General Discussion, Saturday, May 28, 2016

Posted on May 28, 2016 by Stella

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  1. czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
    May 28, 2016 at 12:10 am

    Almost thought I’d be third or worse…uhhh, so what?

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  2. shiloh1973's avatar shiloh1973 says:
    May 28, 2016 at 12:34 am

    Good morning all and good night. May the good Lord bless and keep us all.

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  3. MaryfromMarin's avatar MaryfromMarin says:
    May 28, 2016 at 12:53 am

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  4. nyetneetot's avatar nyetneetot says:
    May 28, 2016 at 6:38 am

    Mornin’ stella! (Smiter of those that ought to be smote) 😎 🍸 (Long Island Iced Tea)
    Mornin’ WeeWeed! (Master Mixologist Extrodinare) 😎 🍸 (Old Fashioned)
    Mornin’ Menagerie! 😎 |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| (Jack Daniels)
    Mornin’ Ad rem! (Queen Felis catus) 🐱 🍸 (Flaming Lamborghini)
    Mornin’ Sharon! 😎 🍸 (earthquake)
    Mornin’ ytz4mee! 😎 🍸 (cosmopolitan)
    Mornin’ partyzantski! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ texan59! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ ZurichMike! 🙂 🍸 (fuzzy navel)
    Mornin’ Col.(R) Ken! (hand salute) 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ czarowniczy! 🙂 |_| ( and Czarina 🙂 🍸 )
    Mornin’ letjusticeprevail2014! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ ctdar! 🙂 🍸 (grasshopper)
    Mornin’ tessa50! 🙂 🍸 (flaming volcano)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! 🙂 🍸 (sidecar)
    Mornin’ varsityward! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ MaryfromMarin! 😀 |_| (Mortlach)
    Mornin’ Wooly Phlox! (aka “taqiyyologist”) 🙂 |_| (Roy Rogers)
    Mornin’ Howie! 🙂 |_| (Classic Daiquiri)
    Mornin’ TwoLaine! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ Sha! 🙂 🍸 (Lemon Drop)
    Mornin’ BigMamaTEA! 🙂 🍸 (Harvey Wallbanger)
    Mornin’ cetera5! (aka “Cetera”) 🙂 |_| (Blackberry wine)
    Mornin’ The Tundra PA! 🙂 🍸 (bailey irish cream on the rocks)
    Mornin’ lovely! 🙂 |_| (Backdraft)
    Mornin’ michellc! 🙂 🍸 (Salty dog)
    Mornin’ auscitizenmom! 🙂 🍸 (Kiss on the Lips)
    Mornin’ Margaret-Ann! 🙂 🍸 (White Russian)
    Mornin’ Auntie Lib! 🙂 🍸 (Tom and Jerry)
    Mornin’ holly100! 🙂 🍸
    Mornin’ Pam! 🙂
    Mornin’ ImpeachEmAll 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ Monroe! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ Les! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ shiloh1973! 🙂 |_| (Jack Daniels)
    Mornin’ TexasRanger! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ Ziiggii! 🙂 |_| (B52)
    Mornin’ oldiadguy! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ smiley! (“stuck in spambucket”) 🙂 🍸 (Spanish coffee)
    Mornin’ derk! (“Stellars”) 🙂 🍸 (Mudslide)
    Mornin’ Jacqueline Taylor Robson 🙂 🍸 (Shirley Temple)
    Mornin’ facebkwallflower! 🙂 |_|
    Mornin’ Ms. Cindy! (aka “Ms Cynlynn” aka “ms cynlynn”) 🙂 🍸
    Mornin’ sandandsea2015! 🙂 🍸
    Mornin’ whiners and complainers! ⭐ 😛 (No drink for you!)
    Mornin’ to people posting that I missed. 😳
    Mornin’ to all you lurkers! 😕

    Also just in case someday; mornin’ to Elvis Chupacabra and F.D.R. in Hell! :mrgreen:

    Breakfast!

    NEW and IMPROVED breakfast with extra bacon for ZurichMike!

    Cinnamon rolls for coffee!

    ⭐ = Unprintable phallic symbol

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  5. nyetneetot's avatar nyetneetot says:
    May 28, 2016 at 6:40 am

    Coffee this morning is fake press….

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    • nyetneetot's avatar nyetneetot says:
      May 28, 2016 at 8:11 am

      As an employer, I have mixed feelings about theft and misuse of office supplies and the workers time that I paid for.

