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General Discussion, Sunday, April 17, 2016
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There’s a place I’d like to see someday.
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You can see those types of organ pipe extrusions up along the Snake and Columbia Rivers.
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Fingals’ Cave on Staffa, too.
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Also Devil’s Postpile in Cal.
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I’ve never seen anything like it, I think it’s beautiful, I’ll have to see if there is anything like it near me, maybe up north near Lake Michigan or Lake Superior. Thanks Stella, this is one of my my favorites among the many gorgeous photos you post.
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What is it actually? I don’t understand.
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Giant’s Causeway in Northern Ireland. It’s a formation of basalt caused by an ancient volcanic eruption.
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Oh, cool. I thought it was something man-made.
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It does look like something that could be man made, doesn’t it?
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Yes.
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Did you ever see Devil’s Tower? It was the center of an ancient volcano:
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No. Never heard of it.
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It’s in Wyoming. If you get the chance, watch the movie, Close Encounters of the Third Kind. Devil’s Tower is one of the stars:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Close_Encounters_of_the_Third_Kind
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Oh, right. I remember something like that in the movie.
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Now you’ve ‘heard’ of it…
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Yes……..yes, I have. 🙂
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Cool.
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Yeah, been there, a really neat place. Our geology teacher years before the mashed potato thing took us on a tour of old neato volcanic sites in the West. One of the benefits of having spare change, liking roughing-it camping and going to college out west.
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Going to go read about it and look at more photos. The shapes are amazing. 🙂
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A reminder for next Saturday. Check to see if there is a location near you:
Protest Planned Parenthood on April 23rd
http://protestpp.com/#home
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Cells for possible cures to diseases and disorders, or a welfare check increase.
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Thank you Mary.
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You are welcome, Col. Bless you this Sunday!
Sunday blessings to all!
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Better late than never:
Swiss tank battalion could be sent to Italy border to stop ‘migrant onslaught’ – report
https://www.rt.com/news/339737-switzerland-tanks-italian-border/
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Nuthin’ quite says ‘no trespassing’ like a class-60 vehicle with a biiiiiig barrel pointed in your direction. A bit of irony is that Germany, which has spent years keeping Turkey out of the EU, is now at the mercy of Turkey as Turkey is the key to keeping refugees from flooding into Germany.
I don’t see the problem as much of. European thing, to me that’s a left-hand diversion by the US progressives of their right-hand’s flooding the US with 5th columnists.
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Not everyone can be taught but everyone can learn 😉
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Taught is OK too…
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Absolutely great day, in a sarcastic way, had two major pieces of equipment go tango uniform. Trying to getting thongs fixed that are beyond your organic abilities on a weekend is a treat (autocomplete did ‘thongs’ while I typed ‘things’ so instead of fixing it I thought I’d leave y’all with your own mental picture).
Tomorrow priorities and schedules are revised, a new cultivator’s put on line and made to eork, while the mower and old cultivator’s put on thr trailer to be towed to the repair shop where I’m sure the owner woll be upgrading his summer vacay plans. Life is one big carnival.
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I’m not even tempted to look for a thematic cartoon.
Hope you get it all sorted out ASAP, czar.
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Thanks but those of you out there who ranch/ farm know what I mean. I guess part of it is just less craftsmanship going into new items than did old. I know a few who have equipment oldr than I who have few problems with it other than a part breaking and there are machineshops here who’ll fix or make that part. The mega agra farms have their own maintenance facilities that work 24/7 but smaller types have to rely upon the others – it’s quantity output versus quality output.
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Czar, Yeah, JD dealer has made enough from me to pay off his Chesapeake Bay fishing boat! Spindle gears, and gear boxes….. I’m breaking ground tomorrow, corn and soybeans. Yes, I know it’s early, ground is soft, and still moist. No rain for another 5-6 days, only a heavy morning due.
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Yeah, and that’s what burns me, a wek or so of rain left ground puddingish but there’ll be thst period after a few days of drying where the texture will be perfect for breaking.
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And speaking of rain, sonce NBC bought The Weather Channel it seems that weather’s no longer an event, it’s subject to all the drama scripting that a primetime show is. The weather talkingheads don’t just report, they emotionally project the horror and life-changing angst that a1/4″ rainfall has on a msjor metro/suburban area.
Watching them, during a break, report on how flooding occurs and the dire consequences it has upon people who are too stipid, after years of being warned, to stay the £€%# out of swiftly running deep water. One would think that people of that ilk, and the gene pool in gene ral, might benefit from their not continuing their strain, but thrn that might impact on the number of viewers who watch the network offerings – in the self interests of NBC I guess.
Anyway, I noticed that they also failed t mention that rivers are there as that’s where the waters found the lowest/easiest spot to flow andbif you build huge urban areas thst you’ve largely flattened and paved over the water flows faster and deeper to those rivers whose floods make such of a fearful news video footage. We live with water in the sticks, it isn’t an intrusion in our planned, fluffed and buffed lives and we don’t get as upset when nature does what nature’s been doing since long before we were around. Then again we don’t have the time for folks like NBC t dictate our vews on nature.
