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General Discussion, Monday, October 9, 2017
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I hope I can ask this here. I have a baking question. What is the difference between a coffee cake, a cobbler, and a buckle? Can you use the same fruit in each or are there fruits specifically better to each? Best recipe for each type? Ty….
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Cobbler is a pie that was dropped, coffee cake is just a pre-cut sheet cake, and a buckle goes on one, two, shoes.
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LOL! I always say that scrambled eggs is a fritatta that was dropped! And as far as I know, a coffee cake has nuts and sugar, not fruit!
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Coffee cake can have fruit, but it is incorporated into the dough, which is much dryer than the others.
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One two, buckle your shoe, three four, eat some more, five six makes you sicks, eight nine, one more time…..cobbled that one for your coveffe cake.
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The second I saw the question I knew it was a cinch you’d come up with that exact answer.
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It was early
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I’m not faulting you, it’s just it was so obvious and I slept in.
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Here you go. This link has info for you. And I would imagine you could use most fruits in each, although most cobblers and such are made with apples, berries, peaches, etc. Often a coffee cake has no fruit, but might have nuts, and a crumble topping.
Here in the south, a cook will often make a cobbler more juicy than a pie would be and with a thin biscuit topping.
http://www.myrecipes.com/how-to/cooking-questions/difference-cobbler-crisp-crumble-buckle
You must ignore nyet. His brain is cobbled, buckled, but he does serve up good coffee cake with his virtual breakfasts occasionally.
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Crisps and cobblers are my favorite. I would probably make a crisp from apples and a cobbler from peaches, but that is a personal preference. To me, a buckle sounds like it would be like chicken with dumplings (northern style).
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When the blackberries were fresh my husband one night said he was craving an apple crisp. I didn’t have any apples, but had tons of blackberries, so I decided to make a small one to see if it was any good. I’ve only made peach and apple crisps before, so I wasn’t too sure how it would taste, but it was really good. I think I prefer it to blackberry cobbler.
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Sounds good!
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Ive got some baking to do and my grandmither left me recipes for buckles but she was from north carolina, liked southern cooking and im a Californian with limited southern knowledge…i can always try 1 of each and give away a batch. 😁
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I think buckles were for people without ovens. Same for steamed puddings (delicious).
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I barely remember hearing about buckles, not a thing around here. We are very big on cobblers. Here’s a recipe I found. Which sounds better to me than cobblers. They are not my favorite, although down in Alabama recently I had a pecan cobbler, which I had never heard of, and it was excellent.
https://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/1017644-summer-berry-buckle
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All these carb things make everyone crazy. Therefore, they should be avoided and ignored and replaced wtih bacon.
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Why not both ZM? Like Apple Bacon Cobbler?(http://www.greeneggsandgoats.com/2012/10/apple-bacon-cobbler.html)
Or even (and this seems a little over the top, even for me) Bacon Baklava?
(http://www.allingoodfood.com/Recipes/all-in-good-food-recipes/bacon-baklava&id=1359018373953)
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Even carbophobic ZM could not pass on that! 😯
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Ah! Blessed be the peacemakers!
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Omy goodness…bacon baklava! I have seen chocolate dipped bacon now too. ZM must be in heaven.
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Not so fast, there.
My vote is to keep ZM here,
on Earth, for a little while, at least. 😉
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Agreed, my bacon doesn’t need metformin as as chaser.
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Thanks!
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Good morning, Lucille! 😊
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Hi Lucille!
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Good morning Lucille. 🙂
