General Discussion, Thursday, June 9, 2016

Posted on June 9, 2016 by Stella

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  1. Col.(R) Ken's avatar Col.(R) Ken says:
    June 9, 2016 at 12:05 am

    2days in a row!

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  2. MaryfromMarin's avatar MaryfromMarin says:
    June 9, 2016 at 1:21 am

    Is this ^^^ the lighthouse from the famous pictures, showing one with the walkway out to it covered with ice?

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    • Stella's avatar stella says:
      June 9, 2016 at 8:14 am

      No, but not far from there. The one with ice is in South Haven (MI) where Wooly lives, and this one is in Michigan City (IN).

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    • Stella's avatar stella says:
      June 9, 2016 at 8:22 am

      Here’s the South Haven light:

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      • Wooly Covfefe's avatar Wooly Phlox says:
        June 9, 2016 at 8:57 am

        Great picture. Taken from the North pier.

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      • Menagerie's avatar Menagerie says:
        June 9, 2016 at 8:58 am

        Years ago my husband and I remodeled our home together with the two sons who were still at home. We threw out just danged near everything as we moved from room to room, replacing all of our old worn out possessions a few at a time as we finished a room. When we were completely done I just couldn’t choose any pictures or anything to hang on the walls in the kitchen, especially the big wall behind the table. My husband kept picking out lighthouses. I kept saying that doesn’t belong in a kitchen. We both like boat and nautical pictures because he builds tugboats. Finally I gave in and bought a lighthouse calendar, framed the best ones, and loved and enjoyed the pics as long as we lived there. This was several years before lighthouse decor became popular. I kind of lost my enthusiasm when that stuff was all over the place.

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        • The Tundra PA's avatar The Tundra PA says:
          June 9, 2016 at 2:36 pm

          …he builds tugboats…

          Really?!? That’s just awesome! They are amazing boats. When I lived in Seattle years ago, I watched the tugboat races held there. Talk about churning power. I’ll bet Mr. Menagerie has some great stories.

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          • The Tundra PA's avatar The Tundra PA says:
            June 9, 2016 at 2:39 pm

            My hubby, the retired Coast Guard captain, loves lighthouse photos and decor. Somewhat less since the trendiness happened.

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            • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
              June 9, 2016 at 7:12 pm

              Navy Captain I work with always was saying stuff about ‘the brown-water Navy’, never did understand what that was all about…

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              • The Tundra PA's avatar The Tundra PA says:
                June 9, 2016 at 9:36 pm

                Yeah, naval types like to sneer about how the Coast Guard doesn’t get into deep water, or go far from shore. “Puddle pirates” is another of their favorites. DH, who graduated from the US Coast Guard Academy, says Annapolis is where the CGA rejects went. It’s *mostly* good fun, inter-service rivalry.

                He also just told me that there used to be an independent US Lighthouse Service. It was absorbed by the Coast Guard about 1915.

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                • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
                  June 9, 2016 at 10:43 pm

                  I was going to say Puddle Pirate but I thought I’d lead with the less provocative. We had a joint 4-service intel cell bedded with a Navy intel unit in a Navy SCIF. It was funnnnnnnnn.

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          • Menagerie's avatar Menagerie says:
            June 9, 2016 at 4:42 pm

            I imagine the tugboats that work on the inland rivers are pretty different from the ones in Seattle. As a matter of fact, the company he works for got a contract to build a boat for a very large city in the Midwest. They insisted on using naval architects in Seattle. The naval architects insisted on building the boat to be sea worthy. I’m not kidding. The stupid city would not listen to my husband and his explanations about things that were adding unnecessary time and expense. Components had to be shipped in from even overseas. Also, they insisted on some fuel saving feature. It changed the rudder system I think, can’t remember details. My husband told them it would be a tradeoff in power and maneuverability and that the boat would not perform the job it was being built to do. Guess what happened? Everyone lost, all the way around because some architect somewhere decided that even though the ocean and the rivers are very different bodies of water, and he didn’t know what he was doing, he would insist on building a boat to do things that it didn’t need to do, and forget the purpose it was built for. And this architect was hired because the city is a well known mecca for liberal worship of Global Warming Is The Only Thing That Matters In The Whole World.

