General Discussion, Thursday, May 9, 2019

Posted on May 9, 2019 by Stella

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  1. czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
    May 9, 2019 at 1:55 am

    BUFF…brought into service in 1955, expected to still fly in service past mid-century. First one built in 1952, last one built in 1963.

    The ones in the air now have been in service to the point where the grandchildren of the pilots of the last one built are flying them now. The BUFF entered service ten years before I did and ten years after I left it’s still flying and delivering 9 kinds of hell to the bad guys.

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    • Col.(R) Ken's avatar Col.(R) Ken says:
      May 9, 2019 at 7:45 am

      Yeah….I remember an Arc Light msn in RVN (Laos)… the safety zone was 10-15 Ks. The ground shaking like an earthquake……..it was ‘71, Laos, and we were 5Ks north of Khe Sanh. We were watching movement along the Ho highway…..

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      • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
        May 9, 2019 at 10:14 am

        1968 at Khe Sahn, Operation Niagra where B-52s literally rained bombs on the hills around the base is credited with doing much of the work of breaking the siege. I got to see a couple of runs, you would actually bounce up and down off the ground if you were close enough and you felt that ground move to miles away.

        If the ground SAMs can be suppressed that Arc Light concept is still viable. 108 500-pound bombs from each BUFF appearing silentlt from 36,000 feet or better can be unnerving.

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      • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
        May 9, 2019 at 9:58 am

        In ’85 for an exercise one launched, from Barksdale I believe, and flew to an Egyptian base we were on – nonstop.

        Egyptians knew it was coming so it was no surprise. Not only did their creaky old Russian SAM site ‘protecting’ the base not pick it up but it came in so low and hot down the base’s runway it blew everyone away.

        It dropped a nice rack of bombs on their desert range, not as impressive as a full Arc Light but the best the EAF could muster is a dusty old Russian bomber schlepping over and tossing a few.

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        • WeeWeed's avatar WeeWeed says:
          May 9, 2019 at 10:45 am

          Back in the day the buffs from BAFB had a fleur de lis painted on the tail. No more….. now they just have LA.

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          • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
            May 9, 2019 at 10:53 am

            Standard AF tail letters designating basing. I’d also heard the AF made the pilots dial back on the nose art too. AF was generally humorless, I referred to it as working for Sears and wearing a uniform.

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    • czarina33's avatar czarina33 says:
      May 9, 2019 at 9:08 am

      I had a friend who worked on the line at Tinker AFB doing repair, maintenance & retrofitting on them.

      http://newsok.com/special/article/3924058/oklahomans-at-tinker-air-force-base-make-sure-b-52s-keep-soaring

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      • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
        May 9, 2019 at 10:43 am

        Back in the very early 60s when my dad was stationed at Tinker the base would hold a military day where locals could come on base and see static aircraft displays and tour certain facilities.

        In those days they’d open that hanger, called the ‘mile long hanger’ and you could wander thru. They’d park a B-52 outside and you’d see just how huge it is, then you’d go inside the hanger where another BUFF was parked and it was dwarfed.

        There was a track in the floor where the nose wheel would go and as it transited the building an army of workers would almost totally disassemble it, everything and anything on that plane could be repaired/replaced there. Scaffolding was there around the plane and workers were scampering up, on, around ans all over inside and out. At that time the Mercury program was space cutting edge so they’d take this monster hydraulic press , one of the largest in the US, and punch out/form silver dollar sized Mercury capsules for souvenirs.

        The highlight was there was a large field at the end of the runway across the road from the base. We’d camp out in that field and the B-52s would take off right over us, low enough for the engine noise to rattle your teeth. Coming up on 60 years and the plane and the building are still going strong.

