General Discussion, Friday, October 28, 2016

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  1. texan59 says:

    Finally got here. And it’s payday Friday to boot! Coffee up y’all. ๐Ÿ˜†

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  2. MaryfromMarin says:

    Succinct.

    โ€œIf the American people are really so unbelievably stupid that they think lewd remarks about women are more important than avoiding nuclear war, the American people are too stupid to exist. They will deserve the mushroom clouds that will wipe them and everyone else off the face of the earth.โ€
    [Paul Craig Roberts at ZeroHedge]

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    • amwick says:

      People are bombarded by MSM. We are not stupid, just misinformed.

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      • Menagerie says:

        To not seek the truth when it is out there, to accept the lies in the cause of sloth, that is stupidity. A vast number of Americans are stupid and lazy.

        But how many are waking up? Always, there is hope.

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        • Wooly Phlox says:

          I’ve long understood the differences between three forms of intelligence: IQ, knowledge, and wisdom; and their counterparts: stupidity, ignorance, and foolishness.

          Ignorance can be cured, even in people with low IQ, provided they have wisdom, especially the wisdom to know that they are ignorant about something.

          “You can’t tell me anything about Islam or Politics, because I watch TV and listen to NPR, so just shut up. But will you fix my computer for me?” — a friend of mine, who just doesn’t get the irony of that quote, and with whom I would never argue about building codes or about fixing an engine on a Chevy truck. So I don’t talk about Islam or Politics with him, and when we talk of construction or engine repair, I listen. He knows he’s ignorant regarding computers and software and such. He doesn’t see that he might also be less knowledgeable about other things than I, and those two off-limits topics are two of those things.

          I love him anyway.

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      • michellc says:

        I don’t really think many are misinformed, they don’t even bother to get informed at any level.
        I was talking to a woman in her late 30’s and mentioned several different things to which she replied, “I did not know that, I do not watch the news.” Later during the conversation, “I’d rather remain ignorant then know about all this stuff, that’s why I don’t get involved in politics. I’m not even registered to vote.”

        I caught a clip of Hillary and Mooch campaigning together and heard Hillary say she got to see Mooch and Barry dance and the supporters cheered. That’s not misinformed people, just stupid people who unfortunately do vote.

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    • czarowniczy says:

      Hellary’s handlers have managed to,personalize the election. Roberts is right about the stupidity part, many Americans are so intellectually disengaged from the issues and occupied by the issues of self-indulgence and self-gratification that it was easy to shift the focus.
      Their focus groups led them to the change, we were seeing the MSM, particularly the entertainment portion, centering on Trumps media-created misogyny. We had a spate of ‘local’ programs over the last few weeks centered on issues like how many women are ‘sexually harassed’ (wolf whistles, unwelcome comments) by men when they’re out jogging. Then a bit about harrassment and discrimination in the workplace, hinting that every wonan ever to come in second for a promotion in the workplace did so due to disssssscrimination. They personalized the election, making about personal affronts, real and imagined. No surprise really, Rats know that most Americans dream about gourmet dining but their standard fare is procesed junk food. They may gonto a concert, opera or Broadway but

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      • czarowniczy says:

        Well that was wierd, iPad just pisted it whilst I was in mid soapbox…

        …lite beer and TV reality programs are the standard. Ain’t hard to cater to the disengaged, cheap too.
        Rats know they don’t have to convince everyone, just enough to make sure they get more voters out than the other side. They consolidated their base of professional,parasites, old and freshly imported, and pushed hard on the hot-button sexual harassment issue to raise a plurality of personally aggrieved voters. It was obvious early on what their strategy was going to be and the RINOs and Rats went with it full on. Now we’re probably once again have to live with the government they deserve.
        There’s a light on the horizon if Hellary lives to 2020 and that is the Republicans can find a candidate more palatable and less vulnerable than Trump. Maybe even Trump can do what the RINOs have failed to do for decades and develop viable conservative candidates. Or we can go with the same old same old.

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        • Menagerie says:

          I will take door number 2. My teeny tiny surviving bit of money says there is no way the Rs learn and field candidates we can authentically support.

          I base this opinion on the fact that Trump has a lot more enthusiastic support from everyone but the decision makers who are still butt hurt that Trump and the voters bypassed them while they sat on their asses and patted themselves on the back.

          I will never forget. I will never enable them.

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  3. The Tundra PA says:

    Much better written than my last drive-by:

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/264639/against-hillarys-malevolent-matriarchy-ilana-mercer

    A “strong” liberal woman is one who hammers you about your obligation to fork-out for her Trojans and her Trivora. And if birth control fails our liberated libertine, then you’re on the hook for her abortions and abortifacients. And don’t dare doubt any of the intemperate charges leveled by this prototype liberal succubus against a man, any man. To doubt her is to harm her.

    And I especially liked this:
    The very embodiment of the malevolent liberal matriarchy rising is the sainted Michelle Obama. The First Lady was lauded for an unhinged anti-Trump address to the nation’s women. In a world where Americans have been beheaded on camera, women raped en masse on Europe’s streets, and Christians exterminated in the Middle Eastโ€”the First Lady bewailed being “shaken” to her shallow core by raunchy words. “I can’t stop thinking about it,” groaned Michelle about Mr. Trump’s Access Hollywood indiscretion. It “has shaken me to my core in a way I could not have predicted.”

