General Discussion, Thursday, July 7, 2016

Posted on July 7, 2016 by Stella

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191 Responses to General Discussion, Thursday, July 7, 2016

  1. nyetneetot's avatar nyetneetot says:
    July 7, 2016 at 12:07 am

    ???? No way….

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    • MaryfromMarin's avatar MaryfromMarin says:
      July 7, 2016 at 12:13 am

      Way!!

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    • nyetneetot's avatar nyetneetot says:
      July 7, 2016 at 12:14 am

      So, the above photo is of the neighbors backed up septic system. All we can see is the top of the fence separating us from the empty Jack Daniel’s bottles tossed against the mighty tree.
      I will be glad when this election season is over and the guests go back to RedState or wherever so the waters can recede and I can find that quarter I dropped.

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  2. Wooly Covfefe's avatar Wooly Phlox says:
    July 7, 2016 at 12:15 am

    I discovered this band a couple weeks back. Amazing.

    https://www.youtube.com/user/iamAURORAVEVO

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  3. Stella's avatar stella says:
    July 7, 2016 at 12:53 am

    Excellent PBS series called “9 Months That Made You”. Here’s a link to the first episode, “The First 8 Weeks”.

    http://www.pbs.org/video/2365780243/

    How anyone can watch this and still support abortion, is beyond me.

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  4. MaryfromMarin's avatar MaryfromMarin says:
    July 7, 2016 at 1:15 am

    Interesting little snippet (plus comments):

    Should California conservatives and libertarians move?

    http://olegvolk.net/blog/2016/07/01/should-california-conservatives-and-libertarians-move/

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    • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
      July 7, 2016 at 1:55 am

      Thry might wanna hang around, look what being almost extinct got the condors…

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      • MaryfromMarin's avatar MaryfromMarin says:
        July 7, 2016 at 3:25 am

        Ha! Visualizing the likelihood of a “captive breeding program” for Cali conservatives. More like a “captive eradication program”.

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        • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
          July 7, 2016 at 9:39 am

          All he has to do is wait for those invasive species to tip the environmental balance. At some point their natural prey ( Cali taxpayers) will be extinct and no more Soylent Verde. Natural selection through natural processes, there may be some post-apocalyptic clean ip but there’ll be plenty of stuff to recycle.

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  5. czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
    July 7, 2016 at 2:11 am

    Judt because…..nite all,

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    • Stella's avatar stella says:
      July 7, 2016 at 11:12 am

      Thanks for posting that! Don’t need a reason to listen to good music. I love the fiddle, especially. Lots of that in my Celtic roots. My grandpa and great grandpa (mom’s side) played fiddle, my great uncle Nathan served as a “musician” (according to his service record) in the Michigan Infantry in 1864-1865, and my uncle Allen was a bugler in the Army infantry in 1918-1919. Many in the family have fine singing voices, even if we don’t play other instruments!

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  6. Col.(R) Ken's avatar Col.(R) Ken says:
    July 7, 2016 at 3:08 am

    After a few hours of lightning/thunder, heavy rain, I’m up, and over to the barn. I’ll hold morning formation, roll call, and inspection. Also put a fresh gallon of milk out for those cats. Morning and see you all in a bit……

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  7. MaryfromMarin's avatar MaryfromMarin says:
    July 7, 2016 at 3:29 am

    I just came across this. It came out two weeks ago, so I imagine it’s been posted here before. I just hadn’t seen it yet, and was sickened. Whither bravery?