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      • Pam's avatar Pam says:
        June 9, 2016 at 3:16 pm

        These pictures you’ve been giving us are magnificent. The skies, the stars, the water. Very different from the places in the country I have lived. As for water, I’ve experienced the southern states’ intracoastal waterways, Atlantic Ocean and fishing 30 miles out from shore, the Gulf, and a wild sailboat trip to the Bahamas, which included a big storm where we were completely lost for a time right in the middle of the trip.

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  3. MaryfromMarin's avatar MaryfromMarin says:
    June 9, 2016 at 1:22 am

    Useful information from PZ (aka, a word to the wise):

    “Festivities” unavoidable? Dress for Success, or, What I wore to the Riot: A primer for Preppers, Survivalists and Trump Rally attendees

    http://stopshouting.blogspot.com/2016/06/festivities-unavoidable-dress-for.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+blogspot%2FBfoGA+%28Stop+shouting%21%29

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    • nyetneetot's avatar nyetneetot says:
      June 9, 2016 at 10:20 am

      I keep going to the other site and never see this stuff.

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    • Col.(R) Ken's avatar Col.(R) Ken says:
      June 9, 2016 at 10:22 am

      Great article, Everyone should read for self awareness, YTZ4Mee/PZ great site, good information, “great folks”!!!!

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    • Pam's avatar Pam says:
      June 9, 2016 at 3:37 pm

      “The Trump supporters may have not acknowledged the seriousness of the situation or understood it immediately, leading to terror and injury. Know well that the forces of international socialism WILL bring a lot of pain to the street.”

      The first part of this article verbalizes some of the things that have been running around in my mind. But when he goes into giving advice on how to dress and prepare, look at all the things he says one should wear or carry. How could Trump supporters, going INTO a rally event building or area, do all that? Are they going to let you in with a helmet, backpack, gas mask?

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      • Stella's avatar stella says:
        June 9, 2016 at 4:05 pm

        That’s what I was thinking, Pam!

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      • michellc's avatar michellc says:
        June 9, 2016 at 5:03 pm

        Yep, I don’t think they’re going to let you in with gas masks, back packs, gloves and goggles. They’d probably be at least detaining you thinking you were a bomber.

        There’s honestly not a lot you can take inside with you to protect yourself when you come out. I would advise having someone or someones to meet you after the event who can have things to protect you. In a bind though keys, tweezers, rings, even hairspray can be used as a weapon.
        Calling 911 is obviously useless when the cops are outside watching people being attacked and do nothing to stop the attack. That takes the cops are 5 minutes away when you have 5 seconds to an entirely new level.

        It’s pretty sad if you ask me in the U.S. we should even be having to discuss how to protect yourself against a mob who is gathered just because you attend a political rally.

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        • Pam's avatar Pam says:
          June 9, 2016 at 5:52 pm

          I do believe the bad people PZ talks about are planning on mass disruption. I do believe many Trump supporters are naive, and others are more than ready, or think they are, to mix it up. Those people at San Jose looked like sitting ducks. I wonder if the Trump people even thought ahead of time that they might not be able to trust the police there. Were they aware, at the end of the rally, what was actually going on outside? Surely, they are having to think about these things now.

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      • MaryfromMarin's avatar MaryfromMarin says:
        June 9, 2016 at 7:52 pm

        Remember the title: “…for Preppers, Survivalists AND Trump Rally Attendees” [“and” emphasis mine].

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        • Pam's avatar Pam says:
          June 9, 2016 at 8:11 pm

          I saw that you put it next door, Mary. The relevant comment under was emphasizing NOT to go near a riot. You are emphasizing the AND here. What do you think about it?

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          • MaryfromMarin's avatar MaryfromMarin says:
            June 9, 2016 at 8:53 pm

            I initially meant that some of the equipment PZ was talking about IS more applicable to Preppers and Survivalists than “official”, ticket-bearing Rally Attendees.

