General Discussion, Monday, April 23, 2018

The Giroux Daguerreotype is described as a very rare model of the world’s first commercially produced camera. The camera was designed and produced in Paris in 1839 by Louis-Jacques-Mande Daguerre and Alphonse Giroux.

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138 Responses to General Discussion, Monday, April 23, 2018

  1. Lucille says:

    A SHOCKING LIKENESS: PHOTOGRAPHY AND DEATH IN THE CIVIL WAR
    Photography was invented in 1839, and became popular rather quickly. The first type of photograph that was widely available was the daguerreotype: the photosensitive chemicals were thinly spread over a small copper plate, coated in silver.
    http://www.orderofthegooddeath.com/a-shocking-likeness-photography-and-death-in-the-civil-war

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    • czarowniczy says:

      Sad thing was that the majority of ‘plates’ taken during the Civil War were lost or destroyed. One source moaned that so little was thought of the plates that many were cleaned and used for glazing in hothouses.

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      • Lucille says:

        How awful! Matthew Brady’s works are the ones I’m most familiar with. He likely did a better job of protecting his plates…or had a good PR agent to make him popular enough that destroying them would be like throwing money away. LOL!

        When my parents were newlyweds they had to live with my father’s parents until they could afford a place of their own. One day my mother came into the living room to discover my grandfather throwing Civil War family photos into the fire place. Surprised she asked him why he was doing that and he said no one would want those old things! None of them could be salvaged but she did manage to retrieve a photo of my grandfather with his Arkansas militia group probably from around 1900.

        It’s odd that my grandfather did that because he wasn’t unsentimental about family. Every year he would go to visit those who lived in Arizona or Texas or Arkansas and via letters always kept up on family goings-on.

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  2. nyetneetot says:

    Mornin’ stella! (Smiter of those that ought to be smote) 😎 🍸 (Long Island Iced Tea)
    Mornin’ WeeWeed! (Master Mixologist Extrodinare) 😎 🍸 (Old Fashioned)
    Mornin’ Menagerie! 😎 |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| (Jack Daniels – Single Barrel )
    Mornin’ Ad rem! (Queen Felis catus) 🐱 🍸 (Flaming Lamborghini)
    Mornin’ Sharon! 😎 🍸 🍸 (earthquake)
    Mornin’ ytz4mee! 😎 🍸 (cosmopolitan)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (white wine and perrier)
    Mornin’ partyzantski! πŸ™‚ |_| (Tom Collins)
    Mornin’ texan59! πŸ™‚ |_| (Black & Tan)
    Mornin’ ZurichMike! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (fuzzy navel)
    Mornin’ Col.(R) Ken! (hand salute) πŸ™‚ |_| (Boilermaker)
    Mornin’ czarina33! (aka czarina) πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Lynchburg Lemonade)
    Mornin’ czarowniczy! πŸ™‚ |_| (Wild Turkey Rare Breed)
    Mornin’ letjusticeprevail2014! πŸ™‚ |_| (Irish Car Bomb)
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    Mornin’ tessa50! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (flaming volcano)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (sidecar)
    Mornin’ varsityward! πŸ™‚ |_| (Godfather)
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    Mornin’ Howie! (aka “doodahdaze”) πŸ™‚ |_| (Classic Daiquiri)
    Mornin’ TwoLaine! πŸ™‚ |_| (Gin & Tonic)
    Mornin’ Sha! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Lemon Drop)
    Mornin’ BigMamaTEA! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Harvey Wallbanger)
    Mornin’ cetera5! (aka “Cetera”) πŸ™‚ |_| (Blackberry wine)
    Mornin’ The Tundra PA! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Gentleman Jack Whiskey Sling)
    Mornin’ lovely! πŸ™‚ |_| (Backdraft)
    Mornin’ michellc! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Salty dog)
    Mornin’ auscitizenmom! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Kiss on the Lips)
    Mornin’ Margaret-Ann! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (White Russian)
    Mornin’ Auntie Lib! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Tom and Jerry)
    Mornin’ holly100! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Jack & Coke)
    Mornin’ Pam! πŸ™‚ (Not even water)
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    Mornin’ amwick! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Blue motorcycle)
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    Mornin’ joshua! πŸ™‚ |_| (Mudslide)
    Mornin’ John Denney! πŸ™‚ |_| (RumChata)
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    Mornin’ whiners and complainers! πŸ˜› (No drink for you!)
    Mornin’ to people posting that I missed. 😳
    Mornin’ to all you lurkers! πŸ˜•

    Also just in case someday; mornin’ to Elvis Chupacabra, F.D.R. in Hell and sundance! :mrgreen:

    Breakfast!