    Confirmed: Orlando Cops Told to Stand Down — Not to Pursue Shooter for “15-20 Minutes”

    http://www.dcclothesline.com/2016/06/24/confirmed-orlando-cops-told-to-stand-down-not-to-pursue-shooter-for-15-20-minutes/

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    • auscitizenmom's avatar auscitizenmom says:
      July 7, 2016 at 8:07 am

      Somebody’s got some ‘splainin’ to do. SMH

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    • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
      July 7, 2016 at 9:56 am

      Shouldn’t be hard to explain. Brass can say something yo the effect that this situation’s SWAT’s respobsibility, they have the extensive training and equipment and in a case of an active shooter in crowded venue it’s best to minimize potential casualties by having trained vice street cops handle the matter. The street cops job was to secure the perimeter, prevent casualties from outside the club, contain the shooter and prepare the outside area forvthevarrival,ofvthe ‘experts’.
      They could slso go on about how SWAT was delayed by this or that while they tried to assess the situation and plan their assault. there was probably a political aspect as the CYA oplan was put into place, in all ‘explaining’ this will be no big thing. Look for the deflection to ‘casualties would have been worse had we not waited’ canard as well as other boilerplare political shields.
      Anyone else fond it curious the officer referred to his service rifle as an ‘assault rifle’? I know no police officer/ deputy whonreferrs to rifle as an assault rifle. Long gun, issue rifle, duty rifle but not assailt rifle. No LEA will say it issues its officers assault rifles.

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      • auscitizenmom's avatar auscitizenmom says:
        July 7, 2016 at 10:10 am

        Yes, that caught my eye.

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      • michellc's avatar michellc says:
        July 7, 2016 at 12:43 pm

        We all do have liberal officers running around who fight just as hard, and think their opinion holds more water than the regular Joe, against the 2nd amendment. I witnessed more cops than regular Joes backing the so-called assault weapons ban under Clinton and saw more cops than regular Joes fighting against our state’s open carry law. I even personally know some of them who swear they have military assault rifles issued to them when they have been issued AR-15s.

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        • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
          July 7, 2016 at 12:51 pm

          Forcsure, but my explanation’s with the professional uper-rank bureaucrats. Case in point is the Louisiana governor releasing a BGI-friendly slap at the police involved in the recent Baton Rouge shooting. So far I have not heard one police chief/sheriff nail him for slapping the police before the official autopsy was released, never mind the investigation into the officers conduct.

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  9. nyetneetot's avatar nyetneetot says:
    July 7, 2016 at 8:47 am

    Mornin’ stella! (Smiter of those that ought to be smote) 😎 🍸 (Long Island Iced Tea)
    Mornin’ WeeWeed! (Master Mixologist Extrodinare) 😎 🍸 (Old Fashioned)
    Mornin’ Menagerie! 😎 |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| (Jack Daniels)
    Mornin’ Ad rem! (Queen Felis catus) 🐱 🍸 (Flaming Lamborghini)
    Mornin’ Sharon! 😎 🍸 (earthquake)
    Mornin’ ytz4mee! 😎 🍸 (cosmopolitan)
    Mornin’ partyzantski! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ texan59! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ ZurichMike! 🙂 🍸 (fuzzy navel)
    Mornin’ Col.(R) Ken! (hand salute) 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ czarowniczy! 🙂 |_| ( and Czarina 🙂 🍸 )
    Mornin’ letjusticeprevail2014! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ ctdar! 🙂 🍸 (grasshopper)
    Mornin’ tessa50! 🙂 🍸 (flaming volcano)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! 🙂 🍸 (sidecar)
    Mornin’ varsityward! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ MaryfromMarin! 😀 |_| (Mortlach)
    Mornin’ Wooly Phlox! (aka “taqiyyologist”) 🙂 |_| (Roy Rogers)
    Mornin’ Howie! 🙂 |_| (Classic Daiquiri)
    Mornin’ TwoLaine! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ Sha! 🙂 🍸 (Lemon Drop)
    Mornin’ BigMamaTEA! 🙂 🍸 (Harvey Wallbanger)
    Mornin’ cetera5! (aka “Cetera”) 🙂 |_| (Blackberry wine)
    Mornin’ The Tundra PA! 🙂 🍸 (bailey irish cream on the rocks)
    Mornin’ lovely! 🙂 |_| (Backdraft)
    Mornin’ michellc! 🙂 🍸 (Salty dog)
    Mornin’ auscitizenmom! 🙂 🍸 (Kiss on the Lips)
    Mornin’ Margaret-Ann! 🙂 🍸 (White Russian)
    Mornin’ Auntie Lib! 🙂 🍸 (Tom and Jerry)
    Mornin’ holly100! 🙂 🍸
    Mornin’ Pam! 🙂
    Mornin’ ImpeachEmAll 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ Monroe! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ Les! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ shiloh1973! 🙂 |_| (Jack Daniels)
    Mornin’ TexasRanger! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ Ziiggii! 🙂 |_| (B52)
    Mornin’ oldiadguy! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ smiley! (“stuck in spambucket”) 🙂 🍸 (Spanish coffee)
    Mornin’ derk! (“Stellars”) 🙂 🍸 (Mudslide)
    Mornin’ Jacqueline Taylor Robson 🙂 🍸 (Shirley Temple)
    Mornin’ facebkwallflower! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ Ms. Cindy! (aka “Ms Cynlynn” aka “ms cynlynn”) 🙂 🍸
    Mornin’ sandandsea2015! 🙂 🍸
    Mornin’ whiners and complainers! ⭐ 😛 (No drink for you!)
    Mornin’ to people posting that I missed. 😳
    Mornin’ to all you lurkers! 😕

