General Discussion, Thursday, December 26, 2019

Posted on December 26, 2019 by Stella

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  1. nyetneetot's avatar nyetneetot says:
    December 26, 2019 at 12:56 am

    Mornin’ stella! (Smiter of those that ought to be smote) 😎 🍸 (Long Island Iced Tea)
    Mornin’ WeeWeed! (Master Mixologist Extrodinare) 😎 🍸 (Old Fashioned)
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    Mornin’ Ad rem! (Queen Felis catus) 🐱 🍸 (Flaming Lamborghini)
    Mornin’ Sharon! 😎 🍸 🍸 (earthquake)
    Mornin’ ytz4mee! 😎 🍸 (cosmopolitan)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! 🙂 🍸 (white wine and perrier)
    Mornin’ partyzantski! 🙂 |_| (Tom Collins)
    Mornin’ texan59! 🙂 |_| (Black & Tan)
    Mornin’ ZurichMike! 🙂 🍸 (fuzzy navel)
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    Mornin’ lovely! 🙂 |_| (Backdraft)
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    Mornin’ auscitizenmom! 🙂 🍸 (Kiss on the Lips)
    Mornin’ Margaret-Ann! 🙂 🍸 (White Russian)
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    Mornin’ derk! (“Stellars”) 🙂 🍸 (Kamikaze)
    Mornin’ Jacqueline Taylor Robson 🙂 🍸 (Shirley Temple)
    Mornin’ facebkwallflower! 🙂 |_| (Night Train Express)
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    Mornin’ litenmaus! 🙂 |_| (Stolichnaya elit, no ice)
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    Mornin’ Lucille! 🙂 🍸 (Peach Schnapps)
    Mornin’ Lburg! 🙂 🍸 (Lburg lemonade)
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    Mornin’ skipper1961! 🙂 |_| (Brompton’s Cocktail – No cherry, no umbrella, no plastic monkey)
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    Mornin’ NC Nana! 🙂 🍸 (Beautiful)
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    Mornin’ Angel at the Gates of War! 🙂 🍸 (Night Train Express)
    Mornin’ whiners and complainers! 😛 (No drink for you!)
    Mornin’ to people posting that I missed. 😳
    Mornin’ to all you lurkers! 😕

    Also just in case someday; mornin’ to Elvis Chupacabra, F.D.R. in Hell and sundance! :mrgreen:

    Breakfast!

    NEW and IMPROVED breakfast with extra bacon for ZurichMike!

    Christmas Donuts

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  2. czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
    December 26, 2019 at 1:23 am

    Local news did an interesting piece tonite, I guess they put it on later in the night so that it wouldn’t prove to be a ‘bummer’ to the Christmas day.

    In 1982 some 1800 Marines were deployed top Beirut, Lebanon as a peacekeeping force. In December a local news team deployed to Beirut to do a local filler piece on local Marines who’d be deployed for Christmas. They videoed messages for the Marines from their families/friends and recorded the Marines viewing them. They them in their daily chores, recorded the Xmas events that were put on for the holidays and general life in the camp.

    For many of the friends/families this was the last they see of their loved ones in Beirut as just over ten months to the day Iranian-backed Islamic terrorists would drive 2 truck bombs into their barracks and murdered 241 Marines and Navy personnel.

    The news went to Arlington a week or so back and videoed family members placing wreaths and flags on the graves of the personnel buried in Arlington at the section reserved for the barracks bombing victims and at a local cemetery where families chose to bring their loved ones home to.

    The Beirut bombing is over 36 years ago, ancient history to most of today’s people under 50, but there are still many family member, friends and comrades for whom it’s as real as yesterday.

    Footnote: In 2007 a Federal judge ruled that due to findings that Iran was behind the bombings, $2.65-billion in Iranian funds impounded in the US could be seized to satisfy suits that US family members of the murdered had filed and won filed against Iran. The judgement was appealed all of the way to the US Supreme Court and was confirmed but the amount the plaintiffs are to receive has been steadily whittled down. Even with the SCOTUS giving the OK the issue of which accounts will be seized, how the funds will be distributed and when/if are still up in the air.

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    • Lucille's avatar Lucille says:
      December 26, 2019 at 2:41 am

      Did the newscast give any ideas as to what could be done to set some fire under those responsible for a successful conclusion? The money is likely not even available anymore seeing as BHO sent all that cash to Iran.

      How about sending the info to https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/ and let the President know with a copy to the Secretary of Defense? There doesn’t seem to be an email address for Mark Esper, though.

