General Discussion, Monday, May 23, 2016

Posted on May 23, 2016 by Stella

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  1. nyetneetot's avatar nyetneetot says:
    May 23, 2016 at 12:03 am

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  2. MaryfromMarin's avatar MaryfromMarin says:
    May 23, 2016 at 12:10 am

    Visit the great churches and cathedrals of Europe now, while you still can:

    Europe: Allah Takes over Churches, Synagogues

    http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/8005/europe-mosques-churches-synagogues

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  3. czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
    May 23, 2016 at 12:40 am

    Let the Europeans forsake God for some holdover desert pagan deity, let’s see where that gets ’em. The Churches in Europe have ignored apostates, heretics and blasphemers for a few centuries now, you watch them rock worshipers change the rules.

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    • ZurichMike's avatar ZurichMike says:
      May 23, 2016 at 12:46 am

      Switzerland: No new minarets (by law) for a few years now.

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      • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
        May 23, 2016 at 12:54 am

        It’s going to be interesting, there’ll be a few enclaves in Europe, they’ll probably even get some new immigrants who’ll flee Old Europe. I’m just wondering if countries like Germany and France will have a civil war or just slip silently into the new Dark Ages?

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        • MaryfromMarin's avatar MaryfromMarin says:
          May 23, 2016 at 1:23 am

          I don’t think there’ll be anything “silent” about any of it.

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          • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
            May 23, 2016 at 12:38 pm

            I don’t see huge anti-Moslem Freikorps forming in Europe, so far they’re just sitting there and waiting for the other carper slipper to drop.he US and a lot of European progs spent the decades after WWII neutering European nationalism and ‘aggressiveness’ after two devastating wars in twenty years and a ton of others in the previous 200 years. Rock worshipers may ululate in joy but that’s about all I believe we’ll hear.

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        • nyetneetot's avatar nyetneetot says:
          May 23, 2016 at 2:01 am

          I have a horrible feeling the new dark ages started with the Arab spring….

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          • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
            May 23, 2016 at 12:29 pm

            The apologists go on and on about the great achievements under early ‘Arabic’ (code word for Moslem) rule, ignoring the possibility that these accomplishments occurred despite the Moslem rule and what they might have accomplished had they not been restrained by Islamic authorities just as European scientific research was stymied by the Church’s authorities during the original Dark Ages,

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        • ZurichMike's avatar ZurichMike says:
          May 23, 2016 at 2:18 am

          There are “refugees” being forced into every little hamlet in Europe. They don’t adapt, don’t learn local language, look for handouts, and then complain that “it’s not like home”.

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          • nyetneetot's avatar nyetneetot says:
            May 23, 2016 at 8:03 am

            I hear that all the time at home too. “In the Soviet Union we had this and in the Soviet Union we had that.” Just take your old Soviet Union passport and go home already.

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          • nyetneetot's avatar nyetneetot says:
            May 23, 2016 at 8:11 am

            And don’t get me started on not learning the local language! “You lied to me! You made me think you were rich!” SMH It’s “tricked” not “lied”

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          • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
            May 23, 2016 at 12:49 pm

            I should have been more clearer, I was referring to European-European refugees escaping the tender mercies of the understanding and accepting Religion of Peace.
            Lost in the noise of historical revisionism is the story of the Taliban fighters the allies in Afghanistan captured who hailed from villages in western Britain. Early on the Fundamentalists had infected a lot of small towns in rural England, taking over spaces abandoned by the young headed for the bright lights and parties. They insinuated themselves there forming a secure operational base. Ditto the rest of mainland Europe also but their presence, capture and deaths were held close by the governments involved for quite a while.

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            • Pam's avatar Pam says:
              May 23, 2016 at 4:46 pm

              Here’s the thing I try to figure out. Some people look at history and religion plays a very minor role in their view of it. Others see it differently and think the spiritual/religious beliefs of human beings were a big, driving force in the ebb and flow, and that these beliefs weren’t just crutches or inherited culture. There are libraries of information but they have different conclusions, depending on this very factor. The secular view is probably more abundant, though. That doesn’t mean it’s accurate.

