General Discussion, Sunday, May 22, 2016

IcelandChurch

i am a little church(no great cathedral)
far from the splendor and squalor of hurrying cities
-i do not worry if briefer days grow briefest,
i am not sorry when sun and rain make april
my life is the life of the reaper and the sower;
my prayers are prayers of earth’s own clumsily striving
(finding and losing and laughing and crying)children
whose any sadness or joy is my grief or my gladness
around me surges a miracle of unceasing
birth and glory and death and resurrection:
over my sleeping self float flaming symbols
of hope,and i wake to a perfect patience of mountains
i am a little church(far from the frantic
world with its rapture and anguish)at peace with nature
-i do not worry if longer nights grow longest;
i am not sorry when silence becomes singing
winter by spring,i lift my diminutive spire to
merciful Him Whose only now is forever:
standing erect in the deathless truth of His presence
(welcoming humbly His light and proudly His darkness)

e.e. cummings

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206 Responses to General Discussion, Sunday, May 22, 2016

  1. czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:

    Y’all asleep?

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  2. czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:

    Watching a piece on CBS tonite about the CIA. Thing that came to mind as they talked modern terrorism (codeword for Islamic terrorism) was the length an breadth of it. The special sort of started by talking about it with the first WTC bombings (I remember mentioning the first WTC bombing over at the CTH and someone flaming me back telling me I was crazy, 911 was the first) but if you want to look at it as such they started with us in the Phillipines before WWI, and poked us at various levels right up to 911.
    Anywho, I immediately thought of the apologists who endlessly tell us it’s not Islamic terrorism, it’s terrorism by thugs who’ve hijacked the good name of Islam as a cover. Yaaaawwwwwnnnnnnn.
    OK, hmmmmmm…..does that mean the US PC folks are wrong in condemning Nazism as a world view? Were the people who indiscriminately murdered millions of Jews, Gypsies, gays, Slavs and others just thugs hijacking the good name of the Nazi party? We were told that Nazis ran rampant through Europe murdering left and right just like we see Islamic forces doing now but … wait…the former were all Nazis while the latter are pretenders? I’m confused here.

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    • MaryfromMarin's avatar MaryfromMarin says:

      I’m confused here.

      That’s their goal.

      Liked by 3 people

      • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:

        Feds are busy working up excuses for the next terr attack and finding unique ways of blaming the victims for their own demises.

        Like

    • Pam's avatar Pam says:

      Don’t be confused. All those people we “goobers” (see Washington Post article on local “patriot militias” today) believe are evil, heartless spawn of Satan? Nah, no way. Let’s be consistent. Hitler was maybe just a thug. Poor guy, there had to be a reason. Stalin and all the rest? Let’s just don’t get too excited here, goobers.

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  3. lovely's avatar lovely says:

    Two circles that never have a chance of becoming a Venn diagram.

    Liked by 8 people

    • MaryfromMarin's avatar MaryfromMarin says:

      And those circles are waaaaay too close together.

      Liked by 3 people

      • lovely's avatar lovely says:

        It’s like showing a true scale of the universe, some things are just too big for a computer screen 😏

        Liked by 4 people

      • Pam's avatar Pam says:

        And The Truth Circle needs to be a billion times bigger than the Hillary Clinton black little speck. No disrespect to your presentation, Lovely. 🙂

        Liked by 5 people

        • lovely's avatar lovely says:

          The Beast on a black little speck shouting “I’m here, I’m here!” like Satan meets Dr. Seuss.

          Liked by 1 person

          • Pam's avatar Pam says:

            Yes, the problem is these little mini whatever-you-want-to-call-thems are running around our world leaving chaos and destruction in their wake. Personally I call them tools of Satan, but not everyone would. It makes it very difficult to discuss these things because people just don’t view the world from the same perspective. If one believes in a Creator, especially the Christian God, the perspective and potential understanding (although we cannot ultimately understand it all) is completely different than the views another might have. From a Christian perspective, God told us this would go on in the world until some time when it wouldn’t anymore. To others, that is nonsense, even though they see the wrongs and evils. That almost has us living in different universes, in a sense.