            However, it may well become more and more necessary protective equipment for people who are rallying in public places. Considering that both the MSM and most of the political elite have given a tacit “pass” to those who attack Trump supporters.

            Sad state of affairs when people may become afraid to exercise their freedom of assembly without incurring “excused/justified” violence. Of course, IMO that is the goal.

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  4. lovely's avatar lovely says:
    June 9, 2016 at 7:57 am

    Have a beautiful day folks 🙂 The sun is shinning and it is a cool 56° here with a high of 72° predicted.

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  5. nyetneetot's avatar nyetneetot says:
    June 9, 2016 at 8:15 am

    Mornin’ stella! (Smiter of those that ought to be smote) 😎 🍸 (Long Island Iced Tea)
    Mornin’ WeeWeed! (Master Mixologist Extrodinare) 😎 🍸 (Old Fashioned)
    Mornin’ Menagerie! 😎 |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| (Jack Daniels)
    Mornin’ Ad rem! (Queen Felis catus) 🐱 🍸 (Flaming Lamborghini)
    Mornin’ Sharon! 😎 🍸 (earthquake)
    Mornin’ ytz4mee! 😎 🍸 (cosmopolitan)
    Mornin’ partyzantski! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ texan59! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ ZurichMike! 🙂 🍸 (fuzzy navel)
    Mornin’ Col.(R) Ken! (hand salute) 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ czarowniczy! 🙂 |_| ( and Czarina 🙂 🍸 )
    Mornin’ letjusticeprevail2014! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ ctdar! 🙂 🍸 (grasshopper)
    Mornin’ tessa50! 🙂 🍸 (flaming volcano)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! 🙂 🍸 (sidecar)
    Mornin’ varsityward! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ MaryfromMarin! 😀 |_| (Mortlach)
    Mornin’ Wooly Phlox! (aka “taqiyyologist”) 🙂 |_| (Roy Rogers)
    Mornin’ Howie! 🙂 |_| (Classic Daiquiri)
    Mornin’ TwoLaine! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ Sha! 🙂 🍸 (Lemon Drop)
    Mornin’ BigMamaTEA! 🙂 🍸 (Harvey Wallbanger)
    Mornin’ cetera5! (aka “Cetera”) 🙂 |_| (Blackberry wine)
    Mornin’ The Tundra PA! 🙂 🍸 (bailey irish cream on the rocks)
    Mornin’ lovely! 🙂 |_| (Backdraft)
    Mornin’ michellc! 🙂 🍸 (Salty dog)
    Mornin’ auscitizenmom! 🙂 🍸 (Kiss on the Lips)
    Mornin’ Margaret-Ann! 🙂 🍸 (White Russian)
    Mornin’ Auntie Lib! 🙂 🍸 (Tom and Jerry)
    Mornin’ holly100! 🙂 🍸
    Mornin’ Pam! 🙂
    Mornin’ ImpeachEmAll 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ Monroe! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ Les! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ shiloh1973! 🙂 |_| (Jack Daniels)
    Mornin’ TexasRanger! 🙂 |_|
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    Mornin’ smiley! (“stuck in spambucket”) 🙂 🍸 (Spanish coffee)
    Mornin’ derk! (“Stellars”) 🙂 🍸 (Mudslide)
    Mornin’ Jacqueline Taylor Robson 🙂 🍸 (Shirley Temple)
    Mornin’ facebkwallflower! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ Ms. Cindy! (aka “Ms Cynlynn” aka “ms cynlynn”) 🙂 🍸
    Mornin’ sandandsea2015! 🙂 🍸
    Mornin’ whiners and complainers! ⭐ 😛 (No drink for you!)
    Mornin’ to people posting that I missed. 😳
    Mornin’ to all you lurkers! 😕

    Also just in case someday; mornin’ to Elvis Chupacabra and F.D.R. in Hell! :mrgreen:

    Breakfast!

    NEW and IMPROVED breakfast with extra bacon for ZurichMike!

    Pastries for coffee!

