General Discussion, Wednesday, June 29, 2016

PatrickHenryOn this day in 1776 The Virginia Constitution was adopted, and Patrick Henry became Governor.

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  1. czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:

    While we were looking elsewhere the Russians have been moving back to Nicaragua. Ortega II is on the rise, he ‘bought’ 50 T-72 tanks from Russia and Russia’s establishing an electronic intelligence gathering facility in Nicaragua, same as their old now-Chinese-occupied electronic intel facility in Lourdes, Cuba.
    So that’s what Hillary was doing with that reset button’, resetting our position with Russia back to 1985.

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  2. nyetneetot's avatar nyetneetot says:

    I’m not buying it but it would be very exciting to read:

    The Accomplisht Cook ~ ROBERT MAY ~ 1685 ~ First English Cookbook ~ Accomplished
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Accomplisht-Cook-ROBERT-MAY-1685-First-English-Cookbook-Accomplished-/331321273072?hash=item4d24496af0:g:h3kAAOSwQItUF7sb

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    • WeeWeed's avatar WeeWeed says:

      That sure is in good shape for a real first edition…. reckon that’s the original cover?

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      • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:

        Says ‘contemporary binding’ and new end papers so it looks as if it’s on the rebound.

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      • nyetneetot's avatar nyetneetot says:

        As czar wrote, it’s a newer binding. We have a shop here in Seattle that restores old books. Something like that could cost as much as a couple of thousand depending upon how labor is involved in restoring.

        I think I read it was the 5th edition/printing. The last one made in the author’s lifetime.

        Always remember; from the first millennium, lots of common people could read and write and had books and magazines. What they didn’t have was toilet paper. That’s why family information is written in bibles. Everything else could easy get “lost”.

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        • WeeWeed's avatar WeeWeed says:

          It’s the first one that I’ve seen (that old) that has the pages all evenly sized – I have a few that have different sized pages. Of course, I’m sure that my crummy old books were inexpensive even at the time. ( Kinda like a “good” antique – they were expensive (proportionately) at the time.)

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  3. Morning Stella, czar, Nyet, and ImpeachEmAll!

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  4. WeeWeed's avatar WeeWeed says:

    Mornin’ kids!

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  5. czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:

    Mornin’ y’all, great two days of jes rite rain, hope to get fertilizer out and have just enough more to melt it in.
    Economy must not be bouncing back like POtuS says it is, two early morning robbers at a fast food franchise just outside of New Orleans couldn’t afford a gun so they used a knife instead and stabbed the manager multiple times. Manager’s in unstable and critical condition, wounds to the face and neck, and as she was there for a very early morning carpet cleaning it doesn’t look the robber/stabber got any cash. No description on the perp but beer bets abound.

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  6. nyetneetot's avatar nyetneetot says:

    Mornin’ stella! (Smiter of those that ought to be smote) 😎 🍸 (Long Island Iced Tea)
    Mornin’ WeeWeed! (Master Mixologist Extrodinare) 😎 🍸 (Old Fashioned)
    Mornin’ Menagerie! 😎 |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| (Jack Daniels)
    Mornin’ Ad rem! (Queen Felis catus) 🐱 🍸 (Flaming Lamborghini)
    Mornin’ Sharon! 😎 🍸 (earthquake)
    Mornin’ ytz4mee! 😎 🍸 (cosmopolitan)
    Mornin’ partyzantski! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ texan59! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ ZurichMike! 🙂 🍸 (fuzzy navel)
    Mornin’ Col.(R) Ken! (hand salute) 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ czarowniczy! 🙂 |_| ( and Czarina 🙂 🍸 )
    Mornin’ letjusticeprevail2014! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ ctdar! 🙂 🍸 (grasshopper)
    Mornin’ tessa50! 🙂 🍸 (flaming volcano)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! 🙂 🍸 (sidecar)
    Mornin’ varsityward! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ MaryfromMarin! 😀 |_| (Mortlach)
    Mornin’ Wooly Phlox! (aka “taqiyyologist”) 🙂 |_| (Roy Rogers)
    Mornin’ Howie! 🙂 |_| (Classic Daiquiri)
    Mornin’ TwoLaine! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ Sha! 🙂 🍸 (Lemon Drop)
    Mornin’ BigMamaTEA! 🙂 🍸 (Harvey Wallbanger)
    Mornin’ cetera5! (aka “Cetera”) 🙂 |_| (Blackberry wine)
    Mornin’ The Tundra PA! 🙂 🍸 (bailey irish cream on the rocks)
    Mornin’ lovely! 🙂 |_| (Backdraft)
    Mornin’ michellc! 🙂 🍸 (Salty dog)
    Mornin’ auscitizenmom! 🙂 🍸 (Kiss on the Lips)
    Mornin’ Margaret-Ann! 🙂 🍸 (White Russian)
    Mornin’ Auntie Lib! 🙂 🍸 (Tom and Jerry)
    Mornin’ holly100! 🙂 🍸
    Mornin’ Pam! 🙂
    Mornin’ ImpeachEmAll 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ Monroe! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ Les! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ shiloh1973! 🙂 |_| (Jack Daniels)
    Mornin’ TexasRanger! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ Ziiggii! 🙂 |_| (B52)
    Mornin’ oldiadguy! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ smiley! (“stuck in spambucket”) 🙂 🍸 (Spanish coffee)
    Mornin’ derk! (“Stellars”) 🙂 🍸 (Mudslide)
    Mornin’ Jacqueline Taylor Robson 🙂 🍸 (Shirley Temple)
    Mornin’ facebkwallflower! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ Ms. Cindy! (aka “Ms Cynlynn” aka “ms cynlynn”) 🙂 🍸
    Mornin’ sandandsea2015! 🙂 🍸
    Mornin’ whiners and complainers! ⭐ 😛 (No drink for you!)
    Mornin’ to people posting that I missed. 😳
    Mornin’ to all you lurkers! 😕

    Also just in case someday; mornin’ to Elvis Chupacabra and F.D.R. in Hell! :mrgreen:

    Breakfast!

    NEW and IMPROVED breakfast with extra bacon for ZurichMike!

    Pastries for coffee!

    = Unprintable phallic symbol

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  7. auscitizenmom's avatar auscitizenmom says:

    “This ‘Insane’ Woman Gives Her Doctor A Drawing… And He Immediately Realizes The Shocking Truth.”
    ?Modern medicine, for all its wonderful qualities, is still very much a work in progress. Even the most highly skilled doctors can completely misdiagnose a condition, and when they do, the consequences can be severe.”

    http://boredomtherapy.com/brain-damage-clock/?pas=1&as=701aol&bdk=b701aol

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    • nyetneetot's avatar nyetneetot says:

      ….And He Immediately Realizes The Shocking Truth.

      He realizes he’s going to be able to double submit her insurance claims and go on that vacation on the Yucatán Peninsula this year after all.

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    • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:

      Mybwife’s treated stroke victims whose initial symptoms were misdiagnosed, it makes us nervous. She’s made sure that if we’re admitted to a local hospital with possible stroke symptoms the neurologist she works with will be notified. We don’t have much of a choice if we’re put on an ambulance or med chopper as to where we go, decision’s made by the flight nurse and it seems they have a sweetheart deal with a certain hospital Some 45 miles north. Problem is our med records are at a hosputal 45 miles south and the hosputal to the north doesn’t talk to the hosputal south.
      BTW, take a look at: http://www.leapfroggroup.org/compare-hospitals and see your hospital’s ratings in several vital areas. That is, if they even dared respond.

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      • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:

        Those Leapfrog HOSPITAL (thought I’d get that out of the way early) ratings are interesting. They are totally voluntary and cover specific patient safety areas, one would presume that hosputals would want patients to see how and what they are doing in these areas.
        What I’ve noticed is that the hospitals that have been rated higher over the last few years and lower rated ones that have been working at raising their ratings reply to the surveys sent out. A number of those rated lower, or with not-so-bad ratings but deficient in important areas, have stopped responding. Makes me wonder what, if anything, they’re doing to remedy these deficiencies and how their actions vis-a-vis the ratings mightnplay out in a malpractice suit.

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      • Stella's avatar stella says:

        The best hospitals in my immediate vicinity declined to respond.

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        • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:

          By comparing older ratings we saved it apoears thevlower rated ones here refused to respobd while the higher rated ones did. Lower rated ones were generally lower rated on the basis of direct patient safety…I can see why they didn’t want the specifics posted.

