General Discussion, Monday, December 26, 2016

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  1. Wooly Phlox says:

    The French hen at 3 is cracking me up.

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    • Wooly Phlox says:

      “Ooh la la”

      non sequitur, much?

      ๐Ÿ˜€

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    • Menagerie says:

      It is funny Wooly, and I wouldn’t have noticed except for you.

      I found this interesting and alarming article today. Unsurprising to me, but truly alarming. I’m interested in your thoughts.

      http://thefederalist.com/2016/10/10/survey-finds-american-christians-actually-heretics/

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      • Wooly Phlox says:

        Even the Pope said this yesterday, referencing some fantasy Bible that only he has read:

        โ€œThe painful experience of these brothers and sisters reminds us of that baby Jesus, who could not find shelter, was born in a stable in Bethlehem and was later brought to Egypt to escape Herodโ€™s threat.โ€

        Where, il Papa, in the Bible does it say that Baby Jesus could not find shelter?

        It doesn’t. Anywhere.

        Why does the Nativity always boil down to a Class thing with these Marxists?

        Does the Bible say that Joseph and Mary were even poor? That they were denied a room because racism or something?? It doesn’t. All the rooms were booked. Whatever Class Joseph and Mary were in, whether rich, upper middle class, poor. All the rooms were booked. They weren’t turned away because of their class, wealth, or lack thereof, or some undesired racial reason. They were turned away because All the Rooms Were Booked.

        Even the Pope’s knowledge of scripture is on par with that of Ricky Bobby in Talledega Nights.

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        • Wooly Phlox says:

          In fact, they were not even turned away. Some innkeeper said, “Yep, all the rooms in town are booked and full, but I got something for ya anyway. It’s not much, I know.”

          Must have been Joseph’s “Jew Privilege”.

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          • lovely says:

            Luke 2:7 โ€œAnd she brought forth her firstborn Son, and wrapped Him in swaddling clothes, and laid Him in a manger, because there was no room for them in the Innโ€

            Remember scripture records not that there was no room in the inn but rather no room for them in the Inn. Mary and Joseph, as were their potential hosts were practicing Jews. If Mary gave birth in the “Inn” she would have made the entire home unclean. Most scriptural scholars I know and interpretations that I have read believe that this is reason there was no room for them at the Inn.

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        • Wooly Phlox says:

          “Dear Lord Baby Jesus… laying in your little manger… watching all your Baby Einstein videos.. learning your shapes and colors….”

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        • Wooly Phlox says:

          I agree, Menagerie. It’s alarming.

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          • Menagerie says:

            It’s a lot worse than misguided social justice beliefs. When you can’t properly articulate the three Persons of the Trinity, and even what it takes to save your own soul, America, we got problems.

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            • John Denney says:

              People have a hard time explaining quantum physics and wave/particle duality.

              The Creator is more complex than His creation, so is even more difficult to explain.

              But He loves us, and that’s good enough.

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              • John Denney says:

                That didn’t come out quite right.

                But the fact that God is complex is evident in the first verse in the Bible: “In the beginning God created . . .”

                In Hebrew, “God” in this verse is plural, but the verb “created” is singular, rather like in English if someone were to say deliberately and with full knowledge, “They is”.

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              • lovely says:

                There is a story that St. Augustine was walking on the beach contemplating the mystery of the Trinity. Then he saw a boy in front of him who had dug a hole in the sand and was going out to the sea again and again and bringing some water to pour into the hole. St. Augustine asked him, โ€œWhat are you doing?โ€ โ€œIโ€™m going to pour the entire ocean into this hole.โ€ โ€œThat is impossible, the whole ocean will not fit in the hole you have madeโ€ said St. Augustine. The boy replied, โ€œAnd you cannot fit the Trinity in your tiny little brain.โ€ The story concludes by saying that the boy vanished because St. Augustine had been talking to an angel.

                That said, there are some basic concepts that even though they are a mystery they are doctrine in almost all, if not all Christ based regions and that is that the Holy Trinity is One God, three persons, each equal, all uncreated. It seems the christians in the article do not have this fundamental understanding of an almost universal teaching of the Trinity.

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              • Hello, John, Happy Holidays! Granted He is more difficult, if not impossible to explain, but we are taking about basic knowledge, not understanding. Basic recall of known facts, if you will, as opposed to the higher critical thinking skills.

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              • Menagerie says:

                Respectfully I disagree. I do not believe that is good enough at all. There are expectations that come with his love. He bridged the gap of sin with His own death through the Son on the cross, but we have a lot to do from there. Faith. Believing, Picking up the cross. Hope, charity, repentance.