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Good morning or afternoon, as the case may be, Sand, Lburg, lovely, and all the Stellar personages inhabiting this oasis!
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Mornin’ stella! (Smiter of those that ought to be smote) 😎 🍸 (Long Island Iced Tea)
Mornin’ WeeWeed! (Master Mixologist Extrodinare) 😎 🍸 (Old Fashioned)
Mornin’ Menagerie! 😎 (Jack Daniels – Single Barrel )
Mornin’ Ad rem! (Queen Felis catus) 🐱 🍸 (Flaming Lamborghini)
Mornin’ Sharon! 😎 🍸 🍸 (earthquake)
Mornin’ ytz4mee! 😎 🍸 (cosmopolitan)
Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! 🙂 🍸 (white wine and perrier)
Mornin’ partyzantski! 🙂 (Tom Collins)
Mornin’ texan59! 🙂 (Black & Tan)
Mornin’ ZurichMike! 🙂 🍸 (fuzzy navel)
Mornin’ Col.(R) Ken! (hand salute) 🙂 (Boilermaker)
Mornin’ czarina33! (aka czarina) 🙂 🍸 (Lynchburg Lemonade)
Mornin’ czarowniczy! 🙂 (Wild Turkey Rare Breed)
Mornin’ letjusticeprevail2014! 🙂 (Irish Car Bomb)
Mornin’ Patriot1783-ctdar! (aka “ctdar”) 🙂 🍸 (grasshopper)
Mornin’ tessa50! 🙂 🍸 (flaming volcano)
Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! 🙂 🍸 (sidecar)
Mornin’ varsityward! 🙂 (Godfather)
Mornin’ MaryfromMarin! 😀 (Mortlach)
Mornin’ Wooly Covfefe! (aka “Wooly Phlox” aka “taqiyyologist”) 🙂 (Roy Rogers)
Mornin’ Howie! (aka “doodahdaze”) 🙂 (Classic Daiquiri)
Mornin’ TwoLaine! 🙂 (Gin & Tonic)
Mornin’ Sha! 🙂 🍸 (Lemon Drop)
Mornin’ BigMamaTEA! 🙂 🍸 (Harvey Wallbanger)
Mornin’ cetera5! (aka “Cetera”) 🙂 (Blackberry wine)
Mornin’ The Tundra PA! 🙂 🍸 (Gentleman Jack Whiskey Sling)
Mornin’ lovely! 🙂 (Backdraft)
Mornin’ michellc! 🙂 🍸 (Salty dog)
Mornin’ auscitizenmom! 🙂 🍸 (Kiss on the Lips)
Mornin’ Margaret-Ann! 🙂 🍸 (White Russian)
Mornin’ Auntie Lib! 🙂 🍸 (Tom and Jerry)
Mornin’ holly100! 🙂 🍸 (Jack & Coke)
Mornin’ Pam! 🙂 (Not even water)
Mornin’ Ms.Tee! 🙂 🍸 (Mojito)
Mornin’ koolkosherkitchen! 🙂 🍸 🍸 (Cuba Libre)
Mornin’ ImpeachEmAll 🙂 (Flaming Dr. Pepper)
Mornin’ Monroe! 🙂 (Stinger)
Mornin’ Les! 🙂 (Rusty Nail)
Mornin’ shiloh1973! 🙂 (Jack Daniels)
Mornin’ TexasRanger! 🙂 (Whiskey Smash)
Mornin’ Ziiggii! 🙂 (B52)
Mornin’ oldiadguy! 🙂 (Rum & Coke)
Mornin’ smiley! (“stuck in spambucket”) 🙂 🍸 (Spanish coffee)
Mornin’ derk! (“Stellars”) 🙂 🍸 (Kamikaze)
Mornin’ Jacqueline Taylor Robson 🙂 🍸 (Shirley Temple)
Mornin’ facebkwallflower! 🙂 (Night Train Express)
Mornin’ Ms. Cindy! (aka “Ms Cynlynn” aka “ms cynlynn”) 🙂 🍸 (1970 ducru beaucaillou)
Mornin’ sandandsea2015! 🙂 🍸 (1961 Château Montrose)
Mornin’ amwick! 🙂 🍸 (Blue motorcycle)
Mornin’ hocuspocus13! 🙂 🍸 (1970 Chateau Latour)
Mornin’ Sloth1963! 🙂 🍸 (1971 Moulin Touchais)
Mornin’ MTeresa! (Ex-lurker) 🙂 (Albanian Raki Moskat)
Mornin’ Rhea Salacia Volans! 🙂 (Hot Buttered Rum)
Mornin’ joshua! 🙂 (Mudslide)
Mornin’ John Denney! 🙂 (RumChata)
Mornin’ litenmaus! 🙂 (Stolichnaya elit, no ice)
Mornin’ kinthenorthwest! 🙂 🍸 (A Lonely Island Lost in the Middle of a Foggy Sea)
Mornin’ TwoLaine! 🙂 (Smoking Bishop)
Mornin’ patternpuzzler! 🙂 🍸 (Old Lady)
Mornin’ Senatssekretär FREISTAAT DANZIG! 🙂 (Red Russian)
Mornin’ G-d&Country! 🙂 🍸 (Blind Russian)
Mornin’ Gary! 🙂 (Yuengling)
Mornin’ valeriecurren! 🙂 🍸 (Flaming Sambuca)
Mornin’ Lucille! 🙂 🍸 (Peach Schnapps)
Mornin’ Lburg! 🙂 🍸 (Lburg lemonade)
Mornin’ davidhuntpe! 🙂 (Baileys Irish Cream on the rocks)
Mornin’ skipper1961! 🙂 (Brompton’s Cocktail – No cherry, no umbrella, no plastic monkey)
Mornin’ mightyconservative! 🙂 (Benjamin Franklin’s clarified milk punch)
Mornin’ whiners and complainers! 😛 (No drink for you!)
Mornin’ to people posting that I missed. 😳
Mornin’ to all you lurkers! 😕
Also just in case someday; mornin’ to Elvis Chupacabra, F.D.R. in Hell and sundance!
Breakfast!
NEW and IMPROVED breakfast with extra bacon for ZurichMike!
Pastries for coffee!
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Breakfast looks great. Even the bisquit. Which would taste even better with some pork gravy.
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Hope your birthday was spectacular, ZM!
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It was low key, just the way I like it!
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Good morning, Nyet! Still traveling? Thank you for breakfast!
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Good Morning, Nyet! Thanks for this lovely breakfast. Good Morning breakfasters!
“Are bacon and chocolate the foundation of a good meal? No, everybody knows
that is a deep fryer and/or gravy. However, I have long held the notion that you can’t name a food that I can’t improve by adding either bacon or chocolate.” ~
Aaron Blaylock, It’s Called Helping…You’re Welcome
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Looks great! Thank you Nyet!
Morning everyone. Stay Deplorable!
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Bacon, eggs, and a biscuit, yummie. Mornin’ Nyet, everyone. 🙂
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Mornin’!
What are you doing serving biscuits without gravy? 🙂
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I had to run over the the Church and pray for the soul of a person serving biscuits without gravy…..forgiveness and serenity…forgive that cook for she knows not what she done….