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Weather whiners now aghast and emotionally evocativer over…..SNOW IN WYOMING! OMA, snow in Wyoming, a state noted for its late-April tropical climate. Seems I remember the old timers in Utah telling me never to plant tender vegetables before the 1st of May due to the potential for frost/snow late in the season. Maybe being from an older generation they just didn’t recognize climate change. Yeah, that’s right, that climate change is what killed off all the palm trees in Salt Lake City.
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We get snow in April in Michigan. I wouldn’t think of planting tender vegs before at least the 15th of May.
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Does it effect the palm trees?
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Only the ones that are outside.
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HEADLINES: ‘Clinste Change Destroys Michigan’s Historic Wild Palm Trees’.
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I have frond memories of those palm trees…
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Today it’s 78, blue skies, no clouds. Would seem to be safe – probably is – to plant tomatoes. I wouldn’t. I remember freezing nights as late as the end of May.
Not usually, but we get bad weather often enough on Memorial Day to make you think about it. Back in the day I used to go sailing on Lake Huron on Memorial Day weekend – moving the boat from Detroit to Caseville. As I remember, many times it was raining and in the forties, and we were wearing rain slickers. Did the same thing on the reverse trip in October. Lot of alcohol consumed, as I recall.
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Alcohol consumption here’s independent of weather condition, more like a whether condition – whether or nor we ran out.
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We have to worry about it because it does happen, but then for us if we wait too late then the hot summer will burn everything up, so it’s always a gamble.
The good thing about tomato plants is that they’re easy to protect when they’re smaller, newspapers, straw, coffee cans and buckets will keep them from freezing.
We’ve also used similar methods on the rest of the veggies, using tarps and tent stakes.
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I’ve used stakes and old sheets. Anything to keep the frost off.
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It’s always a lot of work for us because we have a lot of plants to cover and you can’t put off uncovering everything as soon as the temps get above freezing, but you do what you have to do.
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Doesn’t work that well down hueh, frost seeps in thru the arm and leg holes, the old hoods work right well though.
( thought I’d tos that in for any BGI monitoring the site )
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My sister lives in British Columbia. They grow a lot of vegies, but have such a short, choppy growing season, it is hard to get them to the ripe stage. They finally bought a small hothouse and it has worked perfectly. She was always having to plant in pots so they could bring them in the house on the “summer” nights when it dropped to 32*.
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Happy Sunday. Today’s brew is our regularly featured blend called hot, black, and strong, featuring fresh ground beans with no frills, no froufrou. BYO mug. 😀
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Menage, this is for you:
Trump Supporters Walk Out of Georgia Delegate Fight After Party Picks Cruz Supporter…’Uproar in the Hall’
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/04/16/trump-13/
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Thanks Stella. From what I am reading the Cruz people really know how to get their people in place, have a plan, and are executing it.
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Cruz has the entire GOP cabal telling him exactly when to jump and how high, all Cruz has to do is supply willing bodies, obey his orders and he will get the delegates.
It is nauseating how corrupt the entire political process has become.
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“It is nauseating how corrupt the entire political process has become.”
Just wait until you find out when exactly the “become” was…
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😉
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That is exactly what I think is happening. Cruz doesn’t have some kind of wonderful plan set up in each state. The GOP has their people and they have made them available to him to stop Trump.
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Exactly. If The GOP somehow manages to steal this from Trump the only gratification I will have is watching the vile Cruz’s face when his pals throw him under the bus so fast he doesn’t have time to look condescendingly smug.
Cruz is an insider that has been established, he is a Bush hack and this election has forced the man behind the curtain to be exposed. Cruz thinks because he was a covert insider, now exposed that the GOP has some loyalty to him.
The GOP has no loyalty to Cruz, not because they disagree with actual his politics but because they believe he is a a self-serving narcissist who enjoys nothing more than making other people look stupid and himself look smart, regardless of who those people are, friend or foe, Cruz has one goal to stroke his own disordered ego by proving he is the smartest man in the room.
IMO Cruz suffers from a delusional sense of self, he has no idea how anyone really sees him. He is a disturbing human being who should never have power over anything or anyone as it will only further corrupt his sense of his inner certainty that the universe would be a better place if he were “king of the world”.
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Party elite now find themselves in the same position they’ve put us in for years, backing the least objectionable candidate.
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I was talking to a couple last night he had voted for Cruz in our primary, she had voted for Rubio. He said he had always known every state had their own rules for the primaries as far as caucuses and primaries and he knew you were basically voting for delegates not the candidate and knew each state allotted the delegates differently, but he never knew states could go against the will of the voters and elect delegates that weren’t voted for by the people and in the case of Colorado the people weren’t allowed to vote at all. He said he had always considered himself well informed but now realizes he’s not been as informed as he thought.