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        • Wooly Phlox says:

          The Bible remains phenomenally popular, of course. Practically everyone has one in his or her home, and many families own four or five. But Briggs characterizes our love for the Bible as love for an โ€œartifact,โ€ a โ€œkeepsake,โ€ or a lucky โ€œrabbitโ€™s foot.โ€ This talisman of faith mainly stays on the shelf or mantle next to the urn filled with grandpaโ€™s ashes.

          Briggs says it was in a prison, not a church, where he encountered the most vibrant and intimate familiarity with Godโ€™s Word. Most everywhere else, his observations confirmed a recent Barna survey conducted for the American Bible Society, which found that less than half the country can name the first five books of the Old Testament, and that a similar number think John the Baptist was one of Jesusโ€™s twelve disciples.

          Why does it matter that weโ€™ve become a nation of doctrinal dunces? What harm is there in flunking Christianity 101? Well, for Christians, the answer is obvious. If we really believe what we professโ€”that the incarnation, life, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ is the single most important fact of history and eternityโ€”then weโ€™d better improve our grade. Knowing who the God we claim to worship is can no longer be a third priority if we want the world to take us seriously as his followers.

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        • Wooly Phlox says:

          Menagerie, when even the Pope himself displays a stunning lack of scriptural knowledge, it doesn’t come as a surprise that most laymen don’t know any of it, either. Sad and alarming, sure. Not shocking.

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          • Menagerie says:

            With this pope it is deeper than a lack of knowledge, and a whole mother can of worms. You can bet your bottom dollar he has the scriptural knowledge, he is rejecting it. That is deeper yet, and alarming on a whole different level.

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          • czarowniczy says:

            Problem is, when he’s speaking ex Cathedra that seeming lack,of knowledge becomes fact.

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            • Wooly Phlox says:

              If the Pope calls a tail a leg, how many legs does a cow have?

              Five?

              Nope. Still four. No matter what anyone calls a tail.

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              • Wooly Phlox says:

                ex cathedra’s rule ends where reality begins.

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              • czarowniczy says:

                I think one of his big audiences is the US Catholic population in that it’s not as wholesale accepting of Doctrinal rule as some 2nd and 3rd world members are. US ‘s lack of blind acceptance has been a thorn in the Vatican’s conservative’s side for a long time.
                Then we have the Latin/South American activist priests’ actions that tend to go against the conservative Vatican grain. I do believe the Pope identifies more with the balky US and activist Catholics and if he can’t be around to see the Church lurch more left he can at least be a major instrument of change.

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              • lovely says:

                Wooly, the Catholic Church does not believe that the pope speaks infallibly with impunity on whatever matter he chooses, the Dogma that defines ex cathedra speaks only of matters of faith. It has only been widely accepted as having ever been pronounced twice. Some Catholics believe that when the pope canonizes a saint that the proclamation of canonization is infallible but there as with most matters is debate as whether or not the act act of canonization is infallible.

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              • Menagerie says:

                That’s a bullshit example and beneath you.

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            • Wooly Phlox says:

              (No matter what anyone calls a leg, I mean.)

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            • Wooly Phlox says:

              Muslims leave their shoes at the door. Christians leave their brain.

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            • lovely says:

              Pope Benedict has not spoken ex cathedra (From the Throne of Peter), not in that he has made a pronouncement, not even sure with this guy that he has even articulated properly an ex cathedra pronouncement as the Vicar of Rome.

              I believe there are only two pronouncements that have been officially recognized by the Catholic Church as spoken ex cathedra the Immaculate Conception and the Assumption of Mary.

              The Catholic Church has many Dogmas and doctrines, the Dogmas are to be accepted by faithful Catholics as unassailable truths, divinely revealed even though the pope has not spoken from the throne of Peter. In all honesty it is a technicality which requires many hoops and rings of fire to be be threaded.

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              • lovely says:

                God grief I meant to say Pope Francis.

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              • czarowniczy says:

                Not saying he has but that as he seems to be itching to make some fundamental changes in doctrine/dogma. He looks to be trying to lurch the Church in a different direction, Obamaesque, and his…shall we say…irritation with the conservative Church bureaucracy seems to be showing.
                How long until his hope to change the Church starts him issuing Executive Orders?

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                • lovely says:

                  Pope Francis cannot do it. That is the simple answer. The Pope does not have the power of the Throne of Peter to speak on matters of faith with infallibly without the acceptance of the Universal Church (read consensus of bishops).

