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The cloudy darkness and lightning in the background is appropriate as we move towards Good Friday.
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And the lightning.
ADD: Oops! You said that. Somebody needs sleep.
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Have a good night’s sleep, stella. You deserve it, with all you do.
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Thanks, Mary. The cat and dog don’t appreciate my need to sleep – at least in comparison to their need to eat.
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Beautiful picture Stella, looks like the backside of Mt Shasta. Hope you got your rest in.
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St. Helens.
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Ahhh. Thanks.
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You were in the right neighborhood!
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It is amazing how close they are. From the Oregon side looking south, which I have only seen a couple of times. love the lightning, we just had a good round a couple of days ago.
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Northern California to southern Washington
is a large neighborhood; although, they are
both left coast. Would take Forest Gump a
few days to stroll around the block and he runs. 😉
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She must have had a
premonition of Trump.
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Gorgeous full moon illuminating midlevel puffy translucent clouds moving fast on a southwest wind. Rain scheduled for Thursday but the son’s due on Friday.
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Was that pun intentional, czar? I hope so.
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Sure was
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I should never doubt you.
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Morning Czar, Mary!
Penumbra Lunar Eclipse this morning, local start time here is 0728. The overall time window for viewing is about four hours 0500-0900 . Enjoy!
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Yeah, was supposed to be a low-grade event here so Imhad to make a decision whether to see a fuzzy partial eclipse or a full eclipse of my eyelids.
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Decided to check for
cracks in my eyelids. 😉
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I see Mordor in that pic, Stella.
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That’s Mordor on the Potomac!!!
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(And that pic was that last straw for the guy formerly known as taq.)
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Gone; but not forgotten;
just like Team Treyvon. 😉
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Wooly did I say something wrong?
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I think he was referring to that post made under his old name sir. 🙂
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Col., Heck, no, Col.!
:salutes:
I meant that the beautiful field of flowers in Stella’s pic was what finally induced me to change my nic, having thought about changing it for months.
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I have been watching Star Trek Enterprise, the TV series. My favorite character is Dr. Phlox.
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Really? There’s a Dr. Phlox on Star Trek??
Ah (LOLOLOL)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phlox_%28Star_Trek%29
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Wednesday of Holy Week: known as the “silent day”, as nothing is recorded in Scripture as happening on this day. However, Thursday is filled with events, so I thought it would be okay to post a couple of them on tonight’s General Discussion Thread.
The Foot Washing [fresco by Giotto, in the Scrovegni Chapel, Padua, Italy, ca 1305]:
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Judas is in the middle of the group of three at the left; he has a cloudy halo (not surprisingly). Jesus is washing Peter’s feet. Note how Peter is scratching his head, in bewilderment at what Jesus is doing.
The little details in these paintings are masterful.
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I honestly feel sorry for Judas, he’s portrayed as the fall guy but his role was set long before his birth.
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Divine foreknowledge of the results of free will is not predestination.
But the predestination topic is a can of worms for another day. Or never, as the case may be.
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Isaiah 53 gives a good account as do some Psalms, the details were there, all God needed was a vessel. But you’re right, another day.
‘Yes, Sister Godzilla, I’m going back into the corner…”
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(BTW, I “liked” your comment primarily so you’d see my reply.)
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Kinda like how I actually, really, feel sorry for Barack, as he was literally conceived for this role by communists in Hawaii, then raised up by them to be their puppet.
I really do feel sorry for the man. I wouldn’t want to be a commie near him if he woke up to what was done to him.
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Taqi, well said, though one is complist in his/hers actions whether he realizes his actions or not. Okay I’m done, going to Nap a bit…..
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I have become so hard hearted, I can’t even begin to feel sorry for him. 😦
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Golf. poppers, and anal. And the occasional tele-prompter speech. And a cigarette, when he can get away with it.
That’s his whole life, right there. A puppet on strings.
With the rare occasion to feel free, without ever actually being free.
How sad is that life?
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Worsens with retirement.
Instant karma ubiquitous.
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Is is really necessary to be graphic? We all know what he is, and I prefer not to discuss it, if you don’t mind.
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(muffled lol)
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Taqi………….is that you???
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The same. (And, sorry, Stella. I’ll be more circumspect, henceforth.)
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Oh, dear. I don’t adjust easily. It will take some time. 😐
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Back to Mary’s free-will point…
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The Last Supper [fresco by Giotto, in the Scrovegni Chapel, Padua, Italy, ca 1305]:
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Judas is in the lower left hand corner, with his back to us. Again, his halo is purposefully indistinct. He is reaching into the dish at the same time as Jesus [Matthew 26:23].
