General Discussion, Tuesday, July 11, 2017

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  1. ImpeachEmAll says:

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    • Wooly Covfefe says:

      Wow. I really don’t know what to think about this song, besides “amazing”.

      I don’t want my friend to die. He is convinced he will, in short order, because of a brain tumor and epilepsy. He works two days a week. He has two young kids.

      And he wants to die. He is superintelligent. And, naturally, an Atheist. He believes that after this life = 0. Off-switch. Nothing.

      He wants to die because he no longer wants to be a burden on his woman, and his kids, who get to see him have epileptic seizures that break his feet, about once a week.

      When I met him, I told him, “I will not argue, debate, or otherwise discuss religion with you, because my Silver Tongue has never convinced anyone that I am right, and nobody’s Silver Tongue has ever convinced me that I am wrong.”

      I wish he would just get on his freakin’ knees and ask God to convince him.

      A few weeks ago, I told him that Christ can heal the paraplegics. He did, actually. My friend asked me, contemptually, “You really believe that crap is true?” I nodded. He shook his head.

      And he wants to die, and won’t even take Pascal’s Wager.

      I wish I could scream it at him. “What do you have to lose by trying that?!!”

      He knows every mushroom in MI. Every animal. Every plant and tree. He knows how to program old cellphones and how to blow stuff up real good, because he’s a chemist. He knows how to fly airplanes. And he wants to die. And he’s a wonderful bartender.

      I don’t get it, actually. I just pray for him. And I tell him that. And that I’m not ever going to preach to him, because he’s heard the “fictional story” as he sees it, but instead I’m going to display it.

      I used to want to die. Granted, I didn’t have what he’s having. God is a healer, and a miracle-worker.

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      • Wooly Covfefe says:

        He is actually a superintelligent person.

        Somehow he thinks he’s smarter than these people, and so he must, and SHOULD die, because there is no God:

        https://infogalactic.com/info/List_of_Christians_in_science_and_technology

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        • Menagerie says:

          A story about St. John Vianney, the CurΓ© of Ars, He was one of the great confessors of the Church, and could read souls. He was beloved, and his abilities drew many to the Sacrament of Confession. One day there was a heartbroken widow in the line. Her husband had committed suicide by jumping off a bridge. As he was passing her, he stopped and told her “He is not in hell. He made his Act of Contrition before hitting the water.”

          There are variations to the small details in the telling of this story, but they all agree on the fact that he consoled the widow and declared the man’s literal last moment repentance. This is the one a very learned lady gave our RCIA class.

          Pray that your friend might be given this grace, right up until the moment he dies. I will pray with you for him. There is hope Wooly, always we hope in the grace of Christ.

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          • lovely says:

            One of my favorite St. John Vianney stories is about when a traveling priest came to visit his church. The priest was widely known for his great intellect and eloquent homilies and talks. I believe he was spending a week at the St. John’s church. All about town people were talking about his wonderful words and his vast knowledge of the bible. One day while he was there St. John gave the homily.

            Afterward the priest (likely a Jesuit πŸ˜‹) was seen weeping in a pew. Someone asked him what was wrong and he said β€œWhen I speak the people talk of what a great intellect I am, about my fancy way with words and great knowledge, when Father John speaks they talk about how much God loves us.”

            Another favorite story is how when St. John was out walking often townsfolk would come up to him to gossip under the guise of asking for pray. β€œOh please father we must pray for Antonia’s daughter she was found in the hay barn with Ralph’s son!” St John would get a wry smile and say β€œYes we must and we must start immediately.” He would then take out his rosary tell the gossiper to join him, he would dismiss any protest they had with, β€œnow is the time for pray.” and proceed to pray the 15 decade rosary walking in one direction the entire way which would leave the gossiper far from their starting point by the time they were done praying.

            I almost picked him as my patron saint.

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            • Menagerie says:

              There are so many wonderful stories about him. Frequently I ask his intercession that I make a good confession, and for the priest who is hearing confessions.

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              • lovely says:

                I also do the same. I have asked the man who jumped from the bridge to intercede on behalf in cases of suicidal people.

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                • Menagerie says:

                  I love that idea, I will do the same. Thanks lovely, I had a half brother who committed suicide when I was a child.

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                  • lovely says:

                    My husband died by suicide. I try to do what I can.

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                  • stella says:

                    I’m sorry, lovely. I have had friends who died in this way, and the husband of a coworker took his own life in a spectacular fashion. I know it is life-altering in a particularly painful way.

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                  • lovely says:

                    Thank you Stella. It is life altering and for me it was a tremendous shock as he was not depressed, he didn’t talk about it or exhibit any signs, not an alcoholic or drug abuser…. There are of course a lot of of should have, could have, would have, but as time goes by an then years go by we learn to live again.

                    Because I had three girls, the youngest 6 years old I had to focus on them and hearing them, I can’t say I was totally successful but I know I did my best.

                    It is really an impossible task to explain to children that their dad thought their world would be better without him and with the legacy of his suicide around them.

                    Time does not heal all wounds but I live by these two quotes.

                    Birds sing after a storm; why shouldn’t people feel as free to delight in whatever remains to them? __Rose Kennedy

                    And The way we can best honor those who have left us is to do what they can not, and that is to simply joyfully live our life.

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                  • Menagerie says:

                    It seems everyday we find we have more in common.

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                  • Wooly Covfefe says:

                    Amazing. As did my brother, when I was 18, and he was 19.