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  2. nyetneetot's avatar nyetneetot says:
    May 9, 2019 at 5:05 am

    Mornin’ stella! (Smiter of those that ought to be smote) 😎 🍸 (Long Island Iced Tea)
    Mornin’ WeeWeed! (Master Mixologist Extrodinare) 😎 🍸 (Old Fashioned)
    Mornin’ Menagerie! 😎 |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| (Jack Daniels – Single Barrel)
    Mornin’ Ad rem! (Queen Felis catus) 🐱 🍸 (Flaming Lamborghini)
    Mornin’ Sharon! 😎 🍸 🍸 (earthquake)
    Mornin’ ytz4mee! 😎 🍸 (cosmopolitan)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! 🙂 🍸 (white wine and perrier)
    Mornin’ partyzantski! 🙂 |_| (Tom Collins)
    Mornin’ texan59! 🙂 |_| (Black & Tan)
    Mornin’ ZurichMike! 🙂 🍸 (fuzzy navel)
    Mornin’ Col.(R) Ken! (hand salute) 🙂 |_| (Boilermaker)
    Mornin’ czarina33! (aka czarina) 🙂 🍸 (Lynchburg Lemonade)
    Mornin’ czarowniczy! 🙂 |_| (Wild Turkey Rare Breed)
    Mornin’ letjusticeprevail2014! 🙂 |_| (Irish Car Bomb)
    Mornin’ Patriot1783-ctdar! (aka “ctdar”) 🙂 🍸 (grasshopper)
    Mornin’ tessa50! 🙂 🍸 (flaming volcano)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! 🙂 🍸 (sidecar)
    Mornin’ varsityward! 🙂 |_| (Godfather)
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    Mornin’ Wooly Covfefe! (aka “Wooly Phlox” aka “taqiyyologist”) 🙂 |_| (Roy Rogers)
    Mornin’ Howie! (aka “doodahdaze”) 🙂 |_| (Classic Daiquiri)
    Mornin’ TwoLaine! 🙂 |_| (Gin & Tonic)
    Mornin’ Sha! 🙂 🍸 (Lemon Drop)
    Mornin’ BigMamaTEA! 🙂 🍸 (Harvey Wallbanger)
    Mornin’ cetera5! (aka “Cetera”) 🙂 |_| (Blackberry wine)
    Mornin’ The Tundra PA! 🙂 🍸 (Gentleman Jack Whiskey Sling)
    Mornin’ lovely! 🙂 |_| (Backdraft)
    Mornin’ michellc! 🙂 🍸 (Salty dog)
    Mornin’ auscitizenmom! 🙂 🍸 (Kiss on the Lips)
    Mornin’ Margaret-Ann! 🙂 🍸 (White Russian)
    Mornin’ Auntie Lib! 🙂 🍸 (Tom and Jerry)
    Mornin’ holly100! 🙂 🍸 (Jack & Coke)
    Mornin’ Pam! 🙂 (Not even water)
    Mornin’ Ms.Tee! 🙂 🍸 (Mojito)
    Mornin’ koolkosherkitchen! 🙂 🍸 🍸 (Cuba Libre)
    Mornin’ ImpeachEmAll 🙂 |_| (Flaming Dr. Pepper)
    Mornin’ Monroe! 🙂 |_| (Stinger)
    Mornin’ Les! 🙂 |_| (Rusty Nail)
    Mornin’ shiloh1973! 🙂 |_| (Jack Daniels)
    Mornin’ TexasRanger! 🙂 |_| (Whiskey Smash)
    Mornin’ Ziiggii! 🙂 |_| (B52)
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    Mornin’ smiley! (“stuck in spambucket”) 🙂 🍸 (Spanish coffee)
    Mornin’ derk! (“Stellars”) 🙂 🍸 (Kamikaze)
    Mornin’ Jacqueline Taylor Robson 🙂 🍸 (Shirley Temple)
    Mornin’ facebkwallflower! 🙂 |_| (Night Train Express)
    Mornin’ Ms. Cindy! (aka “Ms Cynlynn” aka “ms cynlynn”) 🙂 🍸 (1970 ducru beaucaillou)
    Mornin’ sandandsea2015! 🙂 🍸 (1961 Château Montrose)
    Mornin’ amwick! 🙂 🍸 (Blue motorcycle)
    Mornin’ hocuspocus13! 🙂 🍸 (1970 Chateau Latour)
    Mornin’ Sloth1963! 🙂 🍸 (1971 Moulin Touchais)
    Mornin’ MTeresa! (Ex-lurker) 🙂 |_| (Albanian Raki Moskat)
    Mornin’ rheavolans! (aka “Rhea Salacia Volans”) 🙂 |_| (Hot Buttered Rum)
    Mornin’ joshua! 🙂 |_| (Mudslide)
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    Mornin’ litenmaus! 🙂 |_| (Stolichnaya elit, no ice)
    Mornin’ kinthenorthwest! 🙂 🍸 (A Lonely Island Lost in the Middle of a Foggy Sea)
    Mornin’ TwoLaine! 🙂 |_| (Smoking Bishop)
    Mornin’ patternpuzzler! 🙂 🍸 (Old Lady)
    Mornin’ Senatssekretär FREISTAAT DANZIG! 🙂 |_| (Red Russian)
    Mornin’ G-d&Country! 🙂 🍸 (Blind Russian)
    Mornin’ Gary! 🙂 |_| (Yuengling)
    Mornin’ valeriecurren! 🙂 🍸 (Flaming Sambuca)
    Mornin’ Lucille! 🙂 🍸 (Peach Schnapps)
    Mornin’ Lburg! 🙂 🍸 (Lburg lemonade)
    Mornin’ davidhuntpe! 🙂 |_| (Baileys Irish Cream on the rocks)
    Mornin’ skipper1961! 🙂 |_| (Brompton’s Cocktail – No cherry, no umbrella, no plastic monkey)
    Mornin’ mightyconservative! 🙂 |_| (Benjamin Franklin’s clarified milk punch)
    Mornin’ NC Nana! 🙂 🍸 (Beautiful)
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    Mornin’ whiners and complainers! 😛 (No drink for you!)
    Mornin’ to people posting that I missed. 😳
    Mornin’ to all you lurkers! 😕