    The ritualistic decapitation on the altar of a Catholic priest by Muslim migrants in France: That’s something “I can’t stop thinking about.” The machine-gunning of five Macy’s shoppers and employees by a Turkish Muslim immigrant (Arcan Cetin), in my neck of the woods: That “has shaken me to my core in a way I could not have predicted.” Again, Mrs. Obama’s pitiful case against Mr. Trump has strengthened nothing but her drama-queen credentials.

    And lots of great things about Melania.

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  4. Cetera says:

    Happy Friday, team!

    How many of you are torn each day by love for your fellow man, and hate for all things human?

    I really, really dislike people. I absolutely love individuals, and want to share with them. Does that seem right/normal?

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    • Menagerie says:

      Did you step into my head? I don’t think I’ve known anyone else who felt that push-pull and described it so well. So, I guess maybe it’s normal for the two of us?

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      • Cetera says:

        I hope I’m not in your head. I wouldn’t offer much, and might gum up the works. Certainly my head is no where near clear enough most days to be worth much.

        I’m introverted by nature, and rather distrusting of strangers. I would rather avoid folk most of the time.

        Yet I do my best to try to do little things in the day to make their lives better. Dealing with someone one-on-one can be very rewarding. I like to create, too. I want to tell stories. I like to write. I think it would be fun to make movies. But then I’d have to deal with people.

        There are a great many days that I think God wasted his time with all of us, and humanity is too stupid to survive. Yet, at the supermarket the other day, there’s a lady standing with a cane next to a motorized cart. I stop and ask her if she needs help. The battery has died. She can walk good enough with the cane, but can’t carry anything, so I put her stuff in my cart and help her out. I didn’t want to do it, really, but thought she maybe needed it. I was glad to be done with it, didn’t enjoy it while I was doing it, but I did it anyway.

        Something that made me feel exceptionally guilty in Walmart a few months back. I had my earbuds in, listening to an audiobook (possibly sports talk radio, too, don’t remember exactly) and there was some commotion at the front of the line. I was annoyed, but not really paying any attention, just trying to ignore all the people around me.

        Eventually, the old guy in front of me turns around with kind of a knowing grin, like finally, we’re moving. I look up, and see a young-ish girl walking away, groceries still on the bagging turnstyle. I asked the guy what happened, and he said the girl didn’t have enough money to pay for the groceries. She kept taking items out and having them removed from the tab, but still couldn’t make it work, and eventually just gave up and walked away. He said, “too bad, too, she looks like she really needed them.”

        Dumbass. Why didn’t you do something then? But I felt horrible. She couldn’t have had more than $50 in groceries there. I bet maybe closer to $35. My wife and I are basically broke, still paying off medical bills from her surgery and my health scare that was nothing, and we have no extra money, but I’d have swiped my card for that lady and bought her groceries that day, if only I’d known. But I didn’t, because I was selfish and desperately trying to ignore everyone and pretend they weren’t there.

        I still feel guilty about that. I tried to find her in the parkinglot, but that’s a hopeless case, and it took too long for me to get out there anyway.

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        • auscitizenmom says:

          I think you have let the cat out of the bag. You are a much kinder, more caring person than you would like people to know………..or maybe than you realize. ๐Ÿ™‚

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        • Wooly Phlox says:

          I’ll echo Menagerie here, Cetera.

          Get out of my head!

          Ah, never mind. Make yourself at home!

          You’re good. Keep loving people.

          Love is a verb. A command. Not necessarily a feeling.

          When I’m in a grocery store standing in line behind a large Vibrant woman with five Shaniquas and Tray-treys ringing up two overloaded grocery carts and swiping her EBT, and then I pay cash for my valu-pak of ramen noodles and milk after a grueling day of hard work, I hold the door open for her, and ask if she needs a hand loading the cornucopia of groceries into her Escalade. “Have a wonderful day, ma’am.” ๐Ÿ™‚

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          • Menagerie says:

            I agree. Love is a verb. I became a better and happier person when I belatedly figured that out, with a lot of shoving from the Holy Spirit and my guardian angel.

            Now I can get on with treating people kinder, helping more, and stop waiting on me to be a nice person, which is not looking to good for me.

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          • lovely says:

            My spiritual guide told me once that love was a pointing of the will. Even action is not enough. We must point our will to do that action with love. And we must love, God does not ask it, he commands it, and for God love is nothing short of creation itself.

            A few examples;

            For God so loved the world, he gave his only begotten son…

            “And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.”

            “Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends.”

            โ€œA new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. 35 By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.โ€

            Our conversation came about because I told him that I desired to love someone and that was my prayer. He told me that wasn’t good enough that I needed to love that person. Not their deeds but their soul.

            It for me is probably the most difficult call of Christianity. Love him? Why I don’t even like him ๐Ÿ˜Ž

            Doing the most charitable thing with the wrong heart is of what value? I am more commanded by God to love than to do deeds. Deeds are the fruit of love or at least they should be. There was a very real movement of the soul for me when I made a conscience effort to put my spiritual guide’s words into action.

            Love him or her? Really? Feel that love as I am with them? It is indescribable to sit across from a man who is in jail for beating his wife and see in his eyes that I have brought the peace of Christ to him by allowing myself to love his soul. Why is he who he is ? I don’t know, but he is redeemable. I hate what he has done, he knows it and I know it.

