General Discussion, Sunday, July 3, 2016

Posted on July 3, 2016 by Stella

WashingtontakescommandJuly 3, 1775, George Washington takes command of the Continental Army at Cambridge, Massachusetts.

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  1. czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
    July 3, 2016 at 12:33 am

    Oh no, this ‘missing Mary’ thing’s starting to get scary….

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  2. SwissMike (formerly ZurichMike)'s avatar ZurichMike says:
    July 3, 2016 at 1:46 am

    Breakfast: (eggs and Tater Tots wrapped in bacon)

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  3. Stella's avatar stella says:
    July 3, 2016 at 2:04 am

    Sharyl Attkisson is Right: Mexican Cartels Have Infiltrated U.S. Military, Federal Agencies

    http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2016/06/26/sharyl-attkisson-right-mexican-cartels-infiltrated-u-s-military-federal-agencies/

    Veteran journalist extraordinaire Sharyl Attkisson made the shocking assertion that Mexican cartels have infiltrated the U.S. military and U.S. law enforcement agencies–and she is correct. Her assertion is backed up by years of Breitbart Texas reports showing that some U.S. soldiers have worked for cartel efforts to smuggle humans and drugs and that far too many in U.S. federal law enforcement agencies have fallen into working for Mexican cartels. …

    There is much, much, more.

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    • Col.(R) Ken's avatar Col.(R) Ken says:
      July 3, 2016 at 4:00 am

      Have seen this at major Army training sites along the border. Late ’90s Ft.Irwin CA was noted for the Irwin “500” east of the whaleback. It’s the quick buck that draws many, or family, relatives. We need a house cleaning in January 2017!!!!

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    • Col.(R) Ken's avatar Col.(R) Ken says:
      July 3, 2016 at 4:18 am

      Stella, great lead in with General Washington. I have read many accounts, including Washington’s, on his taking Command of the Army. The issues were major, and minor due to Washington’s diligents most were solved within a short time, and some still plagued the Military today. Turning this mob into an effect fighting force was a task…… Thanks General Washington.

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    • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
      July 3, 2016 at 10:58 am

      Nothing new here, major US gangs (Latin Kings, Crips, Bloods, MS-13 and others) had been sending members into the military for years to get access to training, arms, ammunition, explosives and equipment. There are new gangs still taking that route.
      It’s an issue kept under wraps until someone from the outside raises it (a favorite MSM or Congressional topic during otherwise slow times) and boilerplate answers are kept on tap like cold beer. Next one to come up eventually is: have domestic Moslem terrorists sent recruits into the military for training and access to materials? An issue that NATO’s also toying with.

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  4. MaryfromMarin's avatar MaryfromMarin says:
    July 3, 2016 at 3:07 am

    Something I just read…comments?

    [from “Touchstone” magazine] [bolding, my emphasis]

    “…The death-irony of the United States of America is that it was founded on the principle of the worthiness, the value and dignity, of every human being, so that all deserve from birth the right to live in freedom. It is on this very principle that it shall die, for because all men are sinners who cannot manage it, freedom, with its endowing Creator effectively removed, is only another name for chaos. The inevitable weakness that follows is why a state founded on liberty that has rejected God is vulnerable to its enemies: natural and supernatural causality meet and kiss in its demise. This is something the jihadists know.”

    –S. M. Hutchens, Senior Editor–

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    • Col.(R) Ken's avatar Col.(R) Ken says:
      July 3, 2016 at 4:08 am

      Mary, welcome back!!! Great comments. This might be known at the strategic level of jihadist policy level. My belief is the average jihadist doesn’t concern him/her self with the “long war” policy, only his/her part in the war.

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    • doodahdaze's avatar Howie says:
      July 3, 2016 at 5:49 am

      They ain’t got us yet.

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    • Menagerie's avatar Menagerie says:
      July 3, 2016 at 6:51 am

      I had a brilliant reply Mary. It was a masterpiece of thought and language, and outstanding logic. WordPress or my iPad ate it, and with me, brilliance if fleeting. 😀

      We’ve been missing you, hope your vacation is fantastic!