She admitted she wasn’t well informed and just voted and hoped for the best, but doesn’t really pay any attention to how they vote once they get elected and doesn’t understand all the rules about delegates, so she doesn’t even try to understand.
They both agreed on one thing though and that is what they’ve learned is a system that is immoral and almost like a dictatorship anyway you look at it.
He said he had read all the negative stuff about Cruz but didn’t want to believe it because he wanted to believe he had not been wrong about Cruz when he had given him the maximum for his senate campaign and Presidential campaign. When he heard Cruz gloat over the Colorado delegates, which was gloating over telling American people you don’t need to have a voice we will be your voice it was like someone punched him in the gut.
She said unless something changes she’s not voting anymore if it doesn’t matter who you vote for if it’s not who the party wants your vote won’t count even if you voted with the majority.
He said that for the first time in his life he feels like his vote doesn’t count and if he votes at all in the general election it won’t be a vote for Cruz or whomever the party elects unless it’s Trump and it’s not because he even likes Trump or supports Trump but it’s because the majority of the people clearly want Trump and the party is telling those people we don’t care what you want and that is a dictatorship, not even a democracy and sure as hell not a Republic.
They both said the people need to take back our country and it’s more than obvious that isn’t going to happen at the voting booth when the long arm of the government is controlling the vote with the assistance of the parties and henchmen. I told him I agreed with him, but how does he propose we do that, because they make it nearly impossible to get on the inside and he said he didn’t really know, but a good start would be to show up at both conventions and raise hell and then start studying up on how others have succeeded in overthrowing governments.
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People are starting to realize why and how these politicians get elected.
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I have to admit as well that I was stupid when it came to the primary elections. I’ve been given my own wake up call this year of how it’s done in each state and it’s not only a system set up for corruption it’s a stupid system and that’s just with allowing PR, Guam, etc. to vote along with caucuses and this state is a winner take all, this one the delegates are split, but not the same way. Caucuses are ripe for corruption and then the rules after the fact of allowing delegates for a candidate who received none is pure corruption. It shouldn’t be that way and the only way delegates should be allowed to vote any other way is if candidates release them.
I, for one, would not want to participate in a caucus where people are campaigning and pressuring you and getting into your face and intimidating you. I admit to having a temper and I’d end up punching someone. 🙂
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I was totally unaware of the a corruption at the nominating level. And, that is all it is. And, I don’t know how I would handle someone getting in my face and trying to intimidate me. I have a temper, too.
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I tell you though what gets me the most this year are the people who should be against this corruption that keep screaming, “it’s the rules!” They’re fine with it because it’s helping their candidate get delegates.
I’ve lost a lot of respect for a lot of people I once admired.
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It drives me crazy when they keep saying Trump should have known the rules. They are talking past the real discussion, which is that it is all graft. Also, one finally said you would have to have been in politics for many years to understand how to deal with all the different rules and have an organization in each state to deal with them.
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The rules are corrupt and they don’t seem to care about that.
They also miss the fact that Trump’s appeal is that he is not a professional politician. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Cruz’ numbers went down after Colorado. I believe it’s because people are realizing that not only is he not the man they thought he was but those who believed him to be an outsider have realized he’s a professional politician.
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It is a corruption of the rules, stealing votes by intimidating delegates, stealing votes by holding clandestine sessions with pre-selected RNC operatives who are there solely to disenfranchise their states voters is a perversion of the rules.
The RNC members are the political Pharisees of our day and age.
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I am watching Shawn Spicer on Maria Bartiromo and he just said,
“what the chairman has argued is asked the members of the RNC……is to not make any recommendations. To leave this to the delegates who have been ELECTED BY THE GRASSROOTS. What this convention should be about is ……….to empower delegates elected by folks from coast to coast to decide the direction, the nominee, the platform of this party for the next four years which they’ve done going back since the 1800’s……………Reince Priebus ….wants the delegates who have been ELECTED BY GRASSROOTS Republican VOTERS throughtout this country to decide the direction of the party, the platform, etc.”
Yeah, the VOTERS. RIGHT! 😦
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Those are the people that don’t know the difference between socialism and a free society. They know what they’ve been told and just follow along. Ludwig von Mises wrote in the early 1920’s that most people by that time didn’t know the difference. According to what he wrote, even the biggest champions of capitalism of the day didn’t actually know.
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I believe part of it is they don’t care and regardless if they want to pretend they’re totally different than the left, they are just the same when it comes to instant gratification.
It’s like the birthers to me that now are okay with Cruz. It’s not the argument of eligibility vs ineligibility, but that they believed being born in another country to a U.S. mother was against the constitution when it was Obama but is okay if it’s their guy.