    Also just in case someday; mornin’ to Elvis Chupacabra and F.D.R. in Hell! :mrgreen:

    Breakfast!

    NEW and IMPROVED breakfast with extra bacon for ZurichMike!

    Pastries for coffee!

    ⭐ = Unprintable phallic symbol

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    • auscitizenmom's avatar auscitizenmom says:
      July 7, 2016 at 8:52 am

      Mornin’ Nyet, everybody. I’ll just have some juice. Throat still a little sore.

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      • sandandsea2015's avatar sandandsea2015 says:
        July 7, 2016 at 9:02 am

        Sorry you don’t feel well. I’m heading to the doc in the box later. Hoping it’s not strep.

        All y’all have a good day! Take care!

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        • auscitizenmom's avatar auscitizenmom says:
          July 7, 2016 at 10:04 am

          Said a little prayer for you that it’s not strep. I got a test and it was negative. But, I still have an awful sore throat.

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          • sandandsea2015's avatar sandandsea2015 says:
            July 7, 2016 at 2:35 pm

            Thank you. Mine said neg, but they took another one and sent it off to the lab. In the meantime, lots of icy drinks and Advil. Hope yours gets better very soon! 🙂

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            • auscitizenmom's avatar auscitizenmom says:
              July 7, 2016 at 2:42 pm

              Yeah, I guess you know the quick test can give you a false negative, so they send out a culture. They are more accurate. I still feel like I have a knife blade on the left side of my throat. And, it has been a week.

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              • sandandsea2015's avatar sandandsea2015 says:
                July 7, 2016 at 2:47 pm

                Yeah. I just hoped I’d get an answer today but now it will be Saturday before I know, which of course means they wouldn’t give me any meds. I feel your pain… literally. 🙂

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                • auscitizenmom's avatar auscitizenmom says:
                  July 7, 2016 at 3:08 pm

                  Let me give you some advice. Gargle with salt water several times a day. (I didn’t because I am stupid and I hate gargling with salt water) I would probably be much better if I had done it more than once. I am going to start right now. Also, because it is probably the drainage from your sinuses causing the sore throat, rinse your sinuses with salt water. Do you know what a netti pot is? A squeeze bottle will do, too, I think. Be sure to put salt in the water because that not only helps, but stops the pain you will have with plain water. And, DO NOT use tap water unless you boil it for a while first. I offer these suggestions because I know I would be better than I am if I had listened and done them. 😦

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                  • auscitizenmom's avatar auscitizenmom says:
                    July 7, 2016 at 4:24 pm

                    There are instructions at this site: (note: boil tap water for 3 to 5 min. and cool before using)
                    http://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/ConsumerUpdates/ucm316375.htm

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                  • sandandsea2015's avatar sandandsea2015 says:
                    July 7, 2016 at 4:29 pm

                    Thanks. The nurse suggested the gargle as well. I don’t have a neti pot but I do have saline spray. Stinks to have to wait until Saturday to get meds. Oh well. My son-in-law had the sore throat and he went in to have his checked, we are all trying to keep the grandbaby from getting it, he was told it was an ear infection and not a throat infection. Very odd! I think we are all passing it back and forth, but miraculously the baby has been fine so far, knock on wood!!!
                    Pls rest and gargle and get to feeling better! I use elderberry, zinc, and vitamin C to ward off sinus/cold stuff, but it’s just kind of kept it at bay a bit. Pretty sure that culture is going to come back with a different strain of strep than what they checked for.

