Latest: Iran launches missiles into US air base in Iraq

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  1. jeans2nd's avatar jeans2nd says:

    Gee, Iran planned all this and carried it out just a few hours after Solememi’s funeral.

    Reuters reported 3 Jan 2020 Solemeni was in Iraq finalizing plans for attacks on Americans.

    This attack is named Operation Martyr Solemeni.

    Do you believe in coincidences?

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  2. czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:

    Something I posted next door. The firs sentence (rocket/missile) was in response to something Sundance had posted regarding the media using both terms and what that might mean.

    Primary difference between ‘missile’ and ‘rocket’ is the press’s blanket ignorance of what they’re covering, sort of like the problem they have with ‘assault rifle’.

    I’m betting the reason we’re not hearing much out of DoD is that damage assessment is being done and we have no desire to officially tell Iran how accurate their targeting is. They may be getting a rough idea from local sleepers as the attacks seem to be happening in Shia-devoid areas, meaning to me that their targeting is not anywhere near 100% and they didn’t want to hurt Shias if at all possible.

    I’m also betting they used mobile launchers and they know that we have a satellite overhead that has the job of sensing launches and determining launch points. They’re gonna move those launchers before we launch counter-battery fire and they’re going to have to refigure launching formulae and I wouldn’t want to be in one of those trailers when/if they fire again.

    I’m betting the targeteers have pulled up their IRG target book. The IRG is NOT part of or controlled by the military, matter of fact one of the reasons Khomeini formed it was to protect the regime from the military. The IRG is controlled by the religious arm of the government , sorta like Obama’s ‘civilian national security force’ that would have paralleled the military (already forgotten eh?). Hitting IRG targets without hitting military targets would send a message to the Iranian military that they’d be stupid to ignore. They don’t really like the IRG and resent its role. Cripple the IRG and all sorts of interesting things might happen.

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    • Stella's avatar stella says:

      They are reporting surface to surface missiles.

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      • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:

        If they were launched and they impacted they were surface-to-surface. The issue is that they’re either FROGS (free rockets over ground), SRBMs (short range ballistic missiles) or IRBMs (Intermediate range ballistic missiles). Rockets can be either unguided like the SCUD or have some internal guidance system that can rely on various guidance systems. What we look for is what is the missile’s type and that tells us how it got to where it landed.

        BTW, if the IRG were using GPS guidance we have the ability to ‘blur’ GPS over/around major targets.

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    • jeans2nd's avatar jeans2nd says:

      ya know how it is with these bombie-types…they all look the same…

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      • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:

        Yeah, when you’re the MSM and dealing with a public that can barely find Iran on a map it’s all the same.

        Interesting, the Fateh has inertial , GNS or electro-optical TERMINAL guidance. The Qiam is inertial guidance. I want to wait and see which missiles hit and which missed as with the Fatah it has the GNS/GPS which can be jammed and the electro-optical needs someone on the ground with a designator painting the target. I’m wondering if they just decided it was more betterer to let all of them go inertial, hence the big spread.

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        • jeans2nd's avatar jeans2nd says:

          Had to look this one up. See? Other people teach me stuff. Ceaselessly asking questions took me through my entire life.

          All the pretty people are now saying Iran purposely missed their targets. Seems more likely the Iranian guidance systems were faulty, if what the Iranians say were the missiles they used is true. The Iranian missiles sure worked targeting the Ukrainian airliner last night, it would seem.

          Oh, the joys of a dumbed-down public.

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          • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:

            Missiles with inertial guidance are generally too inaccurate to be used as ‘point’ weapons, you can’t reliably dropone on a dime but you can usually hit a bank. The GNS-type guidance is much more accurate but depends upon access to GPS satellites and can be jammed. The electro-optical is extremely accurate but generally requires an operator on-ground near the target and that’s a weakness.

            I really can’t buy the ‘they fired them as a warning’ crap, as I said before if I’m pissed at someone and I fire a gun at them to demonstrate the degree of my pique do I get off just because I say I didn’t mean to hurt someone?

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            • Stella's avatar stella says:

              An attempt to save face?

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              • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:

                We’ll never know for sure but now I’m hearing that Iran warned the Iraqi government before the launch that it was coming and US personnel were in bunkers.

                It seems the Iraqis were warned so that they could get their personnel out of the area but I’m sure they warned the US too. The DSP satellite package would have detected the launches and confirmed the Iraqi warning and commanders would have moved the troops into bunkers.

                It seems the Iranians MAY have fired the missiles as a revenge-with-no-real-impact warning but the fact remains that they fired missiles at a US facility that housed US personnel and put their lives in danger. The CEP of those missiles fired with inertial guidance isn’t all that great and they still could have hit US personnel.

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  3. rumpole2's avatar rumpole2 says:

    Pleased to hear there are no US casualties (if true)

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  4. rumpole2's avatar rumpole2 says:

    I hear talk that there is no need for Trump to respond.
    I would say that is NUTS. If Iran get away with this.. they WILL do it again.

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    • auscitizenmom's avatar auscitizenmom says:

      I agree.

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    • jeans2nd's avatar jeans2nd says:

      Nothing will suffice for Fake News unless and until we receive that iconic picture of Pres Trump huddled in the corner, hunched down, wearing the official U.S. Gubmint bomber jacket, looking worried, with Ivanka sitting at the table near tears.
      Fake News will need a few American casualties thrown in as well.

      You know, just like that pic of Obama/Clinton when somebody made the call to go after Bin Laden.
      Then Fake News will continue shredding Pres Trump no matter what he does.

      That said, if there are American casualties there is no question of a response. imo

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  5. rumpole2's avatar rumpole2 says:

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