                    Didn’t know that, Lovely. Thanks for your advice, Stellars. I cannot say how God’s gonna reach my friend, but I know He will. There’s so much synergy in life, isn’t there? Chef told us the other day, while we were taking a break and discussing life, how his grandfather killed himself, and his uncle, too. His grandpa had a disease, his uncle lost 8 kids in a house fire.

                    So many weird coincidences.

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                  • Menagerie says:

                    Lovely, your courage and attitude must have been such a blessing for your family. I am deeply sorry for your loss.

                    My brother was seriously mentally ill. Most likely from the hideous childhood he and my half sister suffered. I was too young to wonder and “what if” after, but I damned well hope my father and his ex wife spent the rest of their lives doing it. Unfortunately evidence seemed otherwise.

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                  • czarowniczy says:

                    Obe of my main divergences with the Church…I do not believe suicide are seperated from God. I have relatives who’ve suicided due to mental illness and the Church wouldn’t let them be buried on sacred soil and gave us the old ‘they committed a mortal sin’ routine with all sorts of tortuous manmade reasons why it couldn’t be forgiven, despite the suicides in the Bible.
                    Afraid I can’t accept that God would send one of His children to eternal damnation for an act that releases him from pain to great to bear, especially if that person has a mental illness. I know the pain the suicide causes those left behind but could any of you not understand and forgive that suicide despite the pain it caused you? Would you further curse that person to damnation for not being able to stand the pain and for the pain the suicide caused you?
                    God is supposed to be all-knowing and all-seeing with a capacity for all-encompassing love so I don’t see the suicide being seperated from His understanding and love. At least my God…we’ll see.

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      • auscitizenmom says:

        Wooly, I want you to know I have been praying for him every day since you told us about him.

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      • lovely says:

        I’ll pray for your friend Wooly. Life is hard, it’s harder in intellectual circles. In general atheists of his type have made knowledge their God. He is not the first to put knowledge before God.

        God knows the journey and sees the soul. You are in his life for a reason. Menagerie’s story about St. John is one of my favorite stories about hope.

        St. John Vianney is a tremendous soul.

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    • shiloh1973 says:

      Best rendition of this song. I had it on an album when I was young, and I wore it out. A bunch of us would sing it when we were stationed overseas. That and “Detroit City”

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  2. MaryfromMarin says:

    Nice color saturation in the photo, stella.

    Even I, with my compromised visual acuity*, can see that.

    [*h/t nyet]

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    • czarowniczy says:

      Attack of the Killer Broccoli?

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      • MaryfromMarin says:

        YOU can attack the killer broccoli, if you wish.

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      • MaryfromMarin says:

        Wildly improbable theme association:

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      • lovely says:

        Did I ever share the story of how I walked into a grocery store and there was a large display of cauliflower with signs on it that read “White Broccoli.”

        SMH

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        • auscitizenmom says:

          LOL

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        • Menagerie says:

          As Mary would say, very loose theme association. As you know, down here Catholics are a very small percentage of the population. Years ago one of my sisters in law got me interested in antiques and I have since spent many hours enjoying poking around in the antique stores around my corner of Tennessee and Georgia. Frequently I see pictures of the Sacred Heart labeled Jesus, saints pictures listed as “old religious picture” and icons and other items listed as religious items. Some of the things I find are very common items to Catholics, but few know what they are.

          My favorite finding was actually in Indiana, a meerschaum carving of the nativity framed in an elaborate round wooden frame with a domed glass cover. I paid 35 dollars for it. It’s very beautifully done.

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          • lovely says:

            Sounds beautiful.

            My godfather was at a rectory, when he opened a drawer to put something in it he found over a dozen relics, the priest said , “Meh, that belief is out of date” 😐. So my godfather asked if he could have them and the priest said “sure.”

            They are now revered.

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            • Menagerie says:

              About three years ago we had a priest come to the Basilica of Saints Peter and Paul in Chattanooga to take over for the aging and infirm long time rector. The old priest was a very good friend to my husband’s family and he was a good priest, but he was an avowed Democrat and absolutely a no frills post VII type priest.

              The new rector is perhaps the holiest man, the most learned and devout priest I have ever seen. He is mid thirties I’m guessing, and oh, the changes and growth and beauty he has brought to our parish! In the old safe he found a multitude of relics, and they are now lovingly placed on St’ Joseph’s altar, with a directory, a kneeler, and brief stories about the saints. On special occasions some are placed on the main altar during mass.

              One man who is centered in Christ sure can make a difference. There were people who left the parish when he came, but many, many more came, especially young families. Never have I seen a mass said with more reverence than he says mass. The beauty and wonder of the liturgy and the music have unfortunately drawn some away from the ancient form that he says monthly, as well as the two additional “Latin” masses said monthly up the road.
              Is your godfather a priest? In any case, I am so glad that he came into possession of the relics.

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              • lovely says:

                Yes my godfather is a priest. Very devout he was raised catholic, left the church, went to CalTech, became a solar energy scientist and then found his way home and became a priest.

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            • Later tonight I’ll post the pic I took of St. Basil’s, our local Church.

              After our discussion, I took a bike ride over there, a couple of hours ago, because I felt I needed to.

              I laid on my back on the lawn in front of the building and took a beautiful picture of this beautiful building. And then just sat and prayed.

              Some day, I’ll walk inside. I keep getting closer.

              Love you folks.

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          • czarowniczy says:

            Matthew 18:20

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          • lovely says:

            PS When we lived in NC my fundamentalist Baptist neighbor used to put Chick tracts in my mailbox telling me that me and mine were going straight to hell. πŸ™ƒ. They each only had one coat in the living quarters of the house so when the seasons were interchangeable they had to go up in their attic and swap out coat for a coat that would fit the weather of that particular day because it was sinful to have more than one cloak at a time and not give the extra away to the poor.