              So, if your example of rural England can be used, what was going on with the English while this began and continued? Were they people who had no strong, moral glue of religion to inform their minds and potentially rouse them to action? Were they materially-minded, pleasure-driven…like we see happening here? Did they think government and power were the important things, or was it just all about their little personal lives and they didn’t care?

              There is a theory that human beings have this part of them that is a hole that needs to be filled with spiritual something. As much as it makes sense when people discuss Islam as NOT a religion, I still think there is something else going on, maybe not with all of them.

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              • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
                May 23, 2016 at 5:07 pm

                I believe that Europe’s had a different relationship with religion than has the US. Their governments were religion based, religion sponsored many of these wars, the Inquisition ran from the 12th century to the 19th in one form or another. We have the schism between the Catholic church and the Church of England and the state sanctioned murder of over 6 million Jews. Oh yeah, and that long running Moslem invasion and occupation of parts of Christian Europe.
                Here we’ve virtually zero religious reaction of that sort and the attitudes of our immigrant ancestors have evaporated for lack of reinforcement.
                The Europeans are shedding not only the less desirable aspects of that historical religious past bu religion entirely and the Moslem immigrants are not likely to do so. Their beliefs will hold most of their community together while the marginally religious Europeans will waste time trying to convince them that religion is not important. We’ll see who wins.

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      • Pam's avatar Pam says:
        May 23, 2016 at 4:22 pm

        What is it really about Switzerland? I’ve seen many long explanations. I’m not asking for that kind of detail.

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    • Pam's avatar Pam says:
      May 23, 2016 at 4:15 pm

      Well, I think they forsook God long before the “immigrants”. The way I see it, they did the same thing the Israelites and many others have done. They began to worship the gods of money, lust, self, etc…especially Self. The great, fake “I Am”, not the Creator. (Pardon me, Lord) As far as I can tell, it’s going on right here and has been for some time. But it’s true, imo, that Church leaders have abandoned, in too many cases, the real Truth. Some of them have had a great part in sowing the wind. We’re at the whirlwind now.

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      • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
        May 23, 2016 at 4:22 pm

        yup, agreed, but what I’m saying is that it’s one thing to swing towards the god of greed and iniquity but quite another to turn away from the God of Abraham to the Moon Goddess.

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        • Pam's avatar Pam says:
          May 23, 2016 at 4:58 pm

          Yes, you are right.

          The other day, I told my husband that I tried to find a word to encompass what I’m seeing. The best I could come up with was: paganism. Try reading the headlines on Drudge. Insanity. The little stories of people, here and there, and what they are doing. Some woman who tried to eat her friend’s face??!! People are going to have surgery and be part animal-part human? I don’t read the stories anymore.

          Also, the bad guys aren’t just beheading people.They have crucified some people, if the rare, repressed things I have seen are true. This Satanic Church thing growing here is scoffed at as their being just nuts. I bet they’re not only kooks, somewhere up the line, not the weirdos in the videos.

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  4. ZurichMike's avatar ZurichMike says:
    May 23, 2016 at 12:51 am

    Breakfast is up!

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  5. ImpeachEmAll's avatar ImpeachEmAll says:
    May 23, 2016 at 2:55 am

    Quick day. 😉

    Time for a Michigan sunset. 😉

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  6. lovely's avatar lovely says:
    May 23, 2016 at 7:48 am

    Dying veteran reunited with beloved horses one last time

    http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/news/national/veteran-gets-last-wish-see-beloved-horses/nrRbY/

    He’s paralyzed, his organs are failing and one of his final wishes was to be reunited with his horses.

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  7. lovely's avatar lovely says:
    May 23, 2016 at 7:50 am

    Good morning, folks!

