General Discussion, Monday, June 13, 2016

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  1. czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:

    Ah yes, one of those ships the Europeans used to colonize and enslave the Native Americans who, at the time the blue-eyed devils arrived, were living in a diverse and inclusive society…when they weren’t killing and enslaving each other.

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    • Col.(R) Ken's avatar Col.(R) Ken says:

      Who’s driving?

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    • Wooly Covfefe's avatar Wooly Phlox says:

      Today’s pic reminds me of the USS Constitution, and her three sister ships, and that they were created in a time when Americans didn’t have to wait and figure it out, because they figured it out. Because we weren’t abject idiots back in 1797, and we knew then what we don’t know now — that Islam needs to be defeated, and not appeased.

      …to the shores of Tripoli.

      We did it well. Now we forget, and invite them in. 100 per day from Syria alone.

      22 days left in Ramadama-ding-dong.

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      • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:

        Just bare your throats and lrt the adherents of The Religion of Peace see we Chridtians really are suicidal sheep, especially ad we’re led by a Moslem judas goat.

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  2. MaryfromMarin's avatar MaryfromMarin says:

    V. From the snares of the devil,
    R. Deliver us, O Lord.
    V. That Thy Church may serve Thee in peace and liberty:
    R. We beseech Thee to hear us.
    V. That Thou may crush down all enemies of Thy Church:
    R. We beseech Thee to hear us.

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  3. czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:

    “…they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them…” Could our guy have been speaking about Moslem-Ameicans???

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  4. MaryfromMarin's avatar MaryfromMarin says:

    “And you, that have forsaken the Lord, that have forgotten my holy mount, that set a table for fortune, and offer libations upon it, I will number you in the sword, and you shall all fall by slaughter: because I called and you did not answer: I spoke, and you did not hear: and you did evil in my eyes, and you have chosen the things that displease me.”
    –Isaiah 65:11-12–

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  5. Gorgeous photo, Stella.

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    • The Tundra PA's avatar The Tundra PA says:

      Indeed yes, what a beautiful ship. DH, the Coastie, has sailed one much like it. The Coast Guard Academy has a tall ship, The Eagle. New cadets spend their swab summer sailing it in the Atlantic. Back in DH’s day (late 60s), cadets functioned just like 18th century sailors. They jumped into the rigging barefoot and climbed aloft to haul in or let out sail, they manned the windlass to haul in the anchor. By the time his son was a cadet 30 years later, CGA had admitted women, the windlass was operated by a motor, and cadets wore harnesses attached to safety lines before going into the rigging. But the ship is still beautiful.

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      • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:

        Twice since we lived in New Orleans the various Coast Guard and Navy training ‘tall ships’ have come into port. Both times their crews climbed and rode the ships’ rigging as the sailed in. We lived on the lower coast so the ships would stop in the river just opposite where we were as they secured the furled sails and stood on the ships’ yards. The yards would have the ship’s crew that weren’t needed for direct operation, it was impressive. The individual ships were impressive but the massed ships turning tha Algiers Point and sailing into the area of the downtown docks was breathtaking.

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        • Stella's avatar stella says:

          I got lots of photos from the Baltimore paper from the 200th anniversary of the battle at Ft. McHenry. There were more than 200 beautiful photos, and some of them show exactly what you are describing.

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        • The Tundra PA's avatar The Tundra PA says:

          Wow, I would love to see that, czar. I didn’t know the Navy had a tall ship.

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          • Stella's avatar stella says:

            The USS Constitution is still in commission.

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            • The Tundra PA's avatar The Tundra PA says:

              Showing a little interservice rivalry, DH says “Well…yes…it is still in commission, but it doesn’t actually sail. All they do is turn it around every so often so it weathers evenly.” Eagle is a true working ship. Cadets sail it from New London, CT, to Bermuda every summer. In DH’s day, it did not have the orange and blue racing stripes on the side. He thinks they should have incorporated the racing stripes into the sails if they had to have them.

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              • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:

                Well y’all beat me to that one, what I get for going out to check the hog traps. The Eagle is the US’s sailing tall shop, bette known in the family as the Horst Wessel. The Constitution can still sail but I don’t think it goes out much any more, she’s a wee bit on the old side and has to be in port by 8:30.
                At the tall ship gatherings we had training sailing ships from a number of countries’ navies and coast guards. It was actreat to see them all berthed at wharves in NOLA, must have been what it looked like when NOLA was a major US port. At one time the city had the nation’s longest contiguous wharves, that was before the city let the business go away and the wharves all deteriorate.