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    • nyetneetot's avatar nyetneetot says:
      July 3, 2016 at 8:44 am

      …
      I may observe, in the first place, and I beg it may be particularly attended to, that in all those villainous machinations against the peace of the world, the attack has been first made on the principles of Morality and Religion. The conspirators saw that till these are extirpated, they have no chance of success; and their manner of proceeding chews that they consider Religion and Morality as inseparably connected together. We learn much from this–Fas est et ab hoste doceri.–They endeavour to destroy our religious sentiments, by first corrupting our morals. They try to inflame our passions, that when the demands from this quarter become urgent, the restraints of Religion may immediately come in sight, and stand in the way. They are careful, on this occasion, to give such a view of those restraints, that the real origin of them does not appear.–We are made to believe that they have been altogether the contrivance of Priests and despots, in order to get the command of us.
      …

      — PROOFS OF A CONSPIRACY AGAINST ALL THE RELIGIONS AND GOVERNMENTS OF EUROPE, CARRIED ON IN THE SECRET MEETINGS OF FREE MASONS, ILLUMINATI, AND READING SOCIETIES, COLLECTED FROM GOOD AUTHORITIES, BY JOHN ROBISON, A. M. PROFESSOR OF NATURAL PHILOSOPHY, AND SECRETARY TO THE ROYAL SOCIETY OF EDINBURGH. (1798)

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    • Pam's avatar Pam says:
      July 3, 2016 at 10:43 am

      My mind is constantly revolving around the ideas expressed in this statement. When i try to understand or make any sense at all about what I see in our country, society, the world, government, politics, even religion, I keep coming back to some form of these thoughts. I believe that the alteration and decline of intellectual and spiritual thought concerning the idea of “freedom” has brought crisis and chaos to people as individuals, as societies, to our country, the world, and even to churches.

      I agree with this author: “Freedom, with its endowing Creator effectively removed, is only another name for chaos.” And why? Because man cannot manage freedom without his endowing Creator. I don’t think I agree, however, with his statement about jihadists. I’m not sure what his thought process is on that last statement.

      I have just begun studying a summary of a course given for decades at the Dominican University in Rome by a 20th-century theologian, Reginald Garrigou-Lagrange, O.P.: The Three Ages of the Interior Life. When you posted this, Mary, I had been reading the Part 1 Introduction of the course, which discuses “The One Thing Necessary.” The whole discussion is excellent, but fairly long. I tried to pull out the shortest possible sections, which speak directly to your post imo.

      “…but the question of the interior life is being more sharply raised today than in several periods less troubled than ours. The explanation of this interest lies in the fact that many men have separated themselves from God and tried to organize intellectual and social life without Him. The great problems that have always preoccupied humanity have taken on a new and sometimes tragic aspect. To wish to get along without God, first Cause and last End, leads to an abyss; not only to nothingness, but also to physical and moral wretchedness that is worse than noth­ingness. Likewise, great problems grow exasperatingly serious, and man must finally perceive that all these problems ultimately lead to the fundamental religious problem; in other words, he will finally have to declare himself entirely for God or against Him.”

      “…When man will no longer fulfill his great religious duties toward God who created him and who is his last End, he makes a religion for himself since he absolutely cannot get along without religion. To replace the superior ideal which he has abandoned, man may, for example, place his religion in science or in the cult of social justice or in some human ideal, which finally he considers in a religious manner and even in a mystical manner.”

      “It has often been remarked that today science pretends to be a religion. Likewise socialism and communism claim to be a code of ethics and present themselves under the guise of a feverish cult of justice, thereby trying to captivate hearts and minds. As a matter of fact, the modern scholar seems to have a scrupulous devotion to the scientific method. He cultivates it to such a degree that he often seems to prefer the method of research to the truth.”

      “…The present world-wide economic crisis demonstrates what men can do when they seek to get along without God.”

      “Without God, the seriousness of life gets out of focus. If religion is no longer a grave matter but something to smile at, then the serious element in life must be sought elsewhere. Some place it, or pretend to place it, in science or in social activity; they devote the(m)selves religiously to the search for scientific truth or to the establishment of justice between classes or peoples. After a while they are forced to perceive that they have ended in fearful disorder and that the relations between individuals and nations become more and more difficult, if not impossible…”

      http://www.christianperfection.info/tta2.php#bk1

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      • MaryfromMarin's avatar MaryfromMarin says:
        July 4, 2016 at 1:53 am

        Excellent comments, Pam. I need to read them over again, and look at the link (just arrived home an hour ago, so am busy checking on cats, unpacking, starting laundry, etc.)