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      • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
        December 26, 2019 at 11:03 am

        The news didn’t cover the cas issue, I just threw that ion as as aside. The money’s hostage to the government, the different layers of the courts and bureaucracy more or less own it and it’s almost impossible to get at.

        The politics of such a huge pile of cash is more important than its equitable distribution to the next of kin, they’re irrelevant in the bigger picture – we just don’t understand.

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    • lovely's avatar lovely says:
      December 26, 2019 at 8:12 am

      Thank you Czar, never let them be forgotten.

      The BS bureaucracy keeping the money from these families is infuriating.

      Reading this brings to the forefront Obama sending pallets of cash to the vile human filth of Iran.

      One day..even if it is behind the curtain of this life the Obamas and Mullahs, the oligarchs and the Coup Crew, (but I repeat myself) will reap the consequences of their evil deeds.

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      • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
        December 26, 2019 at 10:49 am

        Most of the obfuscation occurred during the
        Obama administration when the award was whittled down from about $1.75-billion to $900-millionish but the lawyers are still raking in the fees from both sides while the families are getting nothing.

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        • lovely's avatar lovely says:
          December 26, 2019 at 4:39 pm

          Sickening. ut typical. Something few pole seem to grasp is the reason that tort attorneys are despised has a lot to do with clients not understanding the pay structure of a settlement and that very often the attorney comes out several miles ahead of the injured party.

          As to Obama screwing the families of fallen patriots I am sure he did it with a song in his dark despicable coal black soul.

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    • Sharon's avatar Sharon says:
      December 26, 2019 at 11:03 pm

      One of my older son’s schoolmates was killed in Beirut that day. My son told me, years later, that was a primary motivation in his choice to become a Marine.

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      • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
        December 26, 2019 at 11:06 pm

        I was on active duty for a 6 year stint and helping prepare the unit for its new role in the still shiny new CENTCOM. We all wanted to go but the NCA just decided to sit still and slink off.

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  3. Lucille's avatar Lucille says:
    December 26, 2019 at 2:20 am

    “View From the Sleiigh”

    “Shadow In the Snow”


    John Burroughs (1837-1921) was an American naturalist and nature essayist, active in the U.S. conservation movement.

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  6. Menagerie's avatar Menagerie says:
    December 26, 2019 at 9:36 am

    Happy second day of Christmas everyone. Now to recover from the excesses of day one.

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  7. litenmaus's avatar litenmaus says:
    December 26, 2019 at 10:39 am

    I decided that on Christmas day, I was going to prepare a Christmas feast. I went to town the week before and bought a lovely roasting chicken in anticipation of the big day and yesterday afternoon I popped the chicken in the oven, set the timer and went about my day.

    At 6:30 the timer went off. I went to take the chicken out only to find that the oven was cold and the chicken was raw…., I guess I forgot to turn on the oven..It’s the little things that trip me up…every…single…time…

    Today, (fingers crossed) I’m going to prepare myself a lovely Christmas dinner….:0)

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    • Menagerie's avatar Menagerie says:
      December 26, 2019 at 12:46 pm

      Sounds like me litenmaus. I need someone to follow me around and keep me on track. Unfortunately my seven year old granddaughter, who excels at that task, has a life. Come to think of it, pretty much all the grandkids do a decent job at getting me through the day, including the two year old who simply loves to tell people what to do. That trait seems to not skip generations in our family.

      Hope your dinner is most excellent. Hard to beat a great roast chicken. Do you have snow? We had the AC on in the car yesterday. It was upper sixties and sunny, and the car got hot while parked.

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      • litenmaus's avatar litenmaus says:
        December 26, 2019 at 2:24 pm

        Afternoon Menagerie….
        if only I could teach the cats…. …then I’d have it made.

        It snowed yesterday, but it was one of those ‘Christmas card’ snowfalls that only lasted about a hour. Very pretty, however, very cold. No A/C required. :0)

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  8. czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
    December 26, 2019 at 1:36 pm

    Have you ever run to Walmart during a dining emergency looking for a certain fringe bread you needed for a meal? Yeah, yeah, I know, I should have learned the first twenty-three times.

    Anyway, they have basically one white dough recipe that they pound into different shapes and call different names. Looking for a bolillo, a brotchen or eve a local pistolette or baguette? Go to Walmart and get something made from a coarse white dough pounded into an approximate shape that’s defined by the label on the bag. The food dumbing-down of America brought to you by corporate America.

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    • auscitizenmom's avatar auscitizenmom says:
      December 26, 2019 at 1:57 pm

      I had thought that, too. Years ago, I bought a french bread that just felt and tasted like white bread in a french bread shape. Haven’t bought any since.