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If someone got in my face I would take out my phone and start recording/live-streaming and I’d learn the penal codes for coercion, blackmail, intimidation, battery ( anything else that applied) and I’d have pre printed cards with those codes on it and ask the person how many laws they thought they were breaking as I handed them the card. Then I would say Cruz wants to import Muslim terrorists into their homes and try to provoke them into escalating their behavior.
Take no prisoners.
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Worked for Mussolini, Hitler, Stalin, Castro – now the Rats have their own little Goebbels, Gestapo and SS thugs.
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Thank you menagerie, great coffee with good morning reads……..
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Morning! Here’s an interesting exercise. Watch one of the 1964 Democrat Presidential campaign ads.
And Bill Buckley interviewing Goldwater, post election (watch this, NRO!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtN9ar_BPY8
It’s finally looking like Spring here. Warm weather, mid 70’s today, but no rain until Thursday, probably. Windows are open, fresh air in the house (I always look forward to that), and the dog likes to stay outside, napping on the patio.
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A fascinating glimpse at Saul Alinsky, compliments of Bill Buckley:
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History has plenty of examples of animals of animal lovers trying to pet the tiger, we’ve even found some of their remains.
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On Bill O’ Reilly
tonightlast night he said if you are a woman voting for Trump then write him and he might change his mind about the poll showing Trump being viewed negatively by females. Write to him at oreilly@foxnews.com, if you are so inclined.LikeLiked by 6 people
I sent an email.
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I did as well.
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Mornin’ kids! A haiku…..
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Mornin’ Wee!
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Mornin’ Michelle!
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Good morning WeeWeed 🙂
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Mornin’ Lovely!
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Oh! Ms.WeeWeed, making the Pacific plates move! Don’t worry about you Hawaii Islands investment hitting Japan just yet! Got too wait another 500 million years before those Islands smack Japan……..
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Mornin’ Colonel!
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That face. Lyin’ Ted. And now….Crooked Hillary!
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/276583-trump-reveals-new-nickname-for-clinton
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That’s Great, Thanks Howie! I can hear the howls from the Left as we speak!!!!
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Forgot too post the nickname, “Crooked Hillary”
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Thank you lovely, wishing you the same!
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Good morning Lovely.
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Mornin’ stella! (Smiter of those that ought to be smote) 😎 🍸 (Long Island Iced Tea)
(Jack Daniels)


( and Czarina 🙂 🍸 )

(Mortlach)
(Roy Rogers)

(Classic Daiquiri)


(Jack Daniels)
(B52)

Mornin’ WeeWeed! (Master Mixologist Extrodinare) 😎 🍸 (Old Fashioned)
Mornin’ Menagerie! 😎
Mornin’ Ad rem! (Queen Felis catus) 🐱 🍸 (Flaming Lamborghini)
Mornin’ Sharon! 😎 🍸 (earthquake)
Mornin’ ytz4mee! 😎 🍸 (cosmopolitan)
Mornin’ partyzantski! 🙂
Mornin’ texan59! 🙂
Mornin’ ZurichMike! 🙂 🍸 (fuzzy navel)
Mornin’ Col.(R) Ken! (hand salute) 🙂
Mornin’ czarowniczy! 🙂
Mornin’ letjusticeprevail2014! 🙂
Mornin’ ctdar! 🙂 🍸 (grasshopper)
Mornin’ tessa50! 🙂 🍸 (flaming volcano)
Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! 🙂 🍸 (sidecar)
Mornin’ varsityward! 🙂
Mornin’ MaryfromMarin! 😀
Mornin’ Wooly Phlox! (aka “taqiyyologist”) 🙂
Mornin’ Howie! 🙂
Mornin’ TwoLaine! 🙂
Mornin’ Sha! 🙂 🍸 (Lemon Drop)
Mornin’ BigMamaTEA! 🙂 🍸 (Harvey Wallbanger)
Mornin’ cetera5! (aka “Cetera”) 🙂
Mornin’ The Tundra PA! 🙂 🍸 (bailey irish cream on the rocks)
Mornin’ lovely! 🙂 🍸 (Tom and Jerry)
Mornin’ michellc! 🙂 🍸 (Salty dog)
Mornin’ auscitizenmom! 🙂 🍸 (Kiss on the Lips)
Mornin’ Margaret-Ann! 🙂 🍸 (White Russian)
Mornin’ Auntie Lib! 🙂 🍸
Mornin’ holly100! 🙂 🍸
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Mornin’ smiley! (“stuck in spambucket”) 🙂 🍸 (Spanish coffee)
Mornin’ derk! (“Stellars”) 🙂 🍸 (Mudslide)
Mornin’ Jacqueline Taylor Robson 🙂 🍸 (Shirley Temple)
Mornin’ facebkwallflower! 🙂
Mornin’ Ms. Cindy! (aka “Ms Cynlynn” aka “ms cynlynn”) 🙂 🍸
Mornin’ sandandsea2015! 🙂 🍸
Mornin’ whiners and complainers! ⭐ 😛 (No drink for you!)