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  8. nyetneetot's avatar nyetneetot says:
    May 23, 2016 at 8:04 am

    Mornin’ stella! (Smiter of those that ought to be smote) 😎 🍸 (Long Island Iced Tea)
    Mornin’ WeeWeed! (Master Mixologist Extrodinare) 😎 🍸 (Old Fashioned)
    Mornin’ Menagerie! 😎 |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| (Jack Daniels)
    Mornin’ Ad rem! (Queen Felis catus) 🐱 🍸 (Flaming Lamborghini)
    Mornin’ Sharon! 😎 🍸 (earthquake)
    Mornin’ ytz4mee! 😎 🍸 (cosmopolitan)
    Mornin’ partyzantski! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ texan59! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ ZurichMike! 🙂 🍸 (fuzzy navel)
    Mornin’ Col.(R) Ken! (hand salute) 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ czarowniczy! 🙂 |_| ( and Czarina 🙂 🍸 )
    Mornin’ letjusticeprevail2014! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ ctdar! 🙂 🍸 (grasshopper)
    Mornin’ tessa50! 🙂 🍸 (flaming volcano)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! 🙂 🍸 (sidecar)
    Mornin’ varsityward! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ MaryfromMarin! 😀 |_| (Mortlach)
    Mornin’ Wooly Phlox! (aka “taqiyyologist”) 🙂 |_| (Roy Rogers)
    Mornin’ Howie! 🙂 |_| (Classic Daiquiri)
    Mornin’ TwoLaine! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ Sha! 🙂 🍸 (Lemon Drop)
    Mornin’ BigMamaTEA! 🙂 🍸 (Harvey Wallbanger)
    Mornin’ cetera5! (aka “Cetera”) 🙂 |_| (Blackberry wine)
    Mornin’ The Tundra PA! 🙂 🍸 (bailey irish cream on the rocks)
    Mornin’ lovely! 🙂 |_| (Backdraft)
    Mornin’ michellc! 🙂 🍸 (Salty dog)
    Mornin’ auscitizenmom! 🙂 🍸 (Kiss on the Lips)
    Mornin’ Margaret-Ann! 🙂 🍸 (White Russian)
    Mornin’ Auntie Lib! 🙂 🍸 (Tom and Jerry)
    Mornin’ holly100! 🙂 🍸
    Mornin’ Pam! 🙂
    Mornin’ ImpeachEmAll 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ Monroe! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ Les! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ shiloh1973! 🙂 |_| (Jack Daniels)
    Mornin’ TexasRanger! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ Ziiggii! 🙂 |_| (B52)
    Mornin’ oldiadguy! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ smiley! (“stuck in spambucket”) 🙂 🍸 (Spanish coffee)
    Mornin’ derk! (“Stellars”) 🙂 🍸 (Mudslide)
    Mornin’ Jacqueline Taylor Robson 🙂 🍸 (Shirley Temple)
    Mornin’ facebkwallflower! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ Ms. Cindy! (aka “Ms Cynlynn” aka “ms cynlynn”) 🙂 🍸
    Mornin’ sandandsea2015! 🙂 🍸
    Mornin’ whiners and complainers! ⭐ 😛 (No drink for you!)
    Mornin’ to people posting that I missed. 😳
    Mornin’ to all you lurkers! 😕

    Also just in case someday; mornin’ to Elvis Chupacabra and F.D.R. in Hell! :mrgreen:

    Breakfast!

    NEW and IMPROVED breakfast with extra bacon for ZurichMike!

    Doughnuts for coffee!

    ⭐ = Unprintable phallic symbol

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  9. sandandsea2015's avatar sandandsea2015 says:
    May 23, 2016 at 8:33 am

    Morning Stella, Nyet, lovely, Mary, Michelle, Impeach em all, Zurich Mike, czar, and Menagerie. Hope everyone had a relaxing weekend. Monday is here again!

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    • michellc's avatar michellc says:
      May 23, 2016 at 8:56 am

      Good morning!