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                  • czarowniczy says:

                    Not saying he wiil, back to my first sentence.
                    Wasn’t that long ago the Italian faction had a death grip on the papacy and any odds that there’d ever be a non-Italian Pope were less than zero. Then add in the odds the first non-Italian Pope would be Polish…
                    He probably won’t be able to make those sea changes but Obama-like he can seed the bureaucracy with like-minded types and tilt the system to a more ’emerging world’ line of future Popes. Obama’s done that with the Federal bureaucracy, seeding it with his fellow engineers so that his work can go on long after he’s gone, I think Francis is doing that here.

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                • Menagerie says:

                  I believe he is itching to do it too, and he is pretty steamed that he can’t, but as lovely says, much as he might want to, he can only muddy the waters, he simply does not have the ability to nullify two thousand years of unbroken teachings.

                  The Church survived the Medici popes, she will survive Francis.

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            • Menagerie says:

              He has never spoken ex cathedra and if the history of the popes is an indicator, he is unlikely to.

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            • lovely says:

              You’ve said twice now in your responses to me that you didn’t say the Pope has spoken Ex Cathedra so it is this sentence that has me confused as it does seem to be what you are saying.

              Problem is, when heโ€™s speaking Ex Cathedra that seeming lack,of knowledge becomes fact.

              Pope Francis has not and is never going to speak Ex Cathedra. Pope Francis’ twisted interpretation of scripture and faith will never become an Ex Cathedra pronouncement. Now do I believe he would do away with much Church Dogma and doctrine if he had the power to do so and substitute it with his own unscriptural interpretation of Christianity and thereby throw his lambs to the wolves? You betcha!

              The two Ex Cathedra pronouncements that the Church recognizes were long standing Dogmas which the Church felt a need to define, defend and speak in finality about.

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              • czarowniczy says:

                In for one am shutting down my input here. I posited a thought only to have it blow up into a place I don’t want to go. I have very little personal interest at stake in the matter and I do not want my beliefs getting into conflict with anyone else’s, it ain’t worth it to me.
                There are supposed to be checks in place to prevent abuse of power in every organization, but that doesn’t mean movers and shakers won’t try.

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                • lovely says:

                  My apologies Czar, I didnโ€™t feel like the conversation blew up I thought we were simply exchanging viewpoints and I was trying to clarify what you were saying so that I could properly respond.

                  Anyhow I respect you and enjoy chatting with you, your beliefs are what they are and I wasnโ€™t trying to convince you of anything I was just trying to clarify the Churchโ€™s position on ex cathedra pronouncements.

                  To your point that every organization should have checks and balances I couldnโ€™t agree more.

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                  • czarowniczy says:

                    I was trying to keep it from blowing up. Politics, religion and the best barbecue sauce are topics that go ballistic quickly. Back to less sensitive topics.

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                • Menagerie says:

                  Your comment above about the Polish pope makes me smile with the memory.It was unthinkable at the time, and I do vividly remember the time, that a Polish pope would be chosen. I was quite taken with JPII from the first moments on the balcony, and like most Catholics, I only loved him more as time went on.

                  Years after his death, I learned about a Polish nun named St. Faustina and the story of the Divine Mercy Chaplet and Divine Mercy Sunday. Her revelations were not accepted by the Vatican, and her life’s work, so to speak, the diary she wrote, were little heard of outside Poland. And then came the day, out of the blue, when a Polish Pope dedicated to Divine Mercy was chosen. It’s a fascinating story, how his papacy intersected with an obscure Polish nun, and the great results that came from it.

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        • John Denney says:

          Joseph and Mary were of humble means, because:

          “And when the days for their purification according to the law of Moses were completed, they brought Him up to Jerusalem to present Him to the Lord . . . and to offer a sacrifice according to what was said in the Law of the Lord, “A PAIR OF TURTLEDOVES OR TWO YOUNG PIGEONS.” – Luke 2:22-24

          “โ€˜When the days of her purification are completed, for a son or for a daughter, she shall bring to the priest at the doorway of the tent of meeting a one year old lamb for a burnt offering and a young pigeon or a turtledove for a sin offering. . . . But if she cannot afford a lamb, then she shall take two turtledoves or two young pigeons, the one for a burnt offering and the other for a sin offering; and the priest shall make atonement for her, and she will be clean.โ€™โ€ – Leviticus 12:6-8

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        • John Denney says:

          BTW, my favorite on-line Bible site:

          http://www.blbclassic.org

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      • Hello, Menagerie! Without getting into a definition of a heretic, I will just mention that in a nationwide survey of American high school students’ knowledge of geography and history conducted about a decade ago, someone said that Paris was a capital of Columbia, someone else placed Columbia in LA, and Hitler in Middle ages. I think lack of basic knowledge is not an indicator of lack of faith, but rather widespread ignorance.

