General Discussion, Sunday, July 12, 2020

Posted on July 12, 2020 by Stella

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  1. lovely says:
    July 12, 2020 at 6:27 am

    My favorites!

    A repeat from yesterday.

    Good morning Stella and Stellars, have a beautiful day, I think it is supposed to cool off some here !

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    • Lucille says:
      July 12, 2020 at 8:32 am

      Good morning, lovely! Beautiful close-up of your sunflower.

      The day here should be bearable…or at least I hope it will since I’ll be sleeping most of the daylight hours. I never went to bed last night, but sat up reading articles, watching music videos, viewing several episodes of MIDSOMER MURDERS season 18 and its usual mayhem. My eyes are puffballs and I’m half-crazed but…c’est la vie!

      Have a great one!

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      • lovely says:
        July 12, 2020 at 8:40 am

        That Lucille 🙂 ! Getting ready to turn off the air and open windows!! Woo hoo!

        Midsomer Murders is a great series, for me though never the same after Troy and then the original Barnaby left the show.

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        • Lucille says:
          July 12, 2020 at 9:13 am

          As the murders pile up one on the other in these new episodes, it gets to be a comedy. Yes, I miss Troy but I also like the 2nd fiddle in the episodes airing now, whose name is escaping me at the moment. Go to bed, Lucille!

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        • Ad rem says:
          July 13, 2020 at 2:18 am

          I LOVE Midsomer Murders!!! I was a big fan of Det. Jones, and of course the original Tom Barnaby. The first 5 or 6 seasons were pure gold.

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          • lovely says:
            July 14, 2020 at 3:14 am

            Good to see you Rem 🙂 !! My girls all got a kick out of the major crush I had on Tom Barnaby! Troy was my favorite assistant DS! And I agree on the first 5 or 6 seasons, watched it all multiple times.

            Favorite line was Tom Barnaby “It was Salmon!” “Come on Troy, the answer is the Salmon! ” ‘

            Such a clever, funny, and well written show that wasn’t always predictable which made it all the more interesting!

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            • Ad rem says:
              July 14, 2020 at 11:50 am

              Agree….each show was a gem. My RL husband Tom and I watched one again last night. 😀

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              • lovely says:
                July 14, 2020 at 12:24 pm

                On of my daughter’s first crushes was a man who looked just like a young Tom Barnaby 🙃. She didn’t even notice until I pointed it out.

                All of the characters are multilayered from the boys to Cully and Joyce. And the characters that come into town are just so not Hollywood that it gives the show an authentic feel to it.

                I need to watch some again. Haven’t in a while. Hmm…..

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      • lovely says:
        July 12, 2020 at 10:34 am

        Should read “Thank you, Lucille.” Not “that” 😜

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  2. WeeWeed says:
    July 12, 2020 at 6:57 am

    Mornin’ y’all! From Clarice – “baboons showing their rears to zoogoers,” indeed.

    https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/07/stay_angry_not_dispirited.html

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    • lovely says:
      July 12, 2020 at 7:58 am

      Morning Wee 🙂 !

      Immediately reminded me of Jeb The Baboon 🙂 !

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    • Lucille says:
      July 12, 2020 at 9:02 am

      Good morning, WeeWeed! There is absolutely no legit reason to be dispirited. People simply need to buck up and stop being losers. Harsh? All I know is if I have to hear one more person sniveling about how we’re gonna lose in November or how President Trump isn’t doing this or that right, I’m gonna get even rougher.

      So far underneath my senior gentlewoman exterior there’s a roaring fire of CONTROLLED anger at those who are losing their heads and falling victim to media lies and deceit. Presently I’m an ocean of external calm. But people just better stop bugging me with nonsense.

      Rant over, maybe!

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  3. Lucille says:
    July 12, 2020 at 8:14 am

    Stellars…

    Though a person would likely be alarmed to see such super cell clouds gathering before him, they really are quite beautiful. The photo was taken in South Dakota

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  5. auscitizenmom says:
    July 12, 2020 at 8:59 am

    Mornin’ everyone. Just hot and muggy here.