    NEW and IMPROVED breakfast with extra bacon for ZurichMike!

    Doughnuts and coffee!

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  3. WeeWeed says:

    Mornin’ kids! Up ‘n at ’em!

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  4. stella says:

    President Donald J. Trump’s schedule for Monday, April 23rd:
    Β· Lunch with Vice President Mike Pence
    Β· Arrival of the President of France and Mrs. Macron
    Β· Plant a tree on the South Lawn with President of France and Mrs. Macron
    Β· Tour the Mount Vernon Mansion with President of France and Mrs. Macron
    Β· Dinner with President of France and Mrs. Macron
    Β· View Washington’s Tomb with President of France and Mrs. Macron

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  5. auscitizenmom says:

    Well, you know I have been remarking how great it is to order online at Walmart and then just go and they put the order in the car. I placed my order on Sat. and was supposed to pick it up Sun. They called and said there was a computer glitch and the order was lost, so I had to re-place the order and wait until Mon. Not a big problem, but, the good news is they took $15 off my next order. Not bad. I am so grateful to have this service since I have had a problem walking with my left knee swelling.

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    • It is a great service! Hope your knee feels better soon!

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    • Lucille says:

      Walmart has terrific customer relations, service and 2-day delivery on orders of $35 or more. If the wrong item is sent I simply call them and they will re-issue the correct item, asking me to take the incorrect one to the local Walmart. When I inform them I have no private way to do that and must take a taxi to the tune of $30 RT (our city having virtually no public transportation), they just tell me to keep the item without charge.

      Recently I ordered something to use as a hostess gift. When I received it, another pair of the same item was included in the box. After explaining the transpo problem to customer service, once again they said just to keep the extras since they were sale items and less than $10. If it had been a more expensive item, they probably would have sent me a UPS return sticker, though I don’t know that.

      Now, they had no way of knowing if I was lying and just trying to get extra product without paying for it. They trusted me. I find that rather amazing.

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      • auscitizenmom says:

        Well, this grocery pickup program has really been a blessing for me in the last few months. I am glad I decided to try it when I did and got it set up.

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      • stella says:

        I use Walmart as well. They are very reliable.

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      • stella says:

        I had an experience recently with Jet. Supposedly my damaged was damaged in transit, and Jet cancelled the order and refunded my money. Then I received the complete order, and everything was intact. I let them know that I had received it, and they replied with thanks for my honesty, but told me to keep the order at no cost.

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  6. michellc says:

    I remember seeing bits of his trial covered on the local news, but never really paid a lot of attention. A friend asked me to sign a petition for him and sent me links to trial documents and a report by forensic experts detailing how flawed the DNA was. Then I watched the report by Michelle Malkin. This is kind of scary how easily touch DNA is spread. I can also easily see how OKC would throw the BLM a sacrificial lamb to prevent race riots. OKC is a cesspool of progressives and thugs.

    Usually, I’m on the other side and say that a lot of people are sitting in prison who say they didn’t do it, but I have serious doubts this young man did do it.

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  7. michellc says:

    I’m paying closer attention to state politics this year due to how many teachers while striking at the capitol filed as candidates.
    Today is election challenge hearings. I’ve never listened to them before, they sure do get a little testy.

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    • michellc says:

      I did learn the head of our election board is rude and oversteps his bounds a lot. He doesn’t seem to understand he’s supposed to listen and ask questions every now and then, not testify for the candidate he makes so obvious he supports.

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  8. stella says:

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  9. Lucille says:

    I adore the ancient food called Garbanzo beans and could eat them every day….

    What are the benefits of chickpeas?
    By Megan Ware RDN LD – December 4, 2017
    https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/280244.php

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  10. The Tundra PA says:

    Morning Stellar friends. Interesting and entertaining column by Kurt Schlichter today at Town Hall:
    https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2018/04/23/untitled-n2473452

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  11. Lucille says:

    A Simple Campfire Meal on the Trail – The American Frontier

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  12. stella says:

    Seen on Facebook:

    “Louisiana has the best food on the planet if you don’t really ask too much about what you’re eating.”

    ~Jeff Foxworthy

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    • czarina33 says:

      Boudreaux & Thibodeaux were out fishing on the bayou. A flying saucer lands & an ugly alien being gets out: it has tentacles & multiple arms, too many eyes, a big mouth with sharp teeth & a big tongue. Boudreaux says to Thibodeaux, “What should we do?” Thibodeaux says, “Make a roux!”

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  13. stella says:

    President Bush 41 is in the hospital. CNN reports he is in intensive care. He was hospitalized yesterday one day after he buried the love of his life.