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      • Stella's avatar stella says:
        May 28, 2016 at 8:30 am

        Eventually, Post-It donated the supplies, and I think the ad agencies love the publicity.

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        • nyetneetot's avatar nyetneetot says:
          May 28, 2016 at 8:35 am

          I was commenting from my own perspective of course. Owners of many businesses currently have been indoctrinated to believe things like that are acceptable and even a right of the workers for their mental wellbeing.

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          • SwissMike (formerly ZurichMike)'s avatar ZurichMike says:
            May 28, 2016 at 9:36 am

            That similar to my feelings on “corporate social responsibility” — as if providing jobs and benefits to people in a comfortable setting, manufacturing goods or delivering services, and paying taxes to federal, state, and local government entities (supporting collectively all that a community needs) isn’t enough.

            I was once in charge of HR and the legal department at a small service company in gorgeous, modern office space. Each employee had a separate, large cubicle with dividers high enough for privacy and low enough to still see out of the floor to ceiling windows on all sides with views to forests and a lake. Our salaries and benefits were top tier in the area. We turned an executive office with private balcony into an employee lounge with nice furniture, computers with unrestricted internet access, and the balcony had plants and places for smokers to smoke. Two full-sized refrigerators in each our two kitchen area, two microwaves, nice seating, free bottled water, free covered parking. And yet the budding social justice warrior president (a total jerk who got the job and promptly ruined the company) decided we weren’t doing enough for the employees. He asked me to get “motivational artwork” for the walls — I jokingly said “How about one that says: ‘If you’re reading this, get back to work.'” He was not amused.

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      • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
        May 28, 2016 at 12:26 pm

        Welllll, as an employee, technically the notes haven’t been stolen as they are still on the property and, as for misuse, can the employer produce a written standard that specifically spells out the approved uses of Post-it notes?

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    • tessa50's avatar tessa50 says:
      May 30, 2016 at 12:26 am

      Not owning a company, I thought that was a riot and looked like a lot of fun!

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  7. doodahdaze's avatar Howie says:
    May 28, 2016 at 8:06 am

    Look out,,,Bonnie getting to Gulf Stream. Will intensify a bit I think. Eye forming now.

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  8. Stella's avatar stella says:
    May 28, 2016 at 8:10 am

    The continued dumbing down of America:

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    • doodahdaze's avatar Howie says:
      May 28, 2016 at 8:18 am

      This is learned behavior. All they are taught in school is globalism.

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    • nyetneetot's avatar nyetneetot says:
      May 28, 2016 at 8:19 am

      I like how the accepted answer for “Why did we fight the civil war?” is “To free the slaves.”
      Not according to the newspapers and books of the time.

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      • Col.(R) Ken's avatar Col.(R) Ken says:
        May 28, 2016 at 8:28 am

        “The Cry of Freedom”. Money, Money, Money……..

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      • auscitizenmom's avatar auscitizenmom says:
        May 28, 2016 at 8:58 am

        So many that he asked “who did fought in the Civil War?” had no idea what the Civil War was. And, these are probably the same people what want the Confederate Flag eradicated.

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        • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
          May 28, 2016 at 12:40 pm

          Well I don’t know about you all but I’m going to be glued to the TV on Memorial Day to watch the presentation of ‘Roots’. I’ll be getting MY history first hand and untainted by the revisionist coloring of thexGreat Blue-eyed Devil.

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        • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
          May 28, 2016 at 1:26 pm

          BTW, a number of on-the-street surveys have gound that the overwhelming majority of people asked to pick the Confederate flag out of a line-up incorrectly picked the star-and-bars battle flag instead of any the three official flags of the Confederate States of America.
          Pfffft, answer the prog revisionists, accuracy isn’t a requirement in the rewriting of history.

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      • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
        May 28, 2016 at 12:42 pm

        The basic historical ignorance of the American people was regularly pointed out by
        Jay Leno, one of the things that led to his being removed.

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        • Col.(R) Ken's avatar Col.(R) Ken says:
          May 28, 2016 at 10:38 pm

          Czar, that’s what they accuse our generation of, lacking knowledge of the governmental process, and US History. My first day in 7 th grade, US History Class, The test was name all of the states, state capitals, and all of the nations wars. I included the Indian Wars running before and after the Civil war as the longest and most forgotten war.
          Class was taught by retired Army Officer, WWII, Korean War veteran………

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          • Stella's avatar stella says:
            May 28, 2016 at 10:49 pm

            U.S. History was my favorite class. I was in that class the day that JFK was shot.

