General Discussion, Wednesday, August 23, 2017

In August 1305, William Wallace was captured in Robroyston, near Glasgow, and handed over to King Edward I of England, who had him hanged, drawn, and quartered for high treason and crimes against English civilians on August 23. Since his death, Wallace has obtained an iconic status far beyond his homeland. Β  Β  Β  “Every man dies. Not every man really lives.”

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208 Responses to General Discussion, Wednesday, August 23, 2017

  1. Lucille says:

    FREEEEDOMMMMMM!

    From 1600 White House….COMING UP THIS WEEK….
    “Tomorrow, the President will address the National Convention of the American Legion in Nevada. The Vice President will be in Miami to meet with members of the Venezuelan exile community, recent Venezuelan migrants, other local leaders and officials about the continuing devastation and unrest in Venezuela.”

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  2. stella says:

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  3. Lucille says:

    Alan Dershowitz: β€˜Violent’ Antifa movement is β€˜trying to tear down America’
    By Jessica Chasmar – The Washington Times – Tuesday, August 22, 2017
    β€˜I think it’s the obligation of liberals to speak out against the hard left radicals’
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/aug/22/alan-dershowitz-violent-antifa-movement-is-trying-/

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  4. I’m playing an old PS2 game called Okami.

    It is the most artistic thing I’ve ever played. Someone here said a few weeks ago when I referenced the Studio Ghibli movies (all incredibly good, I have the collection circa five years ago) that the Japanese treat their product as art more than product.

    Disney’s many IPs exist for the bedsheets, the clothing, the toys, the Finding Nemo-related products. So does CPB. Sesame Street toys are a billion-dollar industry.

    Because George Lucas started this. So does Star Wars. It was never about the film.

    Japanese films and videogames (of which Okami is one) are ART FIRST. They are the product. I don’t know how many Mona Lisa toys there are, or The Persistance of Memory toys, for that matter. Probably few.

    Every single frame in this game is art derived from long Japanese art tradition. And the dialogue is full of stylized Japanese humor. It’s an amazing use of the Playstation 2 architecture. It is ART.

    I find myself pausing the game every few minutes just to stare at the screen in wonder at what they did with this digital medium, the PS2. It’s like Demoscene made a whole game.

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  5. “Righteous knowledge is the wellspring of righteous action… This is the true essence of any adventure.” — from the videogame Okami, right from the start.

    This — reality, that is — is an adventure. It’s why I don’t play videogames much any more.

    I’m living an adventure…

    But every now and then I dabble, especially in Japanese games, and I realize how much Christianity they contain. For a long time, now. The narrative, the dialogue.

    And yes, I’m up late.

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  6. ImpeachEmAll says:

    Have a laugh… πŸ˜‰

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  7. WeeWeed says:

    Mornin’ y’all!

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  8. nyetneetot says:

    Mornin’ stella! (Smiter of those that ought to be smote) 😎 🍸 (Long Island Iced Tea)
    Mornin’ WeeWeed! (Master Mixologist Extrodinare) 😎 🍸 (Old Fashioned)
    Mornin’ Menagerie! 😎 |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| (Jack Daniels – Single Barrel )
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    Mornin’ Sharon! 😎 🍸 🍸 (earthquake)
    Mornin’ ytz4mee! 😎 🍸 (cosmopolitan)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (white wine and perrier)
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    Mornin’ whiners and complainers! πŸ˜› (No drink for you!)
    Mornin’ to people posting that I missed. 😳
    Mornin’ to all you lurkers! πŸ˜•

    Also just in case someday; mornin’ to Elvis Chupacabra, F.D.R. in Hell and sundance! :mrgreen:

    Breakfast!

    NEW and IMPROVED breakfast with extra bacon for ZurichMike!

    Doughnuts for coffee!

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  9. stella says:

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  10. Lburg says:

    It occurred to me this morning that by law, companies are required to be truthful in their labeling of products and business activities, car manufacturers are required by law to be truthful about estimated gas mileage, realtors are required by law to be truthful about a home’s condition, citizens are required by law to be truthful about pretty much everything. The requirement ‘by law’ for truthfulness is mind boggling.