Mornin’ to people posting that I missed. 😳
Mornin’ to all you lurkers! 😕
Also just in case someday; mornin’ to Elvis Chupacabra and F.D.R. in Hell!
Breakfast!
NEW and IMPROVED breakfast with extra bacon for ZurichMike!
Pastries for coffee!
⭐ = Unprintable phallic symbol
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Good morning Nyet 🙂
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Nye!!! Grabbing a plate, great breakfast, coffee, great fellowship!!! Thank you Nye!
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Mornin’ Nyet and everyone.
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Mornin’!
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Good day, Nyet … and ~All!
Wine with brunch? Why not… 😀
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Good-looking snack there…
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http://spectator.org/articles/66034/was-cruz%E2%80%99s-colorado-upset-good-thing-americans-yes
Before their very eyes a bargain that was fundamental to American’s perception of their relationship to the State was broken. It was bait and switch. They’d been convinced that the Republican Party was there to represent them. Not a group of elites called electors. Them. Individually. And on this assumption, people supported the Party. They campaigned for Republican candidates. They gave them their hard-earned money. They voted for them time and again.
They had done as they were asked and they thought the Party had an obligation to them to allow them to pick their candidate. And in Colorado they were mugged by the reality that the system was corrupt. It was more than just the loss of a few delegates. It was the loss of their innocence.
You see, they’d been told that all of the ills America had been suffering over the last 20 to 30 years were the fault of the Democrats. If we could only defeat the Democrats at the polls, then we could solve America’s problems.
We believed this despite the fact that the regulatory state kept growing and extending its tentacles into every aspect of our lives. Even up to the kind of light bulbs we could buy. We believed this despite the fact that our public schools were continuing to deteriorate, and even our private elite colleges could not be trusted to produce anything but sniveling, self-absorbed, freedom-hating, self-entitled little fascists whose curriculum included only courses with the word “studies” in them.
We believed this despite the fact that Trey Gowdy’s Commission was a pretense to help cover up the Benghazi mess and Hillary’s role in it. And that our own representatives conspired to give President Obama his despicable Iran nuclear arms deal, with only one Senator — Tom Cotton — voting “No” on the Corker Amendment that was designed to make it look like Republicans were fighting the deal while they were in fact facilitating it.
Ordinary Republicans are reviled not only because what happened in Colorado served to bring home how we’d been taken for patsies by our own party, but also by the jubilation that followed the cancellation of the vote and the consequent coronation of Cruz. “We did it. #NeverTrump” tweeted the Colorado GOP immediately after their victory.
Ted Cruz beamed and gave a thumbs-up to the in-crowd. The voters of Colorado were betrayed, but this man was beaming? Alfred E. Newman, in the flesh.
The Founders believed that a filtration system would protect America from corruption. But it hasn’t done so. Instead, it’s just the opposite. We have a system where a Ruling Class has risen to the top and will do whatever it needs to ensure its perpetuation. It isn’t concerned with the security of the country or the economic well-being of its citizens.
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Reince Priebus blasted for ‘major breach of trust’ by top RNC officials
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/apr/16/reince-priebus-blasted-major-breach-trust-top-rnc-/
From what I can see, the headline is misleading. The rule change that has been proposed is good, I believe, because it will help prevent the convention chairman from unilaterally reopening the nominations for president, instead requiring a majority vote of the delegates.
The “breach of trust,” according to the Ash email, was the failure by Mr. Priebus‘ Legal Counsel’s office to notify Rules Committee members that Oregon RNC member Solomon Yue had submitted a rules change, to be considered at Thursday’s Rules Committee meeting. Mr. Yue’s proposal would change the parliamentary rules for the national convention from the arcane Rules of the US House of Representatives to the widely used Robert’s Rules of Order.
Mr. Yue said he wants the convention to switch to Robert’s Rules to prevent the convention chairman from unilaterally reopening the nominations for president. Mr. Yue said House Rules can be interpreted to allow the chairman to do that; by contrast, Robert’s requires a majority vote of the delegates – some 70 percent of whom are expected to be either Trump or Cruz supporters and ill-incline to reopen nominations.
According to Mr. Yue, “establishment forces want to hijack the nomination with a ‘fresh face,’ as Karl Rove has said. Nominations should not be reopened without the consent of a majority of the delegates.”
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Roberts Rules is the bible for keeping order in business situations.
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270 years ago yesterday, the Jacobite Scottish Highlanders fought the British at Culloden Moor, suffering a crushing defeat, which would be the beginning of the end for the Scottish way of life.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Culloden
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Good morning, Stellar Friends! Today I am heading out for bush Alaska, where no roads go, for a week of fellowship with good friends that I haven’t seen for a year, a little work, and very spotty internet connections. I’ll read here as able, but probably not comment much until I return to civilization. Hoping the world holds itself together until then. Have a great week, all.