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Or John 13:27. That’s why I feel Judas gets a tough break here as Christ predicts Judas’ actions before he gives him the bread. Guess who spent a lot of time jn the corner in catechism class.
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Commentary on the darkness and lightning above ^^^, from another place:
Tomorrow’s Civilizational Cringe Today [Mark Steyn]
http://www.steynonline.com/7493/tomorrow-civilizational-cringe-today
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Class:
Something one does not purchase.
You either have it or you do not.
This is a class act.
https://twitter.com/LainieYennie/status/710123421196279808
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That is early on when Ted and Donald were still cordial. The Cruz children were wandering around meeting everyone.
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Obama hits more wind resistantancn upon his return from Cuba.
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Instead of using normal take off speed, full power, about 250 mph, then do a hard right turn, then hard left……
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I was actually wondering if this bird could actually pull of a barrel-roll.
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Remember, it’s about the plane; not the girls. 😉
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Holy crap!!! Have never seen this tape before, all I have to say is WOW.
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Since you brought up Virgin Atlantic (sort of), I love this video:
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My son has never flown. He is getting ready to go across the country, think I will send him this link. Thanks, Stella.
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Brussels attacks: Fugitive Najim Laachraoui ‘arrested in Anderlecht by special forces unit’ according to reports – latest
Latest updates as Belgian authorities fear terrorists in bomb attacks on airport and Metro could still be on loose after suitcase and suicide belt blasts
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/belgium/12201893/Brussels-bombing-Belgium-terrorist-attacks-Isil-live.html
Seems that he and Abdeslam were associates. Abdeslam’s arrest seems to have been the the trigger which accelerated the Brussels attack.
Belgian Police Name Man Suspected of Being Salah Abdeslam’s Accomplice
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Belgium is now withdrawing the report that Najim Laachraoui was arrested.
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Coffee!
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Morning Menagerie, thank you! Need a few cups this morning.
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I need a few cups of something *slightly* stronger. 🙂
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It’s evening where you are.
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We are starting on the gin-and-tonics in about 10 minutes! Tonight is blustery and cold, so we’re having beef filet with hot pepper sauce and homemade *pommes dauphinois*. And a cheery fire in the fireplace.
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Excellent potato choice! Of course, almost any potato choice is excellent.
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Here…
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[b]Paris attacks: Salah Abdeslam ‘worth his weight in gold'[/b]
[i]Salah Abdeslam, a suspect in last year’s Paris attacks who was arrested in Belgium last week, is “worth his weight in gold” to investigators, his lawyer has said.
“He is collaborating… He is not maintaining his right to remain silent,” said lawyer Sven Mary.
Abdeslam was captured in a raid on an apartment in Brussels and is being interrogated by police.
He is the only surviving participant in the attacks in police custody.
However, Mr Mary denied media reports that Abdeslam, 26, would become an informer in return for more lenient treatment.
Abdeslam, a Belgian-born French national dubbed Europe’s most-wanted fugitive, is now fighting extradition to France.[/i]
There is only one reason Laachraoui was identified and captured so quickly. I wonder just how much the little coward Abdeslam is giving up. It sounds like the whole kitchen sink.
Abdeslamis singing like a canary. He is fighting extradition to France. I imagine Belgium has not promised him anything thing yet in a legally binding way or his attorney would not be going public. If anything was legally promised it is likely null and void now that Abdeslam’s attorney has warned Abdeslam’s co-barbarians that he is giving them up faster than you can draw a Mohammed cartoon.
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Sorry I did a copy and paste from elsewhere and I didn’t change my tags.
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Lovely, great spot report on the little bit$ch! Yeah he is singing, bragging about his exploits, a real tough guy. Look for an attempt too take him out……
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Well it seems reports are all over the place about who was arrested and the identities of 2 of the savages. A male suspect was definitely arrested around when it was reported that Najim Laachraoui was arrested. Now they are saying the guy in the light jacket hasn’t even been identified, let alone arrested.
Perhaps they learned something about holding their cards closer to their chest after Abdeslam’s attorney let all the barbarians know that Abdeslam was singing.
Time will tell. Or not.
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Col., Rhea Salacia Volans is asking after you over on the neighbor’s Open Thread.
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Thank you Stella, left a response, is it polite too say I’m over here?
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It’s okay with me!
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Mornin’ kids!
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good morning WeeWeed 🙂
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Mornin’ Lovely!
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Mornin’ Wee!
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Mornin’ Michelle!
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Morning Ms.WeeWeed! Looking forward to the rain tomorrow.
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Mornin’ Colonel!