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  6. Sharon says:
    July 12, 2020 at 11:30 am

    The Neowise comet was completely obscured by clouds here in the Willamette Valley last night, and the same is forecast for sunset this evening.

    Oh, well. Maybe another time, another comet…..we did get to see Halley’s many years back. Amazing beauty all around us –

    Just changed the nectar in my hummingbird feeder this morning. I may get another one or two feeders – there are lots of hummingbirds around in the summer and anyone who sets out the feeders will have guests. There is also one (the Anna, I think?) that winters over here, so I have seen articles trying to get the word out – that everyone in the NW should NOT take in their feeders when the weather cools down because the permanent residents surely need a dependable source for their nutrition. So I’m trying to get into that habit for the coming wet and cool winter time.

    I maybe shouldn’t mention this because some of you are having such hot weather right now – it’s supposed to be 78 here today. I think it has only gotten out of the 70s one time in the last two weeks – an unusually cool start to summer even for this area. I see by the 10-day forecast that we will be in the 90s next weekend.

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  7. G-dandCountry says:
    July 12, 2020 at 11:40 am

    Morning All! I’m just making it b4 morning right? 😮

    Here are 2 paintings done in the 1700’s by Charles-Amedee-Philippe van Loo (1719-1795) who painted many famous and wealthy people in amazing detail. He painted their embroidered and complex clothing fabric patterns in great detail, but painted a soft and kind face. The first is “Soap Bubbles”

    and the second is “Camera Obscura”

    Camera obscura From Wikipedia ~ Camera obscura, also referred to as pinhole image, is the natural optical phenomenon that occurs when an image of a scene at the other side of a screen (or, for instance, a wall) is projected through a small hole in that screen as a reversed and inverted image (left to right and upside down) on a surface opposite to the opening. The surroundings of the projected image have to be relatively dark for the image to be clear, so many historical camera obscura experiments were performed in dark rooms. Camera obscura is from the Latin camera obscūra, “dark chamber”).
    Before the term “camera obscura” was first used in 1604. A camera obscura device without a lens but with a very small hole is sometimes referred to as a “pinhole camera”, although this more often refers to simple (home-made) lens-less cameras in which photographic film or photographic paper is used.
    The term “camera obscura” also refers to constructions or devices that make use of the principle within a box, tent, or room. Camera obscuras with a lens in the opening have been used since the second half of the 16th century and became popular as an aid for drawing and painting. The camera obscura box was developed further into the photographic camera in the first half of the 19th century when camera obscura boxes were used to expose light-sensitive materials to the projected image.

    Have a great day everyone! 🙂
    Have to run and start lunch – I’m late!

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  8. stella says:
    July 12, 2020 at 1:06 pm

    I’m asking for prayers for me personally and advice, if you have it.

    Friday night we had heavy rain over a short period, and our local sewer system couldn’t handle it. As it happened to me and many others in 2014, I had a sewer backup into my basement which topped a foot of water, and I think my furnace is destroyed again.

    I do have insurance with a thousand dollar deductible, but it covers only $5,000. The cost for cleanup alone (I’m using ServPro) will meet and perhaps overtop that amount. Of course I then have to cover the cost of a new furnace and probably a water heater. Maybe also my washer and dryer.

    I do have the money to cover the cost, but my concern is this: How do I guarantee that this doesn’t happen to me again? I think I will call in a plumber to discuss the problem. There is an old toilet in the basement which is where most of the water seems to be coming from. If I remove it, will the water then continue on up to the first floor? I have a curb that my furnace and water heater sit on, but the water overtopped it. Is there some way to protect the new furnace, if one is needed?

    I welcome any and all advice and prayer for my sanity.

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    • stella says:
      July 12, 2020 at 1:08 pm

      PS: I will also have the plumber check the drains on my property and my plumbing mechanicals.

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      • G-dandCountry says:
        July 12, 2020 at 1:34 pm

        When this happened in the prior town I lived to someone else, I researched what was needed (this was about 12 years ago). There are one way valves that can be put in the sewer outflow line between your house and the town sewer line as it exits your house so if there is a back up the pressure actually closes it tight. There was no problem doing that in that town, but I would check with your town’s regulations.