            I always thought I might see them on the news one day as the first non family members who joined the Westboro Baptist Church.

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            • Menagerie says:

              Can’t tell you how many times my boys were “saved” when they were kids and I was not around. Just thinking about that still makes me livid as hell. If I had even so much as mentioned the Virgin Mary around their kids they’d have stroked out. I always respected others religious views, most especially with their children and I never got the same respect.

              I would have literally been in a lot of knock down drag outs over it but my husband always yanked me back, sometimes physically. I’m still pretty perturbed at him over that. He grew up Catholic and is accustomed to the bias down here, especially since his family were the only Catholics in their little town, and were really greatly discriminated against. But I converted and I have never developed a tolerance for the insults. One of the less admirable reasons I was drawn to Catholicism was the lack of pressure. When I was a teenager and I visited churches with my friends the pastors or their wives would literally try to drag me up for the “altar call.” They kept a board with the number of souls saved, and they just wanted me to be one of those numbers. I never, ever gave in.

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              • lovely says:

                I’m an adult convert and so was my husband and really we experienced far more discrimination and ugliness (me in particular as a stay home, homeschooling mom) from the academics at Texas A & M than we did from people of different religions. The one nutter in my neighborhood aside people really didn’t seem to push their religion or mind ours in NC or Texas.

                Our immediate neighbor was a baptist and our kids played all day long with out any preaching from anyone. Our other immediate neighbor was a wild couple whose child I semi adopted when we lived there and they had no religious affiliation. It was a tiny town of 4,400 so maybe the folks were just nicer because everyone knew everyone?

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              • lovely says:

                Oh! I just remembered someone did have me read a prayer and then told me Wham-o-bamo I was saved and there was nothing I could do to shake that salvation.

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                • stella says:

                  Hate to say this, but it sounds like the Muslims.

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                • Wooly Covfefe says:

                  I don’t believe there is much we can do to shake salvation once we are baptized and confess Christ as our savior. I’m proof. I witnessed on the streets of Detroit in Youth Group (Assemblies of God).

                  When my bro died, I went nuts, and spent my twenties tripping on acid and trying — actively trying — to convince all my new druggie friends in Boston that the Bible is all complete bull. I was in 4 different mental hospitals, for weeks at a time, for major depression. When I see these lefty protests, I think, “There, but for the grace of God, go I.” The whole time I was hanging with these folks, I knew I was not where I needed to be. When I went to NH, His Mansion, and we were in our praise and worship, with everyone singing but me, I wanted to crawl out of my skin I felt so out of place.

                  I believe that depression, in the case of a Christian, is Conviction. As I quit sinning, bit by bit, depression went away, and peace came in, in it’s place. No drugs, no SSRIs. Just work, acknowledging Him, and loving everyone actively.

                  I don’t think God lets us go easily. Pretty darn sure about that. πŸ™‚

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                  • auscitizenmom says:

                    I am absolutely certain you are right about that.

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                  • lovely says:

                    I don’t think God lets us go easily, he is a hound always on our trail. That said I got the very uncomfortable feeling from this person in particular that I could now go about my days and do whatever I wanted to do because I was saved, there was no need to worry about my salvation or participate in God’s work or grace. ……Sure I should want to … if I was really saved …. but if not then …meh… the prayer saved me … a few simple words, void of any active participation, acceptance or action upon that grace.

                    Yet Paul tells us in the bible β€œWherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.”__Philipians 2:12

                    Seems to me that Paul thought Christ demanded more than a prayer.

                    That does’t mean I don’t think that salvation is a gift, I do believe it is a gift but I also believe Christ’s crucifixion as it is without time and resurrection did not buy us the the right to continue to willfully pounding him onto the cross because we are “saved”. And I’m not suggesting that is what you are saying Wooly but it is in my mind the danger that this philosophy presents. God accepts our weaknesses and sins, he heals and he loves despite who we are or what state of life we are in.

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        • czarowniczy says:

          OK, too obvious but I had to bite….did they have a seperate bin for colored broccoli?

          In Germany we had ‘white asparagus’ in the spring. It was row planted and the farmers would pile dirt around the shoots to keep them from greening up. It was eaten with ham, I,loved it. Can’t get asparagus to grow down here.

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          • lovely says:

            Yes they had broccoli but it was only labeled “broccoli”. It was really cauliflower. I told the older gentleman working in produce about it and he sighed. I imagine he had some cognitively challenged wards in the produce department.

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            • czarowniczy says:

              Yeah, really same family, jes diffrin’ daddy. Then agin’, I have to frequently explain to the cashier in Wally World what the veggies I’m buying are…had to explain what a smooth-skinned avocado was just a week or so. Can understand better about Napa cabbage but avocado? Maybe they jes don’t be recognizin’ ’em in their wild state.

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          • stella says:

            My friend from Spain loved white asparagus too. You can buy it here.

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          • ImpeachEmAll says:

            “Can’t get asparagus to grow down here.”