        Thank you for giving me something else to sink my teeth into.

        BTW, the jihadist comment threw me also for a while, but finally DID make sense–for a few moments! Then didn’t again…I’ll try to regain that moment of clarity and post it.

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  5. Ad rem's avatar Ad rem says:
    July 3, 2016 at 3:17 am

    *Sniff*….looks like Frosty made his own bucket list. 🙂

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  6. doodahdaze's avatar Howie says:
    July 3, 2016 at 4:48 am

    Donald Trump’s trade speech this week was an eye-opener for me. It was the first time a politician spoke realistically about trade policy, instead of the globalist nostrums we’ve heard from both parties for decades. Plus: he spoke knowledgeably about using enforcement tools that are already available under U.S. law – tools that, frankly, administrations of both parties have avoided using.
    http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/01/why-trump-is-right-on-trade/

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    • Stella's avatar stella says:
      July 3, 2016 at 5:35 am

      That made an impression on me too.

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      • doodahdaze's avatar Howie says:
        July 3, 2016 at 5:44 am

        I think trade is one of Trumps best “cards” to play. The other best one is the illegal immigration card and how it takes jobs and benefits away from citizens and legal immigrants. We get no benefit from illegal immigration. He will triangulate the democrats by not wanting to cut social security and the “safety net” plus going after the 1%. It all ties in nicely. He will not have to defend Bush and the republicans. I really think he can do it.

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  7. Menagerie's avatar Menagerie says:
    July 3, 2016 at 6:57 am

    Happy Sunday everyone. I went to mass last night at a little church on the very edge of Chickamauga Battlefield. The final song was The Battle Hymn of the Republic. I sang from memory, and whispered an apology to the fallen rebels resting nearby. It was a fine fitting song to leave mass and take into the rest of this holiday weekend.

    God bless America, please.

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  8. nyetneetot's avatar nyetneetot says:
    July 3, 2016 at 8:02 am

    Mornin’ stella! (Smiter of those that ought to be smote) 😎 🍸 (Long Island Iced Tea)
    Mornin’ WeeWeed! (Master Mixologist Extrodinare) 😎 🍸 (Old Fashioned)
    Mornin’ Menagerie! 😎 |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| (Jack Daniels)
    Mornin’ Ad rem! (Queen Felis catus) 🐱 🍸 (Flaming Lamborghini)
    Mornin’ Sharon! 😎 🍸 (earthquake)
    Mornin’ ytz4mee! 😎 🍸 (cosmopolitan)
    Mornin’ partyzantski! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ texan59! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ ZurichMike! 🙂 🍸 (fuzzy navel)
    Mornin’ Col.(R) Ken! (hand salute) 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ czarowniczy! 🙂 |_| ( and Czarina 🙂 🍸 )
    Mornin’ letjusticeprevail2014! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ ctdar! 🙂 🍸 (grasshopper)
    Mornin’ tessa50! 🙂 🍸 (flaming volcano)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! 🙂 🍸 (sidecar)
    Mornin’ varsityward! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ MaryfromMarin! 😀 |_| (Mortlach)
    Mornin’ Wooly Phlox! (aka “taqiyyologist”) 🙂 |_| (Roy Rogers)
    Mornin’ Howie! 🙂 |_| (Classic Daiquiri)
    Mornin’ TwoLaine! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ Sha! 🙂 🍸 (Lemon Drop)
    Mornin’ BigMamaTEA! 🙂 🍸 (Harvey Wallbanger)
    Mornin’ cetera5! (aka “Cetera”) 🙂 |_| (Blackberry wine)
    Mornin’ The Tundra PA! 🙂 🍸 (bailey irish cream on the rocks)
    Mornin’ lovely! 🙂 |_| (Backdraft)
    Mornin’ michellc! 🙂 🍸 (Salty dog)
    Mornin’ auscitizenmom! 🙂 🍸 (Kiss on the Lips)
    Mornin’ Margaret-Ann! 🙂 🍸 (White Russian)
    Mornin’ Auntie Lib! 🙂 🍸 (Tom and Jerry)
    Mornin’ holly100! 🙂 🍸
    Mornin’ Pam! 🙂
    Mornin’ ImpeachEmAll 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ Monroe! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ Les! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ shiloh1973! 🙂 |_| (Jack Daniels)
    Mornin’ TexasRanger! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ Ziiggii! 🙂 |_| (B52)
    Mornin’ oldiadguy! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ smiley! (“stuck in spambucket”) 🙂 🍸 (Spanish coffee)
    Mornin’ derk! (“Stellars”) 🙂 🍸 (Mudslide)
    Mornin’ Jacqueline Taylor Robson 🙂 🍸 (Shirley Temple)
    Mornin’ facebkwallflower! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ Ms. Cindy! (aka “Ms Cynlynn” aka “ms cynlynn”) 🙂 🍸
    Mornin’ sandandsea2015! 🙂 🍸
    Mornin’ whiners and complainers! ⭐ 😛 (No drink for you!)
    Mornin’ to people posting that I missed. 😳
    Mornin’ to all you lurkers! 😕