    Also just in case someday; mornin’ to Elvis Chupacabra, F.D.R. in Hell and sundance! :mrgreen:

    Breakfast!

    NEW and IMPROVED breakfast with extra bacon for ZurichMike!

    Lemon Scones with Vanilla Lemon Glaze

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  3. WeeWeed's avatar WeeWeed says:
    May 9, 2019 at 8:11 am

    Mornin’ kids!

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  4. WeeWeed's avatar WeeWeed says:
    May 9, 2019 at 8:45 am

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  5. czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
    May 9, 2019 at 12:28 pm

    BTW, those ‘crew cab’ trucks so loved now – they’re a B-52 article. The SAC crews used to be on 24-hour alert. They’d live in a bunker by the planes, their planes armed, fueled and ready close by. At the alert they’d grab their gear, sprint to the trucks parked outside, toss their bags in the back and the crew would plop into the cab.

    The standard crew was six and as it was just a few feet from the bunker to the plane a little crowding was no issue. They were a [popular item at military surplus sales.

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  6. Lucille's avatar Lucille says:
    May 9, 2019 at 1:14 pm

    I’ve been donating to Move America Forward for years. Andrew Breitbart was an early supporter and actually that’s where I first heard of him…

    Troopathon Minute with Melanie Morgan
    Move America Forward: Care Packages for our Heroes

    Troopathon is an annual month-long Care Package drive held by Move America Forward (MAF) that culminates in a 7-hour long live T.V. and web broadcast where we will be interviewing some of your favorite pro-troop celebrities, movie stars, radio personalities, and military experts. The goal is to the largest single shipment of care packages to our troops this year!

    Troop and K9 Care Packages sponsored through Troopathon are the best and easiest way to donate to the troops. No running to the store, no confusing customs forms and postal regulations. Simply donate online, by phone or via check and MAF’s team of dedicated volunteers will send the care packages full of the absolute very best items with a personal message on your behalf. Every gift is tax-deductible!

    Home

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    • sandandsea2015's avatar sandandsea2015 says:
      May 9, 2019 at 1:20 pm

      That’s wonderful! Thank you for sharing, Lucille!

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      • Lucille's avatar Lucille says:
        May 9, 2019 at 2:15 pm

        They’re a great group. In the early days when I was sending packages myself to various military personnel in Iraq, it was because I knew their families. Then when the men were no longer deployed, I started donating to MAF…and it’s so much easier in every way.

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  7. auscitizenmom's avatar auscitizenmom says:
    May 9, 2019 at 2:06 pm

    If you would like a warm fuzzy to carry around today and to hear something positive about the President and First Lady, listen to this podcast by Michael Caputo. The President invited him to bring his family to the White House for a visit recently. Every time I think about it, I smile. That part of the podcast is in about the first half.