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        • lovely says:

          I also found the article interesting in that the person who wrote it is by the very definition of the word a heretic from the Catholic Church as he states that Jesus had a brother (James) whereas the Catholic Church Dogma states that Mary was perpetually a virgin.

          Not arguing the Dogma just stating a fact about the author.

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          • auscitizenmom says:

            Does the Bible state that she was always a virgin? I don’t remember ever hearing that before. And, I really can’t see why it matters.

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            • lovely says:

              The Catholic Church believes that scripture does lend itself to Mary being a perpetual virgin. One of the portions of scripture that gives credence to this belief is the response of Mary to the angel Gabriel.

              26 In the sixth month, God sent the angel Gabriel to a town in Galilee called Nazareth, 27to a virgin pledged in marriage to a man named Joseph, who was of the house of David. And the virginโ€™s name was Mary. 28The angel appeared to her and said, โ€œGreetings, you who are highly favored! The Lord is with you.โ€a

              29Mary was greatly troubled at his words and wondered what kind of greeting this might be. 30So the angel told her, โ€œDo not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God. 31Behold, you will conceive and give birth to a son, and you shall give Him the name Jesus. 32He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David, 33and He will reign over the house of Jacob forever. His kingdom will never end!โ€

              34โ€œHow can this be,โ€ Mary asked the angel, โ€œsince I am a virgin?โ€

              35The angel replied, โ€œThe Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the Holy One to be bornb will be called the Son of God. 36Look, even Elizabeth your relative has conceived a son in her old age, and she who was called barren is in her sixth month. 37For nothing will be impossible with God.โ€

              38โ€œI am the Lordโ€™s servant,โ€ Mary answered. โ€œMay it happen to me according to your word.โ€ Then the angel left her.

              The angel Gabriel told Mary that she would conceive a son not that she was pregnant with a son.

              Mary’s response was โ€œHow can this be since I am a virgin?โ€ Mary was betrothed so if she was planning a regular wedded life she would not need to ask “How can this be since I am a virgin.” Mary would have accepted that once she was married and having marital relations that she would conceive a son, it would not be a mystery to her. Instead she questions God’s angel as the announcement didn’t make sense to her as she was already a consecrated virgin.

              Some young Jewish girls were consecrated in the temple as virgins and would remain so even after marriage. This is what the Church believes of Mary. Mary’s question makes no sense outside of her being a consecrated virgin.

              Why would it be important? Entire books have been written on that subject. But a very short inefficient answer is that Mary was to remain pure in body heart mind will and soul.

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              • auscitizenmom says:

                Thanks for the explanation, but I really don’t see how her saying she is a virgin, so how can she be pregnant makes someone think she remained that way.

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                • lovely says:

                  Why would Mary question how she was going to become pregnant if she planned on having sex with Joseph once she was married?

                  How would her questioning the Angel Gabriel as to how the event of her becoming pregnant would take place since she was a virgin make any sense?

                  Mary didn’t say say that she couldn’t be pregnant because she was a virgin she questioned how she would become pregnant since she was a virgin, a very significant difference.

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                • Menagerie says:

                  In addition to what lovely said, Catholics believe Mary’s womb was the new Holy of Holies, the new Tabernacle and God would have demanded it be reverenced and respected even more than the Tabernacle in the temple. It would therefore be utterly unthinkable that she not remain a virgin.

                  Anything less than her perpetual virginity would be, in essence, a statement like “I gave birth to God incarnate. Ho hum, let me get on with the rest of my life.”

                  Mary altered history forever. She gave her yes to God’s plan for her entire life in one moment. She would never go back to being a simple Jewish wife and mother after becoming spouse of the Holy Spirit, and Mother of God.

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        • Menagerie says:

          You misunderstood me. I was not discussing lack of faith, but exactly what you state, lack of knowledge. I believe practicing your faith, developing a relationship with God requires us to do more than take Him for granted and make assumptions about what we believe about Him and His teaching, assumptions that always seem to be in our favor.

          So, upon further reflection, maybe I do see it as lack of faith. If your faith is that shallow and self centered it seems to me not to be faith at all, just self worship.

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    • Hello, Wooly! This is a collective image of the French, not a hen.

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  2. MaryfromMarin says:

    It’s still Christmas Day here…

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  3. nyetneetot says:

    On the second day of Christmas my true love gave to me……

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  4. tessa50 says:

    In Memory, adding to others already posted here.

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  5. tessa50 says:

    Last one. To me, he was just so good, his voice was something else.

