make him SS he is SS.

        And I’m only being about a quarter sarcastic.

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  5. ZurichMike's avatar ZurichMike says:
    August 8, 2016 at 1:19 am

    Breakfast bacon bowl. What would you fill it with?

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  7. The Tundra PA's avatar The Tundra PA says:
    August 8, 2016 at 2:33 am

    This made me go ooooohh…

    Captioned “From God, with Love”

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  8. lovely's avatar lovely says:
    August 8, 2016 at 3:14 am

    Here are some pictures of SS from Trump’s Janesville rally. I believe if the light reflected a certain way that they could easily appear red at the top which is how I believe Hillary’s handler’s lapel pin appears.

    I have not been to the Tree so I don’t know what is being said there but remember what certainty it was declared that a BBQ pit was Dorian Johnson.

    Sorry not trying to be a party pooper I just feel like whoever this guy is, (I believe an MD/LifeCoach/Comfort blanket) who likely through Clinton’s lawlessness is labeled as SS is indeed a blow to Clinton and his purpose in being at her side needs to be exposed and it is better to focus on things other than his lapel pin. I mainly say this because I think that given the tricks that light plays on things in photographs and the political astuteness of Team Clinton, his pin is likely a pin like the SS are wearing. Again I could be wrong but that is my inclination.

    Part of what makes me think he is a life coach along with being an MD is that he would give Hillary “safe words” things that they would have rehearsed and notice that the first thing Hillary does when she snaps out of it, is repeat his words almost verbatim “Ok here we are. Ok we’ll keep talking.”

    This is classic putting the tools you have learned to work for you.

    I’m pretty sure Keith Schiller wears one and he cannot have gone through the SS training but was brought in by Trump because he is Trump’s long time bodyguard. I’ll see if I have a photo of Kieth with his pin.

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    • lovely's avatar lovely says:
      August 8, 2016 at 3:31 am

      I’m wrong Keith’s lapel pin is a geometric triangle so if there is a clear picture of the handler’s lapel pin that would be significant if it is not standard SS issue.

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    • ZurichMike's avatar ZurichMike says:
      August 8, 2016 at 5:00 am

      BBQ pit? What was that all about?

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      • lovely's avatar lovely says:
        August 8, 2016 at 10:09 am

        Back in the early days of the Mike Brown is an innocent hero shot down in cold blood by a racist cop days 🙄. The Tree had a theory that showed who it was purported to be Dorian Johnson standing back in a tree line “watching” the scene unfold, it was considered proof of something, I honestly don’t remember what. Most Treepers were on board with the “proof”. Anyhow after days of speculation and a top Treeper posting pictures with “Dorian” circled watching the scene another Treeper posted a picture of the apartment layout and it was not Dorian but a permanent BBQ pit.

        I brought it up because loads of people on Twitter are all convinced that the lapel pin is a medical pin a smoking gun of sorts and I’m sorry but really? Did Clinton’s brain problems suddenly leap to all her handlers? It juts doesn’t pass the the first test of simple reason to me.

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    • Stella's avatar stella says:
      August 8, 2016 at 7:19 am

      I agree about the pin, and feel the same about what he has in his hand (more likely to be a pen). Whether or not he is SS is debatable. If he is in Clinton’s cortege, he would have the same or similar security badge as everyone else, I think.

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      • lovely's avatar lovely says:
        August 8, 2016 at 10:15 am

        I don’t know what he has in his hand but neither does anyone else from a grainy blown up photo. If it was an identifiable medical device I believe Martin Shkreli would have identified it. He hasn’t.

        And I think it is Mike Ceronvich (who I believe is highly credible and whose record speaks for itself) who thinks he sees the handler take out pill and bring it to his mouth but he is actually simply pressing the button on his wired intercom and likely telling reinforcements (stand by medical personnel?) that all is well.

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    • oldiadguy's avatar oldiadguy says:
      August 8, 2016 at 8:47 am

      lovely,

      Over the years I worked a number of details with the Secret Service. During that time frame, SS would have a distinctive lapel pin for SS agents, I believe there was another pin for Federal law enforcement, a third pin for law enforcement (state, county local police) and I believe there were additional pins for other support personal who were allowed to be near the protected person. The colors of the pins would change daily and would be handed out at the daily briefing. If the SS still practices this technique, then identifying persons by their lapel pins is going to be very difficult.