    Also just in case someday; mornin’ to Elvis Chupacabra and F.D.R. in Hell! :mrgreen:

    Breakfast!

    NEW and IMPROVED breakfast with extra bacon for ZurichMike!

    Pastries for coffee!

    ⭐ = Unprintable phallic symbol

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  9. Menagerie's avatar Menagerie says:
    July 3, 2016 at 8:37 am

    Stella! Your site doesn’t like me today. Or maybe the Men In Black are zapping my comments. The last one had no post comment button, a fact I noticed only after I typed my comment out.

    Should people over 65 be allowed to vote even though it’s not their future? Question I saw on Quora. What is there to say?

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    • auscitizenmom's avatar auscitizenmom says:
      July 3, 2016 at 8:42 am

      So, those who have earned some wisdom shouldn’t vote? Wow! That the idea has even been thought of. SMH

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    • nyetneetot's avatar nyetneetot says:
      July 3, 2016 at 8:50 am

      The idea would be to remove people who have woken up after years of self inflicted experience.

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    • Stella's avatar stella says:
      July 3, 2016 at 10:00 am

      Answer from FB the other day:

      Wretchard T. Cat

      Standing outside a university café, after a night of celebration following her final exam, 19-year-old (Oxford) medical student Evie Rothwell said she was feeling a sense of “betrayal” this morning.

      “A really important decision was made for us by the older generation,” she explained, noting that exit polls showed that three-quarters of voters aged 18 to 24 wanted to remain in the EU. By contrast, more than 60 percent of seniors aged 65+ voted to leave.

      “Essentially people much, much older than us — and who won’t be around for the consequences — are giving us a future we don’t want,” added Jack Lennard, who just finished his undergraduate degree in archeology and anthropology.

      http://www.vox.com/…/brexit-youth-voters-wanted-britain-rem…

      To which one might reply:

      “Essentially people much older than you gave you what you now take for granted. They won World War 2, fueled the great boom, walked through the valley of the shadow of nuclear death — and had you.

      You didn’t make the present, nor as you now complain, are you making the future. No children, no national defense, no love of God or country.

      But that’s just it. You’ve brainwashed yourselves into thinking someone else: the old, the older, the government, the dead would always do things for you.

      If you learn anything from Brexit, learn that nobody got anywhere expecting someone to do things for him.”

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    • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
      July 3, 2016 at 11:20 am

      From what my doc said last week Medicare’s trying to prevent people over 75 from living. I thought it was just the doc’s crankiness when, a few months back, he said that we’re doing yoo much for my Mom, thay he wouldn’t do as much as we were if she were his. Then another doc said that now, once you hit 90 and you’re stable, they don’t ‘interfere’ or do anything proactive. Now my new doc’s saying I should get these and other tests done as Medicare won’t pay for these proactive tests after a certain age.

      Brought to you by the Federal Medicare Death Panel:

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      • Pam's avatar Pam says:
        July 4, 2016 at 2:10 pm

        Yes, I believe it. The doctors are being indoctrinated, because the government has seen for years that the aging baby boomers are going to be a huge drain and a really big problem for them. I’m not even 70 yet, and I’ve already been told that I shouldn’t get a mammogram every year (the thing they have drilled into women for decades now – get a yearly mammogram!!) If Medicare and insurance hasn’t already cut off paying for these things when people reach a certain age, I expect they will get around to it soon.