    So why is the MSM allowed to openly, provably lie?

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    • stella says:

      Might be a good topic for discussion. My quick take:

      – The examples you give are all requirements via regulation for specific, concrete, items. There is no opinion about product contents, gas mileage, condition of a home, income etc.
      – Much of what the media broadcasts or writes is opinion, and lying about facts isn’t illegal, per se, as it can be excused as mistaken, or bad sources, for example.
      – The 1st Amendment to the Constitution gives special protection to the press against legislative interference by Congress, which is a higher level of protection than any other group other than churches.
      – Individuals, or groups (such as businesses) have the right to sue for defamation (slander or libel).

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      • Lburg says:

        Agree. However, if the press was required to label their ‘reporting’ as opinion it would clarify things. What if they were required to show source material?

        For example, what if CNN was required to show unedited clips of President Trump’s Charlottesville remarks in their entirety, and then were required to label their nattering as opinion?

        They are still free to speculate to their heart’s content, and viewers could potentially see the disconnect between reality and their waste of oxygen.

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      • Menagerie says:

        I agree. It would absolutely be desirable to have more honesty in the press, and never something that could or should be legislated. That would be a slippery slope leading to more abuse than we have now.

        Many people are incredibly stupid, and they actively defend their stupidity. They refuse to educate themselves and bitterly resent any attempt to show them facts.

        None of that paragraph is sarcasm. You cannot, in spite of all attempts to do so, legislate intelligence and make the public be well informed.

        I’ve studied statistics some. You can do everything from skewing the survey pool and size to outright manipulation to get “truth.” There is no way that legislation would improve things. At best, we would fight in depth and at great expense over what is truthful. At worst, the left in power would utilize such laws to eliminate every last bit of opposition, just like Google, Facebook, PayPal, and al, thenother corporate puppets are doing now.

        And it’s not just surveys that can be manipulated. You can tell part of a story. You can tell one side of it. You, as we have seen so much, can not tell it at all.

        And, exactly as you pointed out, we have the 1st Amendment. It would be contrary to that, and imperil it.

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        • Lburg says:

          I’m not proposing regulating what they say or how they say it. What I’m proposing is that along with their right to their views, that context be required.

          Play an unedited, uncut video, for example, of President Trump’s Charlottesville statements and THEN they can commence their lies. Of course this only works when there is a publicly available source for their screeds.

          I’m not proposing regulating what they say, only proposing that they be required to show the source when that source is publicly available.

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      • joshua says:

        The media did not get the message….as old and as true as it is and always was….

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    • joshua says:

      well…..there IS Volkswagen’s Emissions Test Results as an example of non truth.

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    • auscitizenmom says:

      And, why not CONGRESS?!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • joshua says:

      media lobby of the politicians…the politicians MUST have the media support to be elected and re elected and to publish their advertisings…..today, MSM is part of the DC swamp…purely and evilly and UN American.

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    • G-d&Country says:

      “provably lie” is the big thing – intent for “journalists”, but we’ve gone way past proving that. Now it’s just enforcing it, and the political backlash of squelching “free speech”, but is a purposeful lie “free speech”? My opinion is no. It is either slander or or I forget the other one. (sorry in a huge hurry – must get back to work) Great observation though!

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      • G-d&Country says:

        OK time for a tiny break.
        I went to
        http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Libel+and+Slander
        In general, there are four defenses to libel or slander: truth, consent, accident, and privilege. …. Privilege confers Immunity on a small number of defendants who are directly involved in the furtherance of the public’s businessβ€”for example, attorneys, judges, jurors, and witnesses whose statements are protected on public policy grounds.
        Before 1964, defamation law was determined on a state-by-state basis, with courts applying the local Common Law.
        Questions of Freedom of Speech were generally found to be irrelevant to libel or slander cases, and defendants were held to be strictly liable even if they had no idea that the communication was false or defamatory, or if they had exercised reasonable caution in ascertaining its truthfulness. This deference to state protection of personal reputation was confirmed in Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire.
        In 1964, the Court changed the direction of libel law dramatically with its decision in NEW YORK TIMES V. SULLIVAN, 376 U.S. 254, 84 S. Ct. 710, 11 L. Ed. 2d 686 (1964). For the first time, the Court placed some libelous speech under the protection of the First Amendment.
        Since Sullivan, a public official or other person who has voluntarily assumed a position in the public eye must prove that a libelous statement “was made with ‘actual malice’β€”that is, with knowledge that it was false or with reckless disregard to whether it was false or not” (Sullivan). The actual-malice standard does not require any ill will on the part of the defendant. Rather, it merely requires the defendant to be aware that the statement is false or very likely false. Reckless disregard is present if the plaintiff can show that the defendant had “serious doubts as to the truth of [the] publication” (see St. Amant v. Thompson, 390 U.S. 727, 88 S. Ct. 1323, 20 L. Ed. 2d 262 [1968]).
        THE PUBLIC FIGURE DOCTRINE: AN UNWORKABLE CONCEPT?
        The “public figure” doctrine announced by the Supreme Court in Curtis Publishing v. Butts, 388 U.S. 130, 87 S. Ct. 1975, 18 L. Ed. 2d 1094 (1967), held that prominent public persons had to prove actual malice (knowledge of falsity or reckless disregard of whether a statement is true or false) on the part of the news media in order to prevail in a LIBEL lawsuit.
        What they are doing is illegal. They know they are spreading lies.
        Back to work!

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    • I’ve been saying that for years, but you put it better than I ever did, Lburg.

      Why is lying legal, just for MSM and politicians and lawyers? For everyone else, it’s not. Why are they exempt? Imagine being a chef and lying to the Health Department. “Hey, it’s just my Freedom of Speech, man!”

      It’s a sick double standard.

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  11. stella says:

    Seen on Facebook:

    Any doubts about who Antifa REALLY hates?
    Surprise, it’s not Trump.

    The Warrior-Poet explains:

    “Political Wednesday (Sigh. I am up to two days a week now)

    People that support Trump get that Trump is not liked, but do not realize it is them that is hated. Trump is merely the recipient of this hatred. It is YOU that is hated, and it is hatred. Trump is a disingenuous way to attack you, while preserving a figment of high ground.The left has long ago cultivated self loathing into Americans. Projecting is also a primary tool of the left. The combination simply pivots self rage/hatred into anarchy. After all, we are victims, right?

    They hate you. They hate. As time goes on, the “Hate Trump” crowd is forced to reveal their hand.
    They hate capitalism- you. They hate white- you. They hate old- you. They hate southerners- you.
    They hate northerners- you. They hate christians- you. They hate jews- you. They hate… They hate their nation- you. They hate the flag- you.
    They hate the military- you.

    It is totally misleading to allow that they hate Trump. It’s always been YOU!

    They hated your parents. They hated your grandparents. They hated their parents. Get it? There is only a single thing new here: The mechanism by which they camouflage themselves.

    ANTIFA concealing themselves as “Anti Fascist” is no different than burning down the Reichstag. No one actually believed Hitler’s opponents burned the parliament in that False Flag, but it provided the cover necessary to offer plausible intervention, aka, Cover for Status and Action.

    Everyone knows Right Wing fascism in America is about as widespread as men born with 20″ penis- there are surely some, but it really amounts to little. However, the goal is to quickly expand the definition, conflate those who protest the association with those who… are associated, and broadly attack all American institutions.

    Think back to those days where you mused “When the time comes, I will not go gently into that good night,” and you considered all the sacrifices of those who went before you. If you do not see that these days are now here, you will be among those history cannot count on. This is the prologue. No doubt.

    * Crash Hx course.

    1. Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Castro, Che, Hitler, USSR, Venezuela, etc, etc, ad naseum… were all leftists.
    2. KKK, Slaveholders in the South during Civil War- Leftists/Democrats.

    Its pretty fkg obvious projection is a primary tool of deflection for these misanthropes.”

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    • czarowniczy says:

      Was there ever any doubt they hated us? All you have to do is go to black or Latino sites and soak in the ‘kill whitey’ rhetoric, go to the white Leftist sites and get a slightly cleaned up version of the ‘death to whitey’ rhetoric (white self-hate sites seem to lack the dedication of more diverse sites) where we’re ‘conservatives’, ‘revanchists’, ‘reactiobaries’, whatever they can come up with that dehumanizes us in a polite way.
      Trump, lime Reagan and the Bushs, are hated as they represent our control, direct extensions of us. It’s like how they blame guns and not the shooters.