      What is interesting about the black male who is attending Hillary is his ID badge hanging around his neck. The blue colored ID appears to have badges and LE stars on the corners. I would try to identify the ID card the attendant is wearing to ascertain his connections to the Hillary campaign.

      Take Care

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    • lovely's avatar lovely says:
      August 8, 2016 at 10:29 am

      Rut Roh! It looks like the personal physician is in the house!

      https://twitter.com/imchrisbenson/status/762632916551675904

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  9. nyetneetot's avatar nyetneetot says:
    August 8, 2016 at 7:49 am

    Mornin’ stella! (Smiter of those that ought to be smote) 😎 🍸 (Long Island Iced Tea)
    Mornin’ WeeWeed! (Master Mixologist Extrodinare) 😎 🍸 (Old Fashioned)
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    Also just in case someday; mornin’ to Elvis Chupacabra, F.D.R. in Hell and sundance! :mrgreen:

    Breakfast!

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    Doughnuts and coffee!

    ⭐ = Unprintable phallic symbol

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  10. WeeWeed's avatar WeeWeed says:
    August 8, 2016 at 8:35 am

    Mornin’ sports fans!

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  11. Stella's avatar stella says:
    August 8, 2016 at 8:53 am

    Delta flights grounded after IT systems failure

    Airline says flights awaiting departure are not taking off after computer outage, but flights en route operating normally

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/08/delta-air-lines-flights-grounded-after-it-systems-failure?

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    • nyetneetot's avatar nyetneetot says:
      August 8, 2016 at 9:05 am

      “Industry consultants say airlines face an increasing risk from computer disruptions as they automate more of their operations, distribute boarding passes on smartphones and outfit their planes with Wi-Fi. “

      More like the current pool of prospective IT employees are not able to think for themselves and don’t understand the computers are not there to provide them with a job.

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    • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
      August 8, 2016 at 6:50 pm

      I generally fly Sountwest so you can tell my expectations and standards aren’t too high. Then again, flying Southwerst makes it hard to inconvenience or disappoint me.

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  12. michellc's avatar michellc says:
    August 8, 2016 at 9:07 am

    Prayers for his family. I know because I’ve heard it from my son-in-law numerous times when I express my worry of him continuing to race after a wreck that they say if they die on the track they died doing something they love to do. Fortunately it’s a rare event that one of them do die from a wreck, but it still doesn’t ease the pain of the families who face the loss.

    http://usacracing.com/component/k2/item/5592-bryan-clauson-passes-away-after-injuries-sustained-in-belleville-crash

    Statement from family:

    Last night, the 7th of August, we said goodbye to our son, my fiancé, our friend, Bryan Clauson. He was surrounded by family and friends and we were grateful that we could experience his final moments with him.

    Our Bryan fought to the end with the same desire that he demonstrated behind the wheel of all the various race cars he would park in victory lane. However, we were more proud of our Bryan that took a moment to make a young fans day, or demonstrated his uncommon kindness and appreciation toward his friends, family and fans.

    We would like to thank everybody who has shown their concern toward us and kept us in their prayers. We will never be able to truly thank you. We would also like to thank the staff at Bryan Medical Center who stood and fought with our Bryan since he arrived here early yesterday morning.

    We know that our Bryan is also your Bryan and that you would like to participate in honoring him. A service will be held at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway at a date and time to be announced soon. In lieu of flowers, or to make a donation, people may direct their contributions to the USAC Benevolent Fund website at http://usacbf.org/cash-donation/ or checks should be made out to the USAC Benevolent Foundation in the name of Bryan Clauson. The address is 124 E Northfield Drive, Suite F #129, Brownsburg, IN 46112.

    Thank you for being a part of our Bryan’s life.

    Lauren, Tim, Di, and Taylor

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    • nyetneetot's avatar nyetneetot says:
      August 8, 2016 at 9:25 am

      Prayers

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    • lovely's avatar lovely says:
      August 8, 2016 at 10:41 am

      Prayers for Bryan and all his loved ones.