            I am tough. I call it as I see it. I will call the savages of Islam barbarians as that is what they are and I will pray that God bring about a holy curse and quick or laborious death upon each and everyone of them but in that timeless moment between life in death which God alone can see I pray that there is redemption.

            I pray for all because I am in need of prayers. And that is what my beautiful spiritual guide taught me. To love makes life beautiful regardless of its horrors, love does not accept evil, love is evils greatest enemy.

            Sorry! I don’t want to sound preachy but this advice probably had the most profound and longest lasting effect on my walk with Christ.

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    • nyetneetot says:

      “I really, really dislike people. I absolutely love individuals, and want to share with them.”

      I’m unclear which category we fall into here.

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      • michellc says:

        I think I fall into both. I often joke that I’d rather stay on my hill with my goats as be with people and there is a lot of truth to that.
        Some individuals I do love, but others I’d like to send to another planet.

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      • facebkwallflower says:

        We fall into the special group: People with ONE voice.

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      • Menagerie says:

        Check with me hourly. I’ll keep you updated.

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      • Cetera says:

        You sure you want to push that particular issue right now? LOL

        I really, really dislike your avatar, nyet. When I first glance at it, I somehow always see a firefighter in full regalia, with hat, and coat. Then I actually look at it, and its an old terrorist with bed hair. Freaks me out every single time.

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        • nyetneetot says:

          It’s a hand drawn picture of some odd looking Russian or Ukrainian man and a glass of vodka that got turned into a meme back about 2005. It was sent to me as a joke. My original gravatar was a paining my wife made, but this one seemed to be just as unique and I haven’t seen it on the Internet anyplace (in English or any other language website).

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          • Cetera says:

            It’s so weird. My brain just responds to the light and dark patterns and sees something else entirely than when I actually look at it.

            The lines of his hands against his cheek form the pseudo-jaw line in my imagination, with the fireman staring off into the future/horizon heroically. The hair kinda seems to make a fireman hat crest, and dark hairy arms I see as the fireman torso, with the lighter shoulders being an open jacket. I have literally no idea why that is what my brain decides that picture is, when half-glanced in a tiny avatar, but it is, and then I see it, and I almost jump, startled, when I see that isn’t what it is.

            That jump must have happened to me a hundred times by now, but it is still the exact same thing, every time. It’s a shock, each time.

            To quote fake Sean Connery from Celebrity Jeopardy, in my direction, “Boy, you might be legally retarded.”

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    • derk says:

      Yes, to me at least.

      Liked by 3 people

  5. ImpeachEmAll says:

    Critical update for Flash Player.

    Note: released outside of
    Adobe’s regular patch cycle.

    Windows, Linux and Mac versions
    are affected, including versions
    embedded in Chrome and
    Edge/Internet Explorer 11.

    https://isc.sans.edu/forums/diary/Critical+Flash+Player+Update+APSB1636/21643/

    https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/

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  6. nyetneetot says:

    Morninโ€™ stella! (Smiter of those that ought to be smote) ๐Ÿ˜Ž ๐Ÿธ (Long Island Iced Tea)
    Morninโ€™ WeeWeed! (Master Mixologist Extrodinare) ๐Ÿ˜Ž ๐Ÿธ (Old Fashioned)
    Morninโ€™ Menagerie! ๐Ÿ˜Ž |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| (Jack Daniels – Single Barrel )
    Mornin’ Ad rem! (Queen Felis catus) ๐Ÿฑ ๐Ÿธ (Flaming Lamborghini)
    Mornin’ Sharon! ๐Ÿ˜Ž ๐Ÿธ (earthquake)
    Mornin’ ytz4mee! ๐Ÿ˜Ž ๐Ÿธ (cosmopolitan)
    Mornin’ partyzantski! ๐Ÿ™‚ |_| (Tom Collins)
    Mornin’ texan59! ๐Ÿ™‚ |_| (Black & Tan)
    Mornin’ ZurichMike! ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿธ (fuzzy navel)
    Morninโ€™ Col.(R) Ken! (hand salute) ๐Ÿ™‚ |_| (Boilermaker)
    Mornin’ czarowniczy! ๐Ÿ™‚ |_| ( and Czarina ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿธ )
    Mornin’ letjusticeprevail2014! ๐Ÿ™‚ |_| (Irish Car Bomb)
    Mornin’ Patriot1783-ctdar! (aka “ctdar”) ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿธ (grasshopper)
    Mornin’ tessa50! ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿธ (flaming volcano)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿธ (sidecar)
    Mornin’ varsityward! ๐Ÿ™‚ |_| (Godfather)
    Morninโ€™ MaryfromMarin! ๐Ÿ˜€ |_| (Mortlach)
    Mornin’ Wooly Phlox! (aka “taqiyyologist”) ๐Ÿ™‚ |_| (Roy Rogers)
    Morninโ€™ Howie! ๐Ÿ™‚ |_| (Classic Daiquiri)
    Morninโ€™ TwoLaine! ๐Ÿ™‚ |_| (Gin & Tonic)
    Morninโ€™ Sha! ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿธ (Lemon Drop)
    Mornin’ BigMamaTEA! ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿธ (Harvey Wallbanger)
    Mornin’ cetera5! (aka “Cetera”) ๐Ÿ™‚ |_| (Blackberry wine)
    Morninโ€™ The Tundra PA! ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿธ (bailey irish cream on the rocks)
    Morninโ€™ lovely! ๐Ÿ™‚ |_| (Backdraft)
    Morninโ€™ michellc! ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿธ (Salty dog)
    Morninโ€™ auscitizenmom! ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿธ (Kiss on the Lips)
    Mornin’ Margaret-Ann! ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿธ (White Russian)
    Mornin’ Auntie Lib! ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿธ (Tom and Jerry)
    Mornin’ holly100! ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿธ (Jack & Coke)
    Mornin’ Pam! ๐Ÿ™‚ (Not even water)
    Mornin’ ImpeachEmAll ๐Ÿ™‚ |_| (Flaming Dr. Pepper)
    Mornin’ Monroe! ๐Ÿ™‚ |_| (Stinger)
    Mornin’ Les! ๐Ÿ™‚ |_| (Rusty Nail)
    Mornin’ shiloh1973! ๐Ÿ™‚ |_| (Jack Daniels)
    Mornin’ TexasRanger! ๐Ÿ™‚ |_| (Whiskey Smash)
    Mornin’ Ziiggii! ๐Ÿ™‚ |_| (B52)
    Mornin’ oldiadguy! ๐Ÿ™‚ |_| (Rum & Coke)
    Mornin’ smiley! (“stuck in spambucket”) ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿธ (Spanish coffee)
    Mornin’ derk! (โ€œStellarsโ€) ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿธ (Mudslide)
    Mornin’ Jacqueline Taylor Robson ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿธ (Shirley Temple)
    Mornin’ facebkwallflower! ๐Ÿ™‚ |_| (Night Train Express)
    Mornin’ Ms. Cindy! (aka “Ms Cynlynn” aka “ms cynlynn”) ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿธ (1970 ducru beaucaillou)
    Mornin’ sandandsea2015! ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿธ (1961 Chรขteau Montrose)
    Mornin’ amwick! ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿธ (Blue motorcycle)
    Mornin’ hocuspocus13! ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿธ (1970 Chateau Latour)
    Mornin’ Sloth1963! ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿธ (1971 Moulin Touchais)
    Mornin’ MTeresa! (Ex-lurker) ๐Ÿ™‚ |_| (Albanian Raki Moskat)
    Mornin’ whiners and complainers! ๐Ÿ˜› (No drink for you!)
    Mornin’ to people posting that I missed. ๐Ÿ˜ณ
    Mornin’ to all you lurkers! ๐Ÿ˜•

