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Awesome.
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It sounds like Chief Justice Roberts is about to be stripped of any power in the Senate. I guess now I know why Schiff keeps begging for him to be a one man SCOTUS.
https://pjmedia.com/trending/betrayal-chief-justice-roberts-blocks-gop-senators-questions-about-whistleblower/
Here is the actual question Paul asked that I found on Breitbart:
Manager Schiff and Counsel for the President, are you aware that House Intelligence Committee staffer Shawn Misko had a close relationship with Eric Ciaramella when at the National Security Council together, and are you aware and how do you respond to reports that Ciaramella and Misko may have worked together to plot impeaching the President before there were formal House impeachment proceedings?”
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So, they know this is the “whistleblower”?
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Is the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court so stupid that he doesn’t understand by denying this question he just admitted that he knows one or both of these people are the whistleblower?
What I was told by a friend pretty high up in the political ranks:
Immediately after he denied to read Senator Paul’s question, Republican Senators phones lit up and have continued to be lit up. Senators have been shocked how many of their constituents are paying so close attention to every second of this trial.
One Senator apparently joked it’s making it harder for DNC employees to leave them vulgar messages.
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Correction Senator aide.
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LOL
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As soon as this crap show is over, I’m going to request a meeting with my Senators and tell them they best start informing the others they best call all of these people in and expose the coupe. POTUS must demand his DOJ charge them or fire all of them.
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4:50 PM THIS is the one and only pertinent question that was just asked:
“How can the Senate be accused of a cover-up if the Senate makes its decision on the same evidence the House did?” Mic drop……boom. Over and done as far as I am concerned. Immediate vote for aquittal.
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Just heard that Collins and Romney say they are voting for witnesses. Alexander said he’s a no. So that leaves Murkowski who says she will have her decision in the morning. If she votes yes then that’s 50-50, unless a Democrat crosses over.
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You know who breaks a tie in the senate.
Romney is vile.
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From what I’m reading nobody really knows the rules of this impeachment. VP Pence can’t break the tie.
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Thanks Michelle I didn’t know this.
So the Chief Justice broke a tie in the past. Interesting.
Roberts is a turncoat bastard Bush loyalist.
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Exactly, but I was thinking this morning that it wouldn’t be very smart for him to do so and I’m not sure he would want to. The fake Indian might have helped that cause along by her stupid question about him and SCOTUS.
If this charade is allowed and with his help as he already ticked off one side by refusing Sen. Paul’s question and if he went against Republicans and furthered this sham to drag out, guess who else could be impeached without breaking any laws?
Not to mention then if there is another tie on particular witnesses, some of which should require a court review over Executive Privilege then he would be making himself by all rights unjust to rule on due to his decisions in the Senate. If he recused himself or not then he would certainly weaken the SCOTUS.
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Ok just thinking this though a little more, a tie should lawfully (if procedure is followed) end in favor of the measure not being passed as the senate does not have a majority of votes to further its agenda. The question being put forward is “Should we call witnesses?” They lawfully need a majority of votes to call witnesses, if they don’t have it the measure doesn’t pass so there is really no reason for a tie breaker.
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It should be that way and like I pointed out above there are reasons for Roberts to refuse to do so that could personally harm him and the court.
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Something else I was thinking about after reading Collins statement again is that some Democrats are not going to want witnesses. She said witnesses for both sides. Any and all witnesses POTUS wants would pass with the majority. The fear of Schiff, his staff, the Whistleblower, Bidens, IG, Vindman and an open door for team POTUS to get access to all of their records is enough for Schumer to give the nod to Democrat senators to vote against witnesses.
I think this is even more of a show that both sides are playing against us, McConnell and Schumer both want their talking points and fund raising.
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I posted about this a couple of days ago, this is all show at this point, Jay Sekulow put an end to the Demon’s Dreams when he pointed directly at Adam Schiff and said I want to call Adam Schiff, Joe Biden, Hunter Biden and the whistle blower to the stand.
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It’s all over. Murkowski is a NO.
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Just saw that here on your blog. 🙂 .
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What would really be funny, if it wasn’t for the fact this sham needs to end, would be for them to call witnesses, but the demon side gets the witnesses and documents they used in the House. Team POTUS gets all they want, Schiff and his staff and all documents, Whistleblower and all his financial and communication records, Bidens and anyone else they want.
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Pence would break the tie, right?
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Not allowed during an impeachment trial.
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So what happens if it is a tie?
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I don’t know. I’m reading that it depends on what the rules the Senate passed are and apparently nobody knows, because some are saying a tie means not enough votes to call witnesses and others are saying Chief Justice can break the tie if he chooses to.
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I went to the Senate and read everything, but can’t find anything about ties.
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Apparently even the Senators don’t know.
https://pjmedia.com/trending/breaking-key-gop-senators-announce-impeachment-witness-votes-game-over/
[Update]: A note on Senate rules: With the “World’s Greatest Deliberative Body” split 53-45 in favor of Republicans, three GOP defections would result in a tie — four would allow the Democrats to prevail. With Alexander out of play, a tie seems unlikely unless the Dems can secure another defection before the vote. What happens if there’s a tie? No one really knows.
“Is it possible we’ll have a 50-50 vote? Of course,” said Sen. John Kennedy (R-La.) said last week. “What’ll happen after that, I don’t think anyone knows.”
Normally when there’s a tie, the vice president casts the deciding vote, but with Chief Justice John Roberts prevailing over the impeachment trial, Democrats have been making the case that he should cast the deciding vote. Would he want to insert himself into such a high-profile vote? We would hope not, but we all remembered what happened with the Obamacare SCOTUS decision. John “Really, It’s a Tax!” Roberts ensured that his legacy would be enabling government-run healthcare. Stay tuned.
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As you say, there are different opinions.
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I found this article with more Senators weighing in. I guess Chief Justice Chase broke ties in the impeachment of Andrew Johnson.
https://ktvz.com/politics/2020/01/30/what-happens-if-theres-a-tie-vote-on-witnesses-at-trumps-impeachment-trial/
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On FOX and FRIENDS this morning, they said that in a tie Roberts can vote to break it or not. If he won’t vote, the impeachment fails.
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There seems to be different opinions on it even with Democrat Senators.
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My best understanding is that there is no written law as to what happens in the case of a tie.
Precedent is that the Chief Justice has broken ties.
I read a point of view which seems to be very reasonable, and legally sound, this is part of a process, the Senate has to have a majority of votes to demand witnesses. 50 is not a majority so the vote would fail and there would be no need for a tie breaker.
Thankfully it is a done point, regardless of law and facts, a tie would have been a nightmare scenario giving the democrats more time to showboat, lie and smear President Trump.
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I remember her asking it and thought at the time that sounded like she would be voting no, but then she played the whole she wanted to think about it overnight.
I’m reading some talking about it on FB and there is actually some from Alabama saying they think Jones will vote against thinking it will get him elected and some from Arizona thinking Sinema will vote against, especially if it looks like there will be a tie.
Cruz seems to think they will have the votes.
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Also Joe Manchin. But who knows?
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Yep, I forgot about him. I heard someone today say that he was getting tons of pressure to vote against witnesses and convicting the President.
I read on FB someone called into C-Span today and said that the Democrat party should be ended. I thought that would be nice, we should force them to call themselves either the Communist party or Socialist Party, because that’s what they are and then force RINOS to join them. lol
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