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                • Stella's avatar stella says:

                  The tall ships visit several cities in the Great Lakes during the summer. The closest to me is Bay City, MI, where 11 ships will dock in mid-July. Most this year are ships that are usually docked in the U.S. They will also be visiting Chicago this year.

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                  • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:

                    They haven’t been to NOLA in a while, one wonders why not. Then again, they’re not on a combat training mission, nor do they want to come back to their ship after a nite on the town to find it stripped and up on concrete blocks.

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              • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:

                Gee…wonder what your interest in the matter may stem from?

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  6. WeeWeed's avatar WeeWeed says:

    Mornin’ all!

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    • Stella's avatar stella says:

      Excellent. Best account yet. To be honest, I didn’t used to believe in the cover up, and I’ll bet most Americans dismiss Jack as a conspiracy theorist, but he has brought up facts that can’t be ignored.

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    • Col.(R) Ken's avatar Col.(R) Ken says:

      I just belly there were two missiles, one of their, and our intercepter. Still an excellent article! Excellent comment about the passenger list, I do not believe anybody has put some effort into this part. Maybe a note to Mr. Cashill, just too asked for his opinion…..

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  7. nyetneetot's avatar nyetneetot says:

    Mornin’ stella! (Smiter of those that ought to be smote) 😎 🍸 (Long Island Iced Tea)
    Mornin’ WeeWeed! (Master Mixologist Extrodinare) 😎 🍸 (Old Fashioned)
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    Mornin’ to people posting that I missed. 😳
    Mornin’ to all you lurkers! 😕

    Also just in case someday; mornin’ to Elvis Chupacabra and F.D.R. in Hell! :mrgreen:

    Breakfast!

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    Pastries for coffee!

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  8. Wooly Covfefe's avatar Wooly Phlox says:

    Morning, Stellars.

    http://gatesofvienna.net/2016/06/piss-christ-piss-koran-part-one/

    Part 2 or four came out Thursday, and part 3 is due today. One and two have great cliffhanger endings. This is good writing.

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  9. Wooly Covfefe's avatar Wooly Phlox says:

    http://www.breitbart.com/milo/2016/06/12/left-chose-islam-gays-now-100-people-killed-maimed-orlando/

    Milo Yiannopoulos is homosexual, BTW.

    Somehow, this Christian (me) has never thought of doing this to him.

    And we’re the intolerant ones.

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    • Menagerie's avatar Menagerie says:

      When you are secular, as the political world is, as the majority of the people in America today are (and I maintain that a big number of so called Christians are secular pew sitters), you don’t have the moral or intellectual understanding of true goodness born only and ever from the death and resurrection of Christ, in fulfillment of everything given to us through the ancient depth and majesty of the Jewish teachings and faith. Faith, belief, hope, goodness, righteousness, forgiveness, sacrificial love, those are just words in the dictionary to the people in Europe and America who can’t see the evil, the contagious, spreading, seeking evil that is Islam.

      When your value system is relative, on a sliding scale so to speak, how can you have a foundation on which to understand real good and bad? When you believe your liberal notions and ideas will stop murderers who live to kill, what foundation is there to build an understanding of the real world?

      They don’t have even the clarity of vision born of reality. I’ll bet non Muslim Africans have no problem seeing the treat in Islam. Seems like China and Russia are pretty clear on the threat too. Much of Eastern Europe remains against open borders and Muslim immigration.

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      • lovely's avatar lovely says:

        I think one of the largest problems with moral relativism is the grave danger of not being able to see the world and facts as they are, unencumbered by a skewed world view.

        Liberals are constantly adjusting the facts to fit their world rather than allowing facts to inform and educate their point of view.

        Today I saw an interview with the chap from yesterday who was all over the news, he was in the club, he lost friends, he said that he himself was covered with the blood of another club goer. I saw him help carry a wounded woman away from the carnage.

        Yet he learned nothing from the massacre that took the lives of 49 innocent people.

        Instead he still thinks that it was not a Muslim’s indoctrination in the depths of Islam that caused this but rather a man’s hatred for the gay community. I believe he went so far as to say the slaughter had nothing to do with Islam. I can’t find the interview on the internet though.