        I would also check to see if there is any compensation given by the town, or if it is a community/development system, to the people whose basements flooded.

        Unless serve pro is going to take apart your washer and dryer and clean them, I would throw them out. We did not have a dryer growing up until I was in college. In the winter there were 2 hook screws on opposite ends of the hall painted the wall color and we hung our clothes to dry & then popped off the line & rolled it up. I would NEVER have a dryer in a basement.

        You can raise raise the furnace up on a concrete pad (water heater etc also). We have water alarms (cheap at hardware stores) around in the basement, under sinks, and at washer, however I close the water line to washer (just behind washer on wall) after each wash.

        I don’t mean to scare you, and I’m sure you know you can get very sick from a sewage back-up. Please take care of yourself.

        The big thing is to get that one way valve put in.

        Good luck, we’ll be praying for you. Let us know how it goes, and if you need any other ideas.

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        • stella says:
          July 12, 2020 at 2:02 pm

          I have a gas dryer that went through 2 feet of water six years ago. I had one small repair done to it a couple of years ago. The washer is comparatively new (since 2014 flood.)

          I have a concrete pad under my furnace and water heater already, but the water topped that. I’m not sure I could make it any taller and still be able to fit the furnace in the basement. Honestly, in a case like this I don’t think water alarms would do much because I couldn’t possibly stop this. The water comes in so fast that the sump pump can’t keep up. I have another sump pit with a bad pump, so I suppose I could replace that pump. I thought I had a backflow valve, but perhaps it is broken. Will check that out with the plumber.

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          • G-dandCountry says:
            July 12, 2020 at 2:19 pm

            Just some thoughts: When we bought this house the washer & dryer were in the basement, and we had it moved to the 1st floor. We copied what a friend did by using one end of a rectangular room, turning it into a square room, and a separate laundry area just big enough for the w/d and a space between. They put bookcases (we put 2 armoires) on the new wall between the 2 rooms to block noise. The door is in the middle between the w & d. You might want to look at having mechanical systems moved upstairs since all the work is being done now. My aunt has a small cape, but found varied places to bring her mechanicals upstairs once she was no longer able to walk up & downstairs.

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            • stella says:
              July 12, 2020 at 2:22 pm

              If I had a larger home, I would consider it. My house is less than 800 square feet with a tiny bath and two small bedrooms. All the rooms are small. Unless I turned one bedroom into a mechanical room, it wouldn’t be possible.

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              • G-dandCountry says:
                July 12, 2020 at 3:34 pm

                Oh bummer. My aunt used a closet for the w/d and another closet for the water heater. I don’t know where the furnace went.

                I love electric radiant heat panels from https://electricheat.com/products/cove-mount/
                I have 3 of them. I would have my whole house heated like this if I could. They are popular in Canada and the northern USA. I loved having an all electric house when I had one. People thought my bills were huge, but when compared, ours were always less. No furnace or gas lines to worry about, and no stinky oil tank & deliveries.

                Do you have an attic? Some people put mechanicals in the attic, but I don’t know about if heat/ac is needed in winter or summer. The only ones I’ve seen are in big mcmansions that have a system in the basement and another in the attic – that’s what my friend has.

                Hope these ideas help.
                Have to run now…
                {{{hugs}}} to you, & take care

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                • stella says:
                  July 12, 2020 at 3:41 pm

                  All electric? I think it depends on your electric costs. My latest electric bill is $176 dollars for air conditioning and lighting in my small house. I have never had a bill this large.

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        • stella says:
          July 12, 2020 at 2:07 pm

          ServPro sprayed some kind of stuff in the basement yesterday to protect against bacteria and mold, and put two dehumidifiers down there along with a huge air scrubber in the basement and another one up here.

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        • stella says:
          July 12, 2020 at 2:12 pm

          Does anybody know if there is some kind of pan that would fit under a furnace to act as a water dam?