      My friend has a cross country motor bike racer. He almost died once, the doctors called his parents and said get her immediately if you want to say goodbye. Miraculously he pulled through. He still races and still loves every second of it and says he wouldn’t change a thing.

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      • michellc's avatar michellc says:
        August 8, 2016 at 12:05 pm

        My son-in-law has been racing since he was 9 years old. He wrecked a car similar to what Brian was in when he was 10, his was a mini-sprint, this one was a midget. They’re about the same size except the midget is faster because they run bigger motors where as the minis run motorcycle engines.
        His dad still has that car and my daughter said she saw it and couldn’t tell it had even been a car the way it was rolled almost into a ball.
        The entire track thought he was dead, but he thankfully was uninjured.
        I will admit at first I wasn’t too thrilled about the racing and when my daughter got pregnant tried to talk him into hanging it up. I’ve came around and go to every race now. He did race all sizes of the sprints, but now races modifieds. I feel a little better about that because they’re beefier cars.
        That’s not to say though when someone is pushing him into the wall or he’s flying over the bank I don’t still hold my breath. He had a bad wreck last year where his car got totaled. I wasn’t at that race, I was watching the baby and was glad that I wasn’t there when I saw the car.

        My brother used to race dirt bikes and he had some pretty scary wrecks. He loved it though.
        I’ve came to understand it’s in their blood and all you can do is send up a prayer.

        Even watching though gets into your blood and I’m now a huge dirt track fan. lol

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        • lovely's avatar lovely says:
          August 8, 2016 at 12:10 pm

          I agree that it is in the blood. It is my friends son’s lifeblood. I’m sure you pray for your SIL safety but I’ll add him to my list.

          Life is to be lived so I understand following one’s passion.

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          • michellc's avatar michellc says:
            August 8, 2016 at 12:41 pm

            That’s what I had to accept, he loves it and it makes him happy.

            My grandson loves the races as well, he tells me every week, “I dive Daddy wace ca, I win.” Now I’m hoping and praying he grows out of wanting to drive race cars. lol

            However, we can all be killed anywhere. I love horses and never stopped riding horses just because have been killed riding. My husband and I both grew up in the rodeo and have saw a lot of people get hurt and killed doing that.

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        • shiloh1973's avatar shiloh1973 says:
          August 8, 2016 at 6:15 pm

          It ias very true about being in the blood. I grew up in the 60’s and women did not race. Well, at least on an approved track. It did not stop me from drag racing on the streets or on our homemade track at home. Fortunately I have come to my senses a little as I have aged. However I was at work when a fire broke out close to my house a few years ago, and I discovered that my Chevy pick up would do 90MPH on a grave load. I did a couple of really nice slide jobs on the two curves I had to take. Yup, the need for speed is still there from time to time.

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          • michellc's avatar michellc says:
            August 8, 2016 at 6:30 pm

            When I was 16 I drove an old beater, it belonged to my older sister and brother-in-law. The deal was I fixed it up and it would be mine. I saved and had a new motor put it in it, but it would be awhile before I had enough to get it painted.
            Boys would come into the little burger shop I worked at and make fun of my car. They always had their little hot rods. I was young and stupid and unfortunately knew how fast the new rebuilt motor was. So I’d make a deal with them, if I beat them in a 1/4 they’d shut their mouths about my car. I never lost.
            However, that only made more want to prove they could beat a girl and an old POS car. The last race this kid wanted to up the stakes and race for titles. Heck, it wasn’t even in my name, but like I said I was young and stupid, so I agreed. Thankfully, I won and that kid started crying like a baby that his dad was going to kill him. I let him off the hook and told him I didn’t want his car. My mom found out that night about my racing and I had to give the car back to my sister.
            That was my racing experience except for being dragged to a few dirt tracks as a teen, but it wasn’t my thing and then watching NASCAR with my brothers and later my husband.
            When my daughter first started dating her husband we’d go to a few races, but it took awhile to get me hooked.

