General Discussion, Saturday, September 17, 2016

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  1. Col.(R) Ken says:

    Just making sure the lights are on! Beautiful Full Moon, Harvest Moon, going outside for awhile to observe….. See you all in a bit…..

    Liked by 7 people

  2. ImpeachEmAll says:

    Awake; but
    not awake.

    Liked by 6 people

  3. ImpeachEmAll says:

    It’s going to be a long night…

    Liked by 3 people

    • Col.(R) Ken says:

      It was, on my 5th cup now……

      Liked by 2 people

      • facebkwallflower says:

        Oh, I envy your bliss – five wonderful, beautiful, steaming, rich, smooth, hot cups of coffee and all before 9am! I participated in an experiment to see how many points reducing coffee affect the hypertension (high blood pressure). Reduction of one cup – no change. Ahh, was looking like I was right that coffee was just fine. Reduction of an additional cup a day, no change. When got to the reduction of three cups a day, BP, went up! Oh, such relief; looking like I was going to be back to the passionate love affair real soon. Reduction of four cups, BP up (yeah) average 14pts (top number) higher than when drinking 6-7 cups a day. No change for reduction of cups five and six.

        And then, We got to NO COFFEE (By now I had plans for the end of the study to go to Dunkin, then Gloria Jean’s, then even Starbucks, then every bar in town and have “mature coffee”). the first three days of absolutely NO coffee BP was back to starting point before the experiment. I was required to go a full nine days coffee-free. Day 9 was a very sad day indeed. My BP was 30 points LOWER. Ugh! Consistently lower for each day thereafter.

        No more coffee. My children are disappointed that their drug dealer has quit supplying them. Some are considering removing me as their mother in their facebook stats. Friends don’t want to come for coffee and drink alone; makes them feel like addicts. Plus, they have a hard time drinking it with me sniffing the aroma from their cup.

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        • czarowniczy says:

          I would remove my kids before I removed my coffee….oh wait, I have. From my large GI canteen cup of coffee to my ever-present 20-ounce emergency-fix mug in civilian life coffee was my pal. To make life even sweeter Folgers had a major roasting plant right across the street.

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          • Col.(R) Ken says:

            Hey Czar!! What’s the date on your canteen cup? Mine is 1949. I have paid for that canteen cup many times, just to keep from turning it in. I’ll need it when I go to Fiddler’s Green!!!!!!

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            • czarowniczy says:

              Honestly don’t recall. It’s out in a box with my Vietnam, Desert Storm, Cold War and GWOT uniform sets. You know, those historical ensembles we carefully store so that our kids can sell it on eBay.
              I do have kitchen equipment from the old Banana Belt at Ft Carson that is marked back to the early 50s.

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  4. stella says:

    Seen on Facebook:

    Senator Chris McDaniel
    September 15 at 9:41pm Β·

    The corruption is mind boggling.

    There is absolutely NO JUSTIFICATION for a Chinese company to be involved in U.S. military-related projects.

    But Thad Cochran (or Haley Barbour) has been lobbying for China to be involved.

    From the article:

    “After the Ingalls executives left China, the defense liaison officer in Shanghai, Steve Angel, alerted the Pentagon, the Navy and the U.S. Embassy in Beijing about the trip.

    β€œIngalls Shipbuilding was here looking at Chinese shipbuilding companies to build a dry dock for USN ship construction,” Angel wrote. β€œLobbied for by a U.S. Senator (Cochran). Not sure what Big Navy’s or OSD’s awareness are, but wanted to flag this for awareness.”

    Leaders at the Pentagon were not happy.

    But hey, who cares about national security when the establishment is getting paid the big bucks?

    Now, follow the money.

    According to its public filings, Huntington Ingalls spent $4.8 million on lobbying in 2015. One of Huntington Ingalls’s in-house lobbyists, Carolyn Apostolou, spent 26 years as a professional staffer on the Senate Appropriations Committee before joining Huntington Ingalls in 2013, according to the Center for Responsive Politics’ Open Secrets project. Gallegos said Ingalls employees have also supported Cochran financially.

    Anyone care to guess how much Haley Barbour’s lobbying firm is making to secure the deal?

    And that’s precisely why 2014 was so important to them.

    All of my Washington Post views for this month are exhausted, but here’s the link to the original article:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/josh-rogin/wp/2016/09/15/why-is-the-navys-largest-shipbuilder-looking-for-a-subcontractor-in-china/

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    • Col.(R) Ken says:

      Stella, yes this is mind boggling…..has been going on since 1775. Until the Commander in Chief puts his foot down……just think of all of the palms that were greased inside the DC beltway.