    ⭐ = Unprintable phallic symbol

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  6. WeeWeed's avatar WeeWeed says:
    June 9, 2016 at 8:36 am

    Mornin’ y’all!

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  7. sandandsea2015's avatar sandandsea2015 says:
    June 9, 2016 at 8:44 am

    Gorgeous photo, Stella!

    Happy Thursday everybody! 🌺

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  8. Stella's avatar stella says:
    June 9, 2016 at 10:02 am

    Very interesting …

    TWA 800: What the CIA Did to Mike Wire, Witness 571 (By Mike Wire)

    http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/06/twa_800_what_the_cia_did_to_witness_571_mike_wire.html

    As the transcript showed, at least two of the NTSB people gave the CIA resistance. They had seen the FBI “302” that Lash prepared, and it honestly reported what I had seen. When cornered, the CIA analyst responded, “He [I] was an important eyewitness to us. And we asked the FBI to talk to him again, and they did.”

    This was nonsense. The FBI never spoke to me after the initial Lash interview. The CIA analyst continued, “In his original description, he [I] thought he had seen a firework and that perhaps that firework had originated on the beach behind the house.” This was true.

    According to the analyst, though, I was “reinterviewed,” and I changed my statement. According to this fictional second interview, I did not see the light ascend from the beach. I first saw the light appear “as if — if you imagine a flagpole on top of the house it would be as if it were on the top or the tip of the flag pole.” As a millwright, we do not use flagpoles as an increment of measurement. I would use degrees of angle in this kind of instance as in the original statement.

    “Now, when the FBI told us that,” said the analyst, “we got even more comfortable with our theory.”

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    • Col.(R) Ken's avatar Col.(R) Ken says:
      June 9, 2016 at 10:51 am

      The enablers in this tragedy just disgust me. Clinton and Hilllabeast were unavailable, upstairs in the private residence of the White House, when this tragedy struck. Did we ever pinpoint who fired one of those missiles?

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      • Stella's avatar stella says:
        June 9, 2016 at 11:17 am

        My guess is that it was one of ours. But Bill Clinton was running for reelection at the time, so we may never know for sure.

        This is supposed to be an ongoing series at AT, so we’ll have to see what they have to say.

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        • Col.(R) Ken's avatar Col.(R) Ken says:
          June 9, 2016 at 12:09 pm

          Stella, the air speed indicator (true) recorded two blasts, sound waves. My educated guess is: people spotted a Navy destroyer patrolling very close to shore days before the shoot down. The missile was shoulder fired, off shore, had to be a Stinger slant range 8-10k. Navy Destroyer fires an intercepter missile, one missile goes through the forward section of the aircraft behind the first bulkhead, the second missile exploded out side of the aircraft. The difference in the blasts was milliseconds.
          Czar may have a lot more than I have, all of my information has been from Mr.Cashill, and TSB report. In the military there are events you inquire about or discuss, then there are events you don’t talk about. If you get my drift……
          Remember this witness said, heard four booms. The firing of these missiles result in a loud boom, sub sonic, and sound does carry over water. The two other booms were the explosions.

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  9. nyetneetot's avatar nyetneetot says:
    June 9, 2016 at 11:08 am

    Lighten up people. The new T-shirts from China are here…

    http://gipsy.ninja/bad-translations-english-t-shirts-asia/

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  10. auscitizenmom's avatar auscitizenmom says:
    June 9, 2016 at 11:15 am

    I can’t find word to explain this. My only thought is, should we even bother to care? Maybe we should wall these people off and let them annihilate each other. 😯

    “Baltimore: Son Shoots Dad at Murdered Brother’s Memorial Service
    Another day in crime-ridden Baltimore.”

    http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/baltimore-son-shoots-dad-murdered-brothers-memorial-service

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  11. auscitizenmom's avatar auscitizenmom says:
    June 9, 2016 at 11:19 am

    OMG I can’t stand it. 😀 LOL

    “Comic Relief: Two Groups of Sanders Supporters Brawl, Each Thinking the Other Supports Trump
    Stupid is as stupid does.”