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Good morning Nyet 🙂 .
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Pimento cream cheese on a croissant and ten pieces of bacon, please, Nyet. Thanks!
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The train in the today’s photo reminds me of the “battle of the trains” in the children’s book “Benjie Engie” where the two oncoming trains would not back down.
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Keep a look out for
Thomas
Edward
Henry
Gordon
James
Percy
Toby
Emily
Duck
Donald and Douglas
Oliver
Bill and Ben
Harvey
Fergus
Arthur
Murdoch
Molly
Neville
Rosie
Whiff
Stanley
Hiro
Charlie
Bash and Dash
Ferdinand
Scruff
Belle
Stephen
Porter
Timothy
Glynn
Ryan
Diesel
Daisy
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sorry….ZM….those are all the “TRAIN CHARACTERS” from the Shining Time Station video stories about Thomas the Tank engine….childhood favorites in the 1990s
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which came WAY after the children’s book of MY GENERATION;
“The Little Engine that Could” who today is a role model for MAGA thinking.
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Fir sone reason I never liked that series. 🙂
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Sir Topenhat was clearly a Wall Street globalist, and having one of the Beetles as Conductor never made sense to me either…..
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LOL!
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I admit, as well, that I know absolutely nothing about this series, even though I applaud your depth of knowledge thereabout, Josh. You just, like, listed all the Pokemon in the latest Nintendo game. That’s astonishing, bro.
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My four year old grandson loves Thomas and all his friends.
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It’s a reference, If I’m not mistaken, to Thomas the Tank Engine.
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YASSAH for sure…
Thomas the Tank Engine
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MYTH BUSTED: Actually, Yes, Hitler Was a Socialist Liberal
https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/myth-busted-actually-yes-hitler-was-a-socialist-liberal/
Pretty good info about Nazi Germany. Nationalized medicine, nationalized education, gun control, abortion … sound familiar?
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Ah yea, the renunciation of history, again. People willingly forgot what Nazi stands for.
I’m tempted to beat my head on my desk, because since others will not learn, maybe I’ll be happier if I forget. -_-
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It’s amazing how ignorant even smart people are sometimes. All we can do is try to educate, educate, educate!
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George Bush the Younger wanted all kids to become edumacated with none of em “left behind”….altho I suppose it is fine that the folks claiming to BE THE PARENTS are leaving them behind like they were left behind when they chose to ignore what was provided for free in our Public Schools.
press one for English, press “hang up” if you do not speak English, and return to your country of origin” “have a nice day”
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National socialism in Germany had roots that went back farther than Hitler. Thing is that Americans are heavily ignorant of our own history, never mind European history so they aren’t focusing on those fine nuances in terms.
The American Leftists are capitalizing on that using the words purely for emotional effect, not intellectual. and largely don’t want to be educated on the steeenkin’ facts, too busy, they want tasty, breaded McFactoids, junk food politics.
And the right does it too, it’s an expedient you can toss onto the table when you’re too busy to cook up a real political meal. We evoke the ghost of Jimmy Carter and, to a lesser and more focused extent, FDR. It ain’t the fault of the political cooks, it’s the fault of the public that eat this junk.
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Mornin’ kids!
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Mornin’ WeeWeed!
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Mornin’ Stella!
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Good Morning, Wee!
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Murdering? Lying? Predators? Columbus? Looks like Marslady was sleepin’ through history class.
(I’m doing research for a private writing project so I’ve been all over the place looking up all sorts of little things. Because I can be very picky about my historical research, it bothers me a great deal that lots of people don’t bother to even try and grasp a little history. And if Marslady lives in America, and runs around shrieking about her First Amendment right to say what she wants, I’ll really be irked.)
Morning Infidel Team Leader.
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Mornin’ Rhea!
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then do not get too involved with all the destruction of Confederate Statutes….because almost ALL of the MSM historical facts are totally wrong and biased.
Context is not just something….it is EVERYTHING in history.
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I’m actual infuriated by the destruction of Confederate statutes, joshua. People are wrong and they won’t even bother to try and learn.
The Civil War was ugly, but the truth is that the South would have never joined the Union if they though they couldn’t get out of it! And the Civil War was pretty amazing because when it was over, and the South had surrendered, there was no wide-spread guerrilla warfare. That in itself is astonishing!
But you probably know all of this, so I will get off my soapbox.
“Think about what you do, think about what they say, think about how to think…”
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Back to McFactoids, the new narrative is that the Civil War was all about slavery, nothing more, just the pure-as-driven-snow motives of the North to free the black slaves so they could be a true part of America.
There were no financial reasons the North wanted to bitch slap the South, no deep-seated cultural reasons, the North had a spotless record as it never engaged in slavery and the black residents in the North were all fully engaged members of the progressive and enlightened society.
Also left unanswered is why the North, after squandering thousands of lives and millions in treasure crushing the South just to free the slaves, then immediately abandoned those slaves to the tender mercies of of the beaten and angry South until their ‘plight’ was suddenly discovered in the 60s by Democrats needing new bodies to bulk up their flagging ranks? Not that the conditions of black citizens in the North under the progs was that much better.
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Yep.