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  6. ImpeachEmAll says:

    Time for another log…

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  7. ImpeachEmAll says:

    A little hot chocolate…

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  8. ImpeachEmAll says:

    Just in case Col Ken awakes before I…

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  9. WeeWeed says:

    Mornin’ y’all!

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  10. amwick says:

    Yesterday was so beautiful we went to the beach, the local state park. As I expected it was free, because they do not have people working at the toll booth. What made this trip unusual was a couple that had their giant Newfoundland on a flat bed wagon. The dog’s back legs were shot and they were rolling him all over the boardwalk. He was 14, and dog lovers will recognize that this is very unusual for such a large breed. Dh said that he must have been about 150lbs. He looked positively regal, alert, and would gently woof at people that stopped. Now that is love.

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  11. nyetneetot says:

    Morninโ€™ stella! (Smiter of those that ought to be smote) ๐Ÿ˜Ž ๐Ÿธ (Long Island Iced Tea)
    Morninโ€™ WeeWeed! (Master Mixologist Extrodinare) ๐Ÿ˜Ž ๐Ÿธ (Old Fashioned)
    Morninโ€™ Menagerie! ๐Ÿ˜Ž |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| (Jack Daniels – Single Barrel )
    Mornin’ Ad rem! (Queen Felis catus) ๐Ÿฑ ๐Ÿธ (Flaming Lamborghini)
    Mornin’ Sharon! ๐Ÿ˜Ž ๐Ÿธ (earthquake)
    Mornin’ ytz4mee! ๐Ÿ˜Ž ๐Ÿธ (cosmopolitan)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿธ (white wine and perrier)
    Mornin’ partyzantski! ๐Ÿ™‚ |_| (Tom Collins)
    Mornin’ texan59! ๐Ÿ™‚ |_| (Black & Tan)
    Mornin’ ZurichMike! ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿธ (fuzzy navel)
    Morninโ€™ Col.(R) Ken! (hand salute) ๐Ÿ™‚ |_| (Boilermaker)
    Mornin’ Czarina! ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿธ (Lynchburg Lemonade)
    Mornin’ czarowniczy! ๐Ÿ™‚ |_| (Wild Turkey Rare Breed)
    Mornin’ letjusticeprevail2014! ๐Ÿ™‚ |_| (Irish Car Bomb)
    Mornin’ Patriot1783-ctdar! (aka “ctdar”) ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿธ (grasshopper)
    Mornin’ tessa50! ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿธ (flaming volcano)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿธ (sidecar)
    Mornin’ varsityward! ๐Ÿ™‚ |_| (Godfather)
    Morninโ€™ MaryfromMarin! ๐Ÿ˜€ |_| (Mortlach)
    Mornin’ Wooly Phlox! (aka “taqiyyologist”) ๐Ÿ™‚ |_| (Roy Rogers)
    Morninโ€™ Howie! ๐Ÿ™‚ |_| (Classic Daiquiri)
    Morninโ€™ TwoLaine! ๐Ÿ™‚ |_| (Gin & Tonic)
    Morninโ€™ Sha! ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿธ (Lemon Drop)
    Mornin’ BigMamaTEA! ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿธ (Harvey Wallbanger)
    Mornin’ cetera5! (aka “Cetera”) ๐Ÿ™‚ |_| (Blackberry wine)
    Morninโ€™ The Tundra PA! ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿธ (Baileys Irish Cream on the rocks)
    Morninโ€™ lovely! ๐Ÿ™‚ |_| (Backdraft)
    Morninโ€™ michellc! ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿธ (Salty dog)
    Morninโ€™ auscitizenmom! ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿธ (Kiss on the Lips)
    Mornin’ Margaret-Ann! ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿธ (White Russian)
    Mornin’ Auntie Lib! ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿธ (Tom and Jerry)
    Mornin’ holly100! ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿธ (Jack & Coke)
    Mornin’ Pam! ๐Ÿ™‚ (Not even water)
    Mornin’ Ms.Tee! ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿธ (Mojito)
    Mornin’ koolkosherkitchen! ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿธ ๐Ÿธ (Cuba Libre)
    Mornin’ ImpeachEmAll ๐Ÿ™‚ |_| (Flaming Dr. Pepper)
    Mornin’ Monroe! ๐Ÿ™‚ |_| (Stinger)
    Mornin’ Les! ๐Ÿ™‚ |_| (Rusty Nail)
    Mornin’ shiloh1973! ๐Ÿ™‚ |_| (Jack Daniels)
    Mornin’ TexasRanger! ๐Ÿ™‚ |_| (Whiskey Smash)
    Mornin’ Ziiggii! ๐Ÿ™‚ |_| (B52)
    Mornin’ oldiadguy! ๐Ÿ™‚ |_| (Rum & Coke)
    Mornin’ smiley! (“stuck in spambucket”) ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿธ (Spanish coffee)
    Mornin’ derk! (โ€œStellarsโ€) ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿธ (Kamikaze)
    Mornin’ Jacqueline Taylor Robson ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿธ (Shirley Temple)
    Mornin’ facebkwallflower! ๐Ÿ™‚ |_| (Night Train Express)
    Mornin’ Ms. Cindy! (aka “Ms Cynlynn” aka “ms cynlynn”) ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿธ (1970 ducru beaucaillou)
    Mornin’ sandandsea2015! ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿธ (1961 Chรขteau Montrose)
    Mornin’ amwick! ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿธ (Blue motorcycle)
    Mornin’ hocuspocus13! ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿธ (1970 Chateau Latour)
    Mornin’ Sloth1963! ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿธ (1971 Moulin Touchais)
    Mornin’ MTeresa! (Ex-lurker) ๐Ÿ™‚ |_| (Albanian Raki Moskat)
    Mornin’ Rhea Salacia Volans! ๐Ÿ™‚ |_| (Hot Buttered Rum)
    Mornin’ joshua! ๐Ÿ™‚ |_| (Mudslide)
    Mornin’ John Denney ๐Ÿ™‚ |_| (RumChata)
    Mornin’ whiners and complainers! ๐Ÿ˜› (No drink for you!)
    Mornin’ to people posting that I missed. ๐Ÿ˜ณ
    Mornin’ to all you lurkers! ๐Ÿ˜•