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            • shiloh1973's avatar shiloh1973 says:
              August 8, 2016 at 6:46 pm

              My family followed the dirt tracks all over the Midwest when I was young. I am completely hooked. I moved to Eastern Washington in 1987. I told some of the people I met that I was into racing. They all asked the same thing, “dogs or horses?” I knew I was in deep trouble. I listen to all of the World of Outlaws every weekend on Dirtvision.com. They have free audio and an outstanding chat room. My dream would be to spend a whole year following the circuit across the country!

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              • michellc's avatar michellc says:
                August 8, 2016 at 7:07 pm

                I’m not that into it. lol
                I’m really spoiled because our local track is one of the best around, nice track, nice pits, great grandstands and the track guys are good.
                I’ve went to a few other tracks with him and they were horrible.

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            • WeeWeed's avatar WeeWeed says:
              August 8, 2016 at 9:04 pm

              I have no interest in racing whatsoever and had no idea there was local competition when the child was in high school. The first car was an old irok z with a rebuilt engine. So, turns out there was a racetrack in a nearby town. And years later, I find out that said child was racing. (You know, the old “doing research at the library,” “spending the night with so-and-so”, et al)
              Years later I said to someone else who’d brought it up, “Well, I believe the child won first in the annual “winner race” out at Penwell.”
              (Child whispers to said person very quietly,….. “second.”
              If I’d known at the time I’da croaked.

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              • michellc's avatar michellc says:
                August 8, 2016 at 9:14 pm

                LOL!!

                If mine ever raced, I never found out about it. Although the older my kids get the more stories they tell that I never knew.

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                • WeeWeed's avatar WeeWeed says:
                  August 8, 2016 at 9:26 pm

                  IKR???? I was such a failure as a mother……

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                  • michellc's avatar michellc says:
                    August 8, 2016 at 9:32 pm

                    I’m sure you were like me and thought you knew where your kids were.
                    I think though the worst I’ve found about is one of my boys taking the farm truck joy riding when I wasn’t at home.
                    The old truck was just for the farm, it had no tag and no insurance because it was strictly a farm truck that never left the farm. Which I guess made no difference to him because he was only 15, not old enough for even a permit, much less a DL.
                    If I had known it at the time, I probably would have beat him. lol

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                  • Stella's avatar stella says:
                    August 8, 2016 at 9:32 pm

                    Wee, mine was a handful as a teen, but turned out okay. I think your experience was probably about the same as mine!

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                  • WeeWeed's avatar WeeWeed says:
                    August 8, 2016 at 10:09 pm

                    Oh, I don’t know…. did Chicago’s (or Detroit’s) finest drag yours home at 3:00 a.m. for car theft???? At the grand age of 15?????
                    Another story for another day…..

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                  • Stella's avatar stella says:
                    August 8, 2016 at 10:33 pm

                    No, but probably but for the Grace of God …

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                  • lovely's avatar lovely says:
                    August 8, 2016 at 11:29 pm

                    Me too WeeWeed, we were once headed to a county fair and my mom had a small red saturn, we knew that a family friend was running his red Saturn in the demolition derby so I told my little kiddos that grandma’s car was going to be in the demolition derby.

                    We get to the fair and park and the youngest child (most sensitive) says “Don’t we have to take grandma’s car to the car place?” Me thinking it is still just a joke “No they’ll come and get it.”

                    Now we had never been to a demolition derby before so we get seated and the cars come out. There is my friend in a car just like my moms and the drivers start doing what they do at a demolition derby. The Saturn is out pretty early, all smashed up.

                    Anyhow we go about the fair and have a nice night. On our way back to the car my youngest suddenly is wailing! “I loved grandma’s car, how will we get home!” Poor, poor, grandma’s car!”

                    Every once in a while she still reminds me about that “Terrible joke.”

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    • shiloh1973's avatar shiloh1973 says:
      August 8, 2016 at 6:09 pm

      I’m 61 now and have been watching dirt track racing since I was 4. There was a video out [ 38 seconds}. I made the stupid mistake of watching it. I knew from experience, he was not going to live through that one. He went up the wall into the catch fence and flipped three or four times. That he would have lived through. Unfortunately he came down on his side in front of oncoming traffic. He took a direct hit to the roll cage.
      Prayers to his family and the entire racing community. Bryan was a heck of a talented race drive.

