“Fourteen died in the holiday party carnage and 21 more were wounded, according to Burguan. He said two police officers suffered injuries in the subsequent shootout.
Authorities later found thousands more rounds of ammunition at the couple’s residence, 12 pipe bombs and hundreds of tools that “could be used to construct IEDs or pipe bombs,” the chief said.
Burguan said “we still don’t have a motive,” but speculated that the couple may have been planning more carnage.
“They were equipped … and they could have done another attack,” the chief said.”
Syed Rizwan Farook was apparently in touch with persons under surveillance by the FBI for international terrorism, and had been radicalized, although neither he or his wife were on a watch list, nor had they had any previous contact with law enforcement.
Indications are that since they had many more bombs, bomb makings, and ammunition, further attacks may have been planned.
Farook traveled to Saudi Arabia in 2013 for the Hajj. That is where he met the woman who he would later marry, and bring to the United States.
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Just doing a casual search for information, I see that there is already at least one YouTube video about how this is a hoax. SMH.
ADD: The Freemasons “did it”. They are the ones who are committing all of these shootings.
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Not the Jews this time?
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From what I gathered, some guy was interviewed at the scene, and he was wearing a Masonic ball cap. Hell, my dad always wore a Masonic ring, and HE wasn’t a weirdo.
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Naw. The media’s just covering up for those wiley Amish again.
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Yep, it was the Amish, had seen the buggy convoy about a month ago, with “California or Bust” stickers.
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I think it was the Jews, the confusion comes in because they were in an Amish buggy wearing Mason caps and Mormon vestments while sporting crucifixes with Bindis on their foreheads.
No wonder the LSM and FBI can’t figure a thing out.
The obvious green screen just confuses things more.
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Curious how the story of Syed leaving the party was barely noticed has morphed into;
“He stormed out in anger from the festivities”
*Shooter in CA massacre was in touch with terror subject*
http://nypost.com/2015/12/03/shooter-in-california-massacre-was-in-touch-with-terror-subject/
The Left is desperately trying to make this into something other than an Islamic terrorist attack. I wonder when the appeasers will realize that they themselves look just as tasty to the alligator as do the people trying to stop the alligator.
Apparently self preservation has been eroded from the Left apologists psyche along with any modicum of honesty.
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It is indeed interesting that the perp was in touch with terror subject individual(s). If we consider that one who uses, enables, supports and guides terror activities is therefore a “terrorist”. Much like one who handles pipes, pipe fittings and connects plumbing appliances is a “plumber”. A set of characteristics and activities define the person by function.
Stay with me here… I’ll wrap it up in neat bow momentarily.
So, it is then plausible and defensible, indeed LOGICAL to state that a political leader who funds, supports, directs and benefits from the acts of terrorists is indeed a terrorist themself.
Given this, I leave it to the dear readers to draw a conclusion on their own if a political “leader” (ahem… koff, koff) who on one hand pontificates, castigates and bores an audience to death while being depicted with Christ-like imagery yet also supports, uses, funds and assists something like ISIS is therefore a terrorist by definition.
Consider the differences between group A and group B:
A: Imad Mugineheh, Fidel Castro, Moammar Khadaffy, Kim il Sung, Supreme leader of Iran, House of Saud
B: Merkel, Putin, Erdogan, Obama, Mao, Stalin
Is the difference the mere presence of an election?
The reader should consider long and hard what the real difference is, if any.
I’ll lead off with suggesting that one group has much better suits and haircuts.
While the dead perps are thankfully expired, they are a symptom and a mere meat puppet of deep beneficiaries. I found it cynically laughable that this went off on a Trump event day. Is it unreasonable to think the one happened to suck up media bandwidth of the other? Is it unreasonable to consider that the event will be played to drive whatever totalitarian project forward? While there is nothing except time coincidence to link the 2, one is left to wonder, in the context of contemporary America, if there is some other factor at play.
postscript- this is at least as plausible as “global warming” secular apocalypse murmurings.
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Take a look at the video (below) where Loretta Lynch refers to the “wonderful opportunity” to effect change.
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Partz well said. Or how about the Al Capone saying not his exact words, “What’s the difference between me and the government? Government has a flag on the wall”.
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Just read they had GoPro cameras on their heads. They intended to survive, and possibly do more terror hits.
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Police chief is denying that they had GoPros.
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One thing is sure; they had lots more ammunition and makings for pipe bombs in their home.
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In the home;
12 Pipe bombs
2500 .223 rounds
2000 9mm rounds
In the car;
1400 .223 rounds
200 9mm rounds
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-san-bernardino-shooting-main-20151203-story.html
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Yeah, I heard the press conf.