…Nothing to see here…Move along please…
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In early 1860 most Southern newspapers promoted Unionist sentiments for peace, but by 1861 they advocated secession and disunion, often calling for bloodshed. Using the editorials published in 196 newspapers during that pivotal year before the outbreak of the Civil War,
Editors Make War is the first complete study of how Southern newspapers influenced the secession crisis in 1860, effectively outlining how editors played on their readers’ racial fears and distrust of the North. Donald E. Reynolds shows the evolution of the editors’ viewpoints and explains how editors helped influence the traditionally conservative and nationalistic South to revolt and secede.
Showing how newspaper coverage can affect its readers, this classic study illuminates such events as the nominating conventions, fires in Texas that were blamed on slaves and abolitionists, state elections in the North, Lincoln’s presidential victory, failed attempts at compromise, the secession of the lower Southern states, the attack at Fort Sumter, and the Federal call for troops in April 1861.
TEX AS TROUBLES
Illustration, Texas Troubles. Image available on the Internet and included in accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107.
TEXAS TROUBLES. The Texas slave panic of 1860-often called “the Texas Troubles” by the press-was the most serious happening of its kind in the South since the Nat Turner insurrection of 1831. Though generally less emphasized by historians than the more celebrated earlier event, the Texas panic of 1860 may have been at least as important, for it helped prepare Texans and other Southerners to leave the Union. The Texas Troubles broke out in the aftermath of a series of fires in North Texas on July 8, 1860. The most serious of these destroyed most of the downtown section of the small town of Dallas. In addition, about half of the town square in Denton burned, and fire razed a store in Pilot Point.
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Let’s not forget Hurst’s part in creating the Spanish-American War, the media’s a major factor in US opinion shaping.
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According to “Seven Things that Made America America” the Dred Scott decision helped wreck the US economy and hasten the war, but that book is written by the same people who insist that the Civil War was totally about slavery, so maybe take that with a carton of salt.
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I spent an hour or so talking to an older black man once at the Y. He went up north in the 60’s to earn a better living for his family. Stayed a few years and came home. He said he had never encountered as much racism as he did up there, never felt as truly hated.
One man’s experience only, but my husband spent time in NYC in the 80’s and he also came home and said the people up there, every one he met over the course of months, truly hated black people and were much more vocal about it than we were used to down here. He also said people from all walks of life, young, old, men and women couldn’t string five words together without the f bomb or GD, and this came from a man who worked at shipyards.
I don’t think there is a place on Earth with innocent people.
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Yeah, another case of ‘do as we say, Southern Redneck trash, and not as we do’.
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Detroit has more racists than Chicago. I don’t know about other places, but it was obvious to me when I moved back to Michigan.
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I’ve heard that sentiment expressed many, many times. There is more unity in the South, and more racial hatred in the North. I’ve heard it enough times from people I know that I believe it.
Television and Hollywood, and the Left Coast would have you believe otherwise.
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Mornin’ Wee!
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Mornin’ Michelle!
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My objection to women in power: Maxine Waters, Hillery Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, Elizabeth Warren, Sheila Jackson Lee, Patty Murray, Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, Stephanie Rawlings-Blake, Lindsey Graham.
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Especially Lindsey! Mornin’ Mom!
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Indeed!
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where it all started…
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Woo! If I had to dress like that, especially without air conditioning, I’d be uppity too.
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Maxine Waters can’t cook
I would replace her with this woman who never uttered a foul hateful word ever…just filled you up until your tummy was happy and your lips were covered with syrup and butter.
but there will be worthless elitist white liberals that think that is demeaning and hateful and bigoted….but I was raised by a sweet black lady who helped my momma raise me and my brother…and we loved her completely and she loved us. I never new hatred of blacks until a bunch of activists in the 1960 told us how white people were all black haters and just bad. Never heard of Jim Crow until 1965…but neither did the hard working, honest family centered black people in my community either.
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Uncle Ben for Senator!
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Dat Rice is Mighty Nice….
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Yeah, too bad he couldn’t have converted Rice.
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Lawsee!
LOL
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Good morning Wee 🙂 !
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Afternoon Lovely!
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Mmmmhuh, yeah, Marslady…more women in power like Pelosi, Streep, Clinton, Gillibrand, Obama, Judd, Allred, Feinstein, Harris, Lawrence, Warren, Duckworth, Cyrus…ah….
Afternoon, WeeWeed!
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Afternoon Lucy!
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Spicier!
Did he really? Goodness. He’s a genius.
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Evenin’ Wools!
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I know we have talked about grocery delivery before. I just discovered that Costco has both a grocery delivery program and a fresh grocery delivery program (if available in your area).
https://www.costco.com/costco-grocery-faq.html
https://sameday.costco.com/store/costco/storefront
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not sure I am ready to give up selecting my own fruit and vegies and meat and baked goods from retail location where I get to put eyes on, smeller on, and squeezer on my potential purchases.
was bad enough when they all went bonkers on using plastic bags for awhile….so I don’t want a drone ringing my doorbell with a broken box of eggs they dropped from the loader forklift…..
jes sayin’
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Grocery delivery is a great thing for people who either can’t get to the store because they don’t have transportation or are disabled. It’s great during the holidays when the stores are mobbed, and you are busy, busy, busy!
The fresh grocery delivery is great. I have used a different service, and they personally select the items in the store, drive them to your house, and carry the groceries directly into your kitchen for you. They do a surprisingly good job of picking produce, I have found, and if the eggs are broken, you don’t pay for them.
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I just found this…hahahahaha!