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      • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
        December 26, 2019 at 2:25 pm

        Their bread is ‘bread’, their French is taste-texturewise indistinguishable from thick Wonder Bread.Then again no one I know of sees Bentonville as a fine cuisine mecca.

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    • Menagerie's avatar Menagerie says:
      December 26, 2019 at 3:11 pm

      Walmart up here don’t even have breads shaped like other breads. You get white, wheat, basic buns, and maybe French. And dining emergency and Walmart should not even be thought of in the same sentence. They don’t even carry good flour up here.

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      • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
        December 26, 2019 at 3:16 pm

        I solve the flour problem by buying online. The bread’s a whole nuther problem. We do get deliveries from the NOLA French bread bakers at the Walmart, one small salvation. Then again we have a smaller grocery store that bakes fresh French bread, it’s managed by an ex-employee of the old flagship NOLA iconic grocery chain so he knows how to get our attention.

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    • Stella's avatar stella says:
      December 26, 2019 at 3:15 pm

      The answer? Bake your own bread.

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      • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
        December 26, 2019 at 3:19 pm

        Sometimes you just can’t rise to the occasion.

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      • Menagerie's avatar Menagerie says:
        December 26, 2019 at 3:48 pm

        We’ll, I baked my first bread in the new house. Yes, I’m more than a year out of practice. But I sure miss my good convection oven. It was better for baking. Something will eventually have to be done about that. Even the husband has it on the list.

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        • Stella's avatar stella says:
          December 26, 2019 at 4:18 pm

          My countertop oven is electric convection, and I use it for small projects. My regular oven is gas/non-convection, and I don’t really like it. My favorite would be an electric oven and a gas stove top.

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        • The Tundra PA's avatar The Tundra PA says:
          December 26, 2019 at 10:49 pm

          Bet your house smelled great! I’m learning (painfully) about convection ovens; new house has one. Seems like the fan blowing air around the whole time dries out meat more than a conventional oven. Do you compensate by cooking at lower temp? Or shorter time? Or cover tightly with foil? My roast chicken yesterday was not juicy, and I was not happy. It was at least cooked though.

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  9. Menagerie's avatar Menagerie says:
    December 26, 2019 at 3:00 pm

    Hey if any of you like shortbread cookies or mincemeat pies Walker’s Shortbread is having a 50% off sale. I ordered some of their Glenfiddich minmeat pies and a box of cookies. Nyet recommended them a year or two ago when I was reminiscing about mincemeat pies.

    I love to cook, but I am not even going to try to assemble all the stuff in those things, especially since I’m the only one who likes them. They make good stuff.

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    • czarina33's avatar czarina33 says:
      December 26, 2019 at 3:18 pm

      GGS and I are making pumpkin pie, his first time. He stated he doesn’t plan to eat any, tho.

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      • auscitizenmom's avatar auscitizenmom says:
        December 26, 2019 at 3:31 pm

        Kids can be funny. My son didn’t want anything to do with Carrot Cake until I got him to take a bite. And, later he loved pumpkin pie, but didn’t want to try sweet potatoes.

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      • Menagerie's avatar Menagerie says:
        December 26, 2019 at 3:51 pm

        My youngest grandson is here. He just talked me into more ginger men, as he calls them. He thinks that is the best thing ever. Too little to understand the association with Christmas, so I imagine he will hit me up for that for some time to come.

        Perhaps we can make Valentine’s treats and then some Easter things. My other grandchildren who are a little older absolutely love to braid challah bread.

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  11. Lucille's avatar Lucille says:
    December 26, 2019 at 4:42 pm

    I posted this next door, but in case you haven’t seen it…

    US suspends export of sniffer dogs to Jordan and Egypt after many die from mistreatment and neglect
    December 25, 2019 by Robert Spencer

    Islam hates dogs: “Once Gabriel promised the Prophet (that he would visit him, but Gabriel did not come) and later on he said, ‘We, angels, do not enter a house which contains a picture or a dog.’” — Sahih Bukhari 4.54.50

    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/12/us-suspends-export-of-sniffer-dogs-to-jordan-and-egypt-after-many-die-from-mistreatment-and-neglect

    I’d like to know what our government means by “temporary.” Do they think that all of a sudden the personnel of these nations are going to change? Fat laugh! If you want my real opinion…the entirety of a country that has indiscriminate killing of “infidels” as part of their belief system is NOT worth the life of even one dog…and ABSOLUTELY not worth any American military death…I object to sending dogs and humans to those nations until they stop believing in such incredible falsehoods and stupidity.