    http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/comic-relief-two-groups-sanders-supporters-brawl-each-thinking-other-supports-trump

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  12. michellc's avatar michellc says:
    June 9, 2016 at 2:23 pm

    You know how they’re always saying illegals do the work Americans won’t do and one of those examples is always picking fruits and veggies.
    Welp, we’re Americans and the veggies are producing about as fast as we can harvest them. We picked a bushel of peas and two bushels of green beans yesterday evening. Shelled all the peas last night and multi-tasking today snapping beans and doing paper work and socializing online. My only pay is the food to eat and I haven’t seen an illegal Mexican picking any of our veggies. lol

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  13. auscitizenmom's avatar auscitizenmom says:
    June 9, 2016 at 2:41 pm

    I just read the statement from the woman who was raped behind the dumpster. Her assailant only got 6 months, which is ridiculous. This statement is 7,000 words long and it made me cry, not because she was hurt, not because she was victimized, but because of her courage, strength, and intelligence.

    Victim of Stanford rape releases powerful letter she read in court

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  14. The Tundra PA's avatar The Tundra PA says:
    June 9, 2016 at 3:13 pm

    Yay!! More Trump rallies!

    Friday 6/10, 8 pm: Richmond VA
    Saturday 6/11, 11 am: Tampa FL
    Saturday 6/11, 3 pm: Pittsburgh PA
    Monday 6/13, 2:30 pm: Manchester NH

    https://www.donaldjtrump.com/schedule

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  15. nyetneetot's avatar nyetneetot says:
    June 9, 2016 at 4:24 pm

    The Four Food Groups, Old and New
    http://www.jewishveg.com/schwartz/ffgroups.html

    “…
    Since 1916, the United States Department of Agriculture has periodically issued food guides. After several versions, in 1956 it recommended its Basic Four Food Groups in its Leaflet, Food For Fitness – A Daily Food Guide. The government’s Basic Four involved

    (1) meats, poultry, fish, dry beans and peas, eggs, and nuts;

    (2) dairy products, such as milk, cheese, and yogurt;

    (3) grains; and

    (4) fruits and vegetables.

    Until 1992 this combination of foods was a mainstay of nutrition education in the United States and was considered almost the definitive word on nutrition by the vast majority of Americans.

    In 1992, the U. S. Department of Agriculture issued a Food Guide Pyramid, which pictures fruits, vegetables, and grains at its broad base, emphasizing the nutritional importance of these foods. However, the pyramid pictures meat and dairy products at the upper, smaller portion of the pyramid, just below oils, sweets, and fats, and promotes daily consumption of two to three servings from the meat and dairy groups.

    In a major challenge to these Government recommendations, on April 8, 1992, the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM), a health/nutrition advocacy group, primarily health professionals, unveiled its recommended New Four Food Groups.
    …”

    I’d like to point out before the government’s involvement, most Americans were not FAT.

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  16. Stella's avatar stella says:
    June 9, 2016 at 6:04 pm

    Some of you might find this interesting. It was posted on Facebook by a physician in the Portland, OR area, and reposted by my cousin, who is a nurse in the same area.

    Dear Medicine,

    What’s happened to our Histories & Physicals? Why has the usual logical format of chief complaint, history of present illness, past medical history, allergies, medications, family history, social history, physical exam, lab and imaging studies, assessment and plan fallen out of favor? I’m trying to find out the story of a patient’s presentation (history of present illness) and having to read one that goes:

    Assessment
    Past medical history
    Medications
    Allergies
    Social history
    History of present illness
    Physical exam
    Labs and imaging studies