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I’m the same way, I like to go to the store and pick out my own food, what food I don’t just go out to my garden and pick. lol
I’m the same way though about clothes and shoes.
I’m honestly not one that enjoys ordering anything online and only do so when I have to because I can’t find it in stores.
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I think it’s great, though, that the service exists for those who need or want it.
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I don’t have a problem with it for others. It’s just not my cup of tea.
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I used Walmart’s delivery to the car service last week because I was just too tired to wander through the store, load up the cart, unload the cart onto the counter, unload the basket into the car, unload the car at home and put the groceries away. Since, at the time, I heard about another hurricane and was low on my water supply which is heavy to pick up and bring in. I am so glad I did that.
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aus….I get weary of Walmart checkout line filled with Middle Easterners and kids that do not speak English and Hispanics with food cards as well as AA that have two carts some on the welfare card and other stuff for someone else paying cash but who can’t count money, and a thousand kids with them while the checker does the best to handle the transaction….I am able, unassisted, to always discover, choose, and stand in line at the very register that is going to have a check out issue without anyone but a manager to come rectify while I am trying to stack my stuff on the grocery transport belt without getting chili peppers and tortilla flour on my flashlight batteries……
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I understand totally, only very few ME. But, I get bent over the Hispanics with the mother 8 mo. pregnant, a baby in the cart, along with two others in the cart and 3 trailing along behind, and using EBT cards, and can’t speak English. And, I thought I was the only one who had a curse put on me so that every line I am in is a problem. 😯
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No. I have a 100% success rate for never getting through checkout without at least one delay and major altercation.
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I know of a grocery store that has done that since the 70’s. Of course for years you had to call them and give them your grocery list and they’d give you a time to pick up. They were like Sonic car hops, had their aprons with cash and coin belts to give you your change or they took checks before the days of everything being electronic.
My daughter goes and visits an elderly woman once a week, she loves the babies and all of her family lives out of state. They were talking about how night and day different the kids are and she was telling her about a neighbor years ago who had a house full of kids and one of them looked nothing like the rest. So everyone joked it belonged to the milk man. My daughter came home and said she didn’t get the milk man part and thought she meant to say mailman. I told her that no she meant milk man and what a milk man was. lol
Sorry, thinking about grocery deliveries reminded me of that. Sometimes what’s old is new again. Back in the day that’s how lots of country people got staples was by the guy who came through so many times a year with staples on a wagon and later a truck.
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LOL Reading that made me feel old. We never had a milkman, but at least I had heard about milkmen.
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today, young folks cannot COUNT CHANGE even
we got milk and fresh eggs delivered to our door, as well as laundry and dry cleaning pick up and delivery and they came and got our auto to wash, lube and change oil from the “filling station” where they also always pumped your gas, checked your oil and water and tire pressure and cleaned all your windows every time you went in.
of course, in those days, the movie cost 9 cents, a ball gum in the machine was a penny, popcorn and a coke and a candy bar were 5 cents each, and gasoline was less than 25 cents a gallon…and a Cadillac cost $2250.
My first car was a 20 yo used Chrysler Royal 1938 model that I paid 75 bucks for.
damn that makes me not only FEEL old…that makes me OLD.
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Our last filling station closed down when the son who took over for the father who owned it before him retired. The old station was tore down and built in it’s place was a Caseys.
Up until it closed, although it was out of my way to drive there, I still went there and got my gas a lot of times. I miss the ding and telling him to fill it up and having my windshield washed with soap and not just dirty water.
Now you go pump your own gas and rarely do they even have anything but dirty water to wash your windshield with.
So many things kids today will never know.
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includes Fleers Bubble Gum that did not taste like rubber….
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Did you know that it is illegal to pump your own gas in Oregon?
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/05/oregon_gas_pump_ban_lifted_in.html
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I didn’t know that. But, back in the 70’s or 80’s after we had already started pumping our own gas in California, two ladies who were a little older (I was in my 20’s, so they might have only been in their 40′ or 50’s. lol) asked if I would help them pump their gas because they didn’t know how. They were from Oregon.
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Stella, think it’s illegal in a state up north too, maybe New Jersey? They had booths where there were people on duty who pumped the gas when I was up there with my son in his truck. He said he didn’t know the first time he went up there and boy did they get mad and threaten him.
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When I was a kid, we had both a milk man and a bread man. Only one car, and dad took that one to work. More than a mile to the store, so it made good sense.
My house still has a milk chute, but it only opens from the inside now; it is covered with siding on the outside. I also have a coal door, but I put plywood on the inside for security.
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hope the milk guys never mixed doors up with the coal guys….makes for really dark milk….
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Really different doors in really different places.
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Cannot believe the ice man
has not been mentioned; or
the rag man, early recycling.
The latter had a horse and wagon for
bundled newspapers (paid with dimes). 😉
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I watched a series of BBC programs called “If Walls Could Talk – The History of the Home” (See YouTube).
On one program, they talked about recycling in Victorian times – The rag and bone man, the ash man. All glass containers were returned for refilling. Metal was recycled.
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A rag man is an anagram. Of “anagram”.
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The milk man down here left a metal crate with glass bottles on the porch before daylight, usually before four in the morning. I remember it, but it only lasted until I was probably five or six years old.