            Hope this helps…

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            • ImpeachEmAll says:

              Then, there’s this version…

              This is a quote from The Southern Living Gardening Book: “Plants take 2 to 3 years to come into full production but then furnish spears every spring for 10 to 15 years or more. They take up considerable space but do so in a grand manner. Use along a sunny fence or as a background for flowers or vegetables. (You don’t have to plant every plant all together. You can scatter them around through ornamental beds and just walk around to harvest.) Set out seedlings or roots (not wilted, no smaller than an adult’s hand) in fall or winter. Make trenches 1 ft. wide and 8-10 inches deep. Space them 4 to 6 ft. apart. Heap loose soil enriched with composted manure at bottom of trenches and soak well. Space plants 1 ft. apart, setting them so that tops are 6 to 8 inches below the top of the trench. Spread roots out evenly. Cover with 2 inches of soil and water again.
              As young plants grow, gradually fill in trench, taking care not to cover growing tips. Soak deeply whenever soil begins to dry out at root depth. Do not harvest spears the first year. The object is to build a big root mass. When plants turn brown in late fall or early winter, cut stems to the ground.
              The following spring you can cut your first spears; cut only for 4 to 6 weeks or until appearance of thin spears indicates that roots are nearing exhaustion. Then permit plants to grow. Cultivate, feed, and irrigate heavily. The third year you should be able to cut spears for 8 to 10 weeks. Spears are ready to cut when they are 5-8 inches long. Thrust knife down at 45 degree angle to soil; flat cutting may injure adjacent developing spears.”
              “Jersey Knight is the best variety for Southern Growers. Male hybrids typically produce more and larger spears, because they don’t put energy into seed production. Such selections still produce an occasional female plant.”

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        • joshua says:

          It forgot to check the Broccoli White Privilege at the door….

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    • ImpeachEmAll says:

      πŸ˜‰

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    • nyetneetot says:

      Oh for the love of Zurich, it was a joke.

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  3. Wooly Covfefe says:

    LOL, Mary. Agreed, awesome photo, Stella.

    About to listen to Impeach’s spin.

    Breaking: Fatal Courtroom Act Ruins Michael β€˜Hockey Stick’ Mann

    Excellent news. Like Snoopy’s Happy-Dance news. Like Arafat Is Dead news.

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    • Col.(R) Ken says:

      This educator ^^^^^^^ has brought millions of $$$$$$ to Penn State. This is twice within the last five years Mann has been beaten by his own hockey stick.

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    • stella says:

      I look forward to seeing the outcome of the Mark Steyn trial. The sad thing about this is that the acolytes in the church of global warming/climate change will continue to believe, even though one of their religious leaders has been exposed as a charlatan.

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      • Menagerie says:

        The very same people who scoff at those who are religious too.

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      • czarowniczy says:

        Whenever I have problems reconciling common sense with personal convictions I just say to myself three times in rapid succession: “Jim Jones…Jim Jones…Jim Jones” and things are a bit more clear. Lemmings do gave their purpose.

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  4. Wooly Covfefe says:

    Johnny Cash covering others. What a humble man he was.

    His Christian self also poked Trent Reznor’s satanist self in the eye with this cover.

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  5. Menagerie says:

    I love both photos today Stella. I think I would love to live next to the ocean, but I know my soul would long for the deep woods, and the mystery of the forest.

    I just need to win a lottery so I can go on a home buying spree.

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  6. nyetneetot says:

    Mornin’ stella! (Smiter of those that ought to be smote) 😎 🍸 (Long Island Iced Tea)
    Mornin’ WeeWeed! (Master Mixologist Extrodinare) 😎 🍸 (Old Fashioned)
    Mornin’ Menagerie! 😎 |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| (Jack Daniels – Single Barrel )
    Mornin’ Ad rem! (Queen Felis catus) 🐱 🍸 (Flaming Lamborghini)
    Mornin’ Sharon! 😎 🍸 🍸 (earthquake)
    Mornin’ ytz4mee! 😎 🍸 (cosmopolitan)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (white wine and perrier)
    Mornin’ partyzantski! πŸ™‚ |_| (Tom Collins)
    Mornin’ texan59! πŸ™‚ |_| (Black & Tan)
    Mornin’ ZurichMike! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (fuzzy navel)
    Mornin’ Col.(R) Ken! (hand salute) πŸ™‚ |_| (Boilermaker)
    Mornin’ Czarina! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Lynchburg Lemonade)
    Mornin’ czarowniczy! πŸ™‚ |_| (Wild Turkey Rare Breed)
    Mornin’ letjusticeprevail2014! πŸ™‚ |_| (Irish Car Bomb)
    Mornin’ Patriot1783-ctdar! (aka “ctdar”) πŸ™‚ 🍸 (grasshopper)
    Mornin’ tessa50! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (flaming volcano)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (sidecar)
    Mornin’ varsityward! πŸ™‚ |_| (Godfather)
    Mornin’ MaryfromMarin! πŸ˜€ |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| (Mortlach)
    Mornin’ Wooly Covfefe! (aka “Wooly Phlox” aka “taqiyyologist”) πŸ™‚ |_| (Roy Rogers)
    Mornin’ Howie! (aka “doodahdaze”) πŸ™‚ |_| (Classic Daiquiri)
    Mornin’ TwoLaine! πŸ™‚ |_| (Gin & Tonic)
    Mornin’ Sha! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Lemon Drop)
    Mornin’ BigMamaTEA! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Harvey Wallbanger)
    Mornin’ cetera5! (aka “Cetera”) πŸ™‚ |_| (Blackberry wine)
    Mornin’ The Tundra PA! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Baileys Irish Cream on the rocks)
    Mornin’ lovely! πŸ™‚ |_| (Backdraft)
    Mornin’ michellc! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Salty dog)
    Mornin’ auscitizenmom! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Kiss on the Lips)
    Mornin’ Margaret-Ann! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (White Russian)
    Mornin’ Auntie Lib! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Tom and Jerry)
    Mornin’ holly100! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Jack & Coke)
    Mornin’ Pam! πŸ™‚ (Not even water)
    Mornin’ Ms.Tee! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Mojito)
    Mornin’ koolkosherkitchen! πŸ™‚ 🍸 🍸 (Cuba Libre)
    Mornin’ ImpeachEmAll πŸ™‚ |_| (Flaming Dr. Pepper)
    Mornin’ Monroe! πŸ™‚ |_| (Stinger)
    Mornin’ Les! πŸ™‚ |_| (Rusty Nail)
    Mornin’ shiloh1973! πŸ™‚ |_| (Jack Daniels)
    Mornin’ TexasRanger! πŸ™‚ |_| (Whiskey Smash)
    Mornin’ Ziiggii! πŸ™‚ |_| (B52)
    Mornin’ oldiadguy! πŸ™‚ |_| (Rum & Coke)
    Mornin’ smiley! (“stuck in spambucket”) πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Spanish coffee)
    Mornin’ derk! (β€œStellars”) πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Kamikaze)
    Mornin’ Jacqueline Taylor Robson πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Shirley Temple)
    Mornin’ facebkwallflower! πŸ™‚ |_| (Night Train Express)
    Mornin’ Ms. Cindy! (aka “Ms Cynlynn” aka “ms cynlynn”) πŸ™‚ 🍸 (1970 ducru beaucaillou)
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    Mornin’ amwick! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Blue motorcycle)
    Mornin’ hocuspocus13! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (1970 Chateau Latour)
    Mornin’ Sloth1963! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (1971 Moulin Touchais)
    Mornin’ MTeresa! (Ex-lurker) πŸ™‚ |_| (Albanian Raki Moskat)
    Mornin’ Rhea Salacia Volans! πŸ™‚ |_| (Hot Buttered Rum)
    Mornin’ joshua! πŸ™‚ |_| (Mudslide)
    Mornin’ John Denney! πŸ™‚ |_| (RumChata)
    Mornin’ litenmaus! πŸ™‚ |_| (Stolichnaya elit, no ice)
    Mornin’ kinthenorthwest! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (A Lonely Island Lost in the Middle of a Foggy Sea)
    Mornin’ TwoLaine! πŸ™‚ |_| (Smoking Bishop)
    Mornin’ patternpuzzler! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Old Lady)
    Mornin’ SenatssekretΓ€r FREISTAAT DANZIG! πŸ™‚ |_| (Red Russian)
    Mornin’ G-d&Country! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Blind Russian)
    Mornin’ whiners and complainers! πŸ˜› (No drink for you!)
    Mornin’ to people posting that I missed. 😳
    Mornin’ to all you lurkers! πŸ˜•

    Also just in case someday; mornin’ to Elvis Chupacabra, F.D.R. in Hell and sundance! :mrgreen:

    Breakfast!

    NEW and IMPROVED breakfast with extra bacon for ZurichMike!

    Doughnuts and coffee!

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  7. joshua says:

    “…..just singin in the gravy. just singin in the gravy…as I slurp down the bisquits….my heart is happy again….just singin in the gravy”……well, it’s a mean meme….

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  8. WeeWeed says:

    Mornin’ kids! And the memes continue……

    Liked by 7 people

  9. stella says:

    Local grocery delivery service (via Meijer) will now deliver alcoholic beverages in Michigan, beginning July 11.

    http://www.hollandsentinel.com/news/20170711/meijer-and-shipt-to-now-deliver-alcohol

    Liked by 3 people

  10. Wooly Covfefe says:

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/10/us/avalanche-of-hate-daily-stormer-lawsuit/index.html

    I wonder if CNN realizes, in this emotional-word-laden, bemoaning piece, that they themselves did this to George Zimmerman and his family. That they did this to Darren Wilson and every white person in Ferguson, MO. To small-town bakeries and pizzerias. To Sarah Palin and her whole family. To every conservative or Christian in the last 10 years who dared to speak.

    CNN. R.I.P. The lack of self-awareness in this piece is astounding.

    OMG Bad Words! Hurting words! SJWs always project.

    Liked by 1 person

    • Wooly Covfefe says:

      The best emotional-word was when they said this chick’s house is “nestled” next to a lake.

      Aww. 😦 Nestled.

      Like

    • auscitizenmom says:

      What really gets me is how many neo-nazi types are really in the U.S.? It is the left who anti-Jewish. They talk out of both sides of their mouths about them.That is where the hate really comes from.

      Liked by 3 people

      • czarowniczy says:

        The antisemites on the Left yell and scream about the antisemites on the far-Right to keep the attention off of their anti-Semitic agenda. Soros, Schumer, Obama, Sharpton, thru ain’t Right and when’s the last time you saw any of them at a B’nai B’rith meeting?

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    • Wooly Covfefe says:

      In fact, upon re-reading this article, this is the best example I’ve yet seen of SJWs Always Project. It’s stunning in it’s unwitting portrayal of themselves and their followers.

      Liked by 1 person

      • auscitizenmom says:

        Yes. Exactly.

        Liked by 1 person

      • Wooly Covfefe says:

        Literally every line in the article.

        Now, she was in fear of almost anyone she met. Her old way of life had been washed away. She was now in an America full of hate. It was an America where racism and bigotry have powerful online platforms.