    What the hell is that? What happened to telling a patient’s story in a time-honored format that’s been ingrained in the training of generations upon generations of physicians? Why is half the stuff I read in H&Ps and daily progress notes there purely for regulatory purposes and actually hinders my efficiency and proficiency in understanding a patient and their illness? Why do I have to read a novella every day to figure out how a patient is doing when previously a one-page SOAP note perfectly sufficed? Why does the popular rhetoric touting the importance and merits of integrative and whole-person care get completely undermined by a relentless tide of clinical notes that deconstruct and divide every patient and their health into a fourteen-item problem-based assessment every single damn day? Why do you reject the phrase urosepsis–equating it with a simple urinary tract infection–when every clinician ever trained up until the last decade knew EXACTLY what that meant? When did a person’s social history (SOCIAL HISTORY) become nothing more than a bullet-point assessment of their smoking, drinking, and drug habits? And why do I spend upwards of 80% of my time pandering to the ridiculous regulatory demands of clinical documentation when absolutely none of that replaces BEING THERE at the bedside for patients and their families when they’re at their absolute most vulnerable?

    So Medicine, go ahead and call me stubborn and stuck in my old ways at the ripe old age of 40…call me incapable or unaccepting of the need to adapt to changing times…call me a relic and a throwback and a hopelessly wistful dreamer about a past that can never be again…and I will call you so far lost in the details of the trees that you don’t even recognize the dark forest you’ve ventured into…and have escorted the rest of us into against our will. It is NOT the same forest that I proudly chose to enter 16 years ago. Unlike that one, this forest is dark, foreboding, all-consuming, disorienting, and immensely draining. But I will continue to do my best to shine a light for those in need and try to make the terrain as unscary and sensible as possible, despite your prodigiously misguided efforts to do the opposite.

    Because I know, in the grand scheme of things, who I ultimately must answer to in my lifetime. And it is not you.

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    • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
      June 9, 2016 at 7:58 pm

      Yeah, it’s yet another example of bureaucrats getting involved in areas they have neither the experience or knowledge to be meddling in. Last year (October) I decided to change primary care physicians from my inadequate clinic to a major clinic – my initial appointment was six months out. Come the appointment the doc, who hadn’t read my files before the appoinment, discovers that they’ve all been input to the medical records system incorrectly and can’t be read, do I gotta come back in three months, soonest thry can get me in.
      I knew the systems at my old clinic were most likely incompatable with my new one, and with the systems my other specialist docs used so I got paper copies of everything from everyone and handed them to the new clinic’s medical records office. They still got screwed up. Here we are, years after the Feds demanded and coughed up money for a transparent system tomprevent this and stuff’s just plain worse. Backdoor population control thru bureaucratic euthanasia.

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    • Pam's avatar Pam says:
      June 9, 2016 at 8:37 pm

      I know, not as personal friends though, several doctors who are hanging it up. Mostly they are older. Doctors who work alone will just send out a letter to their patients, saying their office is closing down in 30 or 60 days. I know some others who work in group medical centers, who are backing off on their schedules, not going in every day. My PCP from VA didn’t talk to me a lot about his personal life, but he said several times that he had to hang in because he was putting two boys through college. He has reduced his schedule. They seem to be strangling in all this red tape and reporting.

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    • The Tundra PA's avatar The Tundra PA says:
      June 9, 2016 at 10:03 pm

      Thank you for this, Stella. Precisely right. I have to spend more time documenting whether the patients have guns, and whether the guns have trigger locks, and whether the bullets are stored separately, and whether the home has smoke alarms and when the batteries were last changed, and whether everyone smokes outside or not, and whether a child feels bullied, and whether the whole family uses seat belts every time they get in the car…than I do listening to and examining the patient. Who only has a 15 minute appointment to begin with and who now has five major problems because they had to wait two months to get the appointment. Makes me want to SCREAM. As the author of the letter says, medicine is not the same field I entered 24 years ago. At this point I’m just waiting out one more year to pass until I can retire. And that’s a shame.

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      • Stella's avatar stella says:
        June 9, 2016 at 10:06 pm

        Yes it is a shame. I either lie about every one of those things, or say they aren’t anybody’s business, if questioned by a nurse or doctor. Most have very little to do with health, and are government intrusion.

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        • The Tundra PA's avatar The Tundra PA says:
          June 9, 2016 at 10:18 pm

          It’s all about complying with endless requirements for JCAHO (Joint Commission on Accreditation of Healthcare Organizations) and other such entities. I encourage people to respond with NOYB to most of it. I will never tell a healthcare provider anything about my guns.