    Also just in case someday; mornin’ to Elvis Chupacabra, F.D.R. in Hell and sundance! :mrgreen:

    Breakfast!

    NEW and IMPROVED breakfast with extra bacon for ZurichMike!

    Pastries for coffee!

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  7. WeeWeed says:

    Mornin’ kids!

    Liked by 2 people

  8. derk says:

    Good Morning All,

    So great that neither will be there soon. Have a great day and Stellar On!

    Liked by 7 people

  9. lovely says:

    Trump should run this November 5th – 8th many times a day on all kinds of MSM outlets. People are simple. The message is simple. People don’t like bullies and I believe it would have an impact.

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  10. lovely says:

    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/31959

    Bravo ! Joe Littlefield , Bravo!

    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/31959

    From:joe@prospecialty.com To: podesta@law.georgetown.edu Date: 2015-04-27 16:49 Subject: 2015

    John – you are loyal to a fault. You represent a client that is not honest and is most likely criminal. Hillary and Bill are not worth trying to defend as they are manipulative and they use people. Not exactly presidential material. Your defense of them losses all creditability to those that admire you. I hope you can see truth, live it and not live a lie. Joe Littlefield Honolulu, Hawaii

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  11. lovely says:

    And so it goes.

    BUNDY LAWYER TACKLED, TASERED BY 5 US MARSHALS, TAKEN INTO CUSTODY AFTER LASHING OUT AT JUDGE

    https://latest.com/2016/10/bundy-lawyer-tackled-tasered-by-5-us-marshals-taken-into-custody-after-lashing-out-at-judge/

    Ammon Bundyโ€™s lawyer was tackled to the ground in court, tasered, and taken into custody by US Marshals after a heated argument with the judge demanding his clientโ€™s release.

    On Thursday, Bundy, his brother Ryan, and five other militants who occupied the Malheur Wildlife Refuge in Oregon for 41 days were acquitted on all charges by a jury.

    After the acquittal, Ammonโ€™s lawyer Marcus Mumford lashed out at the judge, arguing that his client should be released from custody. Ammon and Ryan Bundy are still under a federal indictment for their role in the Nevada standoff at their father Clivenโ€™s ranch with federal officials.

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    • czarowniczy says:

      Trust me, take it from the horse’s mouth…or whatever end, depending upon whom you’re asking,…any judge owns that courtroom and treats it as his/her personal fiefdom. If anyone in front of the bench gets out of line that judge expects the bailiff/security to be Thor’s hammer and take the control back… only diff is the amount of force the judge expects you to use.
      Ain’t justifying the firce used, jes sayin’ its use is system-wide and varies by judge. Judges or their clerks will give you the acceptable parameters and your boss is more likely to get a message from the court if your application is too little.

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      • lovely says:

        I am certain the judge has no sympathy for this attorney or his clients. They perpetually said the court and the judge was illegitimate.

        The jury in a roundabout way agreed with that assessment. Not a good day for the court (depending on your viewing point).

        The attorney said that he asked that his clients be freed and the judge refused to allow them to go free, so the attorney asked to be given the documents that allowed the judge to remand his clients.