        Gersh learned that one blog post could lead to an anonymous online assault by a group of hateful people hell bent on destroying her life. All it took was a few keystrokes, amplified by a social media megaphone, to send the deluge of repulsive messages her way and heighten tensions in this quaint ski resort town.

        Yeah, ask pizzeria owners or cake-bakers about “one blog post” or “one answer to a hypothetical question in a hit-piece interview”. Mallory Simon and Sara Sidner, CNN, are both shameless wenches. Journalism is dead. Long Live Reporting.

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  11. lovely says:

    CNN is finally covering the Marine hat incident.

    Liked by 1 person

  12. ImpeachEmAll says:

    Liked by 3 people

  13. ImpeachEmAll says:

    socialists being socialists…

    Their love of islam…

    Liked by 1 person

  14. ImpeachEmAll says:

    Don’t you just love a free-one?

    Get a Free Slurpee at 7-Eleven on 7/11
    (11:00am to 7:00pm πŸ˜‰

    https://www.7-eleven.com/slurpee

    Like

  15. ImpeachEmAll says:

    MSM and DNC calling Trump Jr kettle black.
    They need to look at the color of their kettle. πŸ˜‰

    Liked by 2 people

    • jeans2nd says:

      An entire file is sitting on a thumb drive here with links to obvious collusion involving Clinton and Obama, just found from the last couple three days. They think we do not know (sigh)

      Liked by 1 person

  16. Sharon says:

    Article from Investors Business Daily about Comey/Mueller mess.Maybe if they’re choosing to weigh in, in such a public and blunt manner, maybe something is moving with seriousness. Who knows.

    http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/mystery-solved-now-we-know-why-comey-did-nothing-about-hillary/

    I got the link via Thomas Lifson’s intro to it this morning:

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/07/ibd_throws_down_the_gauntlet_on_comey_and_mueller.html

    Liked by 7 people

    • stella says:

      Hi Sharon! Nice to see you.

      Liked by 5 people

    • lovely says:

      So far President Trump’s tweets have been close to spot on. I think part of the hard hard push to bring Trump down before and after the election is that 95% of the perpetual politicians and those people appointed by them are all entangled in the same mess of corruption if one falls they all fall.

      I mean what happened to Justice Roberts?

      And as Stella said it is always nice to see you Stella.

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      • Sharon says:

        “….95% of the perpetual politicians and those people appointed by them are all entangled in the same mess of corruption….”

        Yes. Their survival instincts (personal and professional) are being required to perform at a level they have probably never needed. Their collaboration with their “political opposition” has enabled them to pretty much skate. Mr. Trump, as their now-primary opposition, is removing the effective use of collaboration from the equation.

        ….it’s nice to be seen! πŸ™‚

        Resources and strength are still very much day to day – every one’s a new adventure requiring this calibration or that. And that’s ok. Perfectly fine. Just is what it is.

        I’m down to four “must” meds a day from eleven or twelve so moving in the right direction. My oncologist is retiring and I have my last appointment with her today, then being moved to a new one since they watch very closely for the first three years, then a different level of watchfulness on to five years. Triple negative breast cancer has a habit of re-emerging within three years. 23% of those initially diagnosed don’t make it to five years even after successful treatment of initial presentation. Five year survivals of other breast cancers past are about 95%. That’s ok, too.

        I have always known it but am now experiencing it: it’s vital for contentment that I come to terms with the reality of physical death, regardless of its proximity. Once that basic thing has been arrived at, the day-to-day details become less pressing in terms of how much attention to give them. Just is what it is….and that’s not despair at all. It’s reality. And one less thing to have to worry abut intensively.

        I’ve learned so many things that I would never have otherwise learned, so it’s all good. It makes me tired to have to THINK so much about details! ….what did I come to the garage for?…..should I be in bed now?…….the milk’s gone bad again, oh, crap…… clear thinking is not a habit these days!!! Did I wash clothes? If so, did I put them in the drier? I’ve been “getting ready” for my drive up north for three days! Just to be sure I don’t forget anything….things I really need. One bunch goes IN the car. The last bunch goes ON the couch to be picked up just before I walk out the door.

        Short term concentration requires deliberate effort.

        Thanks for listening.

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        • lovely says:

          Sharon you are in my daily prayers. I humbled by your peace. I hope you beat the bad odds and are part of the good odds. Concentration being needed for small tasks can be draining but as you said it is what it is. <<< That is one of my favorite sayings as it really encompasses everything. Change what we can and rearrange our life to accommodate the rest of the journey that isn't what we would choose.

          I don't know if you've read this whole thread or not but my husband committed suicide about 10 years ago. Learning to live with what is, is the beginning of peace.

          Knowing that in the scrambled up world there is God is a demand of the acceptance of peace amongst the chaos.

          That doesn't mean we don't have moments of anger, frustration, not understanding, deal making and the rest but in the end we accept because to fight against what is, is pointless.

          When I was a young teenager I read a Readers Digest story about a boy who would not live past his teen years. He had a terminal illness that was diagnosed when he was just a baby.

          After a particular rough spell with the boys illness his father walked out onto the porch and found him crying, he said "Son I know it is a hard thing to accept" as the dad thought he was crying about his short life, the boy about 14 at the time said "No dad, I'm not crying about my life, I’m living, I’m crying about how much everyone else is missing, just look at that sky dad, just look at it!”

          To this day that boy is a witness to me as the way I should try to live every day of my life.