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      • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:

        Ya nailed that one afore I did, then agin it was obvious as the lies on her face

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  4. MaryfromMarin's avatar MaryfromMarin says:

    Interesting:

    Stop Being So Nice –The Enemy is Not

    http://comeandmakeit.blogspot.com/2016/05/stop-being-so-nice-enemy-is-not.html

    Liked by 2 people

  5. MaryfromMarin's avatar MaryfromMarin says:

    PC-based revisionist history–of children’ literature. Expect more to come:

    Sweden’s Holy War on Children’s Books

    http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/8086/sweden-childrens-books

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    • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:

      OK, he rewrites and Omar becomes an ISIS commander rampaging through western Syria chopping the heads off of Christians and burning captives alive. Abdullah becomes a Moslem intermediary whose sells stolen crude oil to ‘I zee nothink’ dealers and uses the profits to buy weapons on the black market that will arms ISIS. He can redo the story of a black jazz musician who passes out after a drug fix and sleeps it off wearing his sunglasses. Problems solved.

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  6. ZurichMike's avatar ZurichMike says:

    Breakfast

    Liked by 7 people

  7. ZurichMike's avatar ZurichMike says:

    Coffee

    Liked by 7 people

  8. ZurichMike's avatar ZurichMike says:

    Bourbon

    Liked by 8 people

    • MaryfromMarin's avatar MaryfromMarin says:

      Something for everyone:

      Liked by 9 people

    • lovely's avatar lovely says:

      Do you know there is such a lovely creation as …………

      Glazed Bacon Recipe – Maple Bourbon

      http://wonkywonderful.com/glazed-bacon-recipe-maple-bourbon/

      1/2 lb Bacon

      2 Tb Brown Sugar

      2 Tb Maple Syrup

      2 tsp Bourbon Whiskey

      Preheat oven to 350°

      Cut bacon strips in half. (optional) Mix together the brown sugar, maple syrup and whiskey.

      Transfer bacon strips to the glaze bowl and toss until evenly coated with bacon.

      Line a baking sheet with foil and place a rack on top.

      Lay bacon on the rack in a flat even layer.

      Bake for 25-30 minutes or until crispy. Watch closely the last 5 minutes because the bacon will burn quickly.

      Cool for 5 minutes before serving.

      ***

      🙂

      Liked by 7 people

      • ZurichMike's avatar ZurichMike says:

        Mmmmmmm. MMMMMMMM. Will be trying this out very, very soon. Thanks for posting!

        Liked by 5 people

      • Menagerie's avatar Menagerie says:

        I guess they just assume the part where you fill a cup with bourbon? Drink while cooking? Without the enticement of liquor I might never have become the one star chef I am today.

        Liked by 4 people

        • auscitizenmom's avatar auscitizenmom says:

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        • shiloh1973's avatar shiloh1973 says:

          The first big meal I ever cooked started out as a dinner party for four and ended up Thanksgiving dinner for 25! I was nineteen at the time and had never done solo Thanksgiving before. The moron who conned me into the deal called me at work at 10PM the night before and asked if it matter that the 32LB turkey was frozen! I left work, banged on my buddies dorm room door and we headed out.
          We had a couple of bottles of Rose’ wine that I was going to marinate the fruit in. After spending two hours in cold water thawing the turkey, there was not much wine left for the fruit. I pulled it off, I think, but I sure don’t remember a lot of it.

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        • The Tundra PA's avatar The Tundra PA says:

          Menagerie, you absolutely crack me up!

          And I have a question I’ve been meaning to ask you (since you attend the Cathedral of Saints Peter and Paul): did Peter and Paul know each other? Did they preach together in Rome? I would think that Paul, as a post-Resurrection apostle, would have sought out any of the original apostles who knew Jesus, to hear the stories first hand.

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          • Stella's avatar stella says:

            I’m no expert, but according to Wikipedia they both died in Rome about the same time. Makes sense that they knew one another.

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          • Menagerie's avatar Menagerie says:

            Tundra, yes, they did meet. The most memorable account, at least in my way of thinking, is when the passionate and intense Paul confronted Peter over the matter of circumcision. Here’s a link for you, but read it in Galatians too.

            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incident_at_Antioch

            We Catholics see this as, of course, one more Biblical evidence for the recognized leadership of Peter in the infancy of the Church. St. Paul, an apostle chosen directly by our Lord, surely as we see in his writings a man to be reckoned with, one who establishes many churches in far flung locations, a man never afraid of controversy, never unable to make a decision, takes this matter to Peter and the other leaders of the Church. The matter was resolved by Peter’s speech.

            Three years after Paul’s conversion he had spent time with Peter and James.

            While Peter and Paul both died in Rome, I do not know of them preaching there together.