        Things got testy when no documents were produced.

        That is one side of what happened.

        I have said numerous times and advised numerous people, piss off a cop, piss off a bear, but never ever piss off a judge.

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        • czarowniczy says:

          Go and sit in a court for a few days and see how judges act, it’s better than TV. The interaction twixt the judge and the lawyers involved in a case, especially if there’s some sort of history or histrionics between the psrties, can be quite entertaining. I decided long ago that if I end up in court I have to make a determination if it’s better to go through the whole play or just eat my gun.

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        • Cetera says:

          On every ballot, I vote to not retain any judge, no matter what. Keep ’em rotating through. Let them get a taste of their own medicine, should it come to that.

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  12. Just to remind you of what’s coming up.

    Here comes the 2016 tax “surprise”- New Taxes This Year… Remember this in November 2016!

    As a brief reminder for those who forgot or for the many who didn’t know, here is what happened, quietly on January 1, 2016.

    Medicare tax went from 1.45% to 2.35%

    Top income tax bracket went from 35% to 39.6%.

    Top Income Payroll tax went from 37.4% to 52.2%.

    Capital Gains tax went from 15% to 28%.

    Dividend tax went from 15% to 39.6%.

    Estate tax went from 0% to 55%.

    A 3.5% Real Estate Transaction tax was added.

    Remember these facts: These taxes were all passed solely with Democrat votes. Not a single Republican voted for these taxes.

    These taxes were all passed in the Affordable Care Act, aka Obamacare.

    If you think that it is important that everyone in the U.S.A. knows this, pass it on!

    There are many millions who don’t know about it!

    * This was sent to my DH by the owner of his company yesterday.

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    • czarowniczy says:

      If uou have an estate to pass on get a good tax lawyer and look st thenoptions for wealth preservation before those loopholes are closed. The Rats may pass tax laws to zap the majority but sure as hell ain’t gonna tax themselves and their rich bosses into a cheese-and-mac lifestyle…any more than the RINOs would.
      Ways are out there, jes gotta hire the professional grren eyeshade types to get ’em tomya.

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  13. facebkwallflower says:

    So, Mr. FBwallflower and I went to a “Wings Etc.,” and ended up sitting at the bar. We were minding our own business, which is a great task for us as we love to visit with people and strangers. Then,

    The 60+ year old guy next to us shows us a comic on his phone. I don’t recall what it was even about but it was funny. And then,

    He mentioned Trump. And the 35 year old guy spoke up. Then,

    The guy, around 45 years old from Chicago pipes in about Trump. And then,

    The negative for Hilliary shit hit the fan! Four complete strangers (counting Mr. FBW and me as one entity) and all for Trump. All disgusted with Republican #nevertrump types who spew their vote your conscience as if it is actually moral and a good conscience to vote for McConnill or Johnson.

    the 35 year old voted for Obama in 2008. When the guy that drives truck all over the US said it was a bold thing to admit he said, “I have learned Trump supporters appreciate honestly and expect it from fellow patriots.” Say what? Out in public and the word “patriot” is actually being used?

    35 year old also said he made a change when Obama did an executive order about marshall law and had rights to personal property when in effect and saw Boston Bomber as test run to study if and how would pull off in real situation.

    They all said they did not care if Donald had in the past grabbed women against their will or spoke crudely of women, he is changed and he wants to save America. I pulled up on smartphone the transcript of the pussygate tape and showed them he never said what the media says he said. They read it, each one, which required another round of drinks. 35 year old marveled that he still had some more deprogramming to do because he thought how the media told him to.

    It was apparent these three men were not from around Hoosier Land because they were purposely speaking very loud with everything they were saying being a sell for Donald J. Trump. Speaking of Donald J. Trump, one mentioned he noticed the “J” is disappearing from Donald Trump these days and doesn’t know what but thinks something is up with that and not good.

    One thing I notice about Trump supporter men. They listen to a woman when she joins the conversation. They do not try to exclude her by ignoring her comments. They engage her. They expect her to have an opinion and contribute. A group of liberal men for Hilliary would silence the one female Hilliary supporter and want it to be their male bonding attempt at playing they have balls and are alpha. (Just my life observation).

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    • Wooly Phlox says:

      Awesome! And I’m not surprised.

      It’s refreshing.

      (Did you try the “Wall Sauce”? I’ve had hotter.)

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    • Thanks for sharing that! ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป๐Ÿ˜Š

      Hubby is a Hoosier and he just got done visiting family in Indiana. While there he stopped by a vets for Trump stand and got me a basket of deplorables shirt, which I can’t wait to wear!

      What’s the no J in DJT thing mean? I haven’t noticed that.

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    • auscitizenmom says:

      Georgiafl posted the link to this video on another thread. I think it is important if the subject of Trump’s loose lips comes up. You might want to watch it. This woman makes a real case for all of that being just talk. Trump never makes a move on Ariana Zucker in any way. Also, she points out how the other guy is egging Trump on the whole time and he doesn’t bite.