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                  • auscitizenmom's avatar auscitizenmom says:
                    July 7, 2016 at 4:41 pm

                    Okay, back away from the negatives. LOL I looked it up, but I nothing said that the culture is done for different types. It seemed that whatever type you have will be the one to grow. You don’t need to be worrying on top of feeling bad. 😐

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                  • sandandsea2015's avatar sandandsea2015 says:
                    July 7, 2016 at 6:09 pm

                    🙂 Thanks! Will try! Just ready for relief as its sore throat day 6. I hadn’t had a headache and swollen glands until today so I was kind of ignoring it. Hope we both feel better quick! 😉

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                  • auscitizenmom's avatar auscitizenmom says:
                    July 7, 2016 at 7:19 pm

                    I can’t believe our symptoms are so similar. Mine started last Thurs. night. I’m still running a little bit of a fever and my sore throat is just as sore. I did make a discovery today, cold drinks make me cough. I know, pretty dumb to not realize it, huh? I’ve had the slight headache and swollen glands all along. O_o

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                  • sandandsea2015's avatar sandandsea2015 says:
                    July 7, 2016 at 7:38 pm

                    It is weird. Bummer about the cold drinks! Maybe some Breathe tea would work for you. I get it at the health food store. Hubs went through similar issues and had 2 antibiotics and 2 rounds of prednisone along with codeine cough meds to get over it. His had become severe bronchitis. Not fun!

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                  • auscitizenmom's avatar auscitizenmom says:
                    July 7, 2016 at 7:42 pm

                    Tundra was telling me that sometimes this can turn into something that is like asthma and that needs to be treated. I wonder if that is what happened to him along with the bronchitis? Anyway, let’s pray it doesn’t do that to you.

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                  • sandandsea2015's avatar sandandsea2015 says:
                    July 7, 2016 at 7:45 pm

                    That could be. Thanks! I sure don’t want to go through that. He never gets sick, so it was disconcerting.

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                  • auscitizenmom's avatar auscitizenmom says:
                    July 7, 2016 at 7:47 pm

                    She said to watch out for wheezing or shortness of breath. If you have those symptoms, you need to be treated by a doctor. Tundra is a PA.

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                  • auscitizenmom's avatar auscitizenmom says:
                    July 7, 2016 at 7:47 pm

                    It’s sort of strange. I never get sick like this either.

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                  • sandandsea2015's avatar sandandsea2015 says:
                    July 7, 2016 at 7:52 pm

                    My mother gets all conspiracy theory about this kind of stuff! 😉
                    I just have to let her say her peace. Ironically my dad got sick just the same as my hubby and we live hours apart. Things that make you go hmmmm. 🙂

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                  • auscitizenmom's avatar auscitizenmom says:
                    July 7, 2016 at 8:20 pm

                    You gotta wonder sometimes. 😯

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              • The Tundra PA's avatar The Tundra PA says:
                July 7, 2016 at 10:18 pm

                You’re makin’ me smile here, USmom…

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                • auscitizenmom's avatar auscitizenmom says:
                  July 7, 2016 at 10:56 pm

                  You like the knife blade in the side of my throat?

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                  • nyetneetot's avatar nyetneetot says:
                    July 7, 2016 at 11:09 pm

                    LOL

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                  • The Tundra PA's avatar The Tundra PA says:
                    July 7, 2016 at 11:33 pm

                    No, I like that you’re spreading the education.

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                  • auscitizenmom's avatar auscitizenmom says:
                    July 8, 2016 at 12:25 am

                    Just sharing. 🙂 It seems amazing that people across the country have what seems like the same thing.