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          • G-dandCountry says:
            July 12, 2020 at 2:26 pm

            I don’t know. My 1st thought if one existed would be it would have to be fire resistant to meet fire code. There may also need to be proper air flow around the unit as well as the heat concern. A heating guy would know.

            Some good info here but only talks of raising the units.:

            Click to access FEMA_P312_Chap_9.pdf

            This site has info, but I have not used it before:
            https://inspectapedia.com/heat/Flood_Damaged_Heater_Repair.php

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            • stella says:
              July 12, 2020 at 2:49 pm

              Thanks for all of your help!

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            • stella says:
              July 12, 2020 at 3:19 pm

              I contacted a local heating/cooling/plumbing contractor to possibly come out on Tuesday or Wednesday after the cleanup is done. I explained my situation and asked that they primarily consider repair of my furnace and water heater (if needed). Also asked for suggestions to prevent another occurrence.

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              • jeans2nd says:
                July 12, 2020 at 7:31 pm

                Have you considered a sump pump? Granted, it would not be used very often, but it might be cheaper than replacing all those appliances every few years.

                My basement sewer backed up once, and i called the durn city and told them to fix it now.
                The guy came right out – it was a holiday weekend – and explained the diff types of sewer water (the color tells much), and proved it was my front yard tree causing the probs.
                Tree came right out, no more sewer probs.
                Hope you find some good guys to help.

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                • stella says:
                  July 12, 2020 at 7:35 pm

                  I have a sump pump. The water coming in overwhelmed its ability to pump it out. The downstairs toilet was a fountain, pumping gallons of water a minute into my basement. You have no idea!! I have another old sump pit with a non-working sump pump and am considering adding a new one there. I have to talk with a plumber to decide the best solution.

                  There are many people in my area with the same problem today. When I called the police dept (off hours contact for DPW), the lady there told me that the police station was flooding too. I called twice and was told DPW was on their way. Nobody ever arrived.

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                • stella says:
                  July 12, 2020 at 7:38 pm

                  PS: I have a waterproofed basement, and I had the sump pump replaced less than 2 weeks ago.

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                  • jeans2nd says:
                    July 12, 2020 at 7:50 pm

                    Wow. Out of ideas. Never have experienced any probs without a quick, fast fix – except the drugs, of course.
                    Sending prayers.

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  9. czarowniczy says:
    July 12, 2020 at 2:46 pm

    Woo! Hot up here on the top of our hill. Thermo-meter shows 98 with 53% humidity, converting to perceived temp of 115.5F (46.4C makes it sound more comfortable). Trees on 3 sides keep the breeze out unless it comes from the north and that ain’t the case today. Plus we’re smack in the middle of a 1 acre clearing that faces south sooooooooo…

    Ah well, AC’s a blowin’ and we’re limiting our time outside so it’s nothing major. I just remember last summer when the AC went south and it took over a week to get the replacement part in…THAT was uncomfortable.

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  10. G-dandCountry says:
    July 12, 2020 at 4:45 pm

    I don’t remember seeing this anywhere. It needs to be pushed up the media chain sorry if you all know:

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/07/young-white-mother-killed-black-lives-matter-mob-allegedly-saying-lives-matter-national-media-fully-ignores/

    Young White Mother Killed By Black Lives Matter Mob for Allegedly Saying ‘All Lives Matter,’ National Media Fully Ignores
    By Cassandra Fairbanks Published July 11, 2020 at 10:12pm

    Violence and murder is NOT a response anyone should accept as normal! This is what happens when corrupt politicians control the police.

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  14. auscitizenmom says:
    July 12, 2020 at 9:36 pm

    Cripes! This is kindle is hard to work with. 😦

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  15. Lucille says:
    July 12, 2020 at 10:17 pm

    Missouri: Cops Protect Protesters Painting Blue Line Over Black Lives Matter Street Grafitti
    By Jim Hoft – Published July 12, 2020 at 7:58pm

    This was in Florissant, Missouri a suburb north of St. Louis City.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/07/missouri-cops-protect-protesters-painting-blue-line-black-lives-matter-street-grafitti/

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