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      • facebkwallflower says:

        This is what I had them read. And they actually read it. Trump was joking and proof is when he met up with the lady he mentioned Melania, negating the old encounter:

        Here is the transcript from Trump’s leaked video. Where is the “against their consent” outrage coming from? I have read it and watched it and I see a guy talking uncouth about his attempts to score, admits he had no success and that was it; seeing her in person again now for first time since the rejection where he stopped pursuing when she was not interested. Where is the assault or the just “taking it” “without consent”?
        Transcript To Donald Trump Leaked Video 2005
        [Donald Trump Leaked Video 2005]
        [WARNING EXPLICIT LANGUAGE]
        [Unknown:]
        She used to be great. Sheโ€™s still very beautiful.
        [Donald Trump:]
        You know and I moved on her actually. You know she was down on Palm Beach. I moved on her and I failed. Iโ€™ll admit it. I did try and fuck her. She was married.
        [Unknown:]
        Thatโ€™s huge news.
        [Donald Trump:]
        No, no Nancy. No this was โ€“ And I moved on her very heavily in fact I took her out furniture shopping. She wanted to get some furniture. I said Iโ€™ll show you where they have some nice furniture. I took her out furniture. I moved on her like a bitch, but I couldnโ€™t get there, and she was married. Then all of a sudden I see her, sheโ€™s now got the big phony tits and everything. Sheโ€™s totally changed her look.
        [Billy Bush:]
        Sheesh, your girlโ€™s hot as shit. In the purple.
        [Various:]
        Whoa! Yes! Whoa!
        [Billy Bush:]
        Yes! The Donald has scored. Whoa, my man!
        [Crosstalk]
        [Donald Trump:]
        Look at you. You are a pussy.
        This distortion was in the video as obtained by The Post.
        [Donald Trump:]
        Maybe itโ€™s a different one.
        [Billy Bush:]
        It better not be the publicist. No, itโ€™s here. Itโ€™s
        [Donald Trump:]
        Yeah, thatโ€™s her. With the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know Iโ€™m automatically attracted to beautiful โ€“ I just start kissing them. Itโ€™s like a magnet. Just kiss, I donโ€™t even wait. And when youโ€™re a star (t) they let you do it. You can do anything.
        [Billy Bush:]
        Whatever you want.
        [Donald Trump:]
        Grab em by the pussy. You can do anything.
        [Billy Bush:]
        Yeah those legs, all I can see is the legs.
        [Donald Trump:]
        Oh, it looks good.
        [Billy Bush:]
        Come on, shorty.
        [Donald Trump:]
        Oh, nice legs, huh?
        [Billy Bush:]
        Oof, get out of the way, honey. Oh, thatโ€™s good legs. Go ahead.
        [Donald Trump:]
        Itโ€™s always good if you donโ€™t fall out of the bus. Like Ford, Gerald Ford, remember?
        [Billy Bush:]
        Down below. Pull the handle.
        [Donald Trump:]
        Hello, how are you, hi.
        [Arianne Zucker:]
        Hi Mr. Trump. How are you?
        [Donald Trump:]
        Nice seeing you. Terrific, terrific. You know Billy Bush?
        [Billy Bush:]
        Hello, nice to see you. How you doing, Arianne?
        [Arianne Zucker:]
        Iโ€™m doing very well, thank you. Are you ready to be a soap star?
        [Donald Trump:]
        Weโ€™re ready, letโ€™s go. Make me a soap star.
        [Billy Bush:]
        How about a little hug for the Donald? He just got off the bus.
        [Arianne Zucker:]
        Would you like a little hug, darling?
        [Donald Trump:]
        Absolutely. Melania said this was okay.
        [Billy Bush:]
        How about a little hug for the Bushy? I just got off the bus. Here we go. Excellent. Well youโ€™ve got a nice co-star here.
        [Arianne Zucker:]
        Yes, absolutely.
        [Donald Trump:]
        Good. After you. Come on Billy, donโ€™t be shy.
        [Billy Bush:]
        Soon as a beautiful woman shows up he just, he takes off. This always happens.
        [Arianne Zucker:]
        Iโ€™m sorry, come here.
        [Billy Bush:]
        Let the little guy in here, come on.
        [Arianne Zucker:]
        Yeah, let the little guy in. How you feel now? Better? I should actually be in the middle.
        [Billy Bush:]
        Itโ€™s hard to walk next to a guy like this. Yeah, you get in the middle. There we go.
        [Donald Trump:]
        Good. Thatโ€™s better.
        [Arianne Zucker:]
        This is much better. This is โ€“
        [Donald Trump:]
        Thatโ€™s better.
        [Billy Bush:]
        Now, if you had to choose honestly between one of us. Me or the Donald?
        [Donald Trump:]
        I donโ€™t know, thatโ€™s tough competition.
        [Arianne Zucker:]
        Thatโ€™s some pressure right there.
        [Billy Bush:]
        Seriously, you had to take one of us as a date.
        [Arianne Zucker:]
        I have to take the Fifth on that one.
        [Billy Bush:]
        Really?
        [Arianne Zucker:]
        Yep, Iโ€™ll take both.
        [Donald Trump:]
        Which way?
        [Arianne Zucker:]
        Make a right. Here we go. [Inaudible]
        [Billy Bush:]
        Here he goes. Iโ€™m gonna leave you here. Give me my microphone.
        [Donald Trump:]
        Okay. Okay. Oh, youโ€™re finished?
        [Billy Bush:]
        Youโ€™re my man. Yeah.
        [Donald Trump:]
        Oh, good.
        [Billy Bush:]
        Iโ€™m gonna go do our show.
        [Arianne Zucker:]
        Oh, you want to reset? Okay.

        I think the video would have been alot easier had I thought of it!