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  12. Stella's avatar stella says:
    December 26, 2019 at 4:48 pm

    Seen on Facebook (language alert):

    CH: “Nation still deeply divided day after vote
    Yeah, I love that trick. The nation’s always “divided” when Dems don’t get what they want.
    I was forced to go to a Christmas party over the weekend and had to listen to some jackhole whine about how “divisive” Trump was and lament that we couldn’t “come together.”
    I unloaded on that nickelfucker – “You want to talk divisive? I hated that dog-eating Kenyan crackhead every moment of the eight years he infested the White House. But you know what I didn’t do, asshole? I didn’t riot in the streets. I didn’t scream “HE’S NOT MY PRESIDENT!” I didn’t gin up some phony, childish “Resistance.” I didn’t go into every damned restaurant and public space where Obama or any of his cabinet were and scream in their faces. And I sure as hell didn’t hijack the FBI to create a phony dossier to impeach him 49 hours after he was inaugurated!
    YOUR filthy party did all of that and more, right from the moment the polls closed and you knew that drunk, morally leprous hag of yours wasn’t going to win. So you can take that fucking ‘divisive’ talk and your crocodile tears about unity and shove them up your ass until you shit blood for a week!”
    Fortunately, I work at home, so I don’t have to run into that clown more than perhaps once a month. But got-DAMN, I am sick of Dems blaming Trump for their own diaper-soiling meltdowns.

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  13. Stella's avatar stella says:
    December 26, 2019 at 5:19 pm

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  15. czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
    December 26, 2019 at 11:03 pm

    All of that pasta talk must have got to me, tonite I made a mac and cheese with Asiago, Havarti, Fontina and cheddar cheeses. It was a baked mac & cheese, I used a beurre blanc with butter and cream, then melted an amount of the cheeses into it that surely would have had any of the nutritionists making nutritional holy signs as they walked by my table.

    The was rotelle, still hot from the stove when the cheese sauce was poured over and mixed into it. Some homemade French bread crumbs and a ton more of the cheese mixture that didn’t go into the sauce went over it and it went into the oven for a cook-thru and browning. Served with a sliced Chisesi ham, roasted balsamic brussel sprouts , roasted sweet potato puree and a New Belgium 1554 beer…I’m still enjoying it.

    Our one-day-late Christmas dinner. Hardly room left for chocolate or pumpkin pie with ice cream.

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      • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
        December 27, 2019 at 11:56 am

        I’ll post that recipe, it’s soooooo good.

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        • lovely's avatar lovely says:
          December 30, 2019 at 6:50 pm

          Yes please! Did you post it already? My power cord died so I wasn’t on the computer much , Amazon came through today with my new power cord!

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          • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
            December 30, 2019 at 10:17 pm

            OK: https://www.food.com/recipe/gourmet-four-cheese-macaroni-and-cheese-392409#activity-feed

            I changed things a bit. I used a milder cheddar, half-and-half instead of milk, added a tsp of garlic powder, instead of salt I used 1 tsp of Sazon Completa and I ignored the nutmeg and cayenne…I am not going to mess with the natural great taste of expensive cheese. I also used at least 4 TBSPs of unsalted butter.

            The Sazon Completa I use is Badia. I use it instead of salt in a lot of stuff. The biggie in it is MSG so if you’re MSG sensitive use salt instead. There’s enough salt in the cheeses and the MSG kicks it up a notch…I’m NOT going to say ‘BAM!’.

            It makes a lot and after you put it into the fridge its tastes meld a bit, it turns into a brick and you can slice it like cheese. You can rewarm it in the microwave, sautee/warm or fry it in butter…use your imagination. You might want to make a half batch the first time to see about varying the seasonings to your taste.

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            • lovely's avatar lovely says:
              December 31, 2019 at 6:30 am

              Oh man!! That looks really good, I’ll cut it in half or share with my friends since it is a large batch. I like your adjustments, I’ll leave the salt add garlic and use heavy whipping cream instead of milk….

              Thank you Czar!

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              • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
                December 31, 2019 at 11:37 am

                If you can find Sazon Completa at your grocery
                (Amazon sells it too)it’s a really great salt sub in many things. I use it in soups, stews, mashed potatoes (doesn’t work well with sweet potatoes), it adds a new depth to a lot of stuff.

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  16. Lucille's avatar Lucille says:
    December 26, 2019 at 11:31 pm

    It’s 76 degrees right now in El Tunco, El Salvador…

    Good night! God bless!

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