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Morning everyone! I’m still sleep groggy, but woke to the Utah primary results. Ugh. I think less of Mormons than I used to, which was actually neutral. I hoped it would be a split decision, but that was not to be. Now we will have to listen to Ted crow about this for days – at least until the next primaries!
“There are three kinds of men. The ones that learn by readin’. The few who learn by observation.
The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.”
Will Rogers
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Good morning Stella!
I have different opinions of Mormons that I for the most part keep to myself. I’ll just say I did a lot of research when I learned a close family member to my husband married a Mormon and joined the religion. It caused a lot of hard feelings and almost knock down drag outs because of not respecting my wishes for my children to not be exposed. They tried constantly, even using their kids to try and brainwash my children. In the end it resulted in totally cutting them off.
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There was somebody over at CTH not too long ago crying that they were sick of all the anti-Mormon comments since they were Mormon (I can only assume it was something to do with Glenn Beck and Ted Cruz since I missed the “A Mormon walks into a bar” thread).
I don’t see many people think very deeply on their own anymore. They just follow what they are told to do from an authority in either the church or government.
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And I forgot the anarchist that only follow what their local community college professor tells them to do.
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My husband’s deceased grandmother belonged to a church, a large denomination, that believed only they were going to heaven. Not too uncommon, but the folks in her physical church believed that only they, the people in that little bitty congregation, were going to heaven.
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I actually thought for a little bit before posting (this one time). I could probable blather on about this bit of history or that, because I found the information interesting at some point. There have been a lot of efforts over the last thousand years to get in on the money making opportunities of having your own church. Some of them no longer exist. Some have only sprung (or re-sprung) into existence relatively recently. Learning history can cause people to question if they are truly on the correct path to know and follow God’s will. The non-Catholic recognized branches of Christianity have been very susceptible to the influences of socialism for the last 200+ years as well. History is something glossed over or controlled.
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I keep getting interrupted in real life here and don’t recall where I was going with this. This another one of those topics that could have it’s own blog anyway.
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And many in the Catholic Church have been complicit in socialism as well. The best example of that is liberation theology I guess, but Catholicism in many parishes and for many people is nothing but so called social justice, a term devoid of any justice at all in today’s society.
There are many nuns and priests who now actually teach that the virgin birth is a myth, and do not believe in the Real Presence, preach abortion as a right, and many other mystifyingly non Catholic teachings, in major Catholic universities. Unless these men and women stay in the Church to destroy it, I can’t imagine why they remain. It’s certainly not in observance of the vows they willingly took.
I read one comment yesterday that nailed it. You only get this in Catholicism. Can you imagine a university run by any Protestant denomination employing professors who teach outright lies against their faith? The guy who said that nailed it.
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That book I linked to a few months ago talked about how they had gotten people university appointments in the 1700’s to corrupt the churches. So it wasn’t just the Catholic universities. With over 200 years of attack, they are just the last to fall….
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This another one of those topics that could have it’s own blog anyway.
Indeed. I could do a whole blog about just Zondervan, Churchianity, and Max Lucado Blue Jeans.
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(The most comfortable way to enjoy listening to your Max Lucado Brand CDs, while looking at your Max Lucado Brand Thomas Kincade Calendar, while reading your Max Lucado Brand N.I.V. “bible”.)
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Nobody’s made me more cynical than Zondervan, ever.
Besides maybe CBD.
Cords = whip = money-changers’ tables overturned.
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I went to one of CBD’s trade shows once.
I cried afterwards.
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It was huge. Like 10 flea markets in one.
http://www.christianbook.com/
I was looking for cords to make into whips, before realizing: I’m not Jesus.
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I wish I’d had the presence of mind to just buy a simple leatherbound KJV, when I was there.
Instead I bought this 5″ thick, hardbound NASB (’95, before Lockman Foundation™ got rid of all the Thees and Thous because we’re all too stupid to understand those words.).
Oh, corporations and your copywritten “bibles”.
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Churches and religions are run by people, some good, some bad, and some deluded or nuts.
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I can only speak of the family I know when it comes to facts, but they do let others do their thinking including allowing elders to come into their home and checking up on them. No way would I allow anyone to come take stock of what is in my pantry.
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They are big on prepping.
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The only “personal” story I have about Mormons is from a former coworker. He and his wife decided to buy a home in Utah as a vacation home (I think her son lives out there). She moved out there ahead of him, while he was still working, and got a job etc.
They said that the people were the most unfriendly, cold, people they had ever known. Because they weren’t Mormons, of course. They were isolated by the community.
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Before I married my husband I knew nothing about Mormons and honestly never thought about it one way or the other.
My DH told me they were nuts and until I had children they never really bothered me but one time and I was told I should come to some kind of dance that was open to everyone and how it would take the addiction to smoking away.
