General Discussion, Tuesday, June 28, 2016

Posted on June 28, 2016 by Stella

MollyPitcherBattleOfMonmouthThe Continental Army under General George Washington attacked the rear of the British Army column commanded by Lieutenant General Sir Henry Clinton as they left Monmouth Court House, New Jersey (modern Freehold Borough) on June 28, 1778.

Molly Pitcher was a nickname given to a woman said to have fought in the American Battle of Monmouth, who is generally believed to have been Mary Ludwig Hays. Since various Molly Pitcher tales grew in the telling, many historians regard Molly Pitcher as folklore rather than history, or suggest that Molly Pitcher may be a composite image inspired by the actions of a number of real women. The name itself may have originated as a nickname given to women who carried water to men on the battlefield during the war. (Wikipedia)

 

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101 Responses to General Discussion, Tuesday, June 28, 2016

  1. czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
    June 28, 2016 at 12:24 am

    Why don’t arteeests paint dirty soldiers? How do they expect everyone not only arrives but stays pristine? Just a personal gripe.

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    • Stella's avatar stella says:
      June 28, 2016 at 12:55 am

      I see what you mean. Even the dead ones are clean.

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    • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
      June 28, 2016 at 1:00 am

      War is so glorious when you don’t have to actually fight it. Sort of like the first Battle of Bull Run.

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      • Stella's avatar stella says:
        June 28, 2016 at 1:58 am

        I recently read an account of the Battle of Monmouth (fiction, but realistic). It was far from clean.

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        • Col.(R) Ken's avatar Col.(R) Ken says:
          June 28, 2016 at 8:45 am

          Stella, great intro, I believe Molly Pitcher was a propaganda tale, to instill the fight into the home folks.

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          • ImpeachEmAll's avatar ImpeachEmAll says:
            June 28, 2016 at 11:43 am

            With all the progressive
            propaganda, one might
            believe Trump will be
            similarly described in a
            hundred or two years.

            Sounds like she may
            have lived in an Italian
            neighborhood – Molly
            Pitcher, Bobby Irish
            aka Bobby Milk.

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        • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
          June 28, 2016 at 11:43 am

          Just the prep parts, marching miles in heavy uniform and gear, the dust and dirt mixing with the sweat, is bad enough. Then you have the sitting and waiting during eating/ rest breaks where the sweat and dirt settle in – you’d be surprised how much dirt a hundred or more people can stir up just milling around. Then we have the less tasteful,area of attending to bodily issues in an outdoor, primitive area under less than ideal circumstances and going days without even a spit bath. Don’t forget that in many cases you only had one uniform with you.
          We’d spend 30 days or more out in the field and it would be a week before the shower unit would come and we’d kiss the ground thry walked on when they arrived. I can only imagine what it must be like to walk for weeks like that. Now add a battle with the air filled with thick smoke from the black powder they used, the increased sweat, dirt and bodily smells then the clean up after the battle.
          There’s more, just thought I’d hit the hilites. Multiply this by the thousands of soldiers the ‘old’ wars would bring together and perhaps we have a better idea of why the artists didn’t paint reality.

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          • Stella's avatar stella says:
            June 28, 2016 at 12:12 pm

            No shower units for them – rivers and lakes were the best that they got. People in the 17th century didn’t bathe as much as we do, or have that many changes of clothes, for that matter, so they may not have minded it as much.

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            • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
              June 28, 2016 at 12:31 pm

              Yeah, but when you consider more soldiers died from disease and infection than directly from punctures of various kinds, and that’s not a kind or quick way to go…
              I went to a number of Civil War battlefields and streams or lakes are not readily available at many. When younconsider that even when a water source is availablebit had to serve the drinking and sanitary needs of hundreds, if not thousands, of soldiers and their supporting livestock, not to forget the water in many cases ain’t that fast moving, well…

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              • nyetneetot's avatar nyetneetot says:
                June 28, 2016 at 12:44 pm

                Napoleon’s invasion of Russia.

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                • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
                  June 28, 2016 at 1:16 pm

                  As Hitler’s….deaths by statvation and freezing.

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                  • nyetneetot's avatar nyetneetot says:
                    June 28, 2016 at 1:34 pm

                    I was thinking lice and typhus.