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    • Pam's avatar Pam says:

      This is a great example of one of my biggest “hot topics.” Doctors are still pioneers in the field of medicine when it comes to the brain. This young woman apparently lives in New York, and she had what I would call a miracle, in that she was successfully diagnosed eventually. This rare autoimmune disease had only been discovered 3 years before she was diagnosed. The doctor who diagnosed her said that only 10% of people are being correctly diagnosed, and I would even question that number. Three years is not long enough for something as unusual as this to be disseminated throughout the medical world.

      Before she was hospitalized (when she finally whacked out and got violent), she had been diagnosed with bipolar disorder, so they probably gave her drugs for that. Bipolar is another catch-all diagnosis doctors will use for younger people and adults, when they don’t really know what the heck is going on. They did this to my son and put him on strong meds. The meds made him worse. We had no way of knowing that it was the meds. It wasn’t until we discovered his birth mother had bashed his head against walls, and done other things, when he was a baby, leaving him with frontal lobe brain damage, that we finally learned the truth. He was 18 by then, and a research psychiatrist who had worked at NIH, then gone into private practice, put it together, since there’s no test. My son had gone to live with his birth mother, who is insane, and a relative told him what his mother had done to him. This particular psychiatrist, because he is highly specialized, was able to figure it out, and immediately took him off all those meds. My son had become so psycho that he was doing really scary things. There is no way of knowing whether his life would have been better during those years without all that strong medicine, but I believe it would have been. There is no drug treatment for his kind of brain damage. But he calmed down a lot afterward.

      She “woke up” after a month in the hospital, having psychotic episodes, and had no memory of the month. I’d bet anything they had her on anti-psychotic meds that contributed to the problem.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_on_Fire

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      • auscitizenmom's avatar auscitizenmom says:

        How awful. I am glad that he found out what had happened to him and that he was able to get off the meds. And, I am very suspicious about anti-psychotic meds.

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        • Pam's avatar Pam says:

          Yes, a lot of these drugs can cause the very things they’re supposed to help. They can cause psychotic reactions. Doctors don’t know exactly what these drugs do when they go into the brain. It’s just “we’ll try it and see.” My mother had mental illness, which she succeeded in covering up and ignoring (no doctors or meds), until she got older and started into Alzheimer’s. Another close family member has the same illness, but he was finally hospitalized and has been on a few of those meds for years now. They work very well for him. He lives a normal life, with a few eccentricities (we all have some of those.) But he may have never been as seriously ill. They do have a rating scale, and he might be lower on the scale.

          When I think about what well-meaning but ignorant doctors did with my son, it’s awful. When I found out what his birth mother had done to him, I completely lost it, the worst anger I have ever experienced. I felt such rage that I wanted to get into my car, drive to her house and exact the ultimate justice. I did not scream or cry or throw things. I was dead, cold serious, and it lasted for weeks. Fortunately, God and my husband kept me from acting on my anger. I can’t even imagine how learning what the woman who gave birth to him actually did to him has affected my son. He won’t talk about it, except to relate a few of the facts, in a very detached way. If he were still a minor, we would instantly have sought counseling, but he doesn’t listen to our advice.

          I had to practice and pray for forgiveness, like I’ve had to do for the two doctors who were so negligent with me. My feelings would have turned to festering hate and resentment, and I would have been eaten up inside by all that. It would have ruined whatever state of grace the Lord had allowed me to attain. I have to watch myself, though, because I learned to not just trust doctors, and it’s real easy to start up with anger and resentment. I wish I had less need of them, but I’m grateful that some doctors and medicine have helped me and other loved ones, also.

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      • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:

        I have an appointment with a new primary care physician tomorrow. My last one, which I waited six months for, was a washout as all of my medical data, which I personally arranged to have sent to his service, was incorrectly entered and couldn’t be read on his computer – my appointment had me, him and six IT techs in the office. I had to be rescheduled, only had to wait three months this time. So far they’ve called me three times in two days to confirm I’ll be there tomorrow (45 miles one-way) but can’t tell me if my computerized records are readable.
        When he asks me what I expect from him, a standard bonding/recognition of his authority process, it’s gonna be hard gor me to not say that I expect him to protect me from all THREE of the main causes of death in moderrn America.

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        • Pam's avatar Pam says:

          It’s just totally disgusting, what you have to go through. However horrible the VA is, it is spreading out into the non-VA medical world now.