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            • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
              May 29, 2016 at 12:33 am

              It was dinnertime in Germany, AFN radio and TV broke in to announce his being shot and then his dewth. I first called Ms Katherine Lynch, our history teacher, who was from DC and she thought I was playing a tasteless practical joke.

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              • auscitizenmom's avatar auscitizenmom says:
                May 29, 2016 at 9:15 am

                Gee, I wonder whatever gave her the idea that you would do something like that? O_o

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                • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
                  May 29, 2016 at 10:32 am

                  Ms Lynch and I had a troubled relationship though her deep and abiding interrest in the Civil War prevented a total meltdown. I had my last class from her in 1965, in 1991 I foibd myself in DC and thoughtbto call her up. First thing she said was “so it’s you, not calling for bail eh? And by thevway, where’s that extra credit project you primised me?” It’s nice to know you’ve made such a lasting impression on a mentor.

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          • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
            May 29, 2016 at 12:36 am

            Yeah well, to the ignorant all knowledge is ignorance. Their other excuse is: “Sonwho the hell needs to know that?”.

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    • lovely's avatar lovely says:
      May 28, 2016 at 9:40 am

      May God bless and keep them always and may God forgive our country for forgetting them and their sacrifices.

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  9. WeeWeed's avatar WeeWeed says:
    May 28, 2016 at 8:40 am

    Mornin’ fun-lovers!

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  10. Jacqueline Taylor Robson's avatar Jacqueline Taylor Robson says:
    May 28, 2016 at 11:33 am

    Morning everyone! I’ve been away for a few weeks, but still reading what I can. I’m having some health issues and could use a few prayers, if possible.

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  11. Jacqueline Taylor Robson's avatar Jacqueline Taylor Robson says:
    May 28, 2016 at 12:27 pm

    Thanks, ya’ll! I ‘m hoping for the best and praying as well.

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  12. czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
    May 28, 2016 at 3:41 pm

    Sone years ago there was a lot of talk about the US developing a space-based kinetic weapons system. A satellite platform carrying a bundle of telephone pole size tungsten-alloy rods would be sailing about in orbit and, when ordered, would fire one or more at a target on the ground. The satellite would be orbiting at around 15,000 mph and the rods would leave orbit for their earthly target at about that speed. They lose velocity traveling through the earth’s atmosphere but would still pack enough energy upon impact to hit with the force a small nuclear weapon.
    Fast forward to present day and the Chinese testing their DF-21D ‘carrier killer’ missile. It’s designed to kill a US aircraft carrier by hitting it with tungsten penetrator fired from a land-based ICBM that would travel into space and impact on the carrier’s flight deck at 10 times the speed of sound. That much kinetic energy would easily equal or surpass the yield of a small to medium nuke.
    One of the main problems with a hypervelocity kinetic weapon is guidance. It’s very hard to control the course of a kinetic weapon traveling at super high velocities, and coordinating its impact requires targeting satellites and advanced computers to finely adjust the final trajectory to ensure a kill. China now has the satellites dedicated to their targeting systems and the required computers, satellite photography also found what appears to be the target outline of the flight deck of a US carrier with two very large craters in it.
    The carrier killer is one thing, the development of a steerable kinetic weapon would be considered acceptable as a defense system, but in the larger sense the use of the carrier killer to develop a space-based kinetic weapons system capable of attacking and destroying American cities with precision and no post-attack icky byproducts is a definate possibility. The ability to develop the dual-use technology for an ‘acceptable’ defense system solves a number of problems needed to develop a clean city-killer without fingerprints that would force the US to start ramping up its own program.
    It would also give the Chinese an ideal weapon to attack Japan if need be. Japan’s the primary threat to China in Asia and as long as China can threaten Japan with a non-nuke WMD the Japanese nationalists won’t have the hook to hang their hopes for a nuclear Japan on. The portability of the DF-21 and its 1200 mile range also gives it the ability to target a lot of other nations in Asia that China would like to intimidate.
    The Chinese have received, bought and stolen the spacectechnology that it took us decades to perfect. They are building their own space station that they will not share and are looking at heavy launch capabilities that would easily allow them to assemble a working kinetic energy weapon platform in space. If you don’t think they would then go back and look at their official pronouncements about colonizing the moon and building ‘defensive’ WMD-armed military stations there.
    The question is: would/could the US answer a conventional kinetic weapon attack by any country with a nuclear retaliation? The US is hedging about calling kinetic energy weapons WMDs as we’re looking at, or at least we’re, putting them in orbit. Our policy, which lately has waffled a bit, was to answer any WMD attack on the US or friend with a nuke response. Would a huge smoking non-nuclear hole in the middle of NYC or SF….OK, I’ll wait a minute for the cheering to go down a bit…there…nob-nuclear hole provoke a nuke response or would Congress and the POtuS/POTUS spend hours debating the response? What would the US do?
    Ah well, it’s all just speculation, plenty of time to warm up the denial on the back burner, summer’s on the way and there are too many fun things to think about.