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      • michellc's avatar michellc says:
        August 8, 2016 at 6:18 pm

        I saw a slow motion video on FB the night it happened. It looked like when he landed on his side, the wheel of the other car hit in the roof of the car.

        I hoped and prayed for a miracle and that they could save him.

        It sickens me that people who have nothing to do with him are setting up gofundme pages and some people won’t know any better and will donate.
        His family asked for donations to be made to USAC Benevolent Fund. They help racers and their families.

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        • shiloh1973's avatar shiloh1973 says:
          August 8, 2016 at 6:25 pm

          The only roof on a midget car is the roll cage. The driver’s head is only a few inches below it.

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          • michellc's avatar michellc says:
            August 8, 2016 at 6:38 pm

            Yep. My son-in-law before he started the modifieds was back to just the mini sprints and midgets. Size and build wise they were very similar. I told him all the time how dangerous that looked. He always told me how many times he had rolled them.

            There still isn’t tons of room on these modifieds, but they’re a lot heavier. He rolled his last year, the chassis was bent and rolled around and broke in several places, but he came out of it without a scratch.

            He’s only gave me a few heart attacks this year, once when another car was pushing him up the wall and another when he went over the bank. He went airborne but the car landed on all four tires and he drove back on the track and finished the race and ended up winning it.

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            • shiloh1973's avatar shiloh1973 says:
              August 8, 2016 at 6:49 pm

              Yes, the modifieds have a lot more metal around the driver. You really don’t see that many deaths in racing anymore, the safety features have come a long way. Bryan’s crash was one of those very rare ones. I have rarely seen a midget land on the track on its side with the roll cage exposed.

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              • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
                August 8, 2016 at 6:56 pm

                Back in my less arthritic and more stupider days I paled on the old Southern ‘figure eight’ race tracks. Then it was OK, I was immortal, now I watch the GGS driving the riding mower, trying to reach the pedals on the ATV. and realize he’s halfway to a license and the open road. Ugh.

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              • michellc's avatar michellc says:
                August 8, 2016 at 7:19 pm

                I will say my son-in-law is anal about his safety equipment and he has spent the extra money for it. He gets quite angry with some of these racers who won’t spend the money on the equipment or fail to tighten their seat belts.
                He tells the new guys all the time to not just tighten the belts when they get into the car, but to keep pulling on them while they’re waiting in line. He compares it as saddling a horse.
                He about blows a top when he sees drivers without gloves and there was actually one last year who cut the legs out of his racing suit and turned it into a jacket and wore blue jeans and regular shoes.
                This year though the track has really cracked down on the racing suits and that guy refuses to race because he says those suits are too hot.
                He’d think hot if his car caught on fire.

                I couldn’t race though. I put on the suit, shoes, gloves, and helmet and climbed into his car and put the belts and hahns on. I felt like I couldn’t breathe and it’s loud and you can’t see anything.

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  13. nyetneetot's avatar nyetneetot says:
    August 8, 2016 at 10:30 am

    Just in case anyone wondered. The common Russian citizen on the street believe there is no cheating from their athletes. Obama and Americans at large are creating all this controversy since the American athletes are not very good and Obama needs someone to throw under the bus for his own foreign policy disasters.

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    • WeeWeed's avatar WeeWeed says:
      August 8, 2016 at 10:58 am

      I tend to believe them. I did have the joy of watching those overrated Williams sisters get their a$$es beat by the Czechs last night.

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      • lovely's avatar lovely says:
        August 8, 2016 at 11:15 am

        I use Serena as a perfect example to defeat “equal pay” for unequal work whiners. Women in tennis pay less matches is almost every tournament, they draw smaller crowds, they make less revenue for the venue, the sponsor and the media yet Serena was demanding the same money as the likes of Federer, Nadal and Djokovic.

        Not to mention Serena herself admits that she would probably have to get up to the 70th seed in the mens ATP to even return a serve 🙄

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        • WeeWeed's avatar WeeWeed says:
          August 8, 2016 at 11:54 am

          Yup – (even at the Olympics!) that venue was as crowded as a Hillary rally.