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                  • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
                    June 28, 2016 at 3:27 pm

                    Excavating in Lithuania workers uncovered the mass graves of Napoleonic troops who’d survived the retreat through freezing Russian winter only to succumb to freezing and starvation in a large city. Napolean invaded Russia with over 680-thousand troops and exited about 5 months later with around 120-thousand.
                    In WWII the German army lost over two million in Russia, 2/3rds of its entire European casualties/MIA /POWs. They were reduced to eating their draught and cavalry horses during the retreat and thry duplicated Napoleon’s troops experiences in freezing to death.
                    My grandfather had the pleasure of experiencing the dual joys of a lack of effective resupply and Russian winters in both World Wars and the effects of these events weren’t lost on US planners as resupply abilities under adverse conditions became as important, in our Russia battle planning scenarios, as the offensive actions were – ditto medical.

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      • ImpeachEmAll's avatar ImpeachEmAll says:
        June 28, 2016 at 9:57 pm

        Valerie Jarrett’s
        hands look clean;
        but, are they?

        http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/world/article24737176.html

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    • michellc's avatar michellc says:
      June 28, 2016 at 11:53 am

      I watched a movie once about the Civil War, the entire movie was like that, clean uniforms, clean bandages, it was so distracting I couldn’t pay attention to the movie and turned it off about a quarter of the way through.

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      • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
        June 28, 2016 at 12:35 pm

        I also visited the sites of WWI and WW II battles in Europe and talked with vets of both, conditions in many cases weren’t that much better. In all it’s a sucky occupation when you really get down to it.

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  2. nyetneetot's avatar nyetneetot says:
    June 28, 2016 at 1:06 am

    And now, for something completely different….

    Seattle PD Blotter
    http://spdblotter.seattle.gov/2016/06/23/man-arrested-for-self-exposure-at-self-checkout/

    Man Arrested For Self-Exposure at Self-Checkout

    East Precinct officers arrested a 31-year-old man Wednesday night after he flashed employees and befouled a self-checkout machine at a Capitol Hill grocery store.

    Around 5 PM, employees at the store in the 400 block of Broadway E noticed the man standing at a self-checkout machine, laughing to himself as he placed his genitals on top of the scanner of a self-checkout machine. The man fled the store but returned five hours later, and was confronted by employees.

    Employees told the man to leave, but he refused and got into a shoving match with store security before leaving the store. Officers later arrested the man at Broadway E and E Harrison Street and booked him into the King County Jail for indecent exposure.

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  3. czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
    June 28, 2016 at 1:27 am

    Only reason I’m out here all by myself is MM’s out on a blind date. No serious competetion…I’m packing it in.

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  4. WeeWeed's avatar WeeWeed says:
    June 28, 2016 at 7:16 am

    Mornin’ y’all!

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  5. nyetneetot's avatar nyetneetot says:
    June 28, 2016 at 8:01 am

    Mornin’ stella! (Smiter of those that ought to be smote) 😎 🍸 (Long Island Iced Tea)
    Mornin’ WeeWeed! (Master Mixologist Extrodinare) 😎 🍸 (Old Fashioned)
    Mornin’ Menagerie! 😎 |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| (Jack Daniels)
    Mornin’ Ad rem! (Queen Felis catus) 🐱 🍸 (Flaming Lamborghini)
    Mornin’ Sharon! 😎 🍸 (earthquake)
    Mornin’ ytz4mee! 😎 🍸 (cosmopolitan)
    Mornin’ partyzantski! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ texan59! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ ZurichMike! 🙂 🍸 (fuzzy navel)
    Mornin’ Col.(R) Ken! (hand salute) 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ czarowniczy! 🙂 |_| ( and Czarina 🙂 🍸 )
    Mornin’ letjusticeprevail2014! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ ctdar! 🙂 🍸 (grasshopper)
    Mornin’ tessa50! 🙂 🍸 (flaming volcano)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! 🙂 🍸 (sidecar)
    Mornin’ varsityward! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ MaryfromMarin! 😀 |_| (Mortlach)
    Mornin’ Wooly Phlox! (aka “taqiyyologist”) 🙂 |_| (Roy Rogers)
    Mornin’ Howie! 🙂 |_| (Classic Daiquiri)
    Mornin’ TwoLaine! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ Sha! 🙂 🍸 (Lemon Drop)
    Mornin’ BigMamaTEA! 🙂 🍸 (Harvey Wallbanger)
    Mornin’ cetera5! (aka “Cetera”) 🙂 |_| (Blackberry wine)
    Mornin’ The Tundra PA! 🙂 🍸 (bailey irish cream on the rocks)
    Mornin’ lovely! 🙂 |_| (Backdraft)
    Mornin’ michellc! 🙂 🍸 (Salty dog)
    Mornin’ auscitizenmom! 🙂 🍸 (Kiss on the Lips)
    Mornin’ Margaret-Ann! 🙂 🍸 (White Russian)
    Mornin’ Auntie Lib! 🙂 🍸 (Tom and Jerry)
    Mornin’ holly100! 🙂 🍸
    Mornin’ Pam! 🙂
    Mornin’ ImpeachEmAll 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ Monroe! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ Les! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ shiloh1973! 🙂 |_| (Jack Daniels)
    Mornin’ TexasRanger! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ Ziiggii! 🙂 |_| (B52)
    Mornin’ oldiadguy! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ smiley! (“stuck in spambucket”) 🙂 🍸 (Spanish coffee)
    Mornin’ derk! (“Stellars”) 🙂 🍸 (Mudslide)
    Mornin’ Jacqueline Taylor Robson 🙂 🍸 (Shirley Temple)
    Mornin’ facebkwallflower! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ Ms. Cindy! (aka “Ms Cynlynn” aka “ms cynlynn”) 🙂 🍸
    Mornin’ sandandsea2015! 🙂 🍸
    Mornin’ whiners and complainers! ⭐ 😛 (No drink for you!)
    Mornin’ to people posting that I missed. 😳
    Mornin’ to all you lurkers! 😕