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      • lovely says:

        It is all a bunch of baloney.

        Look at the body language alone. Trump does not try to walk next to Zucker, Billy and Zucker push Zucker to the middle spot to be between Billy and Trump and then Zucker wraps her arm around Trump’s arm, Trump keeps his arm straight a physical signal that Zuker’s advance is not welcome. Meanwhile the Bush kid and Zucker have their arms intertwined.

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        • auscitizenmom says:

          I do think it was a setup. That is obvious by Billy’s actions and words. Zucker is in Days of Our Lives, that I watched for years. That outfit is not unusual for her character, though. And, I doubt she was in on it, really.

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          • lovely says:

            I don’t know if it was a set up? It was so long ago that it seems like it would have been awfully early to be filling a quiver against Trump but who knows?

            I do think that Billy was the instigator and I do this Trump talked like a pig.

            But I also as soon as Zucker was present Trump dialed it back and it is noteworthy that Trump immediately mentioned Melania to Zucker.

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    • auscitizenmom says:

      Thanks for sharing.

      Liked by 1 person

  14. czarowniczy says:

    Must be a sign of the End Times. Just got off of the phone with the comically named ‘VA Servoce Office’ and thrybwere sctually cheerful, attentive, efficient and…did I say efficient? Now let’s if what they promised to do actually comes to pass.

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    • WeeWeed says:

      Since it sounds like you’ll be toes up by tomorrow, Love you, Z!! Give us a word with the Big Guy. See ya’s shortly. ๐Ÿ˜€

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      • czarowniczy says:

        If I gave the impression I’m going to a VA hospital, sorry, no. I use an internationally renowned medical practice, not an internationally scorned one. I’ve just found out that those of us who were in Vietnam and later developd diabetes are eligible for an almost automatic disability. It does not contain, literally or figuratively, the poison pill that you must be tested or further use the Mengele, Caligari and Kervorkian Memorial Medical Clinic, better known as the VA medical system, in order to qualify.
        I just need some old records to establish my bona fides.

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    • Col.(R) Ken says:

      Czar, your not going on that Mission, without my permission, and I did not, say again DID NOT give you permission to go! Now Stand Your Post, Trooper!!!!!! Make sure the coffees hot at Revile…….

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      • czarowniczy says:

        And I say again, if any military who even set boots on ground in Vietnam develops mature onset type 2 diabetes you can apply for a relatively no-sweat VA disability for Agent Orange. You don’t have to prove you handled it, were sprayed by it or walked in it…it’s assumed if younput boots on ground. They use your physicians’ records, you don’t have to be examined or tested by the VA’s own sets of stooge doctors. I just needed a 214 from 1969 and the application package.
        BTW, if you apply call the VA first and have them record your intentbto apply, thst way when you are approved your disability payments, if any, would start from the day you gave your intent to file and not when the stamp in your application package.

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  15. stella says:

    Seen on Facebook:

    Just got into an argument with a lib prochoice idiot about abortion.

    Her: It’s my uterus. I own it.

    Me: NO, you invited renters when you let his weiner in and now it’s a rental house and you have a responsibility to the tenant.

    Her: What!?!!?

    Me: Abortion is like you being a slumlord and not keeping the property safe from looters and robbers.

    Her: Wha?!?!?

    Me: Unfortunately for your tenant, you are the one breaking into the home and if that baby had a gun, I’d fully support its rights to shoot your ass for trespassing. Even landlords can’t wander into a rental property uninvited and not expect to get shot. You are against home invasions against the poor and defenseless aren’t you?

    Her: Head explodes. AND it shut her up.

    LOL

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  17. lovely says:

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  18. czarowniczy says:

    Oh Gawd, debate for Louisians Federal Senstor will be held next week. I wil include the usual pol hopefuls at thevtop,of thevhead…including David ‘Show Me The Money!’ Duke. Man never misses the chance to embarrass the state and refill his coffers. I think a fiscal bill to just pay Duke to shut up and go away would get support from both sides of the aisle.

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    • Wooly Phlox says:

      Another reason I hate the Republican Party:

      They never kick anyone out. Ever. Even those acting to besmirch the Party.

      David Duke is to the Republican Party as Westboro “Baptist” is to Christianity.

      They do it intentionally, and it works. Because MPAI.

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      • czarowniczy says:

        Duke’s job is running for office. He gets nuts from all over the world sending him money to run for this, that or the other. He’s an embarrassment to all, and I believe his utterances are designed to (a) make him money and (b) ensure he doesn’t get elected.

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    • WeeWeed says:

      I’m voting Manness. Because I can’t differentiate from these clowns. What about Oliver Jenkins???
      All y’all normal peeps, we’ve got some primaries going on here along with the presidential.

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  19. ImpeachEmAll says:

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  20. ImpeachEmAll says:

    Interesting article, perhaps…

    Washington D.C., Oct 27, 2016 / 12:02 pm (CNA/EWTN News).- A reputed โ€œCatholic Springโ€ is in the news after hacked emails from John Podesta, now Hillary Clintonโ€™s campaign manager, indicated plans for an effort to sow revolution within the Church.

