General Discussion, Tuesday, October 8, 2019

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  1. Lucille says:

    Google says Stella’s Tuesday picture is of the Lake District National Park with Blea Tarn house in the foreground…however…the following article seems to indicate that Blea Tarn house is white…so maybe it is just a house located in Blea Tarn?…and just in case you want to take a long hike around the area to find out for sure, go to the following for a guide…

    Blea Tarn lies high above Great Langdale on the pass to Wrynose.

    A couple of nice scenes…

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  2. czarowniczy says:

    I posted this nextdoor under a thread regarding a huge Pentagon dinner at the White
    House. I’ve been watching the Pentagon reaction to Trump removing the bulk of troops from Syria and his talking about removing the small remainder now there. The dinner seemed to me to be a bit more than a boy’s night out.

    I’m betting this was, after the doors were closed, a Pentagon/White House ‘Come to Jesus’ meeting and it’s about a week overdue.

    Here at CTH, way back when it was the Kurds bearing the brunt of the anti-ISIS fighting, there were a few of us saying that (a) the RUssians would enter the war and remain solidly entrenched in Syria, (b) that Turkey would push to regain Syria’s eastern provinces it owned under the Ottoman and (c) the Kurds would (again) get thrown under the international bus by the US as they have so often in the past.

    We don’t need the Kurds now, ISIS is flat and the Russians/Syrians are able to deal with what’s left. We obligingly did the lion’s share of the flattening and now the players with the big stakes on the table have agreed to splitting the pot.

    Russia has its Syrian puppet firmly back in the saddle, that was never in doubt, and they’ve enlarged old military installations there and opened new ones to protect their assets.

    Turkey is not going to let the Kurds sit in those eastern provinces, that would give them not only solid positions on two Turkish flanks but a home in those Syrian provinces that Turkey claims. We all sorta winked at the Kurds sitting in them, letting them believe that they’d get them as a reward for taking years of pounding fighting the ISIS battle for us. Now we need Turkey and Turkey’s playing us against the Russians for all it’s worth. The Kurds have zip to trade now, they’ve lost their stake.

    Turkey’s bought Russian A-400 missiles pissing NATO, and the US especially mightily. The US tried to retaliate with refusing to sell F-35s to Turkey so Russia’s dangling the possible sales of SU-035 and SU-57 aircraft to Turkey instead and is selling Turkey ‘peaceful’ nuclear reactors to generate power. That would make Turkey the only NATO nation with Russian equipment…see where this is going?

    It’s looking like Syria and Russia is also dangling the prospect of relinquishing those eastern provinces to Syria under conditions favorable to all parties, added sugar to the mix. So what’s a country that needs Turkey on its sie gonna do?????

    Trump’s moved most US troops out of Syria but the small force that remains is more or less embedded with the Kurds, it relies on the Kurds as its main force when it conducts patrols or sweeps, and if the Turks decide – more like ‘when’ – to move on the Kurds the small US forces are caught in the middle. The longer the Turks have to hold back the more anti-US they become and the more sugar the Russian throw at them. Remember we need Turkey as a block to the Russian’s south, especially for control of the Bosphorus and Dardanelles, and as a base for intel gathering. It’s also the largest military force in the Mideast and a valuable counterweight to other Mideast countries moves.

    The Pentagon was very unhappy when Trump pulled the bulk of US troops out of Syria and sort of broke precedent by letting everyone know it wasn’t happy with the moves of its CinC. Then after a conversation with Erdogan Trump allows the Turks to conduct an operation in the Kurdish areas that the Pentagon was worried the Turks would use to conduct intel operations against the Kurds that could be used in an attack. Trump says the ops are a ‘go’, Erdogan comes to the US and the Pentagon blows a couple of corks and starts openly bad-mouthing Trumps decision…most likely hoping Congress goes after Trump.

    The Pentagon never has been one to understand and ungrudgingly accept the reality of politics. The Kurds are now, as they have been in the past, frequently useful and very expendable pawns. They hold nowhere near the power that Turkey has yet without any other option they regularly get caught up in playing the Wile E. Coyote role. They got it after Desert Storm – though at least we stopped Saddam from killing them – just as they did after we used them in the 2003 invasion and they’re gonna get it now in Syria. They have to play even though they know they can’t win. The Pentagon decided to break protocol and criticize the POTUS’s actions so we have a big show solidarity party of flag officers and crow for the main course.