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          • lovely's avatar lovely says:
            August 8, 2016 at 11:59 am

            😀 too funny! I just asked a Libber-brain on Saturday, if there is no difference why are the Olympic games separated by gender?

            I was told because of years of misogyny females bodies have evolved differently than male bodies but if the women had been allowed to be the hunters and gatherers they would be the dominant gender.

            I asked “But who would of had the babies.”

            😀

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            • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
              August 8, 2016 at 7:01 pm

              Nature versus nurture versus natter. Did she blame the need of female lions to hunt to feed the pride on excessive exposure to Married With Children on the Serengeti cable TV?

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              • lovely's avatar lovely says:
                August 8, 2016 at 9:16 pm

                I felt with my natural advantage coupled with her jello shot disadvantage that I should just walk away 🙂

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                • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
                  August 8, 2016 at 9:42 pm

                  Done hadda give up on dem jello shots, I like cold premium vodka with a dash of fresh lemon or lime…gets ya into the’dealin’ wid idiots’ zone fasterer.

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                  • lovely's avatar lovely says:
                    August 8, 2016 at 9:59 pm

                    Let’s just say that the booze river was flowing freely. Mostly conservatives (mostly bikers) but some folks who didn’t know that they were goofballs and that no one was interested in their world view.

                    One example. “You probably noticed the little blue sports car when you drove in?” Now I drive a car not a bike which all the Harley fellows who were sitting around with me know. But I answer the goof, “No not really, one cage looks the same to me as any other cage.”

                    😎

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                • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
                  August 8, 2016 at 11:37 pm

                  Ran outta reply space…site managers probably drive Vespas. I had a Harley…once. Then I got married…twice.

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                  • lovely's avatar lovely says:
                    August 8, 2016 at 11:45 pm

                    We had a get together at a lake. No one bothered to check with the PTB if bikes were allowed on the grounds. They weren’t . Luckily we had a golf cart to go pick people up as they arrived.

                    More people drove cars than bikes.

                    I love to ride but don’t do it very often.

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                  • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
                    August 8, 2016 at 11:53 pm

                    Still outta reply space….
                    I love to ride, if I had my druthers I’d spend the late spring and early summers riding the Intermountain and Big Sky areas until my kidneys screamed for mercy. However I have two wives who hate tattoos and bikes so I remain uninked and sublimating by crashing my ATV through brush. 35 on an ATV doesn’t match 70 on a Glide but I can still pick bugs outta my teeth.

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  14. lovely's avatar lovely says:
    August 8, 2016 at 11:41 am

    Just imagine if a Trump supporter shot a Hillary supporter. MSM silent as usual.

    http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2016/08/08/trump-voter-shot-after-political-debate-spurs-shooting/

    Trump Voter Shot After Bar Political Debate Turns Violent

    SMH

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    • Pam's avatar Pam says:
      August 8, 2016 at 12:40 pm

      I read the article earlier today and was left with more questions than answers. For one thing, how come they didn’t arrest this guy after the incident? The article says he just turned himself in and the incident happened July 25, four days after the Republican convention ended in Cleveland.

      I searched for Winston’s Bar in Cleveland. Here is their facebook page. The second comment, from a person named Williams, confirms this is the place. Look at the reply under his comment. It’s a little confusing, but it sounds like initially someone lied about what really happened. Both the victim and the shooter were regulars at the bar (see second article posted below, which was posted at cleveland.com on July 26 and gives more info.)

      https://www.facebook.com/pages/Winstons-Bar/175231875843499

      http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2016/07/argument_over_presidential_pol.html

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      • lovely's avatar lovely says:
        August 8, 2016 at 12:49 pm

        Why wasn’t the shooter immediately arrested? Because he shot a Trump supporter is the simple answer.

        And the place sounds like a hell hole.

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        • Pam's avatar Pam says:
          August 8, 2016 at 1:36 pm

          Well maybe, but it could be other things. These guys apparently knew each other. Maybe the older man didn’t press charges immediately, although I don’t know if he would have to press charges for the police to arrest someone for felonious assault. Maybe the bar patrons and owner lied or tried to cover up the whole thing for other reasons than just that the guy argued in favor of Trump. Other violent incidents have occurred at that bar…they may have been wanting to keep the police and city government officials away from their place. You could be right, but that it happened in a bar, where people could be blind drunk and arguing over anything, clouds the issue imo.

