5 Responses to Senator Graham’s press conference on the Mueller report

1. lovely says:

   March 25, 2019 at 5:28 pm

   Thank you Lindsey ! Finally someone has said that you can’t obstruct justice f there is no crime.
   SMH. I have been out of the loop but I haven’t heard anyone else mention this though I’m sure that Dershowitz must have and a few other pundits.

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   • czarina33 says:

     March 26, 2019 at 10:40 am

     Actually, yesterday I heard a man on the radio who was almost apopleptic that obstruction is a crime even if there was no other crime found. Even if it was done out in public/in the media (example: threatening the life of the prosecutor). Seems the media have to scrape around for something to say to fill the empty air. Interesing, tho, I only heard one person mention the Clinton server/Russian hack referenced in the Barr letter. That’s what I’m waiting to hear more about when/if the report is released.

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     • lovely says:

       March 26, 2019 at 7:09 pm

       Here is someone arguing the point that the person you heard made.

       Barr is wrong: Obstruction of justice doesn’t require another underlying crime

       https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/03/26/barr-is-wrong-obstruction-justice-doesnt-require-another-underlying-crime/

       This person make a poor legal argument and compare frogs to birds by citing a case where some one tried to protect a friend or family member from criminal charges.

       The camp of President Trump was the primary focus of the legal scope of the investigation and President Trump knew that there was no crime committed so he simply could not have committed a criminal offense in the venue that the obstruction law is written.

       There are a bunch of codes, which you may know better than me but the simple definition of obstruction is;

       A criminal offense that involves interference, through words or actions, with the proper operations of a court or officers of the court. An attempt to interfere with the administration of the courts, the judicial system or law enforcement officers, including threatening witnesses, improper conversations with jurors, hiding evidence, or interfering with an arrest. Such activity is a crime.

       We won’t even address “proper” 😎.

       So I’m not sure what an attorney could argue in favor of obstruction being a feasible charge when there is no underlying crime?

       Oh, (sorry I’m tired) you mentioned that the apoplectic cat used an example of threatening a prosecutor. Well that in itself is a crime, it’s not obstruction it’s a felony.

       And yes the nuts are going to be flat out crazy with all of their possible scenarios that will bring their spiraling delusions into some semblance of focus but pretty much they are simply out of luck and they are going to have two options 1) Face reality 2) Go certifiably nuts and live a life of odd muttering madness.

       Interesting, tho, I only heard one person mention the Clinton server/Russian hack referenced in the Barr letter. That’s what I’m waiting to hear more about when/if the report is released.

       I agree and I know I am in the minority about this but I believe that President Trump is going to allow justice to catch up with some really big players such as Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. If anything President may not want the former president, pseudo first black president, dragged before the world for the traitorous monster that he is because of the embarrassment that it would be to his beloved America but then I remember that President Trump told reporters that “Soon everyone will see what terrible things Obama has done” and I think, some things, as embarrassing as President Trump will deem them for our country, some things are so grievous, that the blood of innocence demands nothing less than the gallows.

       I believe that President Trump tips his hand and I believe the he has showed us these cards.

       Just my opinion 🙂 !

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       • czarina33 says:

         March 27, 2019 at 9:04 pm

         Trump won’t have to do it, the media will. When it comes down to it, their allegiances are to the 24 hour news cycle & getting the news break first. They’ll look all sad and try to cover their disappointment….

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         • lovely says:

           March 27, 2019 at 9:15 pm

           I’m not sure if I posted it or not but did you see Deshowitz’s article about him being banned from CNN? Apparently the order came directly form Zuck the Yuck. He did not want Dersh upsetting the core viewer if CNN and he wanted CNN to be known as the anti-Trump network. All for ratings, all for money.

           So I agree with you. I don’t care how they’re burned down just burn down the evil.

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