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                  • Stella's avatar stella says:
                    July 8, 2016 at 8:32 am

                    I don’t think so, considering the way people travel, especially in the summer. It only takes one person to spread it to hundreds of others. The only way to avoid infection is to stay home.

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                  • auscitizenmom's avatar auscitizenmom says:
                    July 8, 2016 at 12:36 am

                    Sandandsea wondered if they had to test for different strains of strep. I figured they just do a test and see what grows. She was concerned that they test for the right strep.

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                  • The Tundra PA's avatar The Tundra PA says:
                    July 8, 2016 at 2:21 pm

                    You are right, USmom. The lab plates the swab, see what grows, and then identify what grew. They then identify the sensitivity of the bacteria that grew by placing dots of different antibiotics on the colony of bacteria and see which one kills off the bacteria. That’s why the long culture is the most accurate.

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                  • auscitizenmom's avatar auscitizenmom says:
                    July 8, 2016 at 2:54 pm

                    I’m so smart. {snort}

                    That is really interesting. I didn’t realize that was actually what they did.

                    When my son was 9, he was exposed to strep. When he developed a sore throat I immediately took him in to the doctor. We saw a PA and she did a culture and gave me a prescription for penicillin and said he should start taking it. I asked her what if it came back negative and she told me to have him stop taking it. I questioned her about taking it for a while and then quitting because I knew that wasn’t good. Oh, and he was homeschooled so that wasn’t a factor. Anyway, she was so insistent, I actually got the prescription but didn’t give it to him. I did that because there were rumors about children being taken away because the parent didn’t do what the doctor wanted and called it negligence. The culture came back negative. He got over it.

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                  • The Tundra PA's avatar The Tundra PA says:
                    July 8, 2016 at 3:11 pm

                    The episode with your son must have been a bunch of years back. These days, the RST (Rapid Strep Test) is so accurate that the false positive rate (test saying it is Strep when it really isn’t) is quite negligible. Most institutions do not do a long culture if the RST is positive, they just treat.

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                  • auscitizenmom's avatar auscitizenmom says:
                    July 8, 2016 at 3:20 pm

                    Yes, that was almost 20 years ago. But, that was the thing, his RST was negative, but she said there were false negatives so she sent it out. She was just so insistent it made me nervous. At another time, she also was insistent that my son have a vaccination, I think it was for chicken pox, but I wouldn’t let him take it until they did a test to see if he had the antibodies, which he did. Every child in my daycare had had chicken pox, except my son. Well, evidently his symptoms were so mild I didn’t know he had had it.

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                  • Stella's avatar stella says:
                    July 8, 2016 at 3:24 pm

                    Sometimes, if you have a mild case, you can get chicken pox again. I know somebody who did, as an adult.

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                  • The Tundra PA's avatar The Tundra PA says:
                    July 8, 2016 at 3:36 pm

                    It has long been standard of care to do a long culture on negative RSTs, because the downside of missing a case of Strep is big; a 20% complication rate of untreated Strep where the complication is a major illness is unacceptable. It is also common to give a prescription at the time of the negative RST so that the patient doesn’t have to come back for a second visit just to get treatment. But the direction SHOULD be: don’t fill the prescription until I call you and tell you that the long culture was positive. Unfortunately, an appalling number of providers (MDs, PAs, NPs) do not understand the rationale for treating Strep and buy into the myth that it is the antibiotics that make you feel better. So they tell patients to start the antibiotics so that if it is Strep you’ll start feeling better quickly, and if it is not Strep you can just quit taking them on the 2nd or 3rd day. You did the right thing with your son to wait for the long culture result.

                    It is not uncommon for chicken pox to be mild enough not to recognize for what it is, but strong enough to confer antibodies. Those are the lucky kids!