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    • nyetneetot says:

      “Everyone knows Right Wing fascism in America is about as widespread as men born with 20β€³ penis- there are surely some, but it really amounts to little.”



      I’m just going to let that statement hang there for a while.

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    • ImpeachEmAll says:

      All the more reason to sign the partition. πŸ˜‰

      Sign the petition, please…

      Petition to have ANTIFA labeled as a terrorist organization.
      The more the merrier. A few million would send a message.

      HERE: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/formally-recognize-antifa-terrorist-organization-0

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  12. Jacqueline Taylor Robson says:

    Scotland’s National Anthem

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  13. joshua says:

    Robert the Bruce of Scotland
    Fought for his country

    Robert E. Lee

    fought for HIS COUNTRY

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    • Lburg says:

      Can you imagine anyone in Scotland wanting to tear down Robert the Bruce’s statue because he was a nationalist?

      Me either.

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    • Menagerie says:

      We can argue good and bad on the Cilil War all day long. Here’s my bottom line. The South I was raised in was a living, breathing remnant of that Dixie fought for and defended by Robert E. Lee, Stonewall Jackson, Patrick Cleburn, and all the men who fought and died for the land they loved and a cause they believed in.

      It is not revisionist history like lefties claim that the South believed in States’ rights and the right to secede. We were taught those things not by history books and teachers, but by our parents and grandparents and society down here, by the literal descendants of those who fought for it, and who still believed in it.

      The South I have lived in and loved my whole life is more than a geographic region on a map. She IS a grand old dame, slow talking, slow walking, with white gloved ladies still occasionally to be glimpsed at a tea party. There are still old men who are named Beauregard, Robert, or around my neck of the woods, Patrick, after General Cleburne.

      You can’t hardly find a town down here where the locals can’t find a house to show you old bloodstains still on the old stone step. People will show you the rifle their great great granddaddy carried at Chickamauga. Last week I said my Divine Mercy chaplet at the Silverdale Conferate Cemetary for the unknown but not forgotten soldiers buried there, not the first time I have entered through the old arched gates. I found recent flowers there, as well as, to my surprise, some sacramentals left by an unknown fellow Catholic.

      Just down the road from me is an old stone church that was a field hospital. Yankees rode their horses into this place of God and healing and I have seen the hoofpronts in the old floor.

      Teenagers dare to walk the trails of Chickamauga Battlefield at dusk, hoping for a glimpse of Green Eyes. Not one of us, young or old, looks at the creek in that Battlefield and fails to see it red with blood in our first imagining glimpse.

      Damned near every family has a cornbread, biscuit, or cookie recipe handed down by some woman who wiped the sweat from her brow as she stoked her wood fire to cook it, glancing out the window and wondering if her husband and sons lay dead on some distant, or worse yet, near, battlefield.

      All my life I have lived in a world that still hears far off bugle cries and the roar of battle and cannons. Our statues, monuments, museums, and very way of life, the names of our towns, our schools, our children, the portraits on the wall in the courthouses, they all pay tribute to that world that never quite fully surrendered.

      And I hate that my grandchildren won’t live in that world, with that honor, that respect, and that pride of who and what we are.

      I am never going to apologize for loving where I live, my home, the part of my soul that is Southern. I don’t have one ounce of white guilt. I will live as I have, and though I can’t replicate the history and the society for my grandchildren, I will pass on all that I can to them, and hope they feel a part of the love I do.

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        • czarowniczy says:

          Let’s not forget the military installations still servicing us that the military named after Confederate leaders. If the people who fought the South thought well enough of their opponents to name forts and bases after them the New Left can go and &&&&&&& themselves.
          The New Left has about a handful of members who ever put themselves in uniform and have no rights to tear down memorials to those who did. The current and former military members are starting to grumble about the Left’s actions and I know the Left won’t be able to resist attacking memorials to Confederate dead in cemeteries and eventually even their graves…let’s see what happens then.