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    • Sharon says:

      Oh, goodness. Not too surprising in a way. It must surely be a lot for his family to take in as they walk through these hours.

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      • stella says:

        I can’t imagine losing your life partner after 73 years, no matter how rocky life was or wasn’t along the way. I think he may have been the weaker one in this partnership, anyway. From what I’ve read, he was a bit of a mama’s boy, and his wife continued that role in his life.

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        • Menagerie says:

          My father in law was one of the strongest, toughest men I’ve ever known, physically and mentally. If you went to visit his mother she always had at least a dozen home made treats to offer. Cakes, pies, cookies, candies, even doughnuts.

          There was always one thing off limits, you could never even wheedle a bite. Every day she made one special treat for my father in law, and no one ever got his dessert first.

          So, maybe he was a bit of a mama’s boy too. But man was he ever one of the strongest men I’ve known. When his wife, my mother in law, died, his will to live was instantly gone. He lived on Jack Daniels and chain smoked cigarettes until he didn’t live. Such a bitter loss to our family. My boys were in their early teens, and they loved and admired him, and were at an age where they wanted to spend time with him. They were particularly hurt by his withdrawal from life.

          Not the same thing at all as what the Bush family is going through, but it reminded me of my father in law for some reason.

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  14. stella says:

    Monday, April 23, 2018
    Who saved the whales?
    At Ace of Spades, Oregon Muse asks,
    Who is really responsible for saving the whales?

    a) GreenPeace
    b) a random assortment of smelly hippie protestors.
    c) international “law”
    d) John D. Rockefeller

    The answer is, of course, (d) John D. Rockefeller:

    Whale oil provided the lighting to read the breakthrough novel of 1870, the story of Captain Nemo in 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea. That was also the year of the foundation of Standard Oil. The result of that foundation is that we didn’t hunt the whales to extinction, but instead turned to kerosene to light the latter part of the 19th century, moving to electricity only in the 20th.

    It really isn’t hyperbole to insist that John D. Rockefeller saved the whales by his making mineral oil products so much cheaper than the cetacean-derived equivalent.
    The lesson is obvious:

    We need to be as viciously capitalist and free market as we can to save the planet.

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  15. This guy goes by “Squarepusher”. When I say “genius” I mean 140+ IQ.

    Here’s his latest electronica album. It’s a mathematical masterpiece.

    And yet, he can use just a bass and and amp and be as mathematical. Stunning musician.

    Even Jaco Pastorius would be impressed.

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    • The former is best with either a good set of headphones or a giant 5.1 Surround system and a nice subwoofer, and total attention to detail.

      The latter is best in full-screen, looking at his fingers on a 6-string bass that he knows like the back of his hand. Astounding man.

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  16. Lucille says:

    Lost their minds…if a single one of them ever again blathers about women’s rights!!!!

    Maine: House Democrats vote to allow female genital mutilation
    April 23, 2018 6:00 PM By Robert Spencer

    Why did they do this? Flagrant Islamopandering, trying to get the votes of Maine’s growing Somali Muslim community. FGM is mandated in Islamic law…

    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/04/maine-house-democrats-vote-to-allow-female-genital-mutilation

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    • They need to go back to their home countries. All of them.

      They need to go back. Our values and mores are incompatible, and always will be.

      Think about how much the Left and the Progressives and the Cucks love the fact that all the African NATIONS kicked out the French, the English, and the Dutch. Same with India. Same with Hong Kong.

      Why did they hold this position? Are they saying that they understand that a Nation is allowed to decide who gets to live there? (Hi, Japan! Good for you!)

      And yet they want all Western Nations to be colonized by people we’re not allowed to criticize, and who openly declare their intent to colonize and terrorize.

      When’s the last time there was war within Poland, or within Japan?

      Long time ago. Because they’re intelligent and care about their culture.

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  17. auscitizenmom says:

    lilbirdee12’s prayer:

    Our Heavenly Father, Your children come to you tonight to ask for healing and peace throughout our country so that we may return to being One Nation Under God. Guide us to be leaders in Your Kingdom, spreading Your Love and Salvation to all. Forgive us our sins and deliver us from evil.

    Lord, we ask for a blanket of protection over all our troops and law enforcement who serve to defend and protect us. Bless our representatives with the strength and wisdom they need to achieve the path You have chosen for us.

    Please place Your Guardian Angels of Protection around Donald Trump and Mike Pence and their families as they seek to lead America back to You.

    Grant us patience, Lord, as the evil ones try to anger us and cause us to fall.
    Spread blessings over Israel and Netanyahu.