        How do you fix indoctrination to the point of self-immolation? How do you talk to a man who is so worried about being seen as an Islam-o-phob or mean spirited or whatever he is so afraid of that he cannot admit that the blood he wiped from his own hands was spilled by a Muslim who hated the people in the Pulse Club because his Islam told him that every person in there is only worthy of a violent death because of their sexual orientation?

        Christopher Hansen the first witness in this video is the man who said that it wasn’t a Muslim who killed all these people it was a hater.

        SMH

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      • Pam's avatar Pam says:

        Excellent excellent excellent, Menagerie! I would only add one thought that occurred to me, that is implied in your words. The moral or intellectual understanding has a component which includes the somewhat intangible idea we sometimes call “conscience.” I can’t say it well, but it has to do with how our hearts and minds are changed by the action within us as we give our will and ourselves to God. Our “hearts” (which includes minds), which are to varying degrees colder or unfeeling about some things, change. Hearts of stone to hearts of flesh (I think how it is said in the Bible.) The more we cooperate with it, the more we change. It’s like a living thing, acting. It is Life, Truth. A priest once put it to me: “He is doing surgery on you.” The sensing and understanding of evil is part of all this. People either have this going on in them…or they do not. If they do not, then they are figuring out everything based only on their own minds and experiences.

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      • nyetneetot's avatar nyetneetot says:

        Someone my wife is friends with on FB is on the other side of the planet. They post things all the time that would be deleted or blocked if it was in English. I just read a bit of history being shared around (poorly translated from Russian);

        “Anatolia (in translation means east)
        So, conditionally called their Asian possession of the Roman Empire. Today, so it is called the Asian part of turkey.
        In the year 1844, in the Ottoman Empire, a census, which showed in the territory of modern turkey 10 million inhabitants, including:
        The Turks-3 500 000 (35 %)
        Armenians-2 400 000 (24 %)
        The Greeks-2 000 000 (20 %)
        The Kurds-2 000 000 (20 %)
        Assyrians and other Christians-600 000 (6 %)
        Arabs, circassians and other Muslims-800 000 (8 %)
        Thus, even in the 19th century, Christians were exactly 50 % of the population in Anatolia!
        In the 18th century, the proportion of Christians was over 60 %, In the 17st century – more than 90 % of the residents of Anatolia were Christians! Before the 11th century, in Anatolia wasn’t a single Turk!
        Let us recall that the Anatolia. At which today is conveniently the so-called “Turkey”-it’s the ancestral land of Greeks and Armenians. It is here, even for a thousand years before the common era, occurred ethnogenesis of these peoples.
        As a result of the genocide and the beginning of the twentieth century, Anatolia, almost completely lost its indigenous population.

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        • Col.(R) Ken's avatar Col.(R) Ken says:

          Thank you Nye! Now on another note; you look good the other day, Wal Mart parking lot, mounted on horseback, using your lasso on that bike thief. As a witness said, he’s a new guy in town, not too much is known about him, but he (you) will fit in. I knew that this is you, why do I know? Cause nobody trailers a horse saddled…….. Is this town your vacation spot? You looked good Cowboy, next time just ride the guy down, then smack him with the rope!

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        • Wooly Covfefe's avatar Wooly Phlox says:

          Sometimes I like to use, as a rhetorical device, this question:

          Who did you cheer for, when you watched Braveheart?

          Wallace or England?

          The answer is always Wallace, despite that his forces killed (gasp!) Brits?

          Then why don’t you cheer for the Crusades?

          It’s because they’re abject idiots who know absolutely nothing about history.

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      • Wooly Covfefe's avatar Wooly Phlox says:

        …and I maintain that a big number of so called Christians are secular pew sitters…

        I’d bet: most. Most deny the actual power of Christ risen. As they buy their Max Lucado blue jeans, calendars, CDs, paintings, and devotional books from the Moneychangers at Zondervan Corp. They’ll come to their senses when they cease being comfortable.

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    • WeeWeed's avatar WeeWeed says:

      I heart young Milo. So, so bright.

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  10. MaryfromMarin's avatar MaryfromMarin says:

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  11. ImpeachEmAll's avatar ImpeachEmAll says:

    Anyone into timelines?