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  15. nyetneetot's avatar nyetneetot says:
    August 8, 2016 at 12:26 pm

    Security Guard at Tukwila Islamic Center stabbed in the back; suspect in custody
    http://komonews.com/news/local/security-guard-at-tukwila-islamic-center-stabbed-in-the-back-suspect-in-custody
    …
    (This is just a couple of miles South of Downtown Seattle and next to our major airport)
    …
    TUKWILA, Wash. — Tukwila Police are investigating after a fight at a mosque escalated into a stabbing late Sunday night.

    It happened at the Abu Bakr Islamic Center at 14101 Tukwila International Boulevard just after 8:30 p.m.

    Members of the Tukwila Fire Department and Tukwila Police Department responded for reports that there was a fight of some kind and one person had been stabbed.

    The Director of the Mosque told KOMO News that they saw a fight ensue between a mosque attendee and one of the security guards at the center. The security guard was stabbed in the back, but is expected to survive, according to the mosque Director.

    The suspect was taken into custody by Tukwila Police and no other people are expected to be involved.

    It’s still unknown why the fight started, but people at the mosque told KOMO that the two knew each other.

    Tukwila Police are investigating and we expect to hear more from them about this incident in the coming days.

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  16. oldiadguy's avatar oldiadguy says:
    August 8, 2016 at 1:23 pm

    Oh boy, Hillary’s hiding files again.

    “Meanwhile a makeup-free Hillary was seen carrying a box of files into Chelsea’s Madison Avenue home, where she lives with Mezvinsky and children Charlotte and Aiden.”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3682689/Bill-Clinton-dons-blue-suede-shoes-walk-family-dogs-Masie-Tally-New-York-Hillary-visits-daughter-Chelsea-10-5million-condo.html

    First Whitewater files, then SOS E-mails, now Clinton Foundation Files?????

    Take Care

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  17. czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
    August 8, 2016 at 1:46 pm

    Here’s an interesting one: 4 men and 1 woman break into the home of an 83 year old woman looking to rob her. They beat her, break her hands and an arm, then pour lighter fluid on her and set her on fire before they leave. She crawls over to a jug of water and, with broken hands, opens the jug and pours the water over herself to put out the fire. She then crawls to the living room and calls 911. She’s in the hospital in critical condition. Police figure that attackers had been there before, possibly she employed them to pick fruit on her farm. Police have a description and are looking for the attackers.
    http://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/meriwether-county-great-grandmother-beaten-in-her-home/418143784
    Local Fox news reported it here but failed to mention the description of the attackers…as did most other sources reporting the incident. Try finding a description outside of a few locals who knew of the incident…guesses why?

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  18. lovely's avatar lovely says:
    August 8, 2016 at 4:06 pm

    With apologies to Mother Goose.

    “There was a crooked women”

    There was a crooked woman, she ambled a crooked mile,
    She found that crooked was her very favorite style;
    She bought a crooked AG and a Feebie louse,
    And her aim was to occupy a crooked White House.

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  19. Stella's avatar stella says:
    August 8, 2016 at 5:33 pm

    Harassment – pure and simple. She didn’t even know Donald Trump at the time –

    Democrats demand immigration records for Melania Trump

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/aug/4/melania-trumps-immigration-file-requested/?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=socialnetwork

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  20. Stella's avatar stella says:
    August 8, 2016 at 7:20 pm

    Very cool!

    1823 schoolhouse moves to new foundation behind 44 oxen

    http://www.breitbart.com/news/1823-schoolhouse-moves-to-new-foundation-behind-44-oxen/

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  21. michellc's avatar michellc says:
    August 8, 2016 at 8:20 pm

    I just heard that some ex-CIA agent is running for President because Trump is inhuman and Hillary is unfit, he prayed about it before he decided, but he doesn’t see himself as a spoiler to Trump. Forget the little fact that he’s missed the ballot deadline in 27 states. He has the money pouring in and Americans are rapidly responding to him, so he says.