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    • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:

      Here’s what ya needs in there: Old Rip Van Winkle ‘Pappy Van Winkle’s Family Reserve’ 23 Year Old Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey. I ever win the lottery and I’ll buy a bottle.

      Liked by 6 people

    • Menagerie's avatar Menagerie says:

      You are a true hero, never to be forgotten in my prayers. Thanks ZM. I’m about to go back to my smoothie diet, and they need a secret ingredient.

      Liked by 4 people

  9. ZurichMike's avatar ZurichMike says:

    Bacon, coffee, bourbon: ZurichMike’s Sunday Brunch

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  10. Morning all! Hope you all have a blessed Sunday!

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  11. Pam's avatar Pam says:

    Love the e e cummings, Stella. Beautiful.

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  12. WeeWeed's avatar WeeWeed says:

    Mornin’ kids!

    Liked by 7 people

    • Pam's avatar Pam says:

      Yes, but regular Fed employees haven’t had raises for years. Maybe 1%. For 3 years in recent past, nothing. Needless to say, non-Fed people didn’t feel very sorry for them. I felt sorry for my husband, though. He worked his b**t off and we were in the inflated cost of living DC area.

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      • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:

        And I’ll bet he had supervisors that couldn’t find their butts with both hands tied behind their backs. I do believe I’ve posted my sagas elsewhere on CTH over the years. If AQ or ISIS wants to destroy the US they should just stay out of the way and let the Federal civil service march on. Hey, they could always just get ‘Federally Protected Status and get vital jobs just handed to them.

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        • Pam's avatar Pam says:

          Well, Czar, it’s much more horrifying than that. His boss was someone he knew from college, and his boss was in the next level up from GS. And his boss “died.”

          Liked by 3 people

        • Pam's avatar Pam says:

          Moving right along…the lower-level supervisors were as you said, although they all worked hard. They were mind-melded to the system, whereas he came from the private sector after 30+ years. What a total shock that was. My husband could never do the social interaction, political office stuff. He was the brainy researcher type. So he would go and tell them “you guys are missing something here.” Or he would say “the Chinese are going to outdo us on this” and they were working on some pretty big stuff, but not weapons or military type things. He was the “inconvenient” irritant, so they just squashed him down and sort of sidelined him. He got to do the research he wanted to do anyway, but they never listened to anything he said.

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    • lovely's avatar lovely says:

      Good morning Nurse WeeWeed 🙂

      Liked by 2 people

  13. Pam's avatar Pam says:

    Years ago, I was very fortunate to be able to travel through Germany. Out in the country, there is a church: Pilgrimage Church of the Scourged Savior. I had never seen anything like this in my life.

    http://www.bavaria.by/pilgrimage-church-of-wies-at-pfaffenwinkel-unesco-bavaria

    The tourist ads call it The Wies Church (I don’t think they want to say the “Scourged Savior” part.)

    I’m frustrated because I wanted to show some pics. I never learned to do it from the web and don’t feel like the learning curve right now. But if it interests, look for images with the church name.

    The ceiling is flat, painted with the technique that you are standing under a huge dome. The whole church is in the Bavarian rococo style. Stunning! I arrived during a Mass. Poor Mass attendees — there are tourists milling around in their background. My mouth literally hung open as I wandered through that place after Mass. I didn’t even know the ceiling was flat until we left the building and I was reading material I had bought.

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  14. lovely's avatar lovely says:

    Another reason to give your money to someone other than Target.

    This Man Saved A Girl From Being Stabbed To Death And Now Target is Suing Him For It

    http://thefederalist.com/2016/05/19/this-man-saved-a-girl-from-being-stabbed-to-death-and-now-target-is-suing-him-for-it/

    Bottom line is the stabbing started outside but in the process of rescuing the girl and 2 other family members the altercation moved inside so Target is suing the hero for endangering other Target customers.