          “When he asks me what I expect from him, a standard bonding/recognition of his authority process…” This is very interesting to me. You are saying this is a technique they use? I can’t remember how long I have been hearing doctors say something like this at the first appointment.

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      • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:

        This topic’s bringing a flood of thoughts to mind. Another point: you migh want to check if the hosputal you plan on going to iin case you might have an ischemic stroke ( obe caused by a blood clot) can do tPA treatment. Most do but some cannot and the faster that type of stroke gets diagnosed and treated the less the permanant damage will be. Hospital closest to us now has it, no more wait to get transported 45 miles by ambulance or chopper, we’re down to just 14 and we can drive ourselves..

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        • Pam's avatar Pam says:

          Thanks for talking about this. Our one local hospital has been promoting signing onto some plan regarding the county’s contract with a helicopter service. Now one helicopter is kept at our hospital. If you sign up with the county, as a local resident, the helicopter service is free. They recommend you pay insurance for another helicopter service also, in case the hospital helicopter is unavailable. The insurance is $100 or less/year here, much cheaper than having to pay the full fee during an emergency. But I think some insurance plans will also cover part of helicopter emergency transport, and there is some confusing language on Medicare, indicating they might cover part. I don’t trust the insurance and Medicare so much, though, so we need to take care of this. Living in a rural area is requiring much more thought and action when it comes to medical services.

          I don’t know what this tPa treatment is, but I need to find out asap. Perhaps your wife might feel comfortable answering a question for me. Aren’t neurologists well-qualified to follow up with carotid artery testing, ordering the MRI’s and other tests? I have to be tested regularly for the carotid artery function. The Cleveland Clinic doctors wanted me to find a vascular specialist, which means I would have to go all the way to Atlanta or Chattanooga. But all they’ve been doing for years at Cleveland Clinic is the followup ultrasound test. My husband has found a neurologist much closer to us. He is very impressed with the man, and this doctor is continuing the followup and prescriptions for his ADD and Myasthenia Gravis. The bad neurologist I had was the one who first ordered the artery testing. I would think that maybe my husband’s doctor could continue the normal testing, which is all I need right now. I do have a patch on that artery, something from a cow.

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          • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:

            You probably have the same helicopter service we do, it’s a national chain that contracts with a county. Hospital my wife contracts with has a chopper but the ambulance will only transport to an ER with level one trauma status which means that lower-rated hospital notth of us. NOLA has a level one with multiple ERs, one of the best in the SE, but the air ambulance doesn’t service it.
            We keep a box in the garage a CB and GMRS radio, psrachute/pop flares, smoke grenades and battery-piwered landing lights that will mark the 70-foot LZ area we have clear (a really big area in the front lawn) for any need for a landing. Procedure is for local ambilance to respond and then, if EMT thinks it best, to call for the chopper. This all depends on where the ambulance is ( ruralnarea, could be anywhere), how long it takes for it to get here and how long it will take the chopper to get crewed, warmed up and get here, at least a 50 mile one-way.
            Wife and I both hsvevso e 1st aid, a lotta supplies and a longbed pickup so in most cases we’ll just load and haul, 14 miles is a quicker run.
            Just one of those little things ya gotta put up with way out here.

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  8. czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:

    DoJ’s implementing mandatory bias training for its 28,000 employees (note how they do not refer to them as ‘workers’). Having been to these unbiased kumbaya training sessions I wonder if they’ll still portray the enemy as white Southern Christians?

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    • WeeWeed's avatar WeeWeed says:

      I may have to do my morning greeting to the infidels with that……. 😀 😀 😀

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    • WeeWeed's avatar WeeWeed says:

      Poor Margaret Hamilton – she was in no way as evil as the Hildebeest name.

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      • lovely's avatar lovely says:

        Kids at camp can start a new game say “Hillary Clinton” three times into a mirror and run for the hills!

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        • michellc's avatar michellc says:

          I wonder if those games are even allowed to be played these days.

          At a softball game we watched earlier on one team was chanting, “swing batter swing,” which has been around for as long as I can remember. Apparently that is not appropriate these days as they stopped the game to tell the coaches anymore chants and they would forfeit the game. I guess if it make a kid strike out it would be traumatizing or something.
          I don’t really know why it matters when there isn’t official winners and losers anyway and everyone gets a trophy.

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          • lovely's avatar lovely says:

            Good grief. Only a liberal freak could find something objections with “Swing batter swing.”