    If you aren’t familiar with his name, he is goes on CNN and FOXNEWS and speaks for the President. He worked on the campaign and then was caught up in the “Russia, Russia, Russia” Hoax investigation even though he had no information and had nothing to do with it. But, it drained his family’s finances and caused them a lot of trouble. I first noticed him when he asked for funds on Go Fund Me to help pay his lawyers. I sent in a pittance, as much as I could, and later found out that he had received much more than he needed to pay his legal fees. So, he used the excess to help others in his same situation who had worked on the campaign pay their legal fees which were bankrupting them.

    https://mailchi.mp/cd18afdc1f9b/new-michael-caputo-still-standing-podcast-up-at-stillstandingpodcastcom-week-1031361?e=6f807cc368

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    • Lucille's avatar Lucille says:
      May 9, 2019 at 5:25 pm

      How neat that the President and First Lady invited Caputo and his family to the White House. I bet our President does these kind of things often but we only hear about his gracious acts if the recipients tell about their experiences.

      When I tried to listen to the podcast, this notice popped up…”We could not find iTunes on your computer. You need iTunes to use Apple Music.”…even though I’m looking right at the iTunes musical note in my applications bar. Phooey!

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  8. lovely's avatar lovely says:
    May 9, 2019 at 2:17 pm

    Speaking of flying;

    I do remember this feeling but I didn’t get to do it often because the actual motion of swinging gave me motion sickness 😑.

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    • auscitizenmom's avatar auscitizenmom says:
      May 9, 2019 at 2:31 pm

      LOL My first husband couldn’t even watch me sit on a swing, much less swing on one himself, he had motion sickness so bad. He was in the Navy and, luckily for him, never sent to a ship. He couldn’t even stand on a dock and watch the ship move up and down slightly without getting sick.

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      • lovely's avatar lovely says:
        May 9, 2019 at 7:30 pm

        That would be me. The car being the one exception and small boats.

        There is something about the “swooping” motion that just makes me sick, I can’t watch it either without getting nauseous.

        Ferris wheel, merry go round, tilt-a-whirl all only happened once. Funny enough I can handle roller coasters and the Rotor 🙂 !

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        • auscitizenmom's avatar auscitizenmom says:
          May 9, 2019 at 8:27 pm

          I have always been able to read in the backseat of a car or any other vehicle, no problem on boats, tilt-a-whirl is great fun, but I can’t go “up”. That will make me sick. No roller coasters or ferris wheels.

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          • czarina33's avatar czarina33 says:
            May 9, 2019 at 9:41 pm

            No trouble with any of that for me. My mother had an iron stomach, so I guess I got it from her. During WWII she worked in LA and liked to go to the amusement park there, with the roller coaster that went out over the ocean. One night a couple of sailors offered to pay for her and her roommate to ride the roller coaster as many times as they wanted. The sailors ran out of money!

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  9. czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
    May 9, 2019 at 2:55 pm

    Something I just posted next door, thought I’d post it here too:

    There’s been a rash, more like a flood, of car burglaries in New Orleans. So far this year it’s twice what it was for all of last year and is still rolling along.

    Last night a husband and wife came out of their house when they heard their car alarm going off. Hubbie was armed and confronted the burglar who was in the back seat of his car. The crew that transported him there yelled at the perp to shoot, a gunfight ensued and the perp killed the wife.

    https://www.fox8live.com/2019/05/09/nopd-killed-another-injured-shooting-mid-city/

    Usual city pol talking heads are cautioning citizens not to take the law into their own hands, to cower in a corner and call NOPD (whose response time has shortened from ‘geological’ to ‘glacial’). Hints are that the shooting wouldn’t have happened had the husband not FORCED(!) the issue, endangering himself, his wife, any neighbors who’d have been hit by a missed shot fired by the provoked teen…oh yeah, it endangered the thug who was just a victim of they system. Sounds as if they’re laying the basis for tort lawyers to sue folks who try to defend their property.