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You too, Tundra – and take care!
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Stay safe and enjoy. I envy you.
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Have fun!
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Can you smell the envy? BTW, don’t forget the little bear warning bells and pepper spray, PETA folks tell me it works right well, and yes I’ve heard the joke.
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Be safe Tundra, forget the bells and pepper spray. Pack a Winchester, or 30.06. Enjoy!!!
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Taking a break from cussing out the cultivator. Thought I’d pass on a few things you hear when city folks stop by your stead:
“Why do you have so many linch pins/shear pins/cotter pins?” May be heard in any combination.
“Doesn’t your wife get mad if you do welding on the front porch?”
“You want me to put my hand WHERE!?” Again, may be used in numerous situations.
Just random thiughts thst came to me while skinning knuckles on a recalcitrant bolt.
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We have a neighbor down the road, I do like him, but he makes me laugh. He’s retired, a lifelong city boy retired to the country life, a dream he always had.
He got his start of goats and chickens from us and that sort of made us his mentors. He had a goat having trouble birthing and called us, he reached my daughter and she told him to put a glove on and if he had lube to put it on and he stops her and says, “I have a work glove on, do you mean like tractor grease?”
She tells him, “no, lube, it’s like a clear stuff that they use on women. He says, “oh, like KY Jelly?” She tells him that will work and hears him yell at his wife, “do you have any KY Jelly?” She can hear her yell back, “what are you going to do with that?” He says, “I don’t know, I think put it on my glove.”
My daughter tells him, “you need like surgical/medical gloves.” He yells again, “honey do we got any rubber gloves?” She yells back, “what do you need them for?” He yells back, “I don’t know, but I need them.”
I wish I had been there because I know my daughter was probably about to explode from trying not to laugh.
So he gets a glove and KY Jelly and tells her he has them and she tells him to cover the glove well and then insert his hand inside the goat and see if he can feel any hooves. He says, “you want me to stick my hand in her woman parts?” She says, “yes.” He says, “you really want me to put my hand in there?” She says, “yes if you want to get that baby out of her, you have to stick your hand in there.” He says, “isn’t there something else we can do?” She says, “you can do a c-section, but I doubt you know how to do that and it’s much easier to pull it out than cut it out.”
He says, “I can’t do that,” and then the wife yells, “do what?” He yells, “she says I have to put my hand in her woman’s parts.” She yells, “why do you have to put your hand in there?”
My daughter asks, “do you want me to come down there?” He says, “oh god, will you please?”
So she goes and pulls the breech kid out, clears it’s head and mouth and shortly the second one starts coming, she gets the hooves out and then it’s stuck. She tells him to grab the hooves and pull straight down. He says, “I can’t, you do it.” She tells him, “if you’re going to raise goats you have to learn how to pull a goat, I’m not always going to be a phone call away and vets get expensive.” He finally does it and then says, “I birthed a goat!”
Then she finally let out all that laughter she’d been holding in.
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That’s one of the options. There’s also the pin in the pto, the drain in the barn’s manure sump, the pump in tbe septic tank, clearing wire and other objects from the field mower blades…the list goes on but you know.
Modt city vets have pix on their office walls of them lovingly holding Fluffy or Spot but ours has a few of him with his arm, up to his shoulder, in cows or horses doing pregnancy checks. You can always spot the newly arrived city folks in the office as they scan the pix.
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You know what I liked about the old vets? They’d teach you how to do that stuff. I was taught by an old vet how to pregnancy check a horse, it takes a little practice, but practice makes perfect. I don’t begrudge vets for wanting the money to do preg checks, but I’m glad I came from a time when they didn’t care to loose a little money to save you a penny or two.
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Ours will make farm-calls at night with what, by city terms, are really minimal costs. I did a lot of work with countey vets over the years, even bought me a Merck’s vet manual but there are some limits to what I’ll do though it’s handy to know what to do until the vet gets here if it comes to that.
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We don’t have the best of vets around here. The guy I really liked and trusted retired, another one died and the last one, although a younger guy moved back to NY. I think my Yankee vet was so good at his job because he grew up on a farm that was passed down several generations.
Plus, he was funny, the first time I met him I had taken a stool sample in and they sent me to the new guy in the office and he said, “yes I’m a Yankee, I talk funny and I grew up on a farm and yes there are farms in the state of NY and most importantly I believe in you and I having as many guns as we can afford to buy.”
From what I have left to choose from I use for things I have to have them for, although I often find myself having to push them in the right direction while making them think they came to the diagnosis and treatment.
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BTW, it took one of us helping him three or four times, but he can now pull a goat all on his own, his wife won’t even try, but he’s now an old pro. He has the worst luck with goats having problems, some he brings on himself by breeding them too soon, but he also has a lot of just nature problems.
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LOL You have the funniest stories.
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I wouldn’t have near the funny stories it wasn’t the new trend to be a “homesteader,” or “hobby farmer.”