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I’ve read some accounts on conservative blogs that a neighbor reported that at least six middle eastern men visited their home. Also said that his brother may be involved, and that they suspect a cell is active in the area. None of this is reported by the police, I don’t think.
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I’ve heard and read the same things. I still think the third person running away from the scene being an uninvolved third party who happened to have a warrant out and who happens to still be in jail a wee bit far fetched.
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Not making light, but in many circles, that’s not a lot of ammo. A few dozen too many pipe bombs tho. 👿
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Yep, I know it is just in light of their activities and all that …
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Tex, agree with you on the ammo on hand. 223/9mm around my house is double that found in the house. My purpose for that large quantity is two fold, target shooting and self defense. At the farm, or on the tractor, my 30-30 has 100 rd bandolier. When I go shopping or just too breakfast my 9mm + 17 rds, and 2 magazines. So your right, in some circles these punks were traveling light.
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Next thing you know, the sheeple will plead for moar GoPro control! Register all GoPros!
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Stella,
Frankly I am surprised that the clown brigades have not stepped up to live uploading. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1960782/upload-live-streaming-video-from-iphone-like-ustream-or-qik
I am a an aspiring semi-old guy and technically not “up” like all the cool kids are. This shall come to pass. At some point, who knows… maybe they’ll even get sponsored ads.
Cynicism? Sarcasm?… no, I actually think this is where this will move towards.
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I can’t find the original video anywhere yet, but National Review/Facebook has a video of Loretta Lynch saying that this is a “
marvelouswonderful opportunity” for them to effect change.https://www.facebook.com/nationalreview/
It’s down the page a bit.
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Here’s a copy I made (last few seconds are screwed up; sorry)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6L_oXAlVLk&feature=youtu.be
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I wonder how “wonderful” the victims and their families and friends in San Bernardino think the moment is?
The lack of humanity in these folks is unconscionable.
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Well, this is certainly in keeping with my personal belief that Progressives and Islamists operate in a mutual admiration society, because both ideological systems believe in the imposition of rigid, top-down command and control structures with escalating levels of punishment for dissidents. Violence is an acceptance tool for the advancement of goals, as is isolation, impoverishment, exile, etc. Those who seek to remove themselves from not only the purview but control of their socio-political framework are singled out as exemplars.
In the case of the “San Bernardino” shooter being “radicalized” is not a far stretch to claim that pretty much anyone who is a resident of California and not a conservative has been “radicalized” to one degree or another – simmering in a stew of racial, economic and educational divisions and resentments, fomented and fostered by the Democratic apparatus within the local and state governments and educational institutions. It is easy to target the most vulnerable citizens as a political statement, whether that is the physically disadvantaged cloistered in a community center, or a small business person trying to make a go of it outside of the already controlled and capitualed big chain store.
I put this link to my take on it (which is pretty wordy and won’t fit here) but I guess it would be okay to also embed the link here? for purposes of further discussion.
http://tinyurl.com/hopkoz5
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Violence is always an acceptable means to ends in all totalarian systems.
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YTZ,
A totalitarian system IS violence. It is the means, the end, the modus vivendi.
It is the Alpha and the Omega. Violence is the organizing principle. It is who is done to and who does the doing. In the end, a totalitarian system is the bureaucratization of evil, its practitioners evil incarnate.
It is worst when people learn to love their servitude. It is in this, the plague of cultural marxism, that is the mechanism of delivering that violence upon Americans.
Every time I hear “safe space”, “micro aggression”, “triggering” and all that special snowflake pablum, I hear the echoes of hobnail boots on cobbles at 0200 on a cold, damp night.
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For government officials to skip right to the part that they can use whatever event to drive their agenda… that has some really rough implications.
On 9 Nov 1938, Ernst vom Rath was killed and used as pretext for Kristallnacht.
On 4 Feb 1936, Wilhelm Gustloff was killed and used as pretext for the same.
Oh, PZ!
Oh, Really, dear reader?
Oh, yes….. yes indeedy do.
Fill in any “popular” “victim” into this methodology…. Freddie Gray, Trayvon, Mike whoever…. RFK, JFK, Malcontent X, Che (he really looked lifelike in his last pic)…did their deaths actually hurt “the system”, or were they useful indicators and rallying points so that MOAR GOOBERMINT could be leveraged?
L. Lynch is treading in some time worn hobnail boots there. Just saying for the record. One must consider how comfortable those boots are on the wearer.