      I think I’ve forgotten how to relax. I may never paint again, because it has led to more painting and more stuff to see that needs painted a different color or fixed. Add to that it’s weaning time, which means catching baby goats, giving them shots, trimming hooves and hearing mamas holler and babies holler grinds on your nerves when there is so much to do.
      We also had to help our son-in-law tear down his motor in his race car and pull it yesterday.
      Good news is we’re going to have at least one day and night of relaxation though. Our anniversary is at the end of the month and our kids yesterday gave us a card, which included a reservation to a hotel suite, a dinner and a show in Branson.

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      • auscitizenmom's avatar auscitizenmom says:
        May 23, 2016 at 9:21 am

        How lovely! Hope you enjoy it.

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        • michellc's avatar michellc says:
          May 23, 2016 at 9:32 am

          We’ll go and enjoy it even if we don’t.
          Our kids always get annoyed with us because we seldom go anywhere on our anniversary, we’ll make plans and then back out.
          They were determined I guess that wouldn’t happen this year.

          There are times my kids annoy me, but then there are times I think we did something right.
          I much more appreciate the personal notes they wrote more than the night out.

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      • sandandsea2015's avatar sandandsea2015 says:
        May 23, 2016 at 10:08 am

        I understand being too busy. There’s always too much to do. Love little baby goats. They are so cute. I don’t have little goats, but plenty of other kids! 🙂

        Sorry about the race car, but yay for Branson!!! Great kid you’ve got there!

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        • michellc's avatar michellc says:
          May 23, 2016 at 1:48 pm

          I’ve never been much of a racing fan, but I love my SIL and he loves racing, so I’m in the stands every weekend cheering him on. I also get a little agitated when other drivers try to wreck him and have to hear from hubby that Mama needs to retract the claws, little ears are listening.

          I love the baby goats, but I can’t say I love the first few days of weaning.

          My son and daughter and SIL are pretty special, most of the time.

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          • sandandsea2015's avatar sandandsea2015 says:
            May 23, 2016 at 2:50 pm

            I’m still new to the SIL thing. He treats my DD like a princess, though, so I’ll keep him! 😉

            It’s good you support him they way you do, I’m sure it means a lot to your DD!

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            • michellc's avatar michellc says:
              May 23, 2016 at 6:34 pm

              They dated for 5 years and then were engaged for 2 years before they got married, so I feel like I’ve partly raised him. lol
              His mother took off with another man when he was young and left him with his dad and then came back and they got remarried and then she took off again when he was a young teen, so I think he was a little starved for a mother.
              I try to make up for that. lol

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              • sandandsea2015's avatar sandandsea2015 says:
                May 23, 2016 at 8:55 pm

                He’s very fortunate to have you! It always shocks me when I hear about mothers who behave the way his did. Hard to comprehend.

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                • Stella's avatar stella says:
                  May 23, 2016 at 8:59 pm

                  My exe’s mother abandoned her three children when they were 5, 3, and 1 year old. On Christmas. They were raised by their father, and this experience forever marred my exe’s personality, I would say. His sister told me that their mother had lunch with them when they were teenagers, and that she had remarried and had more children (the sister saw the kids in the car when the mother was picked up after lunch.) I looked and looked, and finally found out that she remarried three more times; she had three more children in her second marriage, divorced that man, and married twice more.

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                • michellc's avatar michellc says:
                  May 23, 2016 at 9:24 pm

                  She’s a real winner. He doesn’t talk about her much to me, but he’s told my daughter that she never was much of a mother even before she started running off.
                  I think his Grandpa raised him more than anyone else, but that was probably a good thing because he taught him how to work and have manners, something his sisters lack.

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                  • sandandsea2015's avatar sandandsea2015 says:
                    May 23, 2016 at 9:29 pm

                    My younger DD works with a young man who has been raised by his grandparents. He and his brother. They have parents but don’t see them, don’t know the reason why. Anyway, DD says the guy is very mature for his age and is respectful and responsible. Wish more kids had such amazing role models.