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  17. lovely's avatar lovely says:
    June 9, 2016 at 6:36 pm

    If the world manages to right itself all of these officers are going to retire millionaires after a malicious prosecution suit.

    Judge Finds Prosecutors Withheld Evidence in Freddie Gray Officer Case

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-finds-prosecutors-withheld-evidence-freddie-gray-officer/story?id=39725459

    Judge Barry Williams was visibly angry in the Baltimore court, but he did not dismiss the charges against police officer Caesar Goodson, as his attorneys had requested. Williams is giving prosecutors until Monday to disclose any other relevant evidence they have withheld. Goodson was the driver of the van during the arrest of Gray, 25, last year.

    Goodson’s attorneys have argued that prosecutors withheld statements made last year by Donta Allen, a key witness. Allen was picked up by the Baltimore police van after Gray.

    In his original statement to police in April last year, Allen said he heard banging coming from Gray’s side of the vehicle. He gave a similar statement in a separate interview with prosecutors a month later, but the state never turned it over as evidence to defense attorneys. Williams found today that prosecutors committed a Brady violation — after Brady v. Maryland, a 1963 Supreme Court decision requiring prosecutors to disclose evidence that would aid the defense — because Allen’s May 2015 statement was deemed exculpatory evidence.

    “The state doesn’t get to decide whether or not to disclose information,” defense attorney Andrew Graham said. “The state sat on it for over a year. It’s not up to them to make that decision. Even a small piece of evidence may make a difference. It’s not fair to the defense.”

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    • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
      June 9, 2016 at 7:33 pm

      Here’s the problem, SCOTUS ruled a while bach that prosecutors have wide latitude in prosecuting cases to include withholding some evidence. Case in point was a New Orleans case where the DA’s office withheld evidence from the defense that well might have proved the defendant not guilty. You know that if the case goes to a civil trial the defense is probably goingbto use that precedent and if the defense has a sympathetic judge…..
      There may be some justice left in the system, I just don’t have a big enough shovel to dig for it.

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      • lovely's avatar lovely says:
        June 9, 2016 at 8:37 pm

        The prosecutor can withhold evidence that is non-exculpatory but helps to build their case, even there they have to turn over discovery so most evidence that is on the prosecutors plate is usually discernible through discovery. Attorney, “Receipt from Menards, Mr. Criminal? What might be on a receipt from Menards?” Criminal, “Ah well I bought a blue tarp at Menards but it has nothing to do with the blue tarp that they found the victim wrapped in.”

        Withholding Donta Allens statements? This evidence materially aids Goodson. I read that Judge William’s was visibly angry. My intuition and experience with people tells me that there is a war between Team Mosby and Team Bench. William’s has already put his head on the block for Mosby with bad decisions but she is continuously asking him to maliciously and with intent commit judicial misconduct and to do so with absolutely no smokescreen.

        The prosecution is in violation of the Brady Rule and just this March, SCOTUS ruled that prosecutors withholding favorable evidence is a denial of due process in Weary v. Cain.

        Click to access 14-10008_k537.pdf

        So the prosecutor at the hand of Mosby denied Goodson his civil rights. That is a big gun in Goodson’s quiver.

        Also I believe I am seeing signs of a “Trump Ripple” we may just get our justice system back. I have hope.

        On the other hand if Hillary survives her despicable deeds and becomes POTUS Mosby will likely be the next AG.

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        • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
          June 10, 2016 at 12:27 am

          The NOLA DA’s office witheld evidence that would have exculpated Mr Thompson and thereby put Mr Thompson in jail for 18 years, 14 of them on death row. When the ‘error’ msde by a prosecutor was discovered Mr Thompson was released and sued the DA’s office for $20 million and won. The DA’s office appealed and lost at every level up yonthe SCOTUS who ruled that the office was not responsible for an error an employee poorly trained (?) by said office. The NOLA DA’s office is generally thought far and wide to violate Bradyvas a matter of course but now they can do it, as could any other DA, and if caught just claim the prosecutor was poorly trained or was out sick on the day they covered Brady in the ‘prosecution for dimmies’ class.