And people just had coal dumped in their yards mostly. I don’t know if there are houses with coal chutes down here. But of course, we wouldn’t have used nearly as much coal as you guys up there. I do remember my mama threatening me not to play in the coal pile when we went to my grandma’s house.
I had never heard of a milk chute at all. Where does it go? Didn’t they have glass bottles?
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The milk chute is really a box built into the wall of the house with doors both on the inside and outside. I have a coal room in my basement. It now has shelves built into it for storage. When you have a big coal furnace in your basement, it helps to have the coal right there!
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They still have milk delivery in Scotland! It was so nice to get a glass pint of milk that the cream floated to the top of. Not “homogenized” like here. They also delivered eggs and orange juice. You had to wash your empty bottles and leave them on the front steps for pick-up when he made his next delivery.
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Actually, we still have milk delivery here too (along with other things). I don’t think they sell non-homogenized milk, but you can get it if you look hard enough.
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Not sure where you live, so don’t know if it’s legal in your state, but states where it’s legal you can buy fresh milk from dairies. I agree fresh milk or raw as they call it now can’t be beat. We do have stores around here that sell pasteurized not homogenized which still isn’t fresh and no cream but it’s better than the homogenized crap.
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Back in the 70’s and 80’s I was in S. Cal. and bought raw milk in the health food stores. I loved it. I have always hated drinking homogenized pasteurized milk, even as a child.
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I don’t mind pasteurized so much, it of course is not as good as fresh, but 10 times better than homogenized.
We don’t have a milk cow anymore and the dairy I did buy fresh milk from sold off all their cows and equipment. I fully trusted their milk, but if I buy some and don’t fully trust it I pasteurize it at home.
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“Milk chute.” Never knew there was such a thing.
I try and learn something new every day. Thanks, Stella.
Many buildings in my town, if you walk around and look closely at the botttoms of them, have coal chutes, covered by concrete, or, in rare cases, the original cast iron doors.
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Mine still has the iron door, rusting away.
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True dat. For us grocery delivery is not only garden but what walks thru the property. Just last night I had to go out late to herd the cat inside and I could hear a hog stomping and snorting in the brush out front. This stuff just self delivers.
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Not me. Shoes are the only thing I won’t buy online, have to try them on, unless I know the brand and specific shoe. Otherwise I’m all over online, I hate shopping more than any other chore.
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Not a problem with Walmart, they only seem to have one kind of dough and they shape it into different things. You can order by shape, taste isn’t in the equation.
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All heavy items, such as cat food, kitty litter, canned goods…or large items like the jumbo 30-roll “music roll” (as my Dad used to call it), are ordered online from Walmart for my household. For fresh or frozen items I go to the store personally…I’m real fussy about my baby spinach and MUST determine whether it’s got any wilted looking pieces on the bottom…LOL!
Actually going to Walmart or Costco or any of the big box stores is out…way too much walking. Thus online ordering is a must. At Walmart if your order is at least $35, shipping is free.
I used to order from Amazon, but Bezos has convinced me that supporting Amazon supports the dissolution of our Republic. Walmart treads the line on occasion, but they aren’t totally Left like Amazon.
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I usually don’t buy ANY fresh produce from Walmart. I get it at Publix. It is always in better condition and doesn’t go bad as fast. It is a little more expensive, but when you are throwing so much away, it all evens out.
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what? Walmart has fresh produce?
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Well, they have produce. Fresh? I dunno.
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OK, I’ll concede it was fresh at one time.
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We don’t have Publix here, but they are very nice stores! Here we have Meijer stores, which have good produce (and other stuff too). Also good independent produce markets.
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I’ve never been to a better store than Publix. I only get to do so once a year when I visit my folks in FL. Their local TV ads are true. The people who work there are all the best people you could have working for your business. “What do you need? Got it!” is their unspoken motto. I’ve never met friendlier or more helpful workers in a grocery store.
Walk into Menard’s, Home Depot, Wal-Mart up here? Good luck even finding a worker.
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I do love Meijer, Stella.
Funny thing, Washington State has another Fred. It’s Meyer. And it’s another grocery-merchandise chain, just like ours. It’s a very odd coincidence.
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I noticed that when I was out there five years ago visiting my brother.
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The Ministry of National Defense of the People’s Republic of China heartily agrees with your patronizing the progressive and forward-thinking Walmart.
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Yeah, there’s that…but I don’t buy food from China, does that help?
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Have you bought anything from Smithfield foods? They bare a US company owned by China. They’re buying US brands which means they don’t have to say they’re Chinese. Also note that companies outside of China are hiring NK workers and not labeling the product as processed by NK workers.
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Buy local hams and sausages. Better anyway.
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Always do, we’re lucky to have two independent butcher shops that do everything.
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I usually buy either Dearborn Brand or Kowalski. I also have a butcher that makes their own sausages.
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Best kind, that way you can complain if he uses too much soy filler to plump up the sausages as they cook.
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Almost forgot – have a new source in Eastern Market in Detroit, called Corridor Sausage.
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I’d think you’d have enough Eastern Europeans to where you’d have the sausage shops. We also have a custom sausage shop that does…HEADCHEESE!!!! too. I can make my own but I’m getting old and lazy, maybe deer and bore this winter.
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I haven’t had head cheese in years. My dad used to buy it in Wisconsin when we lived in Illinois. He went up there on business quite frequently. Also the best fresh liver sausage I ever ate.