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          • Sharon says:

            Yes, Lovely – I saw your earlier notes re your husband’s death. Because I attempted suicide about 35 years ago, I “understand” the thinking that preceded mine and am capable of generalizing that thinking as though I understand the thinking of others. And then I remember that I don’t, any more than I always understand the thinking of my neighbors, or my brother, or my grandson! Some of the sorrows of life are indeed the consequences of our own actions – and then there are those sorrows that results from the actions of others.

            For several weeks I’ve had this Bible verse written out on a card, laying here on my desk:

            Psalm 9:10

            “And those who know Your name will put their trust in You – for You, Lord, have NOT forsaken those who seek you.”

            May I be found seeking Him.

            Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

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            • lovely says:

              I am very very happy that your attempt was unsuccessful ❀️.

              My husband was a devout Catholic, went to mass every Sunday, often daily mass, but he wen’t to mass on for First Friday devotions for years, (I’m sorry I can’t remember if you are Catholic but it does’t really matter as to the heart of the reaching to God but the First Friday will make sense to Catholics.)

              My favorite bible verse is

              Psalm 46:10 “Be still and know that I aim God.”

              as I can easily get in my own way.

              Thank you Sharon for sharing a part of your story.

              ((((Sharon))))

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            • Col.(R) Ken says:

              Sharon, hope I answered your F-35 questions. Also, you are always in my thoughts and prayers……….

              Liked by 3 people

  17. stella says:

    Outlander fans:

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  18. stella says:

    Imprimis
    The 2016 Election and the Demise of Journalistic Standards
    May/June 2017 β€’ Volume 5/6, Number 46 β€’ Michael Goodwin

    Michael Goodwin
    The New York Post

    I knew all of this about the media mindset going into the 2016 presidential campaign. But I was still shocked at what happened. This was not naΓ―ve liberalism run amok. This was a whole new approach to politics. No one in modern times had seen anything like it. As with grief, there were several stages. In the beginning, Donald Trump’s candidacy was treated as an outlandish publicity stunt, as though he wasn’t a serious candidate and should be treated as a circus act. But television executives quickly made a surprising discovery: the more they put Trump on the air, the higher their ratings climbed. Ratings are money. So news shows started devoting hours and hours simply to pointing the cameras at Trump and letting them run.

    As his rallies grew, the coverage grew, which made for an odd dynamic. The candidate nobody in the media took seriously was attracting the most people to his events and getting the most news coverage. Newspapers got in on the game too. Trump, unlike most of his opponents, was always available to the press, and could be counted on to say something outrageous or controversial that made a headline. He made news by being a spectacle.

    Despite the mockery of journalists and late-night comics, something extraordinary was happening. Trump was dominating a campaign none of the smart money thought he could win. And then, suddenly, he was winning. Only when the crowded Republican field began to thin and Trump kept racking up primary and caucus victories did the media’s tone grow more serious…

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    • stella says:

      Interesting facts:

      The New York Times has not endorsed a Republican for president since Dwight Eisenhower in 1956, meaning it would back a dead raccoon if it had a β€œD” after its name. Think of itβ€”George McGovern over Richard Nixon? Jimmy Carter over Ronald Reagan? Walter Mondale over Reagan? Any Democrat would do. And The Washington Post, which only started making editorial endorsements in the 1970s, has never once endorsed a Republican for president.

      Liked by 4 people

    • Menagerie says:

      I missed the part where their tone grew more serious. It only seemed to grow more hysterical to me.

      Liked by 2 people

  19. czarowniczy says:

    Why are we not hearing that one of the big reasons Russia may have had an interest in diddling with the 2016 presidential election was not so much their love of Trump as their hatred of Hillary. The Russians swore that the POtuS and State (Hillary) ACTIVELY interfered with Putin’s 2012 election with assistance from the DNC. And let’s not forget those overseas elections POtuS interfered in other than Russia…Netanyahu comes immediately to mind.
    More Trump attacks, one-sided and biased and ignoring the same trash being done by the Rats they excoriate Trump for allegedly doing.

    Liked by 5 people

    • lovely says:

      We did hear it Comey said at least 3 times under sworn testimony that “Putin hates Hillary!!”

      Liked by 5 people

      • czarowniczy says:

        If Putin weren’t somewhat reformed, and the Bulgarians out of business, Hillary would have probably been found face down in a Mexican park with a pickax buried in her skull. Bit of historical karma there.

        Liked by 2 people

      • Menagerie says:

        Who gives a dang? Even most of the Dems hate her too. There is really nothing they can say about anything to do with Russia that’s going to make me care. What’s more, near as I can tell my run of the mill liberal acquaintances don’t care either. Only the media.

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  20. czarowniczy says:

    BTW, 70 days since Czarina’s accident. She’s now up and trundling about with a rollator…even got a cup holder.

    Liked by 11 people

  21. jeans2nd says:

    You all are well-acquainted with Obama and his cabal. Me, notsomuch, having been on the same side but fighting on another front.

    Having spent much of the last couple three days reading re: the past 10-15 yrs, especially Obama, it occurs that, motivation/intent aside, these people running our country are really just plain very-very stupid, and have been for a very, very long time.

    Guess we did not care much about motivation/intent. We just dealt with what is, and how to fix it.
    Ex – Re: net neutrality – there is to be a big “march” tomorrow, and GoogleAmazonenFacebook et al are supposed to join in the riotous “fun.” They are joining as they know the head FCC guy is not going to change his mind – which is a good thing – and the SJW are free to riot at will.

    Stupid ppl never learn. Get a job!