    Also just in case someday; mornin’ to Elvis Chupacabra, F.D.R. in Hell and sundance! :mrgreen:

    Breakfast!

    NEW and IMPROVED breakfast with extra bacon for ZurichMike!

    Christmas pastries with coffee

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  12. lovely says:

    Warning. We have a peeping Tom in the neighborhood.

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  13. derk says:

    Good Morning Stella, all,
    Great Christmas here, as I am sure you had. I’ve made “Big Breakfast” 4 times so far, my boys will eat breakfast for lunch and dinner everyday if they had a cook. It is our traditional Christmas Eve dinner, and my oldest son has already called it as his wedding feast.

    But, sad news to end the day. One of my all time favorite tunes.

    Have a great day y’all.

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    • amwick says:

      Very sad news…
      Dh and I go out once in a while and have breakfast for dinner.

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    • lovely says:

      Glad to hear you had a beautiful Christmas. So sad to sit down after a beautiful day and see that George had passed. Such a tragic soul.

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      • derk says:

        Truly was a great day. Kids split time between here and the ex, I get Christmas Eve and she Christmas Day.
        Kids didn’t get back here till 5:00. but in that time we: sunset walk on Sundial Bridge, froze but gorgeous, tried for sushi, closed, decided on another Big breakfast for dinner, cooking while kids played Cribbage, flew mini drones, Grinch on the TV, jigsaw puzzle worked on, ate, Grinch switched to Cowboy Christmas music, and was in middle of a game of Yahtzee when…
        Ouch. Definite damper.

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        • lovely says:

          Sounds similar to here. My girls came in Christmas eve morning, we were supposed to go out for dinner but they changed their mind on the 23rd so we had dinner at home.

          We played Parcheesi (I won ๐Ÿ˜Š) A few games of Yahtzee and then opened presents. Sat around and talked.

          Went to bed.

          Got up in the morning and went to my folks house.

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          • derk says:

            A Lovely day indeed.

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          • auscitizenmom says:

            I woke up in a bad mood Christmas morning, dreading going to lunch with a friend. She wanted me to go with her and join up with a couple of other friends. We were to be there at 11:30. I don’t eat that early. One of the friends is a liberal who refused to sit down with her before the election if she didn’t remove her Trump button. I wasn’t sure I could keep my mouth shut. And, it was going to be a long drive.

            My little doggie, who does not pee or poop in the house, peed and pooped in the house just before I got up. {sigh} Horrible smell. Had to clean it up.

            Then, my friend called and said one of the people wasn’t coming. Fine. But, she wasn’t sure the other one was going to be there. I said I wasn’t going to drive all that way if we didn’t know. She called, they were coming. It was a half hour to her house to pick her up. Then it was a 45 min drive to the restaurant…………that wasn’t open. Nobody had checked. We finally settled on the one other place that was open.