It’s true that we have no lack of good sausage shops – and other kinds of Eastern European foods. That Corridor Sausage place makes a lamb and fig sausage that I really like. A little different from the usual things available around here.
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I eat head cheese on black bread with European mustard and sliced, washed raw onion. Also like it chopped in a salad with onions and a vinaigrette.
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Jet.com is owned by Walmart, and another source for free shipping above $35. I hear that Boxed.com is good, but I haven’t ordered from them.
I order certain things from Costco on line – including whole bean coffee, which is a good price and very good quality (exactly what I like).
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If you order a lot of organic , Paleo, vegan, and other “alternative” type stuff, use Thrive.com. their prices are better than most groceries on the same items, and free shipping on orders over $49. Sometimes shipping is free. They send out sales emails with bargains as well. They have a good selection on authentic foreign ingredients hard to find in the boonies where we live. DH likes his Indian food!
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I’ll check them out. I use an organic service that delivers weekly. It is local, but part of a chain – Door to Door Organics.
Some of their stuff is expensive, but other things are cheaper. $5.00 delivery fee if order is less than $75. They have produce, dairy, meat, pantry items etc.
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Thrive doesn’t have produce, but they are trying to figure out a way. They are a newish company.
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Thanks, Jacqueline, I’ll look them up online.
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Which kind is best? I’ve tried some in the store and had bad luck.
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Well, you might not like what I like, but this is what I get. I think they sell it in 2# bags in the warehouse stores (at least they used to ):
https://www.costco.com/Kirkland-Signature-Colombian-Supremo-Whole-Bean%2c-3-lbs.product.100334843.html
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…….singing “Harambe Krishna” in the background with finger cymbals and tambourine music…soft drums….
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Between her bland cover design and dumb title, Hillary’s book is a joke that will never go away.
https://twitter.com/AmericanPlush/status/890571505888878592
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Gotta Trump Thumpin!!
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Morning WeeWeed!
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Mornin’ S&S!
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“Good morning, SMOD!”
:grips pillow comfortably:
:smiles:
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Morning folks 🙂 .
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now who is THAT cutie?? musta had a great deal on purchasing oversized ears maybe…lol
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She’s my Iggy, normally toasted up against me but for some reason she preferred her bed this day as long as I moved it to stay in the sunshine 😊.
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That is a snuggly bunny cutie pie for sure. Me likie doggie.
not named for Iggy Pop, The Godfather of Punk, I suspect….
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She is an Italian Greyhound they are also referred to as “Iggies” 🙂 . Mostly I call her Dean.
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She is utterly precious, lovely! So huggable!
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Thank you, she is a real snuggle bunny, my other dog is mostly white so I can’t see the old age white hairs creeping in 😔.
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my dachs girl is outside right now lying in the sun…she is a bed buddy at night, but loves sunshine in the day…
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Mine is still wearing the cone. Poor thing. But, her eye is getting better and she isn’t fighting the cone.
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It’s all fun and games until you get the “Cone of Shame”.
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She’s a cutie lovely. And she looks likes she’s pretty spoiled. :0)
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That she is 🙂 .
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I love that you can see the veins in her ears with the sunlight shining through them.
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Bride leaves empty seat for her dead son, can’t hold back tears when she sees who shows up
Becky was forced to experience every mother’s worst nightmare. Her son Triston passed away at the very young age of 19 and while this is the sort of pain that no parent should ever have to endure, she did her absolute best to soldier on in his absence. She kept on living her life and two years after his passing, she was slated to marry the man of her dreams.
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https://www.today.com/health/bride-gets-wedding-day-surprise-man-who-received-late-son-t113677
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Thanks Lucile !I forgot to add the link 🙄.
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You’re welcome…great story!
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So touching. I think she married the right man. He went to a lot of trouble to give that present to her. 🙂
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Lovely story!
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A touch of reality; or…
just socialists being socialists…
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Definitely “or”. 🙄
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One of those attention and acceptance driven Hollyork dilettantes whose major contribution to the human condition is providing a few hours distraction in a dark, air conditioned room.
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Let us not forget the lefties golden rule…
Do as I say; not as I do…
… 😉
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This video is typical of lefty language.
Beware: Definitely not for most people.
Also, title is misleading. Should mention
gay store owner refuses service to some
Christian, potential customers. Think of
the big stink about the gay wedding cake
request and negative impact on the cake
business and its owners, thanks to lefties.
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Oops…
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Too funny…
Facebook must have deleted the video.
It was posted in both posts; but it is not
showing; how telling of the times. 😉
Breitbart has it; perhaps theirs will work.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/10/07/video-gay-coffee-shop-owner-shouts-profanities-at-christian-pro-life-group-kicks-them-out/
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What a disgusting arrogant vile man.
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Sitting down watching a weather channel that’s focused on the California wildfires. The TV screen’s full of a closeup from helicopter of a burning house as the talking head says: “That smoke, that darker smoke we’re seeing, is a sure indication that there’s something burning down there.”
Get the feeling someone might have been absent on the day the journalism class went over ‘if you don’t have anything to say keep your mouth shut’?
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Always double down on
avoiding “dead air time”;
at any and all costs. 😉
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This is true; even in my position, we don’t want dead air.
Of course, i would that they could say something more intelligent than “Something down there is burning.” No kidding!
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so much for being a sanctuary state…..burn it down…jail Jerry Brown….build that wall….