    Please read link and
    make some sense of
    1:00 am, 2:00 am,
    and 5:00 am and be
    mindful of no shooting
    between roughly 2:00
    and 5:00 am, at which
    time, LEO decided to
    enter building with force.

    Almost reminded me of
    Waco with bikers being
    shot by LEO. Nah.

    http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-orlando-nightclub-shooting-20160613-snap-story.html

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    • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:

      Yeah, I was discussing this yesterday with an ex-SWAT commander. NOPD had SWAT members who kept their gear in the cars’ trunks somthey could go directly to the scene without the need to form up. They could secure the area while the regular members were forming/kitting up and grtting to the site. In the event that things break down and, like at the club tne guy is or starts shooting they could just go right in and try to stop it if they felt the situation warranted it.
      Problem is that thanks to our POtuS the use of force, never mind deadly force, even in a life-and-death situation has become a political one. You can brt that the city pols and PD bureaucrats are going to try as hard as thry can to make lemonade out if this. Had the SWAT rushed in there was the very real possibility that the pols/bureaucrats could havevtaken that as the chance to hint very strongly that hadbthe SWAT have waited the death count may not have been so large. By waiting there was no chance for anyone to play ‘toss the dwarf’ with the blame, they blame people from outside the local political picture.
      We’ll see panels empaneled to study what went wrong and make recommendations. New plans, policies, procedures and training findings will come and the public will be told ( cue patriotic music) that we will be united, we will refuse to let terror rule us, we will be asked to stand shoulder to shoulder the real Moslems (cue the Moslem shills) who eschew violence, yadayadayada. All concerned will then go back to feathering their own nests and pray that it diesn’t happen again on their shift.

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      • auscitizenmom's avatar auscitizenmom says:

        I sure wish I thought you were some kind of kook.

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        • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:

          Hasn’t it happened in your city? Every time we have a psrticulsrly bad multiple shooting, almost always involving the Usual Suspects, the mayor grabs the police chief by the collar and they both come out with some song and dance designed to soothe the public’s fear until such a time that their denial and heads-in-sand attitudes come back.
          The flat out truth is that the overwhelming amount of the violent crime sits in a known section of the community but no one wants to touch that political third rail by going right to the source. Instead we ramp up midnight basket ball, push a special kids mentoring program where major business people try to convince teens with a 4th grade education that instead of making a thousand dollars a week tax-free they can go back to school for twelve years and work their way up the corporate ladder.
          Oh yeah, recruiting more cops to bring our abysmal cops-per-thousand-citizens ratio up. That one’s been playing for some twenty years now, it’s right up,there with improving police response tome. The pols just say, when called on it, that it’s the citizens fault for many reasons, not the least being we don’t pay enough taxes. Of course when the city council needs extra money from the bone-drybtreasury for a pet project they can always shake a few milllion out, like fixing roads in their own neighborhoods or getting new cars.
          Looks like the question of how many civilian lives are an acceptable loss applies to pols at all levels.

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  12. lovely's avatar lovely says:

    Does anyone know who was pictured in the scene where club goers and police are carrying a person and put that victim in the back of a pick up truck? I’ve been looking but can’t find any information. Thanks if someone knows.

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  13. Wooly Covfefe's avatar Wooly Phlox says:

    Larry Bland, Nate Spencer and Donald Young held a joint press conference today praising Obama’s devotion to protecting gay men’s lives.

    Oh, wait — they were all murdered years ago.

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    • Wooly Covfefe's avatar Wooly Phlox says:

      …and it begins…

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    • Wooly Covfefe's avatar Wooly Phlox says:

      Next week, London’s Muslim Mayor will ban any speech critical of child sex-slavery rings, because that would be hate speech.

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      • Wooly Covfefe's avatar Wooly Phlox says:

        After he makes that pronouncement, he’s going to go back to his bordello and continue running one.

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      • Wooly Covfefe's avatar Wooly Phlox says:

        I understand why Jews laugh so much, and have so much great humor.

        It is because there is no “level cap” on Cynicism. They know, and they know well.

        Most also know the ending to the story. Each horrific event, each proclamation, every mass-killing and coverup, every censoring, they know. All too well.

        And, as Jimmy Buffet said:

        If we couldn’t laugh, we’d all go insane. This song needs to be rewritten for today.

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