    In a way it’s understandable. They mayor isn’t a local, she’s an L.A. political transplant and her ethos is working folks being disarmed and cowering like mice in a cat show as thugs plunder and pillage, it’s the new normal. The Chief of Police, a local, is an armed politician and was seemingly picked for his skill in tap dancing while spinning the crime as something we should learn to live with as it’s not as bad as it was and may be going lower…sometime…maybe…somewhere out there. In the meantime we have to go into NOLA tomorrow to tend our property and eat at our favorite Vietnamese restaurant. I think we’ll eat first just in case we have to wait for the police to respond.

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  10. Lucille's avatar Lucille says:
    May 9, 2019 at 3:09 pm

    Casablanca Opening Titles

    Casablanca suite performed live by the John Wilson Orchestra – BBC Proms 2013

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  11. czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
    May 9, 2019 at 4:42 pm

    Faced with the prospect of a few days with better than 50% rain and the garden being pudding we had to move. We got 50 feet of row tilled, fertilizer down, whole row raked and smoothed, twenty sets planted, 50 feet of soaker hose down and the whole row mulched with hay…just about 15 minutes before the thunderstorms hit. Rest and relaxation time now.

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  12. Stella's avatar stella says:
    May 9, 2019 at 5:26 pm

    Interesting article.

    It Sounds Crazy, But Fukushima, Chernobyl, And Three Mile Island Show Why Nuclear Is Inherently Safe

    But now, eight years after Fukushima, the best-available science clearly shows that Caldicott’s estimate of the number of people killed by nuclear accidents was off by one million. Radiation from Chernobyl will kill, at most, 200 people, while the radiation from Fukushima and Three Mile Island will kill zero people.

    In other words, the main lesson that should be drawn from the worst nuclear accidents is that nuclear energy has always been inherently safe…

    Nuclear’s worst accidents show that the technology has always been safe for the same, inherent reason that it has always had such a small environmental impact: the high energy density of its fuel.

    Splitting atoms to create heat, rather than than splitting chemical bonds through fire, requires tiny amounts of fuel. A single Coke can of uranium can provide enough energy for an entire high-energy life.

    When the worst occurs, and the fuel melts, the amount of particulate matter that escapes from the plant is insignificant in contrast to both the fiery explosions of fossil fuels and the daily emission of particulate matter from fossil- and biomass-burning homes, cars, and power plants, which kill seven million people a year.

    It’s not that nuclear energy never kills. It’s that nuclear’s death toll is vanishingly small. Consider nuclear’s global death toll in context. These are just annual deaths.

    – walking: 270,000
    – driving: 1,350,000
    – working: 2,300,000
    – air pollution: 4,200,000

    By contrast, nuclear’s death total is likely to be around 200…

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2019/03/11/it-sounds-crazy-but-fukushima-chernobyl-and-three-mile-island-show-why-nuclear-is-inherently-safe/?fbclid=IwAR12e7wDEPP1QQy2Zi_q7Ful8tvdAPOBpL3IpsdNwQeznflYCh8fhz2EKFg#69e3b8b61688

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  13. auscitizenmom's avatar auscitizenmom says:
    May 9, 2019 at 8:57 pm

    lilbirdee12’s prayer:

    Our Heavenly Father, Your children come to you tonight to ask for healing and peace throughout our country so that we may return to being One Nation Under God. Guide us to be leaders in Your Kingdom, spreading Your Love and Salvation to all. Forgive us our sins and deliver us from evil.

    Lord, we ask for a blanket of protection over all our troops and law enforcement who serve to defend and protect us. Bless our representatives with the strength and wisdom they need to achieve the path You have chosen for us.

    Please place Your Guardian Angels of Protection around Donald Trump and Mike Pence and their families as they seek to lead America back to You.

    Grant us patience, Lord, as the evil ones try to anger us and cause us to fall.
    Spread blessings over Israel and Netanyahu.

    We humbly ask that You please comfort those who are grieving and in pain.
    Thank you Father, for Your Love and the gift of Life.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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  14. auscitizenmom's avatar auscitizenmom says:
    May 9, 2019 at 8:58 pm

    A prayer for Justice Kavanaugh and Col. Flynn:

    Prayer to St. Michael

    St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle;
    be our defense against the wickedness and snares of the devil.
    May God rebuke him, we humbly pray;
    and do you, O prince of the heavenly host,
    by the power of God,
    thrust into hell Satan and the other evil spirits
    who prowl about the world for the ruin of souls.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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