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Maybe when over 50% of the residents don’t speak English they’ll apply for foreign aid.
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So far the MSM’s been avoiding mentioning that today’s the 50th anniversary of Che’s well deserved execution. On October 9, 1967 in La Higuera, Bolivia, Felix Rodriguez and a Bolivian sergeant hosed Che down with an M-2 carbine. It reportedly took two bursts as the first just wounded Che in the arms and legs. Some wrote that off to poor marksmanship but with a lightly-kicking, full auto weapon at almost point blank range one wonders if the sergeant didn’t decide to let Che enjoy a dose of the misery he’d handed out in Bolivia.
Too bad the Communists don’t believe in Capitalism, they could have copyrighted Che’s image and made a fortune off of the t-shirts alone…now they’re all broke. So sad…
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Well of course they don’t mention. if they did, then the awkward question would come up: “What was he executed for?” And then all those people in Che t-shirts would feel really awkward.
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They should feel awkward regardless
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A dissertation on cloud formations and movement is called for should anyone care to share….
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LOL! The wrong one got posted…but this is nice should anyone want to put forth a dissertation on the starry sky….
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It doesn’t need a dissertation. Lucille. It speaks for itself.
“The heavens declare the glory of God…”
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That’s just purty.
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Hey folks, bought any frozen salmon steak at Walmart? If so you may have a stake in the next NK nuke ICBM that splashes in the US: http://nypost.com/2017/10/04/americans-may-be-propping-up-north-korea-by-buying-salmon-at-walmart/
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may want to change the Walmart Lox for security reasons then?
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Why would you schmear Walmart like that?
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Oy, the wisdom of salmon!
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Prov. 31 was Salmon’s best work.
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Yeah, and I could go all through Proverbs but I’ve used my monthly ‘ex’ card already.
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Nope. I buy wild caught salmon from Alaska.
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Packed there too, I hope? I found that our local independent has fresh salmon that’s been flown in to a local distributor, it’s a few bucks more but it’s all US and it’s fresh.
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Frozen filets, packed in Seattle by Peter Pan Seafood.
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I love the fresh flown in, we have a lake and our local independent gets fresh local shrimp, crabs and oysters and that about does us in. Oh yeah, none of that Vietnamese Mekong catfish crap either, Mississippi’s the catfish center of the world.
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And only Gulf shrimp – but I buy it frozen, raw in the shell.
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Yeah, problem is a lot of that foreign shrimp’s farmed and they have to pump chemicals in to support their being bulk grown in such a small space.
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Our local farmers market has a rule that all food sold there must be grown/farmed in Wisconsin.
People have been thrown out for selling produce that the head honcho din’t think was grown here. The guy even has gone to peoples farms to see for himself that yes indeed they have greenhouses and the produce was really grown here.
Yet.
Every week there is a guy there selling seafood. And he has this sign on his truck. He is a crusty old codger who I really like even if I don’t like or buy seafood. All that I can figure out is that they make an exception for seafood.
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That’s the way it should be done. Some years ago when I was working a ritzy area in NOLA there used to be an old guy with an old panel van that would show up, park by the curb and sell far-fresh veggies, some still with a touch of soil. He’d buy the veggies at a wholesaler, dirt-up a few and put them into little earthy wooden baskets, selling them for about twice what you could get them for at the grocery down the street. People just wanted to think they were specially farm grown.
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Planned Parenthood Spends Almost 10X More Money Buying Political Influence Than the NRA
By MICAIAH BILGER OCT 9, 2017 | 10:24AM WASHINGTON, DC
http://www.lifenews.com/2017/10/09/planned-parenthood-spends-almost-10x-more-money-buying-political-influence-than-the-nra/
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Yeah, Stella’s gotten us started on somethin’ there. Funny lady – and no dirty words required.
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She is a phenomenon.
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Interesting Thread next door.
Jessica Chambers Trial:
“The trial of her killer, 28-year-old Quinton Verdell Tellis, begins today with jury selection in Magnolia Mississippi. The jurors will then be transported to Batesville Mississippi for the trial.”
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lilbirdee12’s prayer:
Our Heavenly Father, Your children come to you tonight to ask for healing and peace throughout our country so that we may return to being One Nation Under God. Guide us to be leaders in Your Kingdom, spreading Your Love and Salvation to all. Forgive us our sins and deliver us from evil.
Lord, we ask for a blanket of protection over all our troops and law enforcement who serve to defend and protect us. Bless our representatives with the strength and wisdom they need to achieve the path You have chosen for us.
Please place Your Guardian Angels of Protection around Donald Trump and Mike Pence and their families as they seek to lead America back to You.
Grant us patience, Lord, as the evil ones try to anger us and cause us to fall.
Spread blessings over Israel and Netanyahu.
We humbly ask that You please comfort those who are grieving and in pain.
Thank you Father, for Your Love and the gift of Life.
And, Lord, we pray for all the people who have been affected by the earthquakes and hurricanes.
In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.
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Amen
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Amen.
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Amen.
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Amen
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What I texted my friend today:
Never, ever look down. Don’t only look sideways. Never be afraid to look up, and say “Help!” He does, lady. I’m proof.
I texted her that along with this:
I don’t want to see this lady cry. It’s hard to see. I want her to be strong and proud.
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The two are not mutually exclusive. Indeed, sometimes tears aid strength.
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