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                  • auscitizenmom's avatar auscitizenmom says:
                    July 8, 2016 at 4:16 pm

                    The funny thing was that he had hand, foot, and mouth disease when the others had chickenpox. I called the Dr and he wouldn’t let me bring him in until all his other patients were gone. I said it definitely was not chicken pox. That was really weird. He had gone somewhere with his dad for a couple of hours and was perfectly all right. When he came home he had blister on his hands and when he complained about his feet, I watched the blisters actually swell up on his feet. Very strange.

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                  • Stella's avatar stella says:
                    July 8, 2016 at 3:22 pm

                    Last year I had a dental procedure (tooth was infected), and the dentist prescribed an antibiotic. I took it as instructed, and it was the nastiest stuff! I don’t think I really needed it either, but who knows.

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                  • auscitizenmom's avatar auscitizenmom says:
                    July 8, 2016 at 3:35 pm

                    Well, I understand that infections in the mouth can be pretty dangerous, so I would be open to taking one if needed. That is what I took clindamycin for and found out I was highly allergic to it.

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                  • Stella's avatar stella says:
                    July 8, 2016 at 3:41 pm

                    That’s the stuff I’m talking about. Nasty after affects.

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                  • auscitizenmom's avatar auscitizenmom says:
                    July 8, 2016 at 4:18 pm

                    I was covered all over his 2 in hives, even my palms and the bottom of my feet.

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                  • Stella's avatar stella says:
                    July 8, 2016 at 8:29 am

                    I imagine that you have a bit of a problem convincing people that antibiotics won’t work when the cause is a virus.

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                  • The Tundra PA's avatar The Tundra PA says:
                    July 8, 2016 at 2:16 pm

                    Actually, people have been hammered with the message that “antibiotics don’t work on viruses” for so long that it is pretty much accepted. My problem is “but how do you KNOW it’s a virus? Couldn’t I take some antibiotics just in case it isn’t?” In my patient population (Yup’ik Eskimos) and many others, antibiotics are perceived as a magic bullet that makes everything better. Esoteric problems, like overuse of antibiotics causing antibiotic resistance, are just to abstract to consider.

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                  • auscitizenmom's avatar auscitizenmom says:
                    July 8, 2016 at 2:42 pm

                    I am an absolute believer that antibiotics have been highly overused. But, I can understand people wanting to get better in a snap. When I was little, they gave me shots of penicillin for tonsillitis. I can remember at least once when my throat hurt so I couldn’t swallow and my fever was high and within hours my throat went down and my fever went down. It seemed like a miracle.

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                  • The Tundra PA's avatar The Tundra PA says:
                    July 8, 2016 at 4:33 pm

                    This thread has gotten too skinny to tell who is saying what to whom! Maybe its time to take the discussion to today’s OT.

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    • michellc's avatar michellc says:
      July 7, 2016 at 9:57 am

      Mornin’!

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    • lovely's avatar lovely says:
      July 7, 2016 at 10:37 am

      Good morning Nyet 🙂

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    • MaryfromMarin's avatar MaryfromMarin says:
      July 7, 2016 at 6:55 pm

      I’d like to put in a request for doughnuts one of these days, nyet. When it’s convenient.

      Cinnamon/sugar and granulated sugar ones, for sure. And doughnut holes. Everyone else can have ALL the maple bars and eclairs, and “most” of the chocolate covered doughnuts. (See how hospitable I am?)

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  10. WeeWeed's avatar WeeWeed says:
    July 7, 2016 at 9:34 am

    Mornin’ kids!

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  11. czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
    July 7, 2016 at 10:27 am

    Considering all of the secular cleansing that the Department of Defense is I done snuck over and looked at the DD Form 4 in the DoD forms library. Sho nuff, there it was, the last line in the oath of enlistment every member of every branch of the military takes is still “So help me God”. One wonders how the anti-religion crusaders could have missed that, or maybe Hillary will change it to ‘So help me Gaia’ or ‘So help me Goddess Hillary’. The latter’s a bit clumsy but probably more acceptable to Her.

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  12. Patriot1783's avatar ctdar says:
    July 7, 2016 at 10:49 am

    Comey on hot seat on Capitol Hill

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    • lovely's avatar lovely says:
      July 7, 2016 at 10:57 am

      Watching it now, what a disgrace Comey is, Gowdy and Jordan pilloried him.