            We arrived, got settled, the others FINALLY showed up, late. The turkey dinner was very good and things were going along swimmingly, except we had trouble finding our waitress. We asked, and asked, and finally the lady running the place came over to help us and we were told our waitress, who was very sweet and that we liked very much, had walked out on them. She was concerned because this waitress had worked there for several years and was very good. She said the owner would never allow her to come back. Too bad. We finally got our bills and paid. Then, drove the 45 min back to my friend’s and then the 30 min back to my place.

            Weird day. But, it actually went better than I had expected it would. ๐Ÿ™‚

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            • joshua says:

              That is known as a Humbug day…..your little doggie sensed Humbug day, but unable to speak about it…he merely “deposited” his opinion on Humbug for you…..and frankly, I would rather clean up doggie pee and poop than have to break bread or even speak with a die hard Liberal…..Jesus was born to bring peace to us, just not always tranquility…that is up to us along. Shalom and Merry Day After Humbug day…..lol

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              • auscitizenmom says:

                This is a die hard liberal female who said she flew helicopters in Viet Nam. She would have been 16 years old. O_o Fortunately, nothing about the election came up.

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                • joshua says:

                  ask her why we lost the Vietnam war and did she help evacuate Saigon. Then ask her if she met Robin Williams while she was in country. Then asked if she played The Flight of the Valkyries during helicopter attack flights, or if she and her group sang the Mickey Mouse Song….liberals are so not familiar with history…..but maybe they watch Hollywood History.

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            • lovely says:

              Well at least the meal was good and you didn’t have to hear liberal’s yammering garbage ๐Ÿ™‚

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        • auscitizenmom says:

          But, up til then, it sounds delightful. ๐Ÿ™‚ Merry Christmas, Derk.

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  14. amwick says:

    Back from a post Christmas mission. A sort of upscale department store has 50% off Christmas decorations, so I ran out and bought a Waterford ornament. Perhaps I mentioned a friend who has an entire tree of these amazing crystal decorations, she is 80 and has collected them for a long long time… She bought one for me because I had admired hers, and with that my collection was born. Four years back I found one at a thrift store,, box and all.

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  15. stella says:

    Good stuff.

    Sorry, But Our Fight Against Liberal Fascism Has Only Just Begun

    http://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2016/12/26/sorry-but-our-fight-against-liberal-fascism-has-only-just-begun-n2263156

    I wish I could tell you that, having dodged the naggy bullet that was Felonia Milhous von Pantsuit, we can now spend the next four years being left alone. But thatโ€™s not in the cards. Liberals wonโ€™t โ€“ because they canโ€™t โ€“ pause to reflect on how they should stop being such insufferable jerks and live with us normals in peace and mutual respect. Instead, they are doubling down on their gambit for unrestrained power over every aspect of our lives, fueled by a hatred for Donald Trump that is, in reality, a hatred for us.

    Remember, they really do hate us. Just ask them.

    Remember: Liberals are fearful because they know the kind of oppression they absolutely intended to inflict upon us if they had won, and they worry that we will do to them what they wanted to do to us. Well, I say letโ€™s make their fears come true by demolishing their cultural edifice of hate and tyranny. Let them rule over the smoldering ruins of their dreams of power.

    Look, none of us want to spend our lives in permanent battle mode, but thereโ€™s no time out for the foreseeable future. We donโ€™t have a choice. Our enemies โ€“ and understand that progressives are our enemies, not just opponents of good will who merely disagree with us โ€“ will not give up. They canโ€™t give up, because they are so invested in liberal fascism and in controlling us that they have nothing else, leaving them no option but perpetual cultural and political war. We would rather life get back to normal, but there is no โ€œnormal,โ€ not anymore.

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    • Wooly Phlox says:

      Remember what Limbaugh said, often, years ago.

      When they aren’t in power, they come out of the woodwork, and get crazier than when they are in power.

      Zombie has been pretty much out of her best line of work for the last 8 years.

      If I could buy stock or invest in Zombie, Inc. futures right now, I would, heavily.

      CGNU graduates on January 20, 2017. Unleashed. Unchecked. Unbalanced.

      (Crazy Go Nuts University)

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    • Menagerie says:

      Too many people don’t see the battle, and most of the ones who do see it miss the mark because they see it as a secular cultural battle. At its root it is not secular at all. It is simply good versus evil, and because people refuse to see that they may lose.

      I’m no soldier, but it seems to me the first step in winning a battle ought to be knowing exactly who and what the enemy is. Most of us don’t.

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      • Wooly Phlox says:

        Your posted link regards ignorance of Christian (and Jewish) scripture, and orthodoxy.

        We have the same ignorance regarding the scriptures and orthodoxy of Islam.

        That’s a bad, bad recipe, being ignorant of both.