As an aside, if moar government is supposed to fix/stop/prevent attacks, tragedies and social unrest…. surely there is a graph somewhere that indicates where they can claim victory? Surely with the level of law and legality in America, the progressive core idea and ideals would have us living in an earthly paradise by now. Heed this – “the revolution is permanent” , as in a permanent state of affairs that provides the reason for leviathan’s presence.
oops… I just received notification to return to Rm. 101
ps- which author was right, Orwell, or Huxley? Both? Dual credit?
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Yeah, “The Revolution is Permanent” indeed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permanent_revolution
Seen through that lens, it becomes obvious that the importation of jihadis and drug lord gangbangers is a necessary resupply in order to maintain the slow simmer of tension and insecurity with the attendant voluntary turnover of more money and more control that only moar government can fix.
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Don’t worry PZ developing plan on breaking you OUT of Rm. 101. Unless you have beer and women in there. If that’s the case I’m breaking in!
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Col. K,
There are 2 ways of looking at Room 101…
One way is to consider that I am in room 101 and things are not looking too good for me.
Alternatively, I find strength in realizing that I may be locked in room 101, but ALL THE OTHERS are locked in there with ME. I’ll take those odds.
As you may recall, I had a sojourn that I traded my youth and a disability for a time with Uncle Sam’s Misguided Children. There is an organizational fable that recalls that Chesty Puller of 1st Marines, when told that there were 10 Chinese Divisions surrounding him, he stated, “GOOD! we have them right where we want them!”
A book that I have read and is sitting around is “Last Stand of Fox Company”. https://www.mca-marines.org/leatherneck/bookreview/last-stand-fox-company-true-story-us-marines-combat This is a book that will make you break out in a cold sweat while reading. It covers the dynamics of a surrounded unit and crazy odds.
The beer… I am moving away from the heavily hopped. IPA can work ok. On the grounds of the old Army Security Agency complex at Vint Hill, Virginia, there is a brewery called “Old Bust Head”. They do ok. There is a “Cold War Museum in a separate building. The brewery does concerts in the summer.
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Mark Steyn’s take on it:
http://www.steynonline.com/7334/if-you-see-something
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Kate is good people. I read her blog compilation almost daily and comment infrequently. But she has a wonderful wry sense of humor. I’ve already been over there today weighing in on the “See Something STFU” thread, so it’s nice to know that others in the conservative sphere are viewing this through the same lens. No, it’s not “us”, it IS “them”.
http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/
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Steyn is great as usual.
*Which is why the most lavishly funded government and media on the planet are seriously debating whether “climate change” leads to “workplace violence”*.
*Because what else can you say?*
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Stella, Mark Steyn hit it right out of the park. The “See Something, Say Something” paradigm is only workable in a monolithic, ethnically homogeneous population. It is wholly unsuited in a multi cultural environment. Until the goobermint gets serious and values all American lives over the lives and hurt feelers of terrorists, the see something mantra will be a dangerous platitude. It is as dangerous and useless as wearing posies during plague time.
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So lets see we have Syed Farook and Tashfeen Malik both Muslims, who were in possession of at least 4000 rounds of .233 ammunition, 2200 rounds of 9mm ammunition, AR’s, handguns, and 15 pipe bombs, along with the makings for more pipe bombs, some of which the duo used to kill 14 people and wound 21 at a Christmas party.
Syed Farook and Tashfeen Malik have all the telltale signs of “radicalized” Muslims they spent time in Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, they slaughtered innocents, they engaged LE in warfare yet the folks investigating this massacre are still scratching their heads as they search diligently for a motive.
Or is the MSM scratching the PTB heads for them, as the PTB have grown too royal to scratch their own heads, that is about the only jury that is out on this one.
What a joke.
By the way MSNBC has been showing pictures of the young Farook without a beard. Tricky folks they are.
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lovely,
The whole “radicalization” schtick is bogus. It robs the clowns of their agency, their culpability in going down that road. It obliquely makes the terrorist a passive receptor of some message from some evil source.
It needs to be considered that people make choices. Sometimes I choose to eat oatmeal. Some people choose to become the instruments of Allah, just as I choose instant, or stovetop?
By externalizing the source of the problem “oh, Achnod was radicalized, it was not his fault!”, it is the same as “gun crime” when we all know that guns don’t kill people…people kill people. More accurately, the choices people make kill people. Firearms are inanimate objects with no ability to do anything save what people use them for. This same externalization is what we see in the BLM nuttiness. It resonates every time some PC utterance comes out of some angry undergrad.
Bottom line… this whole “radicalization” meme is a red herring. It is the topical lidocaine as they slide the needle in.
I will stipulate that there are people out there that are cognitive petri dishes that are ripe for inoculation. These 2 were not Manchurian Candidates. They chose the path and took the ride.