    Also just in case someday; mornin’ to Elvis Chupacabra and F.D.R. in Hell! :mrgreen:

    Breakfast!

    NEW and IMPROVED breakfast with extra bacon for ZurichMike!

    Pastries for coffee!

    ⭐ = Unprintable phallic symbol

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  6. sandandsea2015's avatar sandandsea2015 says:
    June 28, 2016 at 8:29 am

    Morning all! Thanks, Nyet!

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  7. michellc's avatar michellc says:
    June 28, 2016 at 9:14 am

    I strongly dislike Judges.

    http://iotwreport.com/looking-forward-to-what-judges-will-force-muslims-to-do/

    A federal judge on Monday ruled that clerks in Mississippi may not recuse themselves from issuing marriage licenses to gay couples based on religious beliefs, despite a bill passed by the state legislature intended to carve out that exception for them.

    U.S. District Judge Carlton Reeves said that the recusals on religious grounds granted by the state’s so-called “Protecting Freedom of Conscience from Government Discrimination Act”, or House Bill 1523, violated the U.S. Supreme Court’s landmark 2015 ruling legalizing gay marriage.

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    • Pam's avatar Pam says:
      June 28, 2016 at 12:19 pm

      I can never keep all this legal mumbo-jumbo clear in my mind. It seems as if there’s always another judge or another court to overrule or stop what a previous one decides. Or one judge can overturn how the people of a state vote in a referendum or by state legislation. Aren’t federal courts already messing with the laws Texas passed regarding abortions and abortion clinics? Does anyone believe the Supreme Court deadlock over Obama’s illegal immigrant activities is going to stop the Obama administration from continuing on with their business as usual?

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      • Stella's avatar stella says:
        June 28, 2016 at 12:27 pm

        Pam, the Supreme Court overruled the Texas law yesterday.

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      • michellc's avatar michellc says:
        June 28, 2016 at 1:34 pm

        I still am fuming over them taking away my state’s rights and the vote of the people in regard to gay marriage.

        However, if we have judges who believe the Constitution, which they are to be judging laws against is meaningless then why the heck do we allow them to be judges?

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  8. michellc's avatar michellc says:
    June 28, 2016 at 9:15 am

    Another Judge to strongly dislike.

    http://iotwreport.com/reagan-appointed-judge-says-constitution-has-no-value-antiquated/

    A federal judge appointed by President Ronald Reagan argued in a recent post on Slate that less attention should be paid to the U.S. Constitution since much of it is not relevant to the 21st century.

    “I see absolutely no value to a judge of spending decades, years, months, weeks, days, hours, minutes, or seconds studying the Constitution, the history of its enactment, its amendments, and its implementation (across the centuries — well, just a little more than two centuries, and of course less for many of the amendments),” writes 7th Circuit Judge Richard Posner.

    “Eighteenth-century guys, however smart, could not foresee the culture, technology, etc., of the 21st century,” he said. “Which means that the original Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and the post-Civil War amendments (including the 14th), do not speak to today.”

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    • nyetneetot's avatar nyetneetot says:
      June 28, 2016 at 10:32 am

      I read about this yesterday while I was traveling between chairs. In many peoples opinion, it’s such a short sighted perspective. He’s not the only one or even the first person to hold that view though. Frederick the Great’s father was like that. He saw no value in learning anything about ancient Greece or Rome.
      I thought about writing a lengthy rebuttal, but it’s been argued many times before.
      We are currently living in one of those time periods where little importance is placed on history. It seems to go in waves. In a couple of hundred years it will be popular again to learn all you can. Unless it all gets burned and we end up thinking half of written history is myth again.