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    • lovely's avatar lovely says:
      July 7, 2016 at 11:36 am

      Wow! Wow! Rep Mark Meadows backed Comey into a corner and Comey brought up the word “perjury” all on his own.

      This is really making Comey look corrupt and Hillary look corrupt and incompetent.

      And some nitwit DC fool asked Comey what is the lesson we should learn form “What Hillary has gone through.”

      Comey answered straight faced as a doctor giving a death sentence to a person whose life had just started by saying that he hopes people learn that no one should use a private email for confidential emails. 🙄

      Our leaders are exactly who our forefathers warned us they would become if we became a nation of men rather than laws.

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      • Stella's avatar stella says:
        July 7, 2016 at 11:45 am

        I’m watching, but don’t know how much longer I can stand it.

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        • lovely's avatar lovely says:
          July 7, 2016 at 11:50 am

          Comey is rattled. It may be worth sticking around.

          Comey “There is evidence of mishandling there is not evidence of intent.”

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        • lovely's avatar lovely says:
          July 7, 2016 at 11:56 am

          Both Gowdy and Jordan laid out clearly that the legal definition of “intent” had been more than reasonably met.

          Comey is almost using the “intent clause” as a defense attorney would use it in an insanity defense, this is pure idiocy that Comey and the democrats are asking us to accept.

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        • Pam's avatar Pam says:
          July 7, 2016 at 12:58 pm

          My husband has been watching and listening with headphones on, so I’m getting little exciting updates about what this or that one just said. I used to watch these things, with Issa, then with Gowdy and others, asking all those tough questions and pontificating. I used to root for the “good” guys when they would make their devastating points. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I can’t remember anything real ever happening as a result of all these hearings. All I can remember is threats that something substantive would happen, or one investigative hearing would spin off into more investigative hearings. Meanwhile, the politicians are filmed looking tough and providing good video for political ads and GOP talking points, great stuff to be used when it’s time for their next election.

          I thought Issa was a great guy, years ago. He did put on a really good show with his hearings. I was on twitter back then. One day, after watching him again and then seeing him tweet something, I responded and said something like “Why don’t you all just stop talking and actually DO something!” I was beginning to feel very frustrated. He actually answered me, politely, but I don’t remember what he said. I was still so into wanting to believe in them that I later felt very guilty. I had snarked at one of the good guys. I actually sent an apology tweet. This hearing today, and watching my husband getting excited about the questioning, really pointed out to me how much I have changed. I spent years watching this stuff, but my husband was working 10-hour days and never had the time to watch long hearings. I kept him informed. One day, if I remember correctly, it was just like the saying: “the straw that broke the camel’s back.” After endless occasions of getting my hopes up and believing what these people said and their implied promises of action, I just stopped.

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  13. Stella's avatar stella says:
    July 7, 2016 at 11:15 am

    Briefly watch a panel discussion on our local Fox channel about the Hillary debacle. Lots of talk about “criminal intent” (all agreeing, of course). I changed the channel.

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  14. The Tundra PA's avatar The Tundra PA says:
    July 7, 2016 at 2:24 pm

    Trump rally!

    – Friday, July 08, 2016 –
    Miami, FL

    Doubletree Hotel – The Royal Poinciana Hotel Ballroom
    2:30 PM

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  15. tessa50's avatar tessa50 says:
    July 7, 2016 at 8:20 pm

    Hi everyone! Have a good night and if you are in the hot areas, stay cool.

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  16. lovely's avatar lovely says:
    July 7, 2016 at 10:20 pm

    Son of a b@$%^& Two police officers shot at a BLM rally. Filthy animals.