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Yep I know that, I was writing about the conveniently obtuse media and our government pretending that this was not an Islamic attack. Radicalized is their word that is why I emphasized it, I can’t figure out how to italicize or bold here 😦 . The lie is that the head scratchers are trying to figure out if this is work place violence, “radical Islam” or a combination of both. What a joke.
Notice when I refer to Sayed and Tasheen I simply refer to them as Muslim.
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Sayed and his beloved destroyed their electronic devices a day before the attacks. Now why would they do that? This whole thing is such a mystery.
**San Bernardino killers erased digital presence day before the attacks**
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/dec/3/syed-farook-tashfeen-malik-erased-digital-footprin/
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On a technical note; unless they were melted to puddles of goo, it may still be possible to retrieve data from the devices. If they had new android or ios, their data may be elsewhere as well.
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Cell phones smashed with a hammer (or something like a hammer) and tossed in the outside garbage is what I read. I also read that the missus phone was only a couple of days old. I don’t know about any of their other devices.
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That won’t cut it. They can still get data off it. I don’t know how much, but it’s not gone.
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Nyet,
It also may be a parallel construction opportunity
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/05/us-dea-sod-idUSBRE97409R20130805#1zK0e5Ust8j4kLvC.97
This is so out there, but here we are.
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Kinda reads like a Remo Williams a Chiun book…
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Nyet, when the pull stuff off of HDD, it is partly due to remanence (hysterisis of magnetic particles). What is the mechanism with solid state storage?
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USB Flash drives or Secure Digital cards, are products that incorporate Flash memory, technically called NAND Flash. SSDs and cell phones also use NAND.
One of the benefits of NAND Flash is its non-volatile storage of data. Unlike DRAM memory which must be powered continuously to retain data, NAND memory retains data even when the power is off.
While there are several vendor-specific SSD designs, there are primarily two types of NAND Flash widely used today, Single-Level Cell (SLC) and Multi-Level Cell (MLC). NAND Flash stores data in a large array of cells. Each cell can store data — one bit for cell for SLC NAND, and two bits per cell for MLC. So, SLC NAND would store a “0” or “1” in each cell, and MLC NAND would store “00”, “01”, “10”, or “11” in each cell. SLC and MLC NAND offer different levels of performance and endurance characteristics at different price points, with SLC being the higher performing and more costly of the two.
NAND cells are not designed to last forever — unlike DRAM, their cells will wear out over time when written to (Reads do not wear out NAND Flash like Writes do). So, NAND storage devices have a limited number of write cycles, although the impact on many storage devices is not significant because of Wear Leveling being carried out by the Flash controller that always resides on the device. All USB Flash drives, SD cards and SSDs have a NAND controller that manages the NAND Flash and performs such functions as Wear Leveling and Error Correction.
So, to prolong the life of NAND storage devices, the NAND Flash controller ensures that all data written is spread evenly across all physical blocks of the device so as not to wear-out one area of the NAND faster than another.
Android devices use NAND flash memory soldered directly to the logic board. Since NAND has a limited write cycles. Therefore, NAND failure is usually progressive failure of individual cells and lead to lower overall performance.
A hammer does not make the data fall out of the chips, and the data is written across all the chips in the device.
A hammer damages physical connections to the chip. The connections can be restored.
Now that we’ve looked at the physical side we need to address the logical side. In what format is the data written/stored in the chips. This knowledge is what allows for retrieving deleted contacts, messages, photos, etc.
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Perhaps a dull question Nyet but I’ve always heard that putting a very strong magnet on something like a cell phone will destroy/erase the data. True or urban legend?
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Flash memory uses floating gate transistors to store data, rather than the magnetic method used by hard disks. The presence of a magnetic field is not necessarily a problem for an SSD, but the rate of change of magnetic flux could cause damage:
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It’s not simply the strength of the magnetic field that matters, so much as the rate at which the field changes. If you go from strong field to no field very quickly or vice versa, then the change in magnetic flux can generate small voltages over wires, traces, etc. If the voltages are high enough, then they can cause damage.
So sticking any small electronic device in a MRI scanner would probably damage it, but you may still be able to retrieve data.
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Nyet,
I want to thank you for taking the time to write up a great summary of a complex topic. I learned a lot from your post!
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That I need way more coffee first thing I the morning?
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I echo partyzanski’s thanks for your thoughtful post. Thanks, nyet!
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I actually got sidetracked this morning and answered partyzanski’s question in the post to lovely.
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Thanks Nyet. Happy to hear it.
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Just heard that the hard drive was removed from their computer.
Farook family attorney “There was no planning here there was no evidence of any planning”.
Good gravy.