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    • MaryfromMarin's avatar MaryfromMarin says:
      May 28, 2016 at 6:20 pm

      More joyful info to think about.

      IMO. a non-nuclear hole in the middle of ANY US city–w/exception of DC, which has it’s own logistical problems re: reactions–would not provoke a nuclear response. From this administration. Under President Trump? Very different answer, I should imagine.

      As far as spending hours debating a response? Only if you could pry BHO off the golf course.

      (The nuclear cloud in this image is not what you were talking about, but you get my drift.)

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    • Col.(R) Ken's avatar Col.(R) Ken says:
      May 28, 2016 at 10:44 pm

      How the Navy’s rail gun……

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      • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
        May 29, 2016 at 12:30 am

        Ladt I heard it was still chuggin’ along in R&D but hitting a kinetic warhead traveling at mach- whole-bunch with a railgun would be like hitting a bullet with a bullet. The research guys are working the entire deterrent spectrum but the space launched city killer is what bothers me. The DF-21 warhead has guidance that can be diddled with but the city killer’s a big dumb steel rod with no guidance system.

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    • tessa50's avatar tessa50 says:
      May 30, 2016 at 12:49 am

      If we didn’t respond with nukes, we are further gone than I think.

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      • czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
        May 30, 2016 at 12:55 am

        Strangely enough the final decision will probably be made by the President weighing in the answers provided by staff international lawyers. Does the destruction of a US city by a non-WMD device meet the requirement for a nuke retaliation by the US? If the US classifies a space-based mass driver weapon as a WMD then it is OK to make ’em glow. But the US seems reluctant to call them WMDs or prohibit them from being placed in space. Makes me wonder…..why?

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        • tessa50's avatar tessa50 says:
          May 30, 2016 at 12:59 am

          I really don’t know why it isn’t considered a weapon of mass destruction, but can you just imagine the outrage here if we didn’t hit back with nukes? I hope we never have to find out what whoever is in power would do, attorneys be damned.

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  13. czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
    May 28, 2016 at 8:11 pm

    Mary reminded me, the thong about Trump that bugs me is his disengagement from Asia, Japan in particular.
    Japan’s rather sensitive about China and China has no love for Japan. The Americans have a short memory, judt a very few years after WWII we were buying increasing amounts of consumer goods from Japan and Japanese food was all the craze. Of course we did it to get their economy going, have an ally in that area we could serve as a military base and keep the old militaty forces from capitalizing on the post-war misery and staging a comeback. When China started making its expansion plans known Japan was even more handy as the misery Japan inflicted on China was still fresh in the Chinese memory and would be for the forseeable future, China has no plans on having a warm glass of saki and a hug with the Japanese.
    Australia’s created a large issue by turning down the Japanese bid to build its new line of submarines in favor of a French company’s. The US, Australian, Japanese axis in the west Pacific is what’s meant to contain Chinese expansionism and secure the world’s sea shopping lanes there. If Trump starts a pullback or even a lessening of support to thevwest Pacific it will be a signal tomtne Chinese that there are real splits in the triumvirate and may ncourage them to be even more sggressive. Might also give that boost the Japanese nationalists are looking for to make them a nuke power – That could be accomplished in less than a year.

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  14. Stella's avatar stella says:
    May 28, 2016 at 10:33 pm

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  15. The Tundra PA's avatar The Tundra PA says:
    May 28, 2016 at 11:44 pm

    Haunting, surreal images of the desert in Utah, New Mexico, Arizona…

    http://www.theguardian.com/travel/gallery/2016/may/28/desert-photography-united-states-david-clapp

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  16. czarowniczy's avatar czarowniczy says:
    May 29, 2016 at 12:42 am

    I’m watching ‘A Bridge Too Far’. We had a few survivors of that action in the Polish labor battalion units in Vogelweh and Miesau when I lived over there. Fewer and fewer WWII vets of all sides waking up each day.

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