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      • Wooly Covfefe's avatar Wooly Phlox says:
        June 9, 2016 at 10:13 pm

        Another case in point would be the entire contents of Trayvon Martin’s phone.

        Or his entire social media history.

        We all saw it. The jury didn’t. (And the public mob jury didn’t, either, unless any of us strapped them down and made them watch it.)

        Never mind the illegal chain of custody for that phone.

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        • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
          June 10, 2016 at 12:31 am

          Sometime it’s the law and sometimes it’s THE LAW. Jiggling the law in search of social justice in THE LAW is something ya just gotta do sometime bro.

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  18. czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
    June 9, 2016 at 6:52 pm

    How to open a gas station in Mississippi:

    1. Find a corner and build you entrance and exit slips in the most difficult positions possible for traffic trying to get in from ANY direction.
    2. Purchase a restroom that’s been condemned as unsanitary and unacceptable by the Mogadishu Depsrtment of Sanitation and install it without any upgrades.
    3. Coat the aforementioned restroom’s floor with some unknown substance that has a level of consistency somewhere between Post-It Notes and Gorilla Glue.
    Put in a sink that looks like it served in a halal slaughterhouse without benefit of cleaning forvthe last decade or two. Don’t forget to have cold water only running in a thin thread.
    4. Install a loop cloth hand-towel system whose towel rollers haven’t worked since the Carter administration leaving the color and consistency of that paper you used to color on in kindergarten.
    5. Hire staff whose looks and demeanor make you wonder if they auditioned for parts in Deliverance but were thought to be too creepy.

    Guess who was out on the road today?

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  19. Stella's avatar stella says:
    June 9, 2016 at 9:39 pm

    Some nice news, for a change:

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  20. Stella's avatar stella says:
    June 9, 2016 at 10:04 pm

    Now the ridiculous. I realize many people have seen this video, but I never did until tonight. A Japanese yodeling and singing in German to chickens.

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    • Wooly Covfefe's avatar Wooly Phlox says:
      June 9, 2016 at 10:19 pm

      Actually, that’s not ridiculous at all, Stella.

      It’s both meta and metaphor.

      It’s like us trying to argue with liberals, using dialectic.

      They don’t speak, or understand that language.

      Then again, some folks talk to their house plants.

      Heck, I talk to my cat.

      Okay, yeah it’s ridiculous. Not as ridiculous as Dali, though. Close.

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    • Pam's avatar Pam says:
      June 9, 2016 at 10:28 pm

      As my husband just said, “no matter how much you have seen, you have never seen it all.” He said to give you an A+ and somehow, his mind went to Trump and said Trump should put it in at the convention. I have no idea where that thought came from. His first thought, when he saw the Japanese guy singing German to chickens was “well, that wraps up WWII in some way.” Lol…who are the chickens?

      Thank you, Stella. I had no idea this was out there, and I don’t know who Bibi Hendl is either. A yodeler I presume? It was nice to see countryside and mountains and the village, since I was able to see some of that in person.

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    • ImpeachEmAll's avatar ImpeachEmAll says:
      June 9, 2016 at 10:39 pm

      Life
      if the USA
      and Allies
      lost WWII.

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    • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
      June 10, 2016 at 12:20 am

      Hey Mike, is this a redux of The Sound of Muchick? And…what are those silver things on his honorable trachten jacket???

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    • tessa50's avatar tessa50 says:
      June 10, 2016 at 5:24 pm

      I loved it! Was a riot and he looked so happy doing it!

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  21. czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
    June 10, 2016 at 1:00 pm

    Here ya are foljs, more stranger than fiction, read, laugh, enjoy: http://myfox8.com/2016/06/10/armed-robbers-attempt-to-rob-mcdonalds-full-of-special-forces-members/

    Makes me wonder if eating at McDonalds is part of the French special forces training regimen.

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