    But grants to the think tank Podesta founded also suggest links to other efforts targeting religion. The Center for American Progress appears to be part of an influence network that advocates restrictions on religious freedom while promoting dissent within Christianity on sexual morality, especially LGBT issues.

    http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/is-there-a-deeper-network-behind-the-catholic-spring-56682/?platform=hootsuite

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  21. ImpeachEmAll says:

    The online company paints itself as all-American. Online material says its founders, Todd and Clare Hammond, โ€œare an average American couple from Michigan, who met in the eighth grade.โ€ In 2011, the company says, the Christian couple started an email dating service, and โ€œhave married 3,000 couples to date.โ€ Their online network began in 2015, and a statement it filed to a U.N. body says it has โ€œ100,000+ female singlesโ€ in six countries.

    The companyโ€™s operating address is a warehouse loading dock in Houston. Its mail goes to a Houston drop box. Its phone numbers no longer work. WikiLeaks says Texas officials tell it the entity is not registered there either under toddandclare.com or a parent company, T&C Network Solutions.

    Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article110904727.html#storylink=cpy

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  22. ImpeachEmAll says:

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  23. lovely says:

    Look at the date. Trump has told them from day one that he knew more about them that they know about themselves.

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  24. lovely says:

    Trump is a beast. Love it. Just look at Stephanopoulos face. All I can say is Trump warned them. They should have listened.

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  25. stella says:

    Like

  26. stella says:

    Seen on Facebook:

    I have been thinking about Christian evangelical teacher Beth Moore and her reaction to Trump’s locker-room vulgarity tape–a reaction which has evidently amounted to a rejection of Trump’s candidacy.

    People must do what they must do, of course. But you know, Beth Moore is an influential teacher amongst evangelical Christians. And something just occurred to me that she knows at least as well as I do, and probably better: King David stole another manโ€™s wife, Bathsheba; had that man, Uriah, placed in a position in combat that guaranteed he would be slaughtered; and after he was slaughtered David married Bathsheba. The prophet Nathan called him on it and publicly denounced and shamed him afterwards, and he wrote Psalm 51 in penance for it.

    God did not reject David or remove him from the throne, did not move His people to reject their king, nothing like that at all. There are differences, of courseโ€”there always are. For example, the United States is not Godโ€™s chosen and beloved people like Israel was and is. But there are similarities as well, and they are significant. They are part of the outline of the story I have recounted above.

    I think some people need to be careful about considering the difference between sin and evil–and there is such a difference. Never THINK there is not such a difference.

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  27. stella says:

    Kellyanne Conway โ€@KellyannePolls 11m11 minutes ago

    SO let’s stop with the stories about them competing in TX, AZ, GA, UT…they are constantly in PA and now buying ads in WI. Blue state blues

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  28. auscitizenmom says:

    Hey, it’s Friday night and it’s dark out and there’s no booze. Whose got the keys to the bar?

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  29. Wooly Phlox says:

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  30. lovely says:

    Heh heh heh! Lemonade out of a liar!

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    • Wooly Phlox says:

      I went in to do some prep for the next day, the other night. One item on the list was our bleu cheese dressing. 15 ingredients. I had 14 all out on the prep table, and searched the house top to bottom for a bottle of lemon juice. No luck. Enraged at the fact that God told all the angels before I was born, “Whatever he needs or wants in this life, tell him F**k You.”, I put all the ingredients back in the cooler, and went to bed angry.

      Just as my head hit the pillow that night a small voice said “use a lemon, you moron.”

      Doh.

      I lost my voice. Again. Walking to the gas station a mile away to buy a pack of smokes, because it was midnight and no others were open, I yelled at the top of my lungs “F Islam! F Muhammad!” about 150 times. Every half-block or so. Surprised I wasn’t arrested, or even accosted. I get emotional and loud when I hear about Islam murdering 250 Christian toddlers in front of their parents by tossing them into industrial dough-kneading mixers. Now I have no voice and I still, strangely enough, want to punch the first Muslim male I see in the face until my knuckles are all broken.

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      • Wooly Phlox says:

        Good night, Stellars. Pray for what remains of my sanity.

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      • Wooly Phlox says:

        I’m in a bad place.

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      • lovely says:

        Wooly remember God has the last word. The evil that is Islam will be brought to its knees. I can’t for a second make sense of evil in the world. Not for a second. I always wonder what the hell people are talking about when they say God allowed them to go through this or that trial because they can now help people who go through the same trial? What? Why does any one have to go through the trial? I know free will not God’s will.

        It is maddening to not be able to stop barbarians but think it through, even if you bloodied a few savages of Islam in today’s day and age it would be spun to get the minions of the world to feel sorry for the savages.

        Prayer. Prayer and fasting if you fast and doing good for those you can do good for. Spread the word about Islam.

        Evil will fall.

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        • Wooly Phlox says:

          Thanks, Lovely. It is indeed maddening. I don’t want to be a crazy person, and yet…

          Maranatha.

          Tripod is purring.

          ๐Ÿ™‚

          There’s that. Maybe he knows tomorrow is caturday.

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          • lovely says:

            You see. Concentrate on the fact Tripod is purring, how beautiful is that and someday, someday there will be only beauty left. God’s way, God’s time, I don’t claim to understand it.

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          • auscitizenmom says:

            Wooly, there are things you have control over and there are things you have no control over. The things you have no control over you have to give to God to take care of. Do not let yourself be crazy. You are needed sane.

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  31. Wooly Phlox says:

    Hillary wants everyone to vote early.

    Before they have a chance to learn even more.

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  32. Cetera says:

    Were comments disabled next door on all new posts? I was wondering if things were just going to get to be too much, and get out of control.

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