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          • czarowniczy says:

            Click… memory reactivated.
            I made some ground convoy runs between Qui Nhon and Pleiku along hiway 19. In an uncomfortable place named Mang Yang Pass, a perfect ambush point.
            First time through the Army sergeant stopped our small group and showed us an overgrown graveyard. In June of 1954 a French Army unit, Group 100, was ordered to evacuate its positions and reform in Pleiku. As they transited Mang Yang they were ambushed by the Viet Minh and suffered large losses. The French buried their dead standing up and facing France, we could still see the graves though there was a good deal of overgrowth. They graves were still there in 1967.
            The Vietnamese did remove the gravestones but never disturbed the graves. I’m told that France exhumed the bodies in the 80s and returned them to France. Not all of the Real Left disrespects their dead opponents. .

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      • lovely says:

        Thank you Menagerie for your beautiful testament to the heart of the South.

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      • joshua says:

        The black folks I KNEW were spoken to politely by white kids and folks….the women were “Aunt Sennie” and the men were “Uncle Toby”….and no one was offended by polite conversation between the races. Social cultures were different, as were financial situations….but there was no over riding hatred or smoldering anger to be found….and the community helped anyone in need, white or black or whatever…..and no one had to ask folks to help out…it was natural.

        My great great grandfather and his son, my great grandfather walked off to the war because they had no horse to ride, and none ever owned slaves..and they were taken prisoners and put into Union POW camps until the end of the war, when they walked back home to Texas….they just raised their crops and took care of family and friends….they were common citizens, Presbyterians, and hard workers…but who knew that their land had been invaded and their Legal Nation had been attacked and they went to defend their land and way of life…not to abuse black people or to support the institution of slavery…..Confederate soldiers mostly had never owned slaves, and were just plain God fearing folks, worried that their family and community would be killed or harmed…..they did what THEIR conscience TOLD them to do.

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        • Menagerie says:

          In my childhood there were black people who I loved as much or more than family. I learned the state capitals and was drilled on my times tables by one employee at my dad’s business.

          There were black business owners we dealt with, though few, you’re rights there were economic differences. But some had already made it out of poverty and many were working towards it.

          When I was a child, most of the black people I knew had good, stable, and loving family lives, something I myself lacked, and I respected and envied them that. Many of them I loved. I had black friends.

          And yet, there were terrible things. Many people hated the,, many people cheated them. Through all that, back in the days of my childhood, almost all of them retained their dignity, kindness, and I always thought they were the ones to be admired when seeing them pitted against REAL racists.

          As much as I love the South, the memories I have of it, the life I led, was not one open to black people.

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        • czarina33 says:

          Several of my older patients call it the “War of Northern Aggression”

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  14. czarowniczy says:

    Redefining failure. The director of the New Orleans Sewerage and Water Board who was atbthe helm when the city flooded twice within a month and fed phony information to the press, city government and public is retiring. He will draw a $175,000 pension. Whst’s left to say?

    http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2017/08/175k_pension_awaits_new_orlean.html

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  15. stella says:

    Twitter tried to protect me from this ‘sensitive’ material:

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  16. G-d&Country says:

    Here is a painting by one of my favorite artists, the great painter and sculptor of the west, Frederic Remington – a self portrait. Let’s not forget the beauty of the past in our country, despite those trying to say it was all awful. πŸ™‚

    Have a great day everyone, and good afternoon to everyone at Stella’s πŸ™‚
    Thanks for the WW day Stella.
    Back to work.

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  17. czarowniczy says:

    Arrggghhhhh….ARRRRRGGGGHHHHH….STUPIDITY…..STUPIDITY!!!

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41022954

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  18. Tripod Eclipse. Lucky shot this morning at sunrise.

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  19. Wooly Covfefe says:

    Taken from the bridge.

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    • Wooly Covfefe says:

      The blue building (click for full) is actually on a barge, Admiral Jack’s, a bar/restaurant that opened last year. The one to the west of it has been around for decades, called The Idler. Both are popular restaurant/bars in the summer. The great thing about both is that the owners don’t have to pay property taxes, because they’re not actually on land.