    I feel for the Kurds just as I do the Yards and Nungs we screwed in Vietnam and the Dawn Cossacks and some 25,000 Allied POWs we threw to the Russians after WW II. Though it was and is all politics it still hurts, it just is what it is. I’m looking to see if there’ll be an uptick in Pentagon retirements in the next few months.

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    • Col.(R) Ken says:

      Czar, outstanding analyses, and historical information. Well done. If I was CIC, the small US force would fall back into the Kurds territory. Set up shop and continue ops. Don’t trust Turkey, Syria. Yes we stopped Iraq from killing them, after the Desert Storm, using mustard gas, and non persistent chemicals……
      In my humble opinion President Trump is receiving bad info. The Kurds have the potential to become an Israeli…….and loyal too the US.

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      • czarowniczy says:

        It’s realpolitik, people don’t like it but it’s the way things are done. I’m sure Trump knows about the Kurds but short of picking them up and bringing them here he’s out of options.

        No one here’s going to alienate iraq, Syria or especially Turkey by taking – or trying to take – their sovereign land to create Turkistan as we did with Israel. Ain’t gonna happen, it has the potential to create a bigger war that would have everyone out there killing Kurds and maybe us with the Russians. We brought thousands of Iraqis here, especially Republican Guard, after Desert Storm when we coulda brought Kurds but a choice was made.

        The Montagnards I worked with in the 60s KNEW we were going to leave them in a lurch, they scrounged spare weapons, ammo and explosives at every opportunity to squirrel away for when we abandoned them, they knew the North was going to slaughter them. After we left they fought on and even though the Russians helped the North to slaughter them with chem/bio weapons we made some squeaks of protest but that was it. It can be a bitch being the ‘friend’ of a major power in a war.

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  3. Lucille says:

    A good article to keep for reference…..

    Warning to Deep State Dems and Coastal Elites: Good Americans Will Not Allow Their Innocent President to Be Impeached by Corrupt Politicians over Nothing!
    by Joe Hoft October 7, 2019

    Americans are beyond angry with the actions the Democrats, elites, the Deep State and their media. President Donald Trump is a great man and the greatest President of this generation. His list of accomplishments is unending and proves his devotion to the country.

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  4. nyetneetot says:

    Mornin’ stella! (Smiter of those that ought to be smote) 😎 🍸 (Long Island Iced Tea)
    Mornin’ WeeWeed! (Master Mixologist Extrodinare) 😎 🍸 (Old Fashioned)
    Mornin’ Menagerie! 😎 |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| (Jack Daniels – Single Barrel)
    Mornin’ Ad rem! (Queen Felis catus) 🐱 🍸 (Flaming Lamborghini)
    Mornin’ Sharon! 😎 🍸 🍸 (earthquake)
    Mornin’ ytz4mee! 😎 🍸 (cosmopolitan)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! 🙂 🍸 (white wine and perrier)
    Mornin’ partyzantski! 🙂 |_| (Tom Collins)
    Mornin’ texan59! 🙂 |_| (Black & Tan)
    Mornin’ ZurichMike! 🙂 🍸 (fuzzy navel)
    Mornin’ Col.(R) Ken! (hand salute) 🙂 |_| (Boilermaker)
    Mornin’ czarina33! (aka czarina) 🙂 🍸 (Lynchburg Lemonade)
    Mornin’ czarowniczy! 🙂 |_| (Wild Turkey Rare Breed)
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    Mornin’ TwoLaine! 🙂 |_| (Gin & Tonic)
    Mornin’ Sha! 🙂 🍸 (Lemon Drop)
    Mornin’ BigMamaTEA! 🙂 🍸 (Harvey Wallbanger)
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    Mornin’ The Tundra PA! 🙂 🍸 (Gentleman Jack Whiskey Sling)
    Mornin’ lovely! 🙂 |_| (Backdraft)
    Mornin’ michellc! 🙂 🍸 (Salty dog)
    Mornin’ auscitizenmom! 🙂 🍸 (Kiss on the Lips)
    Mornin’ Margaret-Ann! 🙂 🍸 (White Russian)
    Mornin’ Auntie Lib! 🙂 🍸 (Tom and Jerry)
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    Mornin’ koolkosherkitchen! 🙂 🍸 🍸 (Cuba Libre)
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    Mornin’ smiley! (“stuck in spambucket”) 🙂 🍸 (Spanish coffee)
    Mornin’ derk! (“Stellars”) 🙂 🍸 (Kamikaze)
    Mornin’ Jacqueline Taylor Robson 🙂 🍸 (Shirley Temple)
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    Mornin’ sandandsea2015! 🙂 🍸 (1961 Château Montrose)
    Mornin’ amwick! 🙂 🍸 (Blue motorcycle)
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    Mornin’ Lucille! 🙂 🍸 (Peach Schnapps)
    Mornin’ Lburg! 🙂 🍸 (Lburg lemonade)
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    Mornin’ skipper1961! 🙂 |_| (Brompton’s Cocktail – No cherry, no umbrella, no plastic monkey)
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    Mornin’ NC Nana! 🙂 🍸 (Beautiful)
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    Mornin’ whiners and complainers! 😛 (No drink for you!)
    Mornin’ to people posting that I missed. 😳
    Mornin’ to all you lurkers! 😕