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  17. lovely's avatar lovely says:
    July 7, 2016 at 10:39 pm

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  18. czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
    July 7, 2016 at 11:02 pm

    Scattered reports from Dallas that two police officers monitoring honoring the muckraking inducements to riot from Louidiana and Minnesota governors (both liberal Democrats) and out
    POtuS. Officers were monitoring Black Lives Matter protest when they were shot, no eord on their conditions.
    Raw reporting says one says one suspect in custody andbpolice are looking for a second shoter dressed in tactical gear with a bulletproof vest.
    Yet another example of innocent and otherwise peaceful members of society forced into prosctive biolence by whute authoritarian perfidy! Or animals protesting being treated like animals by resorting to animalistic behavior – your choice. Obama and his adherents trying to get those before the Conventions.

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    • lovely's avatar lovely says:
      July 7, 2016 at 11:07 pm

      Reports that the LE is engaged in talks with one of the shooters and one shooter was taken into custody.

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      • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
        July 7, 2016 at 11:12 pm

        Maybe he can get Obama to have his case transferred to Federal jurisdiction and thevFBI to investigate it.
        Any bets if the shooter(s) are black whether their cases will be tried in Federal court as civil rights violations of the officers?

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        • lovely's avatar lovely says:
          July 7, 2016 at 11:15 pm

          I hope they don’t make it to a court room.

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          • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
            July 7, 2016 at 11:20 pm

            I understand the sentiment but it’s important to get the animals in front of the justice system and let the chops and sentiments fall where they may. They turds will serve ad catalysts that will help crystalize sides, no longer will closet racists like Obama get to talk in veiled threats, code words and half truths, whipping up these deadly and violent attacks, then claim ‘I din’ do nuffin’!’

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            • lovely's avatar lovely says:
              July 7, 2016 at 11:29 pm

              There is no use in putting savages into the court system, these people will never believe that they did anything wrong nor will their supporters. Our court system was made for a civilized society, their culture bears no resemblance to civilization.

              I admire your dispassion though. You are a better person than me.

              Confirmed 3 transportation officers shot and have non-life threatening injuries, one officer is dead.

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            • lovely's avatar lovely says:
              July 7, 2016 at 11:44 pm

              To further illustrate my point some wretched savage she beast was just spouting off and acting indignant that the police took a BLM thug into custody because he was wearing a flack jacket. Honest to God she was pissed off because there was no reason for the police to make him put his arms up just because he was dressed for war.

              Truly I will have to go to confession. I do not care if every one of the thugs and every one of the people that think like this she beast are removed from earth. They are evil in mind body heart and soul redeemable only by god but they are truly hateful evil dangerous sub-human cretins.

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              • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
                July 8, 2016 at 12:24 am

                This thing will not come to a head one way or another as long as we allow the engineers to continue managing the narrative. We need to get the players into an open court where the Feds will sjow their mollycoddling of neo-revolutionaries, let their hate agenda spill out and have the public either surrender or demand a full fumigation of these vermin.

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      • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
        July 7, 2016 at 11:38 pm

        Good idea, it’s Texas, find out if he wants the needle or the firing squad…..

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    • michellc's avatar michellc says:
      July 7, 2016 at 11:08 pm

      My SIL said tonight that these BLM protests and mass shootings sure do always happen at convenient times for folks like Obama and Hillary.
      My daughter told him that he sure was starting to sound like the conspiracy theorist he calls her. lol

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  19. lovely's avatar lovely says:
    July 7, 2016 at 11:59 pm

    Fox just showed a picture of one of the suspects that they received from LE. The barbarian is black and has the freaky little muslim shaved beard. There is also an active bomb threat according to LE.

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  20. czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
    July 8, 2016 at 12:30 am

    Been talking tonite to friends still in uniform – they’re nervous and place the blame squarely on the shooters.
    Those of us old enough to remember black revolutionaries in the late 60s/early 70s see a redux. Remember the Weather Underground Organization? Remember their ‘kill the pigs’ program? Remember Obama’s buddy Ayers…and how about Dohrn? Starting to see a connection?

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    • Stella's avatar stella says:
      July 8, 2016 at 8:34 am

      Black panthers are making a comeback. Did you see the black “representatives” yesterday, questioning Comey about what he plans to do about police shootings of innocent black people? The assumption is always that the police are the bad folks – and that goes all the way up to the White House.

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