      Chef worked at The Idler years ago, and said that when the divers who did maintenance on the hull went down below, they found bus-tubs full of dishes on the river bottom. Some kids will do anything to get out of work. There’s a deli slicer down there, too, I’m told. Chef put it there.

      πŸ˜€

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    • Wooly Covfefe says:

      The tall-ship on the right is the Friends Good Will. One evening I’ll go out on it, for their sunset cruise. Some day.

      I can see the Hotel Nichols at about 10:00 (directionally-speaking) from Admiral Jack’s, and the giant movie theater I never go to, which I can also see from my window.

      I know every building in this picture. Blessed to be here. The flowers in the foreground are on the bridge itself, because the bridge is lined with flower boxes.

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      • Wooly Covfefe says:

        Hotel Nichols is about 120 years old. I know every inch of it. The basement is a maze and resembles a dungeon for short people. Upstairs there is a hidden door, which is a hinged bookcase, that leads you to another part of the hotel. Absolutely amazing building. I think at one point it may have served as a brothel, as one of the rooms has mirrors on the ceiling, that were painted over years ago. Rumor has it that the matriarch (Nichols herself) died when she fell down the stairs to the lobby. I’ve been there many times, late at night, in the winter, the only person in the building. Playing a piano made my Everett Piano Co., built right here in SH, that sits in the lobby. The factory was razed decades ago, but it’s a solid, well-tuned console. I played that piano for hours, in the middle of the night, because I had the keys. There’s nothing more peaceful than playing a piano in a 120-year-old building when you’re the only person there.

        The people who own it are wonderful Poles, and were quite instrumental in my healing. In the winter they were Chicagoans, I just had the keys, and kept an eye on the place. One day I was polishing the lobby floor with a giant industrial floor buffer. I forgot how to use it, it had been so long. As soon as I turned it on, it spun me around and knocked me on my butt, wrapped the cord around itself, kept running, and I crawled, panicked, to unplug it from the wall, because I couldn’t figure out how to turn it off. Nobody saw me, because this town is DEAD in the winter. But if anyone did, they would have laughed, because it was like slapstick comedy, a-la The Three Stooges. I was like Cosmo Kramer in that moment.

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        • stella says:

          Could have been a speakeasy (hidden door.)

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          • Wooly Covfefe says:

            Of all the old buildings I’ve ever spent time in, that one should be haunted. But it isn’t. I’m very sensitive to these things, and I never experienced anything that caused my hackles to rise, or give me goosebumps. Nothing but peace, even in the basement.

            There are places in my restaurant I don’t want to go in. Two different basements, as it was a bowling alley, then a club, and then a bar, and then a restaurant, over many decades. The back basement is just hallway-wide, the width of the giant back-room/warehouse (which was formerly the alley itself, the bowling lanes). This back basement was the pin-setting room, where a crazy guy named Gene was allowed to live and work. They fed him and paid him to work. Word has it he died in the machinery somehow. I see things out of the corner of my eye in the back warehouse.

            Me and Chef met the granddaughter of the guy who owned the bowling alley, sitting at the bar with her beau. We pried every bit of info we could out of her, and she was happy to divulge.

            Weird stuff happens in the building I work in, even according to many people I’ve spoken with who worked here for years.

            But not at Hotel Nichols. Not ever. Not in my building, either, which is just as old, if not older, and has even more history.

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  20. Wooly Covfefe says:

    One more, sunrise at the marina.

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  21. G-d&Country says:

    Heard today Mark Steyn filling in for Rush:
    http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-usc-traveler-20170818-story.html
    Traveler, USC’s mascot, comes under scrutiny for having a name similar to Robert E. Lee’s horse
    !!!!! A lot of horses are named Traveler! Not even spelled the same Gen’l Lee’s horse Traveller – 2 LL’s.
    It’s a Trojan warrior, not Confederate!
    Eyeroll.

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  22. joshua says:

    This guy killed a lot of Americans and Immigrants in the USA….but no one thinks that these images are violent and offensive…..they are actually artistic representations of historical figures…not about moral judgement.

    So Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson are WORSE humans?

    Geddouttahere…..pure political garbage.