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        • The Tundra PA says:

          True. Waaaaaay too many people believe the “religion of peace” horse dung while refusing to see the mountains of evidence to the opposite which is right before their eyes.

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        • joshua says:

          Christian and Jewish cultures are not stuck in the 4th century and have progressed with the world of technology and transportation into civil acceptance…unlike the Islamics from places that were not heavily influenced by the West.

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      • Wooly Phlox says:

        I’m no soldier, either.

        Two years ago, I encountered a big sign on the cork bulletin board at one of our restaurants. Haloed-guru guy on it, advertising local Mindfulness Meditation (formerly known as T.M.). Knowing that my bosses and their parents are all Catholic, in name at least, I enquired to the lady working the counter as to why they would allow this to be posted in their restaurant.

        Unbeknownst to me, the lady who actually pinned it up was in front of me in line.

        She looked at me as she walked out the door and before she got into her luxury ride, eyes very wide, and said “Thouuuuusands of years… YOU don’t stand a chance.”

        If I were a soldier I would have said, “Ma’am, on this we agree. Evil and deception have indeed been around for thousands of years. Have a wonderful day.”

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      • nyetneetot says:

        The argument could be made that the seven deadly sins are being used against mankind to gain personal wealth and influence by a few that we call “elites”.

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        • amwick says:

          Sometimes those elites are also know as evil capitalists… hmmmm…

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          • “Sometimes those elites are also know as evil capitalistsโ€ฆ hmmmmโ€ฆ”

            The “evil capitalist” comment just reeks of liberalism, like the hashtag that loons on Twitter periodically make trend while posting #DownWithCapitialism from their iPhones. So I”m gonna need more information about elites being evil capitalists before i”ll buy it.

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      • Wooly Phlox says:

        So often, folks forget Paul’s words:

        Eph 6:12 (KJV) For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

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      • John Denney says:

        And even our “enemies” oftentimes don’t. Unless they are utterly committed to evil (Not “Thy will be done, but My will be done; nothing is more important than What I Want!), they are simply deceived by our true Enemy, who is the master of deceit and confusion. They merit our compassion.

        ” In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;” – 2 Tim 2:25

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    • nyetneetot says:

      “We would rather life get back to normal, but there is no โ€œnormal,โ€ not anymore. “

      That is perception only. There is no “normal”, and that is the only reliability there is.

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  16. shiloh1973 says:

    Sorry for the following rant. I pay property tax so the county can hire a nimrod to plow snow and berm in my driveway and burry my mailbox. I pay income tax to the Feds so their post office will not deliver my mail because my mailbox is covered with snow. My tax dollars at work.

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  17. Wooly Phlox says:

    Menagerie, did you read the link I posted for you yesterday?

    It’s embedded in Ace’s Sunday Morning Book Thread, called “Inventing Jesus”, and it’s fascinating.

    http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=367520

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  18. Wooly Phlox says:

    I’m in the spam dungeon, one for Menagerie.

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  19. joshua says:

    Hey Liberals……”Tora! Tora! Tora!”….we are coming for YOU…..MAGA

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  20. Wooly Phlox says:

    “You are in an open field west of a big white house…:”

    That’s a video game intro. And we LIKED it.

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  21. Good afternoon, Stella and all the Beautiful People! I hope everybody is enjoying the holidays!

    Liked by 6 people

  22. Wooly Phlox says:

    I can’t believe I forgot about Klezmer.

    Oh, man. E.M.S. gonna find me, O.D.ed on Klezmer.

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  23. stella says:

    The Spice House – the company recommended as a replacement for Penzey’s – now has a YouTube channel:

    https://www.youtube.com/user/chicagospiceboss

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    • Wooly Phlox says:

      Russia just became a Christian nation, hated by the Western Left.

      Azimov couldn’t have wrote that.

      It’s not likely that anyone with a sound mind would predict that.

      Or that Russia’s Red Army Choir would, in our era, be singing “God Bless America”, and with Feeling. And then that they would all die in a plane crash on Christmas, in what might be, and probably is, a terrorist attack.

      Russia is Christian. And sufficiently nationalist to gain my respect.

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  24. lovely says:

    A little bit of magic.

    Liked by 1 person

  25. oldiadguy says:

    Oh no!!!! They found proof that the Russians were behind Hillary’s loss.

    “Secret documents recently discovered in a bin behind a Kremlin-district 24-hour cabbage and tobacco store reveal for the first time the devious extent of Russian interference. These plans were decades in the making.”

    http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/blogs/tim-blair/russian-intervention-exposed/news-story/576784a3e4429d42901b65436d118021

    Gee, I wonder if Snopes will label this article as “fake news?”

    Take Care

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