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    • czarowniczy says:

      SHTF when BRAC closed Long Beach Naval Shipyard to the city. Clinton almost had it sold to the Chinese but it went to a South Korean company instead. There is that huge new Chinese-built drydock coming on line in Portland…seems we jes can’t make our own stuff no mo.

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      • Pam says:

        We recently delved into the world of bathroom faucets and shower heads, since we are going to have to replace these in our master bathroom. We discovered that most companies now get their products from China, or some-to-all parts are manufactured in China and assembled in the U.S. Even Moen, which was/is at the top of the list of the “good” companies. The best company for assuring your faucets are made in the U.S. is Delta. They are not 100% U.S. manufactured, but most of their products are, at least as of 3-4 years ago.

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        • czarowniczy says:

          Yeah, a goodly number of our critical military equipment parts are made there too, have been for many years now. A few years back the DoD discovered that a US Fed parts contractor bought a huge load of high-strength bolts from China and never did QC checks. Turned out that many were garbage and DoD spent a lotta $$$$$ swapping out bolts in equipment tne contractor’s crap may have gone into. Also DoD bought a lot of critical solid state circuit chips that were announced as going into US missiles from a Chinese firm…geez, what could go wrong?

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          • Col.(R) Ken says:

            Czar, that episode hit Avaition like a fire storm. It was long hours for everyone. We were grounded, after two weeks the TI’s were fizz out…..all work, engines, gun/wing pods and mounts everything was checked, all past work orders……took us about two months then we deployed to Korea………

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            • czarowniczy says:

              Yep, and a few years later investigators found phony servers on a highly classified system , servers with markings that were so perfect the substitution wasn’t discovered until one went back to the US maker’s plant. About how we felt when, in the late 70s, we got our new manual typewriters for our Combat Engineer mobility kits only to find they were made in East Germany.

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  5. texan59 says:

    Soooooo glad I could sleep in on a day when I could. Coffee up y’all. :/

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  6. texan59 says:

    If you ever wondered why DC is so out of touch with us regular folk, this may explain part of it. Rather expensive date night if you ask me. πŸ™„

    http://tiny.cc/xtivey

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    • nyetneetot says:

      β€œPricing is an art, it’s not a science,” said Gregg Rapp, a restaurant consultant who specializes in menu profitability.

      A whole lot of stupid in that statement. Just try staying in business running in the red. Yeah, yeah, I know the government does it, so it’s the in thing now.

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    • Col.(R) Ken says:

      It’s a whole different world down there. Try dinner at Carmine’s old fashioned Italian restaurant…..a block up from the ESPN Zone…….about 4 Franklins plus……

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  7. nyetneetot says:

    Mornin’ stella! (Smiter of those that ought to be smote) 😎 🍸 (Long Island Iced Tea)
    Mornin’ WeeWeed! (Master Mixologist Extrodinare) 😎 🍸 (Old Fashioned)
    Mornin’ Menagerie! 😎 |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| (Jack Daniels – Single Barrel )
    Mornin’ Ad rem! (Queen Felis catus) 🐱 🍸 (Flaming Lamborghini)
    Mornin’ Sharon! 😎 🍸 (earthquake)
    Mornin’ ytz4mee! 😎 🍸 (cosmopolitan)
    Mornin’ partyzantski! πŸ™‚ |_| (Tom Collins)
    Mornin’ texan59! πŸ™‚ |_| (Black & Tan)
    Mornin’ ZurichMike! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (fuzzy navel)
    Mornin’ Col.(R) Ken! (hand salute) πŸ™‚ |_| (Boilermaker)
    Mornin’ czarowniczy! πŸ™‚ |_| ( and Czarina πŸ™‚ 🍸 )
    Mornin’ letjusticeprevail2014! πŸ™‚ |_| (Irish Car Bomb)
    Mornin’ ctdar! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (grasshopper)
    Mornin’ tessa50! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (flaming volcano)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (sidecar)
    Mornin’ varsityward! πŸ™‚ |_| (Godfather)
    Mornin’ MaryfromMarin! πŸ˜€ |_| (Mortlach)
    Mornin’ Wooly Phlox! (aka “taqiyyologist”) πŸ™‚ |_| (Roy Rogers)
    Mornin’ Howie! πŸ™‚ |_| (Classic Daiquiri)
    Mornin’ TwoLaine! πŸ™‚ |_| (Gin & Tonic)
    Mornin’ Sha! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Lemon Drop)
    Mornin’ BigMamaTEA! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Harvey Wallbanger)
    Mornin’ cetera5! (aka “Cetera”) πŸ™‚ |_| (Blackberry wine)
    Mornin’ The Tundra PA! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (bailey irish cream on the rocks)
    Mornin’ lovely! πŸ™‚ |_| (Backdraft)
    Mornin’ michellc! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Salty dog)
    Mornin’ auscitizenmom! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Kiss on the Lips)
    Mornin’ Margaret-Ann! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (White Russian)
    Mornin’ Auntie Lib! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Tom and Jerry)
    Mornin’ holly100! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Jack & Coke)
    Mornin’ Pam! πŸ™‚ (Not even water)
    Mornin’ ImpeachEmAll πŸ™‚ |_| (Flaming Dr. Pepper)
    Mornin’ Monroe! πŸ™‚ |_| (Stinger)
    Mornin’ Les! πŸ™‚ |_| (Rusty Nail)
    Mornin’ shiloh1973! πŸ™‚ |_| (Jack Daniels)
    Mornin’ TexasRanger! πŸ™‚ |_| (Whiskey Smash)
    Mornin’ Ziiggii! πŸ™‚ |_| (B52)
    Mornin’ oldiadguy! πŸ™‚ |_| (Rum & Coke)
    Mornin’ smiley! (“stuck in spambucket”) πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Spanish coffee)
    Mornin’ derk! (β€œStellars”) πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Mudslide)
    Mornin’ Jacqueline Taylor Robson πŸ™‚ 🍸 (Shirley Temple)
    Mornin’ facebkwallflower! πŸ™‚ |_| (Night Train Express)
    Mornin’ Ms. Cindy! (aka “Ms Cynlynn” aka “ms cynlynn”) πŸ™‚ 🍸 (1970 ducru beaucaillou)
    Mornin’ sandandsea2015! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (1961 ChΓ’teau Montrose)
    Mornin’ amwick! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (1971 Moulin Touchais)
    Mornin’ hocuspocus13! πŸ™‚ 🍸 (1970 Chateau Latour)
    Mornin’ whiners and complainers! πŸ˜› (No drink for you!)
    Mornin’ to people posting that I missed. 😳
    Mornin’ to all you lurkers! πŸ˜•

    Also just in case someday; mornin’ to Elvis Chupacabra, F.D.R. in Hell and sundance! :mrgreen:

    Breakfast!

    NEW and IMPROVED breakfast with extra bacon for ZurichMike!

    Coffee cake!

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  8. texan59 says:

    I know the fishwrapper of record has written a few articles somewhat critical of teh Hilda-beest, but this is getting funnier and funnier. πŸ˜† πŸ˜†

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/17/us/politics/hillary-clinton-voters.html

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  9. amwick says:

    I used to shop at Fishs Eddy… I bought my good dinner plates there, about a million years ago…and Zabars,,,, I could spend an hour roaming around upstairs… good memories… funny article.

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  10. texan59 says:

    I think this article paints a wonderful, disturbing, picture of the difference between d’s and r’s. The d’s, no matter how bad their candidate might be, or how much they might personally dislike each other, still bring out all of their guns to support “their” candidate. Our side, OTOH, often acts as a petulant child, pouting, or acting like you just stole their ice cream cone, and huddles in the corner and won’t come out to play. I know that at the end of his tenure, Dubya was not well liked by his own team, but nonetheless has chosen to pretty much sit on his hands for eight years. He never went out and campaigned for Mittens, nor has he really said anything about the current occupant of 1600 Penn. Ave., or their desired successor.

    We also have the #NeverTrump crowd who are doing the same exact thing. Apparently they know that they have now been placed in the trash bin, and walk around p*ssing and moaning. I only hope that if we win, that Trump actually does kick them to the curb for good. If he picks a staff of retreads going back to GHWB’s cabinet, don’t expect too much to happen than what we’ve seen before.

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/β€˜a-president-can’t-just-pop-off’-michelle-obama-chides-trump-at-virginia-rally/ar-BBwfPBH?li=BBnbfcL

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    • auscitizenmom says:

      I’ll be honest with you, I don’t think that Trump will want any of those people anywhere near his administration. And, he will expect EVERYONE to work their butts off and produce.

      Liked by 3 people

  11. WeeWeed says:

    Mornin’ kids!

    Liked by 5 people

  12. nyetneetot says:

    Happy birthday auscitizenmom!