            SMH

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            • michellc's avatar michellc says:

              My daughter was teaching her friend’s daughter different chants before this. She grew up playing sports.
              Fortunately or unfortunately I guess however you look at it, the little girl’s team didn’t get a chance to do any of their chants because the other team got the warning before they were able to. lol

              My daughter after the game went over and started talking to the ump and telling her a story about the first softball chant she ever heard at 6 years old. A team was chanting, “I see a hole out there, so hit the ball out there.” She told her it didn’t traumatize her nor did it make her think bad sportsmanship, instead it motivated her because not only did they chant it they did it and she was determined she was going to learn how to place hit.
              The ump told her it wasn’t her decision but the decision of the league board members that no chants would be allowed and she had to abide by their rules regardless of how ignorant she thought they were.

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          • tessa50's avatar tessa50 says:

            And that is what is wrong with some people today, if you grow up sheltered you never learn to stand. Kids get ridiculed, this is life. Adults get ridiculed, not fun, but ya stand and fight back.

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            • michellc's avatar michellc says:

              I can’t wrap my head around it, when my kids were little and got teased I didn’t baby them and go to the school and demand they make it stop.
              Instead I would tell my kids to tease back. It’s part of growing up.

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    • tessa50's avatar tessa50 says:

      That is funny, and I don’t even like Trump lol

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  9. lovely's avatar lovely says:

    Michael Phelps is going to compete in his 5th Olympics. That is if the terrorist attack that is very likely going to hit Rio has not already occurred before his event.

    It seems Rio is about as prepared to safe guard the Olympics as Hillary is for an examination of conscience.

    ‘Credible threat’ that ISIS will target the Rio Olympics: Brazil’s anti-terror chief says numerous measures are being taken to prevent an attack

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3604692/Credible-threat-ISIS-target-Rio-Olympics-Brazil-s-anti-terror-chief-says-numerous-measures-taken-prevent-attack.html

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  10. michellc's avatar michellc says:

    Hubby found a 4ft copperhead in the beans tonight when watering. I sure am glad he’s the one who found it instead of me.
    I told him my butt wasn’t watering anymore after dark.

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    • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:

      My copperheads are mellow as they come, practically sit still and vogue for petting. The moccasins, on the other hand ( or foot, as you prefer) are nasty, vile, ill tempered and stink. They all eat mice and rats so as long as they do their jobs and the moccasins stay out of my sight we’re all OK. Makes picking squash exciting though…

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      • michellc's avatar michellc says:

        Our copperheads are just as evil as the cotton mouths. In some ways more evil because they hide and wait to strike.
        They can live as long as they don’t invade my space.

        A good friend of my sister’s almost died from a copperhead bite. They aren’t always a mild bite as is claimed. I saw her arm after she was bitten and I don’t plan on letting one bite me if I can prevent it.

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        • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:

          I have no intention of offering myself for any snake’s toothfull pleasure, my copperheads are just much more mellow than the moccasins. We noe wre getting rattlesnakes below tne major road 4 miles north of us, they are myvreal worry. Then again if I see hom before he does me I get to toss another snake on the barby. The wild pigs, on the other hand, actively eat dem snakes.

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          • michellc's avatar michellc says:

            I do not like snakes, any snakes, my motto is, “the only good snake is a dead snake.”
            They eat my eggs, my chicks and young chickens and scare the dickens out of me. The venomous snakes bite my dogs costing me money at the vet.

            Our domesticated pigs eat snakes as well, just the other day a huge rat snake found it’s way in one of the hog’s pens and became dinner.

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            • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:

              I gots good snakes and not so good snakes. The rat and king snakes eat rats and mice while the kings also eat other snakes. I basically gotta live with what I got and we both try tonstay outside of each other’s way. Coobs, foxes, skunks, possums, bobcats and coyotes give me more of a headache than snakes do.

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              • michellc's avatar michellc says:

                My dogs do a pretty good job of keeping the other critters away.
                Snakes are our biggest headache. One snake can clean you out pretty fast in the chick department once they learn they’re there.

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  11. michellc's avatar michellc says:

    What the heck is a kid supposed to call a brownie? I think I’ve heard it all now. What next, is the police going to be called because a kid calls a black or brown crayon, black or brown?

    http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/29/nj-elementary-school-calls-cops-on-third-grader-for-saying-brownie/

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