        I take a very expensive medicine for RA. I don’t know what the cost is today, but a few years ago it was still around $1000 per weekly shot. I wonder how long it will be before they cut off my insurance benefits for this medication. Medical ethics is not what it used to be.

        I already see younger people who work and pay taxes complaining about sick baby boomers sucking up all the money for medical care. They don’t seem to realize or care that most of us paid those Social Security taxes and paid for medical insurance all our lives, or that people like you, who served our country in the military, are entitled to any consideration. In their minds, we’re old and useless and will now be leeching off the rest of them.

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  10. auscitizenmom's avatar auscitizenmom says:
    July 3, 2016 at 9:12 am

    Get your “Hillary Clinton killed my friends” t-shirts and bumper stickers.

    http://myinforms.com/en-us/a/37659416-former-navy-seal-tej-gill-explains-8216hillary-clinton-killed-my-friends8217-t-shirts/

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  11. WeeWeed's avatar WeeWeed says:
    July 3, 2016 at 9:55 am

    Mornin’ hippies!

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  12. Stella's avatar stella says:
    July 3, 2016 at 10:27 am

    Giggles from FB this morning:

    We have some evergreens that are a little brown. I said to the Home Depot guy here that John Adams said that the tree of liberty should be fertilized with the blood of patriots and asked whether he had any.

    The guy said it wasn’t meant to be taken literally so we bought some Scott’s stuff instead.

    I think deep down I knew that but I wanted to give the poor kid a chance to actually use his history degree.

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    • Col.(R) Ken's avatar Col.(R) Ken says:
      July 3, 2016 at 11:35 am

      Stella, this guy might have responded if this was said: My tree of Liberty is a little brown, Sam Adams once said, the Tree of Liberty needs to be refreshed with the Pee of Patriots, Do you have any Pee fertilizer?

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      • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
        July 3, 2016 at 12:02 pm

        “Yessir, we do, just go over to our Political Fertilizer department where the Party of your choice will pee on your shoes and call it fertilizer!”

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  13. oldiadguy's avatar oldiadguy says:
    July 3, 2016 at 1:05 pm

    “Soldier Light ” a message from those they left at home.

    Take Care

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  14. Menagerie's avatar Menagerie says:
    July 3, 2016 at 1:59 pm

    Menagerie’s Fourth of July menu: Pinto beans cooked with a ham bone, mashed potatoes, fried okra, fried squash, squash casserole. corn pudding, cornbread salad, buttermilk cornbread, sliced homegrown (not by me) tomatoes, tomato pie, the last of Aunt Ruby’s famous chow chow, God probably can’t get her to rest, she made it right before she died at 92, and for dessert, what has become my all time favorite dessert to make because it’s so much fun, aebleskivers, pineapple upside down cake and a mystery dessert from another family member. Fresh squeezed lemonade, Grandmother’s not to be beat recipe, with about half the sugar she liked.

    I don’t have to cook it all, and a brother in law will bring the big ole’ bottle of Jack. The end. Eat your heart out barbeque peeps, we are feasting down South style. Ain’t nothing better than fresh vegetables with a pot of beans.

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  15. doodahdaze's avatar Howie says:
    July 3, 2016 at 4:11 pm

    After watching these videos, one suspects the American left would vote for Al Capone if he ran as a Democrat.

    Hillary Clinton espionage problems headed for a crescendo?

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  16. czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
    July 3, 2016 at 5:18 pm

    There I was, digging through the hard liquor stocks in the pantry, looking for leftover fireworks when I found my old Army novelty icectra. It makes ice cubes shaped like hand grenades, and now the GGS will have yet another eye-roll story to share next year in the ‘what I did this summer’ sessions.
    Haven’t even got to the ‘I got my very own gun’ part yet. Then, considering his school’s demographics, he probably is behind the curve.

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  17. WeeWeed's avatar WeeWeed says:
    July 3, 2016 at 9:11 pm

    I’ve spent the day doing…….. nothing. But! I turned up this moldy goldie for ya’s! (Watch the falsetto……)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGp1a4O29oI

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