    Liked by 8 people

  13. Howie says:

    The reviews on Hillarys book are piling up on Amazon. They are the best and most Hillaryous of the century. Do not miss this before they pull it down.
    First off, I would like to thank Hillary for printing this all in blue ink because the color blue helps prevent my seizures. It was a little bit of a long read, being 32,000 pages of yoga routines, but I powered through it. Its amazing to think that she wrote the entire book on a Blackberry! I didn’t know it was a pop-up book until I got to the chapter about her husband, Bill and his oval office experiences. The only issues I had with the book were all of the annoying “C” markings in the margins.
    https://www.amazon.com/Stronger-Together-Hillary-Rodham-Clinton/dp/1501161733/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1474082606&sr=8-1&keywords=stronger%20together%20hillary%20clinton

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    • nyetneetot says:

      LOL!!! 83% one star ratings!

      Liked by 4 people

    • Howie says:

      Another gem.This book explains the meaning of life. Liberals please buy this book and read it on election day. Don’t leave your house until you have finished it.

      Liked by 4 people

    • czarowniczy says:

      Wonder when reviewers will start showing up dead in parks, beaten to death by dull objects.

      Liked by 2 people

    • czarowniczy says:

      Oh lord, love the comment that: ” This could be the first ‘book’ in history to have more reviews on Amazon than actual sales…”. Waiting for Hellary sanitizors to say that Putin cronies hacked the Amazon site on Trump orders and posted the negative reviews.

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    • czarowniczy says:

      If we go vack to Hellary’s first print attempt to grab the stage, ‘It Takes a Village’, there’s been a Hellary ‘authored’ or salutary book on the market every few years to keep her in the public’s eye.
      I don’t think there are many people out there who believe she wrote her books herself, presidential hopefuls regularly employ some professional BS slinger to get their stories out there as part of the selling process. What surprises me is that with all of their money Billery couldn’t come up with a better ghostwriter – a double edged term where they’re concerned.

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  14. Howie says:

    I was absorbed reading “Stronger Together” but by page 30, I had a episode of confusion. All I can recall is being dragged toward my car. The only thing I wonder, now that I’m fully conscious in the safety of my home, is “why is the presidential running mate waving a Nazi salute on the book cover? Could it be coincidence or a hidden message?”

    I really wanted to read this book but the pages were wiped clean with a cloth before it was shipped to me. Luckily i donated $500,000 to the Clinton foundation which gave me special privileges and allowed me to control Hillary like a puppet. Now i get to be part of her cabinet.

    I found this book in a bathroom stall, half the pages were missing, then I realized there was no toilet paper in the stall.

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  15. nyetneetot says:

    Oldest melody in existence
    The Hurrian Hymn was discovered in the 1950s on a clay tablet inscribed with Cuneiform text. It’s the oldest surviving melody and is over 3400 years old.

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  16. stella says:

    Distressing post on Facebook – man who is a friend of my cousins in Sanilac County, MI:

    To the useless pieces of shit that cut the fence and drove into the cow pasture on ringle road and killed 5 cows by running them down with your truck, we got you on trail cam.!!!! So you can turn yourself in or cops can get you. YOUR CHOICE. CLOCKS TICKING. PLEASE SHARE SO WE CAN GET THESE COWARDS!!!!

    Accompanied by a photo of a poor dead cow. Police said not to post pics of the truck yet, to give the people responsible a chance to turn themselves in.

    What kind of people attack and kill helpless animals?

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  17. lovely says:

    Anyone else notice that Hillary is generally just a hijab away from wearing a burka?

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  18. stella says:

    Seen on Facebook:

    Breaking news – Seaside- Multiple IED’s found at The Marine 5k on the boardwalk – with one explosion. Boardwalk being evacuated- Multiple bomb squads en route.

    My gf is a 911 operator on the Jersey Shore and this is from her.

    Web post – charity 5k run cancelled:

    http://www.seasidesemperfive.org/

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  19. stella says:

    Race tightens in projected U.S. Electoral College vote: Reuters/Ipsos

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/race-tightens-projected-u-electoral-college-vote-reuters-114535676.html

    An election analysis conducted in the Reuters/Ipsos States of the Nation project shows that the race has tightened considerably over the past few weeks, with Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump projected to win Florida, an essential battleground state, if the election were held today.

    The project, which is based on a weekly tracking poll of more than 15,000 Americans, shows that the 2016 presidential race could end in a photo finish on Nov. 8, with the major-party candidates running nearly even in the Electoral College, the body that ultimately selects the president.

    The States of the Nation project, which delivers a weekly tally of support for the candidates in every state, shows that the race has tightened in several traditional battlegrounds. Pennsylvania has been moved from a likely win for Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton to a tossup; Ohio has been moved from a tossup to a likely win for Clinton.