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                  • michellc's avatar michellc says:
                    May 23, 2016 at 9:44 pm

                    His Dad had him, but he worked all the time and isn’t the best role model himself, his kids were kind of an after thought, so I’m glad he had his Grandpa. Anytime he wasn’t in school, he was with his Grandpa.
                    Some people just should never have became parents.

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                  • sandandsea2015's avatar sandandsea2015 says:
                    May 23, 2016 at 9:47 pm

                    Amen to that!!! Too bad some realize it after the fact.

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                  • michellc's avatar michellc says:
                    May 24, 2016 at 12:23 am

                    I guess I went to the other extreme and don’t know how to turn off the mothering. I have my own problems with trying to stop mothering and tend to mother anyone who needs it. lol

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                  • sandandsea2015's avatar sandandsea2015 says:
                    May 24, 2016 at 8:18 am

                    Same here! Plus, it’s my job. I will never be able to turn it off. My DD has to remind me on occasion that she is all grown up and a mom now herself and doesn’t need my constant mothering. Oh well! 🙂

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                  • michellc's avatar michellc says:
                    May 24, 2016 at 9:00 am

                    Mine is the same way until she wants mothering. 🙂

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                  • sandandsea2015's avatar sandandsea2015 says:
                    May 24, 2016 at 9:08 am

                    Exactly!!!! 😉

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    • lovely's avatar lovely says:
      May 23, 2016 at 9:22 am

      Good morning SandandSea 🙂

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  10. WeeWeed's avatar WeeWeed says:
    May 23, 2016 at 8:41 am

    Mornin’ children!

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  12. WeeWeed's avatar WeeWeed says:
    May 23, 2016 at 9:14 am

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  13. michellc's avatar michellc says:
    May 23, 2016 at 9:35 am

    Liberals are idiots and this story is just more proof of that. However, I’m surprised there aren’t more stories of kids being abused by sitters today. I’m always shocked, regardless of how many times I see it on FB groups of parents asking for sitters for a weekend, a night out or for when they work. Perfect strangers on FB that they know nothing about and they’ll leave their babies with the first person who says they’ll watch them for a cheap price.

    http://toprightnews.com/parents-find-brutal-injuries-on-1-year-old-son-then-are-stunned-to-learn-why-charges-are-dropped/

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    • auscitizenmom's avatar auscitizenmom says:
      May 23, 2016 at 9:49 am

      I have another question besides “why would they leave this child with a stranger?” Why did they not notice the injuries until morning? The baby was crying when they got back. Did they not turn on the light and find out why he was crying and console him? Unbelievable.

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      • ImpeachEmAll's avatar ImpeachEmAll says:
        May 23, 2016 at 10:41 am

        First word (Liberals) equals
        answer to both queries. 😉

        Total lack of common sense.

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      • michellc's avatar michellc says:
        May 23, 2016 at 1:41 pm

        The liberal idiot law is stupid, but I would like to know how well they knew the sitter. I would also think they could see marks that night.
        I wouldn’t go as far to say I was a helicopter parent, but I was picky about who my kids were alone with. That often meant where the kids couldn’t go neither did I, but these days a night out seems more important than knowing who you’re leaving your child with.

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        • auscitizenmom's avatar auscitizenmom says:
          May 23, 2016 at 1:49 pm

          I made a mistake when I read this. My mind combined the comment along with the facts in the article. I thought they had gotten the sitter off the Internet. There is no proof of that. But those bruises on that baby do not indicate one hit. That baby was knocked around and hit many times. I still can’t understand why the parents didn’t see it until morning. And, the law the police site doesn’t even make sense.

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          • michellc's avatar michellc says:
            May 23, 2016 at 2:29 pm

            It was my fault, I included my observations with stupid parents. I’ve been seeing it so much and am always telling my daughter something bad is going to happen to one of these babies and then I read this article and it came to the surface.

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          • Pam's avatar Pam says:
            May 23, 2016 at 5:06 pm

            I don’t care who it came from. It makes me totally sick to my stomach.