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  15. nyetneetot's avatar nyetneetot says:

    Mornin’ stella! (Smiter of those that ought to be smote) 😎 🍸 (Long Island Iced Tea)
    Mornin’ WeeWeed! (Master Mixologist Extrodinare) 😎 🍸 (Old Fashioned)
    Mornin’ Menagerie! 😎 |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| (Jack Daniels)
    Mornin’ Ad rem! (Queen Felis catus) 🐱 🍸 (Flaming Lamborghini)
    Mornin’ Sharon! 😎 🍸 (earthquake)
    Mornin’ ytz4mee! 😎 🍸 (cosmopolitan)
    Mornin’ partyzantski! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ texan59! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ ZurichMike! 🙂 🍸 (fuzzy navel)
    Mornin’ Col.(R) Ken! (hand salute) 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ czarowniczy! 🙂 |_| ( and Czarina 🙂 🍸 )
    Mornin’ letjusticeprevail2014! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ ctdar! 🙂 🍸 (grasshopper)
    Mornin’ tessa50! 🙂 🍸 (flaming volcano)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! 🙂 🍸 (sidecar)
    Mornin’ varsityward! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ MaryfromMarin! 😀 |_| (Mortlach)
    Mornin’ Wooly Phlox! (aka “taqiyyologist”) 🙂 |_| (Roy Rogers)
    Mornin’ Howie! 🙂 |_| (Classic Daiquiri)
    Mornin’ TwoLaine! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ Sha! 🙂 🍸 (Lemon Drop)
    Mornin’ BigMamaTEA! 🙂 🍸 (Harvey Wallbanger)
    Mornin’ cetera5! (aka “Cetera”) 🙂 |_| (Blackberry wine)
    Mornin’ The Tundra PA! 🙂 🍸 (bailey irish cream on the rocks)
    Mornin’ lovely! 🙂 🍸 (Tom and Jerry)
    Mornin’ michellc! 🙂 🍸 (Salty dog)
    Mornin’ auscitizenmom! 🙂 🍸 (Kiss on the Lips)
    Mornin’ Margaret-Ann! 🙂 🍸 (White Russian)
    Mornin’ Auntie Lib! 🙂 🍸
    Mornin’ holly100! 🙂 🍸
    Mornin’ Pam! 🙂
    Mornin’ ImpeachEmAll 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ Monroe! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ Les! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ shiloh1973! 🙂 |_| (Jack Daniels)
    Mornin’ TexasRanger! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ Ziiggii! 🙂 |_| (B52)
    Mornin’ oldiadguy! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ smiley! (“stuck in spambucket”) 🙂 🍸 (Spanish coffee)
    Mornin’ derk! (“Stellars”) 🙂 🍸 (Mudslide)
    Mornin’ Jacqueline Taylor Robson 🙂 🍸 (Shirley Temple)
    Mornin’ facebkwallflower! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ Ms. Cindy! (aka “Ms Cynlynn” aka “ms cynlynn”) 🙂 🍸
    Mornin’ sandandsea2015! 🙂 🍸
    Mornin’ whiners and complainers! ⭐ 😛 (No drink for you!)
    Mornin’ to people posting that I missed. 😳
    Mornin’ to all you lurkers! 😕

    Also just in case someday; mornin’ to Elvis Chupacabra and F.D.R. in Hell! :mrgreen:

    Breakfast!

    NEW and IMPROVED breakfast with extra bacon for ZurichMike!

    Pastries for coffee!

    = Unprintable phallic symbol

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  16. texan59's avatar texan59 says:

    Our favorite Sunday columnist takes on the “Constitutional Law Professor” this weekend. It should leave a mark. But when you don’t have a conscience I doubt it does much good. :evil

    http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/05/a_parttime_law_lecturer_vs_the_constitution.html#.V0GqSofI_nc.facebook

    Liked by 6 people

    • auscitizenmom's avatar auscitizenmom says:

      I think it is pretty clear this “Constitutional Law Professor” isn’t what he was touted to be and he doesn’t care about the Constitution at all.

      Liked by 3 people

    • nyetneetot's avatar nyetneetot says:

      I’ve noticed a shift in focus at the local level in the last 10 years or so. It seems to be more about winning than seeking “justice” for the prosecution.

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  17. auscitizenmom's avatar auscitizenmom says:

    I don’t know if they has been posted before. I think it is pretty good.
    Fox News Reporting – Donald Trump – The Disrupter | Special Report | Bret Baier (4-9-16)

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  18. shiloh1973's avatar shiloh1973 says:

    This is the church just South of me here in Eastern Washington. Rocklyn Church.

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  19. Stella's avatar stella says:

    Krauthammer declares the #NeverTrump movement to be the “loser of the week”

    Liked by 2 people

  20. lovely's avatar lovely says:

    Stolen from Twitter.

    Why are there no knock knock jokes about America?