    And Florida is now considered a likely win for the Republican nominee, with 50 percent support for Trump to 46 percent support for Clinton. If the election were held today, the project estimates that Clinton has a 60 percent chance of winning by 18 electoral votes. Last week, the project estimated that Clinton had a 83 percent chance of winning the election.

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  20. czarowniczy says:

    On the less contentious side, we’re now into the fall hummingbird migration. Early morning and early evening we can have over twenty at a time on the patio, you can sit out there with a drink and it’s not unusual to have one or more get right into your face. It looks like the same ones over and over but we’re told they’re different ones fueling ip to bilk up beforevthey beginntheir cross-Gulf nonstop migration. Little bugeaters can go thru the better part of a quart a day spaced in four feeders at peak migration.

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    • The Tundra PA says:

      How cool for you, czar! I love hummers, but we don’t get many up our way.

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      • czarowniczy says:

        You should get three subspecies that live up there, migrating back and forth. I’d suggest that you get an inexpensive (they work as well as the expensive ones) feeder -we use: https://www.amazon.com/First-Nature-Hummingbird-Feeder-16-Ounce/dp/B005XOZKC6/ref=sr_1_5?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1474140994&sr=1-5&keywords=hummingbird+feeder

        I have three large more expensive ones we bought before we discovered the cheaper obes work as well as the expensive ones, the birds do not care about anything but the filling. Put one out in the early spring and see if you get any hits. You generally don’t see them unless you’re around flowers they feed off of. Avoid the ones with the yellow flowers, I’m told by bird folks that hummers do notvsee yellow, they’re looking for red. Wasps, however, love yellow and sugar water.
        Don’t fall for the bottled feeder liquid or the packaged powder, it’s overpriced and hasn’t been proved safe. I mix four parts water to one part granulated sugar for summer feeding and three water to one sugar for fall migration feeding. They aren’t ‘eating’ the mix but rather using it as an energy source to hunt the bugs they eat.
        In late winter here I keep the feeder inside overnight and put it out soon as the sun’s up as hummers go into a torpor when the temp drops and need energy as soon as their body temp allows them to fly.
        Welcome to my migratory bird obsession.

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        • The Tundra PA says:

          I have seen a few in these parts over the years, but only a very few. We have MANY other migratory species that arrive by the thousands for the summer mosquito-feast. Have you ever been to Alaska in the summer? It is a birder’s dream come true.

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          • czarowniczy says:

            Oh yes, as I posted a while back, wuuuuunderful Fairbanks (Ft Richardson) in the winter and the mud spring. I believe the term I used was ‘mosquitoes lage enough to filet’. Then those wuuuuunderful vampire black flies…no wonder the birds don’t stay, all around it’s bad for their health.

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        • ImpeachEmAll says:

          Add a little
          Gatorade
          to the mix.

          Like

  21. WeeWeed says:

    Beer-thirty, and the first one’s for the birthday girl!!! πŸ˜€

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  22. texan59 says:

    “An Interview with Decius” Good read, but it will take more than 30 seconds.

    http://amgreatness.com/2016/09/17/an-interview-with-decius/

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  23. shiloh1973 says:

    Well, his is a major deal. We just bombed Syrian forces during a cease fire.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-37398721

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  24. lovely says:

    Prayers

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  25. stella says:

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  26. stella says:

    Like

  27. lovely says:

    Multiple people injured in Chelsea explosion

    http://pix11.com/2016/09/17/fdny-confirms-outdoor-explosion-in-chelsea/

    CHELSEA, Manhattan β€” Multiple people were injured during an outdoor explosion in Chelsea Saturday night.

    The explosion happened at 135 23rd Street between Sixth and Seventh avenues.

    It was not immediately clear how many people were injured or the severity of their injuries.

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  28. lovely says:

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  29. texan59 says:

    Miss Wee, what in tarnation were yer GeauxTigers wearin’ today. That was gawdawful. πŸ™„

    http://www.lsusports.net/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=5200&ATCLID=211166487

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  30. texan59 says:

    Did ya’z see the story of this big boy. 7′ 1″ tall and 400# HS football player. 😯 😯

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/more-sports/say-hello-to-the-7-foot-1-400-pound-football-player-in-new-york/ar-BBwgUOt?li=BBnbfcL

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  31. shiloh1973 says:

    What is going on today?? There was also a shooting at a mall in Calgary Canada!
    http://www.alboenews.com/breaking-shooting-at-mall-in-canada/

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  32. lovely says:

    Is there anyone who is not a complete idiot who thinks this is a healthy woman? I thought she might drop dead live on camera.

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