General Discussion, Friday, April 22, 2022

Posted on April 22, 2022 by Stella

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  1. WeeWeed's avatar WeeWeed says:
    April 22, 2022 at 8:22 am

    Mornin’ y’all!

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  2. auscitizenmom's avatar auscitizenmom says:
    April 22, 2022 at 8:35 am

    Mornin’ All. 70* and sunny here, as usual. Loki seems back to normal. After our walk, she gobbled up all her breakfast and now is ready for a morning nap. The news is mostly dismal and some just crazy. This whole CNN thing is totally weird. And, it seems to get weirder with each newsbit on it. The same with Disney World. What were they thinking??? Well, hope you all have sunshine and nice weather today.

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  3. Pa Hermit's avatar Pa Hermit says:
    April 22, 2022 at 10:56 am

    Mornin’ all, 58 now, gonna get to mid 60’s then nice weekend!

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  4. Stella's avatar Stella says:
    April 22, 2022 at 11:24 am

    Sunny now, but we are expecting rain this afternoon. High of 55 today, but supposed to be 82 tomorrow! This is that strange time of the year weather wise.

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  5. Stella's avatar Stella says:
    April 22, 2022 at 1:01 pm

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    • Stella's avatar Stella says:
      April 22, 2022 at 1:12 pm

      I have read the bill, and I am not sure that this is true. Here is a link to the bill, so that you can read it yourself:

      https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=202120220AB2223

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      • G-dandCountry's avatar G-dandCountry says:
        April 22, 2022 at 5:01 pm

        “SEC. 7. Section 123467 is added to the Health and Safety Code, to read:
        123467. (a) Notwithstanding any other law, a person shall not be subject to civil or criminal liability or penalty, or otherwise deprived of their rights, rights under this article, based on their actions or omissions with respect to their pregnancy or actual, potential, or alleged pregnancy outcome, including miscarriage, stillbirth, or abortion, or perinatal death.” The last word “death” has a strikethrough and “death due to a pregnancy-related cause.” is added in blue.
        Even if this phrase is a replacement, considering the radical interpretation of law, It is not reaching far to think some judge or D.A. would rule that without pregnancy, the child would not exist, therefore outright killing it is a “pregnancy-related cause”. Maybe the mother is “stressed” or “depressed” due to her pregnancy, doesn’t want the child anymore, and thinks it’s easier to throw it in the trash rather than give it up. This does happen! (and yes some mothers do go crazy after birth for medical reasons, but that’s not what I’m talking about). They could have been more specific, but they chose not to. They could have added here killing the child is criminal, but they chose not to. There is a whole lot of wishy-washy, poorly designed language in this bill which is on purpose in my opinion. The more vague and confusing, the more easily interpreted to whatever you want.
        https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3322517/ states: “The perinatal period, broadly defined, encompasses the time frame from one year before to 18 to 24 months after the birth of the child.”

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      • G-dandCountry's avatar G-dandCountry says:
        April 22, 2022 at 5:18 pm

        I just found this https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/attorneys-warn-amended-california-abortion-bill-could-still-legalize-infanticide/ Attorneys warn amended California abortion bill could still legalize infanticide. “In my view, this revision lessens, but does not eliminate, the concerns regarding infanticide,” Thomas More Society Special Counsel Charles LiMandri, a partner at LiMandri and Jonna LLP, told LifeSiteNews on Tuesday. “This is because the broad phrase ‘perinatal death’ is still in the Bill, and the new modifying phrase ‘due to a pregnancy-related cause,’ is sufficiently ambiguous.”

        Also in Maryland: https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/babies-could-be-killed-28-days-after-being-born-under-proposed-maryland-law-attorney-warns/
        Legislation proposed in the Maryland Senate would allow babies to be left to die for as long as the first 28 days after birth, according to analysis from a pro-life attorney. “[T]he bill also proposes a revision of the fetal murder/manslaughter statute that would serve to handcuff the investigation of infant deaths unrelated to abortion,” American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ) attorney Olivia Summers wrote in her analysis.

        This is because the legislation prohibits investigations and criminal prosecutions for women and medical professionals for a “failure to act” in relation to a “perinatal death.”
        “In other words, a baby born alive and well could be abandoned and left to starve or freeze to death,” Summers wrote, “and nothing could be done to punish those who participated in that cruel death.” She said that the language used is unclear, so the law could be interpreted to “prevent investigations into the death of infants at least seven days AFTER their birth, and may extend to infants as old as four weeks!”

        The Maryland Code does not define “perinatal,” Summers said. A 2020 law does define “perinatal care” as the “provision of care during pregnancy, labor, delivery, and postpartum and neonatal periods.”

        “There is absolutely no reason for Maryland Senate Bill 669’s attempt to prevent someone who lets their baby die from being investigated,” Summers said. ”This bill just further exposes the complete lack of regard abortion advocates have for innocent human life.” “Under the Safe Haven law, a distressed parent who is unable or unwilling to care for their infant can safely give up custody of their baby, no questions asked,” the Maryland Department of Human Services explains. “Newborns can be left at hospitals or law enforcement stations.”

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