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    • lovely's avatar lovely says:
      August 8, 2016 at 9:22 pm

      Yep. Evan McMullin. Running solely to take votes away from Trump. Probably financed by Soros.

      U.S. ELECTION 2016
      Ex-CIA officer’s long-shot presidential bid could hurt Trump

      http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/disenchanted-republicans-to-float-ex-cia-officer-to-oppose-trump-reports/article31307026/

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      • michellc's avatar michellc says:
        August 8, 2016 at 11:01 pm

        A Romney Mormon it appears. Looks like the only plan is to make Trump lose Utah.
        I just looked at is LinkedIn.

        Chief Policy Director
        U.S. House of Representatives | Republican Conference
        January 2015 – Present (1 year 8 months)Washington D.C. Metro Area

        Manage the development and advancement of House Republican Conference domestic and foreign policy initiatives, while leading Conference policy team. Specific areas of focus have been foreign affairs, national security, technology, health care, finance, government reform, natural resources, and women’s empowerment.(Empowering women…..smh……I’ve never needed a man to empower me)

        Investment Banking Associate
        Goldman Sachs
        2010 – 2013 (3 years)San Francisco Bay Area

        Worked on a variety of capital raising and M&A projects and deals across several industries including technology, energy, consumer goods, biotech, industrials, and real estate.

        Volunteer Refugee Resettlement Officer
        United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees
        2001 – 2001 (less than a year)

        Vetted and processed UN-recognized refugees from the Middle East and Africa for resettlement to third countries.

        Council on Foreign Relations
        Term Member
        Starting 2011

        https://www.linkedin.com/in/devanmcmullin

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  22. michellc's avatar michellc says:
    August 8, 2016 at 9:49 pm

    Sometimes I want to slap people. My FB was bombarded with a post shared, written by a parent of a HS kid.
    The post said that the softball coach was not allowing the daughter to play softball because she missed practice to go to Church and that the Superintendent agreed with the coach that softball practice came before God.

    I had the same reaction as most people and was ready to attend the next school board meeting, although I have no kids in school, but I do pay property taxes that go to the school.

    Then a HS girl commented that she is a Christian athlete and she went to the same Church camp as this girl. Three girls went to the same Church camp and one girl went on a family vacation. The coach had told all the girls on the team if they missed practice, they had to make it up by running the same amount of laps, same amount of abs, and the same amount of push offs as the girls who attended all the practices. They had the option of doing them all before they left or could make them up when they got back. All of the girls did it except this one girl who refused to make them up because she was being discriminated against for being a Christian.
    That she like the rest of the team heard the girl tell the coach that and the coach told her she couldn’t be on the team if she refused, that it was her choice either way, but it wasn’t fair to the girls who busted their behinds every day for her to not do anything.

    Another girl’s Dad told the same story about his daughter and went on to criticize the parents who were teaching their daughter to play the victim, while trying to stir up trouble for the coach. He believed it was only right that his daughter had to follow the rules, which she did and she’s playing softball. That it has nothing to do with being a Christian or where she went, but that it was the rules, rules that were clearly stated.

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  23. lovely's avatar lovely says:
    August 8, 2016 at 10:22 pm

    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/two-benghazi-parents-sue-hillary-clinton-wrongful-death-defamation-n625861

    Two Benghazi Parents Sue Hillary Clinton for Wrongful Death, Defamation

    The parents of two Americans killed in the 2012 terrorist attacks on U.S. diplomatic facilities in Benghazi, Libya, filed a wrongful death lawsuit in federal court Monday against Hillary Clinton.
    In the suit, Patricia Smith and Charles Woods, the parents of Sean Smith and Tyrone Woods, claim that Clinton’s use of a private e-mail server contributed to the attacks. They also accuse her of defaming them in public statements.
    Smith was an information management officer and Woods was a security officer, both stationed in Benghazi.

    “The Benghazi attack was directly and proximately caused, at a minimum by defendant Clinton’s ‘extreme carelessness’ in handling confidential and classified information,” such as the location of State Department employees in Libya, the lawsuit said.
    While no such connection has ever been established, their lawsuit called it “highly probable” that Clinton sent and received information about the activities of U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens.

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