    Also just in case someday; mornin’ to Elvis Chupacabra, F.D.R. in Hell and sundance! :mrgreen:


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    Pastries for coffee!

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  5. WeeWeed says:

    Mornin’ kids!

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  6. czarina33 says:

    I always think of the work which went into building a house (or really long fence/wall) of stones!

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    • czarowniczy says:

      And here we just had them pour some hundred yards of concrete over a couple of days. There’s something to say for modern times.


  7. czarowniczy says:

    Summer’s sorta going like the space shuttle did trying to leave orbit. The shuttle skipped through the atmosphere using it to brake and slow, we’re getting a few days of low 80s followed by a day or two of low 90s then back to the low 80s again.

    NOAA predictions are showing that from now through the summer of ’20 we’ll have a 50/50 chance of temperatures above/below normal – howzat for prediction?

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  8. Lucille says:

    Lara Trump’s Real News Insights with Ronna McDaniel
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  9. Lucille says:

    US effectively shuts off Turkey from NE Syria airspace
    WASHINGTON-Anadolu Agency – October 08 2019 09:43:00

    The U.S. military has effectively shut Turkey off on Oct. 7 from the air space in northeasternSyria, taking a series of actions that reduce the possibility that Turkish jets could support a planned military operation there.

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  10. auscitizenmom says:

    lilbirdee12’s prayer:

    Our Heavenly Father, Your children come to you tonight to ask for healing and peace throughout our country so that we may return to being One Nation Under God. Guide us to be leaders in Your Kingdom, spreading Your Love and Salvation to all. Forgive us our sins and deliver us from evil.

    Lord, we ask for a blanket of protection over all our troops and law enforcement who serve to defend and protect us. Bless our representatives with the strength and wisdom they need to achieve the path You have chosen for us.

    Please place Your Guardian Angels of Protection around Donald Trump and Mike Pence and their families as they seek to lead America back to You.

    Grant us patience, Lord, as the evil ones try to anger us and cause us to fall.
    Spread blessings over Israel and Netanyahu.

    We humbly ask that You please comfort those who are grieving and in pain.
    Thank you Father, for Your Love and the gift of Life.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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  11. auscitizenmom says:

    A prayer for Justice Kavanaugh and Gen. Flynn:

    Prayer to St. Michael

    St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle;
    be our defense against the wickedness and snares of the devil.
    May God rebuke him, we humbly pray;
    and do you, O prince of the heavenly host,
    by the power of God,
    thrust into hell Satan and the other evil spirits
    who prowl about the world for the ruin of souls.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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  12. czarowniczy says:

    I went outside to get a few things done – 70 degrees,clear sky and half a full moon. It’s clear enough to see the ground where you’re walking.

    We have a mound of dirt out on the edge of the yard left over from construction, we never messed with it and a couple of pines seeded and grew there, it’s a ‘feature’. There are somethings living in/on that pile, I believe they’re possums, but I’m not sure. I call them my Old Friends as when I go out at night to do my westside work their eyes show up in the light from my headlamp. They watch me, they don’t go anywhere, just watch. Gonna go out and leave them some dried dog food, they deserve a reward for keeping me company.

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