    Freedom rings 😀

    Liked by 4 people

  21. auscitizenmom's avatar auscitizenmom says:

    I just heard on FOX that our Faux-Pres landed in Vietnam and WAS NOT greeted by high level Vietnamese officials. 😐

    Liked by 5 people

  22. doodahdaze's avatar Howie says:

    Democratic vs. Republican occupations.
    http://verdantlabs.com/politics_of_professions/

    Liked by 2 people

  23. texan59's avatar texan59 says:

    well, ain’t that somethin’. I got my like button back. Whitelisted the site and the hingus, or dingus, or whatever y’az all call it magically reappeared. heh! 😯

    Liked by 6 people

  24. Stella's avatar stella says:

    I have relatives (who shall remain nameless) who voted at this convention, and supported Cruz. I pointed out the futility of this position to them, but they cling to some hope that their Christian standard bearer can still prevail.

    http://truthfeed.com/?p=3600

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      • nyetneetot's avatar nyetneetot says:

        This is not a big surprise. I get E-Mail and snail mail from the WA GOP and they have been very clear that they will not support Trump. I’ve met some of these people in the past. Even before my current level of political understanding, I could tell they are not people I would want to know on a personal level. Smarmy.

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        • shiloh1973's avatar shiloh1973 says:

          Yup, I am here in Eastrn Washington and it kind of scares me the number of Cruzbots in this small town. Nice to know who they are in case the SH** hits the fan. I need to know who I can count on and who I have to worry about.

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          • nyetneetot's avatar nyetneetot says:

            I was talking to my wife about moving away from the city at one time. She pointed out a bit of history that may not be well known in the West. The people first to be drug into the streets during the revolutions were in the villages. The cities were the last places. As far as who you need to worry about, that would be everyone.

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            • shiloh1973's avatar shiloh1973 says:

              I am with you there. I am about nine miles from the nearest small town, with a really good view 360 degrees around the seven acres. The people in the cities will be waiting for the government to help them. They are easy to control. The villages and rural areas were the free thinkers and independent people. The city dwellers were more likely to disagree with the revolutionaries. The same holds true today.

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        • Menagerie's avatar Menagerie says:

          Ah, your standards are just higher because of your internet associations. We prolly drink better booze, eat more bacon, and absolutely have more fun.

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        • Stella's avatar stella says:

          My cousin and her husband are nice people who live north of Vancouver. They are very religious, and have ten children. My niece cousin has become very confrontational about this subject. Her husband is more reasonable, and has stated on Facebook that he will vote for Trump if he is the nominee. The husband is a bright guy who works IT for a bank; he once wrote a book about database design.

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    • Stella's avatar stella says:

      I have nothing against Christians, I’m sure you know that, but I won’t get into arguments about politics in which the discussion is about which man is the more authentic Christian.

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      • shiloh1973's avatar shiloh1973 says:

        Like I have said since the beginning. We are not elected a Pastor in Chief. The last thing I want is a strange religious zealot as President. The President needs to serve all Americans.

        Liked by 5 people

      • Menagerie's avatar Menagerie says:

        Unless they are throwing their guy up against Jesus there’s no real fun in it. 😀

        Liked by 4 people

      • michellc's avatar michellc says:

        I’ve only done that when they start in on how many times Trump has been married and kindly point out how Cruz’ parents both had been divorced and are divorced now and they can’t call them great Christians and what a great Christian upbringing Cruz had while saying Trump can’t be a Christian. If they push the issue then I bring up lying, which in their mind is crazy talk, because Cruz has never lied.

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  25. Stella's avatar stella says:

    Obama weighs selling U.S. arms to Hanoi in bitter irony for Vietnam veterans

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/22/obama-weighs-selling-us-arms-to-hanoi-in-bitter-ir/

    In a move that is raising concerns among some Vietnam War veterans, President Obama will discuss selling more U.S. arms to Hanoi during his visit to Vietnam that began Sunday night.

    Top White House advisers said Mr. Obama hasn’t made a decision whether to lift the partial U.S. embargo on sending military equipment to Vietnam, where more than 58,200 U.S. soldiers were killed before the fall of Saigon in 1975. But the administration sees advantages in easing the embargo, both as a warning to expansionist China and as leverage to compel the communist regime in Hanoi to improve its record on human rights.

    “We are thinking through how our evolving security cooperation [is] going to look moving forward,” said White House Deputy National Security Adviser Ben Rhodes. “They regularly raise this issue with us. We are looking at, of course, how our broader relationship is evolving, including our continued commitment to support human rights in Vietnam.” ….

    Well, Ben Rhodes is right on it, so we have nothing to worry about. /s

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