    We humbly ask that You please comfort those who are grieving and in pain.
    Thank you Father, for Your Love and the gift of Life.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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  18. michellc says:

    This video is so immature. Parents are saying that teachers stopped classes to show this video to students and not just in Broken Arrow where it was made.

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    • michellc says:

      How many here could even imagine any teacher you had growing up who would have acted like this?

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      • lovely says:

        My high school teachers were all unapologetic liberals but even they had a sense of the asinine that would have prevented them from doing that ^ . PS I only watched less than a minute of it. True cottontail brains.

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        • michellc says:

          It got worse. My DH watched about a minute of it in the middle and said, “there sure is a bunch of them that look well fed to be on food stamps. My kid would have been removed from that school in a heartbeat. They should be ashamed of themselves, but the parents should really be ashamed of themselves that they allow their children to be taught by adults with 15 year old maturity level. No wonder all these teachers are having sex with 15 year old boys, that is their mentality level.”
          I told him male teachers were involved as well and he said, “that’s why they’re always getting suspended for showing porn to their students, it’s the mind of a 15 year old boy to show his friends dirty pictures to be the cool kid.”

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    • lovely says:

      Goodness, how are people not fully ashamed of themselves?

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      • michellc says:

        Yet several of them had signs at the capitol that said they deserved respect or wanted to be compensated like professionals.

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        • lovely says:

          That is the way they roll. Not to be gross so early in the morning but WI teachers and their minions smeared their feces all over the WI Capitol walls. They ditched school, encouraged students to ditch school, doctors who supported them unlawfully wrote notes to excuse them from work and school,and on and on. The Capitol looked like a third world migrant camp when they were finally defeated.

          Respect πŸ™„.

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          • michellc says:

            They should have arrested all of them!!!

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            • lovely says:

              I agree a bunch of low life scumbags. Spoiled brat children in adult bodies throwing tantrums. One dame actually chased the CNN bus down sobbing “It’s not over!!!” PLEEEEEZZZEE DON”T LEAVE!!! after Walker won the recall.

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              • michellc says:

                I can’t understand how parents can watch this kind of behavior and still think it’s okay for them to spend 7 to 8 hours a day with them.

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                  • michellc says:

                    My daughter tells me, “Mom for the most part this is my generation and my generation is stupid!”

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                  • lovely says:

                    They are reactionary emotional beings, they live their lives apart from logic and reason and believe that they do not have to justify an argument they just have to have a conviction in the justness of their cause.

                    Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. Martin King, Jr.

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                  • michellc says:

                    Most of the time I like my state, these past few years not so much. I have been so disgusted with Republicans in OKC between them voting like a pack of progressives to all of their affairs and dirty deeds. Dirty deeds that they use taxpayers’ money to settle out of court.
                    Then there’s been one teacher after the other who has been arrested for raping students. One after the other suspended for showing porn to kids.
                    Then the schools who have been having outside groups come in and teach kids how to masturbate and have anal sex safely. After it was found out about one school then it came out that at least 5 other districts were using the same outside group. Who knows what’s being taught in the rest of them?
                    Then all the people who suddenly started paying attention the past year to see that Mary Fallin isn’t who and what they thought she was. Heck, I tried to tell anyone who would listen who and what she was before she was elected the first time. I’m so glad President Trump was able to see what she is and didn’t give her a job in his administration.
                    Then all the people who have suddenly realized our U.S. Representative uses his business to campaign and uses his position to grow his business. I was complaining about all of that before his first term was over.
                    Then we had the illegal teacher strike that they called a walkout because the districts colluded with the teachers. Then I witnessed our local media covering for them and coverage being all one sided. Then after their strike cost taxpayers $115,000 a day and weakened our Highway Patrol forcing them to also dip into their emergency budget they thanked the teachers for what they did.

                    Then all the parents who moaned and complained until they opened the school doors and right back they sent their children and were so happy to be rid of them.

                    I’m not too happy with my state right now or the people in it. Frankly, I’m pretty disgusted and sick of the ignorance.

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                  • lovely says:

                    Keep in mind Michelle my state foisted Paul Ryan into power 😐. I apologize.

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                  • michellc says:

                    I haven’t done much better. πŸ™‚

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                  • lovely says:

                    That’s debatable. Paul is a rotten stench.

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                  • michellc says:

                    At least he will soon be gone.

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                  • lovely says:

                    Don’t count on it. He is likely going to run for the presidency.

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    • stella says:

      Silly. The “RESPECT” segment is particularly ironic. If they want respect, they should act like professional adults, not like children. I didn’t watch all of it either, just enough.

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