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    • Stella's avatar stella says:
      June 28, 2016 at 10:56 am

      To which I say, amend the constitution in the way described in the document itself. The amendment procedure was designed by those “18th century guys”, and has been used many times since the constitution was written.

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      • nyetneetot's avatar nyetneetot says:
        June 28, 2016 at 11:17 am

        It’s been argued that the promotion of the viewpoint of history being worthless is just a method to keep people stupid enough to believe socialism works.
        The more newspapers, magazines, and general text that I read from 130+ years ago, the more convinced I am that a peasant class in our society has been created where none existed before. No meaningful planning, or realistic goals in life. No understanding of how to achieve anything. Just drifting along, reacting poorly to each rock bumped into upon the river of life, etc.

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  9. lovely's avatar lovely says:
    June 28, 2016 at 10:10 am

    Trey Gowdy speaking about Benghazi.

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  10. WeeWeed's avatar WeeWeed says:
    June 28, 2016 at 10:20 am

    I’m already reading “Crisis of Character.” What.A.B!tch.

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  12. ImpeachEmAll's avatar ImpeachEmAll says:
    June 28, 2016 at 1:14 pm

    From the Do as I say;
    not as I do department:

    Some Kauai residents
    unhappy about wall being
    built by Facebook billionaire.

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  13. michellc's avatar michellc says:
    June 28, 2016 at 6:02 pm

    How stupid can you get and why is he suspended WITH pay?

    http://www.news9.com/story/32320270/officer-accused-of-trying-to-pawn-tpd-issued-gun-suspended-arrested

    Tulsa police confirmed an officer is in jail, accused of trying to pawn his TPD-issued gun.

    Officer Michael Thompson has been with the department since 2006.

    Records show he was arrested around 4:30 Monday afternoon on charges of embezzlement and two counts of false declaration of ownership.

    Police say Thompson is currently suspended from TPD with pay.

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  14. czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
    June 28, 2016 at 6:08 pm

    Terrorist bombing at Istanbul’s Ataturk airport, some 28 dead so far. Waiting for White House to announce that it was probably done by Mormon missionaries.

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  15. czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
    June 28, 2016 at 6:35 pm

    The difference between Benghazi and the other dead in Hillary’s wake is the Benghazi Four were inconvenient deaths.

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  17. texan59's avatar texan59 says:
    June 28, 2016 at 10:09 pm

    This could signal a death knell to country music as we know it. Not that much of today’s music is worth holdin’ on to anyway. 🙄

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/the-backstreet-boys-are-back-in-the-studio-and-theyre-making-country-music/ar-AAhJ55f

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  18. texan59's avatar texan59 says:
    June 28, 2016 at 10:17 pm

    Well looky here. Robot lawyer has gotten 160k of 250k parking tickets overturned. I shall not shed a tear should some of these blood-suckin’ cretins are put out’a work. 😆 😆

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/tech/worlds-first-robot-lawyer-overturns-8302040

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  19. Stella's avatar stella says:
    June 28, 2016 at 10:19 pm

    As seen on FB (four hours ago):

    From daddy (a pilot): However, scrolling through the internet I am led to a US State Department Website titled Alerts and Warnings

    If you click on that page and look at the column of “Red” Travel Warnings, you will see that one was issued for Turkey on 27 June 2016. Turkey is a day ahead of us so this is probably 24-36 hours ago.

    That being issued just yesterday, and replacing a previous warning dated 29 March, 2016, one might infer that there was possibly some heads-up about increased possibility of an imminent attack, unless of course one is a member of the Media, in which case no mention of this new Warning being issued just hours before this attack will ever be mentioned.

    “Allahu Akbar!”, or as John McCain tells us, “God Bless.”

    Posted by: daddy |

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  20. michellc's avatar michellc says:
    June 28, 2016 at 11:10 pm

    Well Mullin won his primary and in all likelihood will be returning to D.C., it’s not surprising Okies seem to be brain dead when it comes to incumbents, but it’s still disappointing.
    Cole is going back as well. 😦

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  21. michellc's avatar michellc says:
    June 29, 2016 at 12:12 am

    This kind of stuff has been going on for years. There have always been different laws for different folks. They’re really lucky she didn’t go on and kill someone.

    http://www.dcclothesline.com/2016/06/28/wasted-da-nearly-kills-multiple-motorists-no-arrest-cops-change-her-tire-let-her-drive-away/

    Wasted DA Nearly Kills Multiple Motorists – No Arrest, Cops Change Her Tire, Let Her Drive Away!

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