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    • ImpeachEmAll's avatar ImpeachEmAll says:
      May 23, 2016 at 1:06 pm

      They not only make stupid laws,
      rules, and regulations; they are
      not able to handle confrontation.

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  14. lovely's avatar lovely says:
    May 23, 2016 at 11:17 am

    http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/freddie-gray/bs-md-ci-nero-verdict-20160521-story.html

    Officer Nero Not Guilty on All Charges! Woo Hoo! Smart, smart attorney demanded a bench trial.

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  16. Stella's avatar stella says:
    May 23, 2016 at 12:50 pm

    More about Washington State Anti-Trumpers

    Anti-Trump Christian Leader Was In Radical Group Students For A Democratic Society (SDS)

    http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/05/23/anti-trump-religious-leader-radical-sixties-group-students-democratic-society-sds1/

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  17. auscitizenmom's avatar auscitizenmom says:
    May 23, 2016 at 1:32 pm

    Remember the article from a couple days ago about Michelle Obama’s new labels that she was so proud of. As usual, just another way to infringe on business.
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/05/23/scientists-michelle-obamas-nutrition-facts-label-not-based-on-science.html

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  18. auscitizenmom's avatar auscitizenmom says:
    May 23, 2016 at 2:09 pm

    I saw this Woodward/Howard Kurtz interview yesterday and couldn’t find it to post. I thought it was good because he kinda twists his words around about Trump needing to be vetted and about vetting Hillery. He’s looking for dirt on Trump, plain and simple. Oh, and he says there was no intent by Hillery to give out secrets like what she did was ok.
    http://video.foxnews.com/v/4907431984001/woodward-on-trump-probe/?intcmp=hpvid1#sp=show-clips

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  19. The Tundra PA's avatar The Tundra PA says:
    May 23, 2016 at 3:48 pm

    Menagerie and Stella, thanks so much for your responses yesterday to my question about whether Saints Peter and Paul knew each other. I have read Galatians before, but had to go back last night and re-read. Thanks so much for the direction and the additional links. I plan to explore Marypages further.

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    • Menagerie's avatar Menagerie says:
      May 23, 2016 at 9:47 pm

      Tundra, I think I mentioned this before, but not sure. For really great information on Peter and Paul and their roles in building the early church, you really need to watch Catholicism by Father (now Bishop) Robert Barron. I think that segment is on the first DVD. You can buy the whole set, or each separate one. Surely a library would have the collection too. If you haven’t seen it, it’s worth your time. And the locations are breathtaking.

      In September he has a new video about the pivotal players in Catholicism. Can’t wait for that.

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      • The Tundra PA's avatar The Tundra PA says:
        May 23, 2016 at 10:21 pm

        DH and I are about half way through the series. My RCIA sponsor loaned it to us. It is visually stunning and I learn new things in each episode. I need to go back and watch the first episode again.

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        • Menagerie's avatar Menagerie says:
          May 23, 2016 at 10:37 pm

          I checked, and I was wrong. It is Episode 5, not sure which disc that is, but maybe the third one? You may not have gotten to it yet.

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          • The Tundra PA's avatar The Tundra PA says:
            May 23, 2016 at 11:21 pm

            We’re up to Episode 8. Must have missed that detail in the veritable feast of information and visual stimuli. Thanks. I’m also reading Fr. Barron’s accompanying book Catholicism, A Journey to the Heart of the Faith. I thought it would be a print version of the videos, but it isn’t. It’s a deeper look. I’m really enjoying it.

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  20. Stella's avatar stella says:
    May 23, 2016 at 9:29 pm

    McCaughey septuplets graduate high school 18 years after they beat the odds to become the world’s first set to ALL survive infancy

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3605107/McCaughey-septuplets-graduate-high-school-18-years-doctors-feared-not-survive.html#ixzz49WirtTyz

    I can’t imagine having seven teenagers in the house all at once. They seem to have turned out really well, and good luck to them!

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