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  22. stella says:

    Seen on Facebook (via Clarice Feldman):

    Glenda:Ok..the email was sent to Don Jr 6-3-16 from a previous business assoc(a media biz from U.K.) an atty (crown atty denotes U.K. To me, not Russian)..wants to meet w oppo research ..
    Don Jr, Jared & Manafort meet with lady atty seeking meetup—they exchange niceties–the Russia-born–now U.K. Affirmed atty then proceeds into Magnitsky Act territory–Don Jr? Pshaws the lady and leaves (10 min at most meeting)
    Life goes to on. Hillary crashes on her own failures. Trump wins–but the manipulators of “real power”–Obama, Brennan, Clapper & Comey have their false witness setup acquired blackmail, in hand to use against “real change and accountability ” a Trump Presidency could bring to DC. How would their collaborators/donors expecting a Hillary status quo like that? Would the parasites at DOJ, IC, Kstreet be able to continue their control and private slush funds, with someone else in charge, say like Mike Flynn or Jeff Sessions? Who was going to employ more Mooks, Stuart Stevens, scmidtts or corrupt spies like Christopher Steele? My, God—what about our excuse of an important man, ObamA? How will he become a millionaire without being able to afford fiction writer Ben Rhodes, or Rasputin Valerie Jarret? Where were the pallets of cash for Iran coming from now?

    I would start, Mr. Mueller with : why is Russian-born UK crown attorney accompanying Obama’s Ambassador to Russia, and taking notes in a foreign relations committee meeting on June 14, 2016—6 days after DonJr walked out of setup to be used later meeting, with same paid operative? Foolish mistake–on tape–in public, associating with same operative now ready to spill the beans on GPS Fusion, et al !!!
    Also, GPS was working for !Jeb then Rubio, then Cruz before Hillary’16 were handed their Trump oppo research. It’s really a deep, dark swamp President Trump is fighting in DC….

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  23. stella says:

    President Trump going to France on Thursday. Makes me very nervous. Friday is Bastille Day. Too many crazy terrorists in France, and their President is an idiot.

    Liked by 4 people

  24. lovely says:

    I know many of us are praying for little Charlie Gard. This story reminded me of him.

    A story of beauty. Born at 7 months after their mom had been brain dead for 123 day. This means the mom was only about 3 months pregnant when their father and doctors said let’s fight for these babies!

    I love that the doctors sang and played music for the girls while they were in the womb.

    Thank you God that these little miracles were given a chance for life even through the great sorrow of their mothers death.

    http://nypost.com/video/brain-dead-woman-gives-birth-to-miracle-twins/

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  25. auscitizenmom says:

    We just got 3 inches of rain in about 45 min. It was really pouring even inside my sliding glass doors. I had to put down two thick towels to catch the water and they were completely saturated when it finally quit.

    Liked by 2 people

  26. auscitizenmom says:

    lilbirdee12’s prayer:

    Our Heavenly Father, Your children come to you tonight to ask for healing and peace throughout our country so that we may return to being One Nation Under God. Guide us to be leaders in Your Kingdom, spreading Your Love and Salvation to all. Forgive us our sins and deliver us from evil.

    Lord, we ask for a blanket of protection over all our troops and law enforcement who serve to defend and protect us. Bless our representatives with the strength and wisdom they need to achieve the path You have chosen for us.

    Please place Your Guardian Angels of Protection around Donald Trump and Mike Pence and their families as they seek to lead America back to You.

    Grant us patience, Lord, as the evil ones try to anger us and cause us to fall.
    Spread blessings over Israel and Netanyahu.

    We humbly ask that You please comfort those who are grieving and in pain.
    Thank you Father, for Your Love and the gift of Life.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen

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    • Wooly Covfefe says:

      I don’t know how this has “71 views”. I just posted it. Then again, I don’t know how imgur works yet. Got the app for my phone after work tonight.

      I took this sitting cross*-legged at the foot of the stairs. *No pun intended. πŸ™‚

      It’s funny that I rode over there while Menagerie and Lovely were talking about the Church.

      I sat right there on the sidewalk and prayed. I had a peaceful day.

      Liked by 3 people

      • Menagerie says:

        It’s a beautiful church. The bricks and facade remind me some of our church, but it has smaller towers, asymmetrical, on either side of the entrance.

        And if praying in front of the church gave you peace, I try to imagine how you would feel before the Blessed Sacrament.

        I am a person that peace does not come easy to. I have only ever experienced true, complete and utter peace at Adoration. I’m working on it though. As I age I’m mellowing out some. Or maybe just exhausting myself.

        Liked by 2 people

      • stella says:

        When was the church built? It reminds me some of the church where my daughter was married, in Detroit. Nativity was built in the 1920’s.

        Like

    • lovely says:

      Beautiful! All the churches here are pretty modern in their architecture 😐.

      Liked by 1 person

  27. jeans2nd says:

    While turning cartwheels over a piece of fiber news, it occurred that you all might enjoy this.

    Microsoft, having spent so many years going global, woke up to “the problem in its own backyard, after the 2016 presidential election shed light….” Microsoft is spending the next five years bringing fiber and wireless to rural America, including partnering with 4H, and sharing their technology with other companies that want to help, among many other things. How ’bout that?

    TEA, anyone?
    Microsoft Pushes Fast Internet for U.S. Heartland to Bridge Broadband Gap
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-11/microsoft-pushes-fast-internet-for-u-s-heartland-to-bridge-broadband-gap

    Liked by 4 people

  28. lovely says:

    It’s official The Onion has more real news than does CNN

    Like

  29. Late night spin, theme association.

    Liked by 1 person

  30. Wooly Covfefe says:

    One more. R.I.P. Chris Cornell.

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