So I give them all the credit. 🙂
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I think she’s really Zsa Zsa Gabor and it’s all the lost episodes of Green Acres.
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My father in law took vet classes, but he was not a vet. He grew up on a large dairy farm, and was one of those men who could do anything, thank God a talent he passed on to my husband.
He lived in a small rural town and used to be called by all the neighbors when their livestock had difficulty delivering or were sick. My husband almost always went with him when he was a little boy.
Once something was wrong with a pig, I don’t remember what, but he had to reach down his throat. He told my husband, only a boy, and apparently not nearly strong enough, to hold the pig’s mouth open. My husband couldn’t, the pig clamped down on my father in law’s wrist and he broke the pig’s neck to get his hand out. He was honest to a fault, usually brutally so, but this time he was unusually quick with words. The old farmer came in, saw the pig, and my father in law said “I couldn’t save him.” Which was true, my husband explained because he knew when the pig clamped down it was going to die.
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Dangerous stuff sticking your hand in a pig’s mouth. Not surprising he couldn’t hold it’s mouth open, lucky they came back with all their limbs. lol
They make hog snares and I’ve seen grown men who had trouble holding them even with them.
We clip our babies’ eye teeth and it’s hard even on them to hold their mouths open.
The vet stuff is just something you learn how to do over the years. We bring them out when we have to, such as the sow who wasn’t having babies and we couldn’t reach them. It didn’t do us much good though, which is usually the case. lol
Our vets are totally useless when it comes to goats and they aren’t too good with pigs either. At our vet clinic there are 6 or 7 vets always employed there, two guys know cows, one guy is good with horses and one lady is good with sheep and all of them know dogs and cats.
They’re so bad on goats they often call us if they have a goat they can’t figure out what is wrong with it and ask us if we’ve ever seen these symptoms before. Yet on the other hand when we tell them whether it’s wormer or antibiotic you have to overdose what it says on the label, they argue with us. Almost everything is off label when it comes to goats and we’ve learned through experience you have to give larger doses.
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From this month’s Reader’s Digest, an article called Why Cats Don’t Forgive…And other fascinating facts about closure and moving on.
Cats never forgive. Primates, like bonobos, mountain gorillas, and chimps, often follow confrontation with friendly behavior like embracing or kissing. Similar behavior has been observed in non primates like goats and hyenas; the only species that has so far failed to show outward signs of reconciliation is the domestic cat.
I’m going to go out on a limb here and speculate that all you cat people rolled your eyes at this in a what’s your point moment?
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LOL
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Case in point – 3 or 4 years ago I casually closed the bathroom door (as most of us are wont to do) and my huge black short-hair, Pye’s, tail was in the hinge side crack. I didn’t get it closed all the way, thank God, and it didn’t break his tail but I’ve NEVER been forgiven. I cannot be trusted around ANY doors. I may not be near ANY doors that he passes through.
I’m OK for all other stuff (so far) – but NOT doors.
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LOL
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Our Russian Blue mix, Arbie, was a rescue from a local attraction. She’d been around people as she knew that she could get free food at the straction. They fed her for a few days and put out a ‘please afopt’ email so we showed up. We patted her and she walked with us the 300 feet or so from tne attraction’s trailer to our truck, though the woods and over the creek – actually. We picked her up, put her in the truck and took herhhome.
For the three years we’ve had her she’s been as standoffish as she could be. She has tinned food each morning, access to unlimited dry food, she drinks primarily from a kitchen faucet she demands we turn on, has whole milk, ice cream, fresh meat/fish when we do, unlimited access to the entire house she can lounge on/shred at will, acees as she demands to i side/outside, a fat and overindulged inside cat who cuddles with her and cleans her – the list goes on – but she’s never forgiven us for taking her away from the parasite and cat-eating-predator environment she was in. She won’t sit with us, won’t acknowledge our existence exceotvwhen she wants something and lets the inside/outside cats know how unhappy dhevis with their kowtowing to the human oppressors who’ve removed her from her native lands and forced her into bondage in a strange new land.
We expect a visit from the CGI any day now…
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About the time we all got going on the blog next door, we had a feral Momma show up with her 5 feral young ‘uns. We dutifully fed, watered, spayed, neutered & shot them all. One by one over a period of about a year, each disappeared except for one last kitten…. and the years went by.
She remained an outside cat and pretty feral up until our move here. We set an elaborate plan/trap to get her in a carrier the night before the move and one hysterical girl screamed for nine solid hours down I-20 headed east with DH (her “Daddy.”) They beat me and the other screaming hysterical beasts here by about 2… maybe 2-1/2 hours. Anyway, being as how she was the first feline in the “new” house, it was HERS!!! Now, these other peasants exist here merely at her whim. It’s HER house, HER rules and byGod if they don’t comply.