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  23. G-d&Country says:

    In reference to rally post yesterday by auscitizenmom about crowdsondemand. I looked up this:
    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2102
    18 U.S. Code Β§ 2102 – Definitions
    a) As used in this chapter, the term β€œriot” means a public disturbance involving (1) an act or acts of violence by one or more persons part of an assemblage of three or more persons, which act or acts shall constitute a clear and present danger of, or shall result in, damage or injury to the property of any other person or to the person of any other individual or (2) a threat or threats of the commission of an act or acts of violence by one or more persons part of an assemblage of three or more persons having, individually or collectively, the ability of immediate execution of such threat or threats, where the performance of the threatened act or acts of violence would constitute a clear and present danger of, or would result in, damage or injury to the property of any other person or to the person of any other individual.
    (b) As used in this chapter, the term β€œto incite a riot”, or β€œto organize, promote, encourage, participate in, or carry on a riot”, includes, but is not limited to, urging or instigating other persons to riot, but shall not be deemed to mean the mere oral or written (1) advocacy of ideas or (2) expression of belief, not involving advocacy of any act or acts of violence or assertion of the rightness of, or the right to commit, any such act or acts.
    (Added Pub. L. 90–284, title I, Β§β€―104(a), Apr. 11, 1968, 82 Stat. 76.)
    Interesting huh?

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  24. Lucille says:

    Most interesting….

    EYE ON CHINA, U.S TO SEND AIRCRAFT CARRIER TO VIETNAM: TOP 5 FACTS
    Defense Updates

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  25. stella says:

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  26. Wooly Covfefe says:

    This is Covfefe.

    Trump, on purpose, saying something he knows will frenzy and refocus the MSM, and going back to working policy, while the talking heads focus on that “stupid” thing he said or tweeted.

    Covfefe.

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  27. Wooly Covfefe says:

    Also from this morning:

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  28. Wooly Covfefe says:

    imgur is fun! I need a printer. And someone who can make frames. And some canvas.

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  29. auscitizenmom says:

    I love Mike Rowe. πŸ™‚

    “Mike Rowe Expertly Devastates Whiny Troll Who Links Him to White Nationalism”
    Former Dirty Jobs host Mike Rowe is doing what most of us wish all celebrities would do: keep their political opinions to themselves. But when someone trolled him on Facebook to complain about his silence on current issues and somehow link him to white nationalists, Rowe had to respond and did so in a blistering rebuttal in a way only he can.

    http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/mike-rowe-expertly-devastates-whiny-troll-who-links-him-white-nationalism

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  30. auscitizenmom says:

    lilbirdee12’s prayer:

    Our Heavenly Father, Your children come to you tonight to ask for healing and peace throughout our country so that we may return to being One Nation Under God. Guide us to be leaders in Your Kingdom, spreading Your Love and Salvation to all. Forgive us our sins and deliver us from evil.

    Lord, we ask for a blanket of protection over all our troops and law enforcement who serve to defend and protect us. Bless our representatives with the strength and wisdom they need to achieve the path You have chosen for us.

    Please place Your Guardian Angels of Protection around Donald Trump and Mike Pence and their families as they seek to lead America back to You.

    Grant us patience, Lord, as the evil ones try to anger us and cause us to fall.
    Spread blessings over Israel and Netanyahu.

    We humbly ask that You please comfort those who are grieving and in pain.
    Thank you Father, for Your Love and the gift of Life.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen

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  31. Lucille says:

    Yeah, guess Daddy was a racisss….

    Nancy Pelosi’s Father Once Dedicated a Statue to Robert E. Lee
    By CORTNEY O’BRIEN AUG 23, 2017 | 5:47PM WASHINGTON, DC
    http://www.lifenews.com/2017/08/23/nancy-pelosis-father-once-dedicated-a-statue-to-robert-e-lee/

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  32. Lucille says:

    Oy, I’m behind the times…didn’t read this info anywhere until I just clicked on Front Page Magazine….

    THE BUNDY CASE CONTINUES TO FALL APART
    August 23, 2017 – Daniel Greenfield
    http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/267669/bundy-case-continues-fall-apart-daniel-greenfield

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