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Two Farook family attorneys were just on CNN one said Malik was 90 pounds and could not even carry a large gun, he said that Malik was handcuffed in the vehicle and he is implying that Farook and Malik are not guilty of this massacre.
Attorney *“Everyone is clueless”*
Farook family attorney David S Chesley *”Family completely shocked, the facts don’t make sense.”*
Farook family attorney “There was no planning here there was no evidence of any planning”
I didn’t catch the second attorney’s name though I believe his first name was……. wait for it …… Mohammed.
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lovely,
The assertion that a 90 pound person cannot hold & operate an “assault” rifle is absurd. The argument falls to dust when one considers child soldiers in Africa, often 8-13 years old, can tote, load, operate and maintain weapons.
Google “Kony child soldiers” for some heartbreak. Kony and the Lord’s Resistance Army is one of many. Child soldiers in the developing world are actually common.
I would even go so far as to say that the attorney’s assertion sans facts is misogynistic and part of the Liberal War on Women, it displays the attorney’s privilege and position in the Patriarchy.
Ok, any wave X feminists and liberation theologians are free to grade me on use of progressive rhetoric. I hope I passed, as I have been paying attention.
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Hi Patyzanski, of course it is absurd, everything he said was absurd. He also asserted at some point that Syed and his beloved were found handcuffed in the back of the SUV.
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Seems the destruction of the electronic devices was to protect members of the Muslim cell they belonged to from detection.
Breaking on CNN ….. ISIS connection made Malik pledged allegiance to ISIS leader al Baghdadi. Malik posted her allegiance on social media on FB under a different name.
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Assistant Director David Bowdich FBI agent has finally said the massacre is being *investigated* as an act of terrorism, *nice semantics* notice he didn’t call it an act of terrorism a couple reporters caught on to his words and Bowdich simply said there is good reason that we are *investigating it as an act of terror*
Rhut Rho! Bowdich gets testy and says that “The FBI is apolitical. We are a fact finding agency.”
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Hmmm….. FBI, “apolitical”. I’ll file THAT as a “faith-based” statement.
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Meanwhile a reporter asked Josh Earnest what was the difference between the vetting that Tashfeen Malik went through and the vetting the Syrian refugees will go through. Earnest turned red and was visibly perturbed. Josh of course spouted some nonsense about a 12 – 24 month vetting process that the Syrians are faced with.
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Yeah. I wonder how many of those months the Syrians will be in the United States.
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_ Hopefully this posts well for me _
Remember all the reports when they were saying 2 or three men came in shooting? (I know traumatized witnesses are prone to being wrong) , but there was not whisper of the possibility of one of the terrorists being a woman, remember that the reporting that Tashfeen Malik was a woman was at first solely based on the fact that Tashfeen was married to Sayed.
Look at that face, it is very masculine.
Look at this picture of a person in Muslim dress from Sayed’s apratment. The body is very masculine.
I remember the angst about the Boston bombers being Muslim but the Muslim connection was more easily accepted by the press and the WH than in this case. Something really, really odd is going on here.
All the stuff in that house other than the gross kitchen stuff looks almost new including the Qurans.
And I didn’t see a single feminine thing in that house. Plus the house is filthy.
Even the name Tashfeen Malik is perplexing.
http://shoebat.com/2015/12/03/88800/
*And the reason no one can locate her origin is most likely that her name is not really “Tashfeen Malik”. No one is able to find any female named “Tashfeen Malik”. The name is very unusual for a woman and there is no record of any Tashfeen Malik in the U.S. or even abroad in Arabic.*
*Tashfeen Malik (King) is a nom de guerre for a Muslim Jihadist from the annals of Muslim history. As he is known to Muslims “تاشفين ملك الموحدين” Tashfeen Malik Al-Muahideen, in English: Tafhseen King of the Unitarians (Muslims) and the conquerer of the west.*
*****
Short of it is I am not entirely convinced that Tashfeen Malik was a woman.
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Won’t the authorities know that – based on autopsy?
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Sure but they are all acting odd. Everyone looks angry at press conferences it could be something that they are keeping under wraps for now. I know it is far fetched but there is something odder than the normal odd here IMO.
Could be that there is Go-pro video out there, could be just Obama and his refusal to stand anywhere other than with Muslims but something is just off.
Why would that nutter attorney say that Tashfeen was a waif who couldn’t lift a gun? There is more than your usual obfuscation going on here.
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Absolutely. Even teh Donald alluded to something being “off” about Obama WRT to his approach to violent Islam and homegrown Jihad that other day.
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Stella,
My guess is that the autopsy records will never see the light of day. They will be memory holed.
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