Sometimes she’ll remember something one or another of them did to her and just casually walk up and b!tchslap ’em. 😀
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Arbie lets the borde colie slime her and plays chase through tne house with the pit cross. Outside she’s more standoffish but the orange outside cat is the friendliest cat we’ve ever had. He plays chae with Arbie and they go off rodent hunting togther. The outside cat sits with us in the garden, was even helping me fill in holes today as I planted sets. Inside cat just acts like a cat, eats and sleeps ignores everyone except when it’s convenient for him.
We have two really feral cat colonies in the woods but we don’t bother them and the only time we see them is if they’re out hunting along the road. Not sure how they get along with the bobcats, coons and skunks but the wildlife is more likely to come to the house than the feral cats.
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That’s why I prefer separate flights from the Mrs……..
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Well. You and Imam Hussein have something in common, eh?
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Oh stop! You mecca me laugh!
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😀 😀 😀
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Ah, my cut n’ paste didn’t work.
“Sometimes she’ll remember something one or another of them did to her and just casually walk up and b!tchslap ’em.”
That’s why I prefer separate flights from the Mrs……..
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I like that attitude myself. Sometimes I look at people, remember things they did or said, and have a strong urge to b!tchslap myself.
I think if I believed in reincarnation I would want to be a cat in my next life.
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Afternoon, folks.
Yup. And not just domestic cats. We have an alley cat that beats up on Tripod and used to beat up on Miss Kitty, and he’s feral, and huge. He showed up three years ago doing that, then took their home, a hole in the eaves of a brick building which gave them access to a warm loft all winter (I showed pics at CTH a few years back).
So I threw snowballs at him, and went up on the rooftops, put my head in the hole, and tried to do that weird, perhaps mythical, thing that certain martial arts jitsus do by trying to make a rabbit die by screaming at it.
The waitress who has been feeding T. and MK for ten years? He walks right up to her, because she feeds him.
Me? I open my door, (heck I touch my doorknob), and he runs like Cthulu is on his heels.
(She kept feeding him, I told her, a super-progressive, “This is the story of illegal immigration. And if Tripod gets killed by this little beast, you’re a big part of the reason why. You should have been throwing snowballs at him too.” Good thing that T is an indoor kitteh now.)
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Oddly enough, that’s sorta how I met the poor feral Momma cat… I’d been mean and running her off for months. 😦 In the end of it all, she was one of the sweetest beasts I’ve ever known.
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Just saw this on FB. Too funny not to share:
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I love this. It’s really worth the time.
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Just a reminder…
Freedom is not free.
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Just to be sure…
Freedom is not free.
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Thank you ImpeachEmAll. In retrospect, glad I started serving with what was left of the WW2 vets still in uniform.
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Took a break and sat out on thevpatio to recover – too dirty to sit i side, too tired to shower yet. We were looking at some trees we’d brought with us and planted here. We had a white oak acorn from onevof our neighbor’s tree, it was a Katrina casualty. But its offspring’s now about 15 feet tall and about 20 feet wide. Seems that regulsr belts of quality fertilizer, a high water table, great soil and full sun really works. Enough room under it to move a lawn chair and cooler, thank you Mother Nature.
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Watching Morgan Freeman on National Geographic explain to us in sonorous tones that God is BS and only fools believe in thevdivine.
I’m waiting for his sequel where he’ll expain to us that as the Hollywood crowd is composed of beings whose very existance transcends the Great Unwashed we should all worship them. I’ll go for that, we can declare them moon gods and goddesses and I will be glad to face west and moon them.
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Sounds like he’s quoting something written in France about 230+ years go.
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The Albigensian Crusade redux
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I was thinking more along the lines of Siècle des Lumières.
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I was thinking more along the lines of doctrinal realignment through superior firepower
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I received an email from Team Priebus asking me if I was still a Republican and was I going to let my membership to some Republican Cabal (which I never was a member of ) lapse.
I emailed them back;
Go to hell.
I got a reply asking if I forgot to include a donation with my correspondence 😄. Shiftless bastards.
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Man, those prostitutes have no shame.
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When’s the last happy ending you had with the current Republican leadership?
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I’m still waiting.
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Coyness interruptus – couldn’t pimp Bush III to us now they have to bring in the farm team. Hey Priebus, better get a 5-gallon drum of that lipstick and a roller…
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….and a trowel.
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Startin’ to drift back towards the Earl Scheib scenario…
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Well I responded with “Go to the deepest recesses of hell”. I’ll let you know if they keep begging.
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Suggest they hang out at likely looking intersections in the Hamptons equipped with squeegees and bottles of Perrier.
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I could offer to send them a tin cup and some pencils 🙂
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These toads are more into Christofle and Montegrappas
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‘Yes, I’m still a Republican, THAT’S why I’m telling you to go to hell.’
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ROTFLMAO
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We got a phone call earlier from someone for kasich, as soon as I heard the message start I ripped the cord out of the outlet so fast I can still feel hubby looking over at me
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