I asked how that would happen and was told before he became a Mormon he drank a lot, dipped, drank tea and coffee and the church removed all of that from his life.
I told him thanks, but no thanks.
My DH just said, “I told you they were nuts.”
Then when my children were up school age they started saying things to them that ticked me off. We were at a family gathering and I saw his wife go sit down by my daughter and start talking to her. I walked close enough to hear what she was saying.
She was telling her all this cool stuff her kids get to do at their church and telling her how she should tell her parents to let her come sometime.
I interrupted her at that point and told her my kids were happy with their church.
Then I asked them both to come into the house because I needed to talk to them. At this point I had already been doing research. I told both of them that I ignore when we say blessings and they cross their arms, that I don’t care if they don’t drink caffeine and I have never said anything to them about their religion, but I would not tolerate them talking to my children about their religion and to leave my children alone.
She tried to claim she was just inviting my daughter to church things that were open to everyone. I told her not to do it again, because they would not be going and I expected them to respect my wishes.
It didn’t happen again for awhile and then their son started telling my son all of these things they get to do and told him how because he wasn’t Mormon he could never become a god, a lot of crazy stuff.
I didn’t know about it until after the fact, the two were playing together. Then my son started questioning me and I then I blew my top.
There were a lot of harsh words said and then they told me they weren’t going to deny their church or tell their son to deny their church. So I told them then my children would be kept away from them and we quit going to any family things that they would be at.
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Good for you.
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I’m all for living and let live, but don’t force your stuff on me and I was a mama bear when it came to my kids.
Telling my son that he could become a god set my blood on fire. It wasn’t the fault of their son though because he was just a child who was doing what he was taught.
I’m sorry but we don’t become perfect and we don’t become gods and we don’t have spiritual babies and we don’t pray people into another level. Now if you want to believe all of that more power to you, but don’t try to make me believe it and you certainly don’t try to make kids believe it.
Saying that is going to make me more enemies, but that is what they believed.
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We moved when my son was 10, and decided to try the Southern Baptist church down the street from us. Unfortunately, the sermon was on backsliding. When we walked out, my poor son looked stricken. He said, “Mom I thought when I accepted Christ, I was saved.” I just told him he was, and he was to ignore what that preacher said. Side note: Two weeks later that preacher was arrested for molesting two young girls. Maybe that is why he preached that sermon. I didn’t follow the trial, so I don’t know how it turned out.
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Oh and they thought I should be thankful since I was technically family I could be their servant while they sit on their throne.
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“I told her not to do it again, because they would not be going and I expected them to respect my wishes.”
You left the part out where you threatened to send goats to her home.
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Should have threatened her with an ornery cow we had at the time.
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….. There is a cow story?
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Not really a story, but I’m pretty sure that was around the time that we had an ornery cow. She started charging us when we’d go into the pasture. She did it one time too many and became hamburger.
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I believe it all depends upon the individual people. My first wife’s mother was a former LDS, we lived on what was then a small Utah town close to Salt Lake and were one of the very few non-LDS families in town, one of the others being my in-laws.
It was tougher for my ex-MIL as she grew up in that town as LDS and her family was one of the earlier settlers in the valley, she converted to her out-of-state husband’s religion and when they retired there more than a few of her childhood friends were cold to her.
On the the hand both they and we had a lot of LDS friends whose acceptance of people didn’t depend upon religious standing. Think about a Southern Baptist moving into Borough Park, Brooklyn, OY!
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That is something I always found strange about them, they didn’t try to convert friends or acquaintances. It was always family members. I’m not the only family member, including those who are blood who told them off or cut them off.
She and her family were also liars, they led him to believe that he could remain with his religion and she with hers until they were married. This all happened before I was in the picture, so I only know what the family told me.
They had a wedding ceremony at her father’s house with two preachers, well theirs aren’t called preachers.
Then she got pregnant, he was still attending his family’s Church up until that point. He then quit going to Church and when she was about 6 months pregnant he told his mother he was becoming a Mormon. They said she begged and pleaded and showed him everything she had learned about the religion, but he told her to never mention it again and either accept it or he would not speak to her again. Shortly after that conversation they went to Utah and had the official ceremony. You should read up on what all that entails if you haven’t already.
I haven’t spoken to him in years so I don’t know where he is on the level to become perfect now, but back then he was an elder, but not high enough up on the totem pole I guess to not have to be visited.
Like I say though you can believe anyway you wish as long as you leave me out of it. I only have to answer for my own sins. However, I do read and study my Bible and know when I’m being fed a load of manure.
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I’m quite familiar with their being sealed in a temple, I even got to tour the SLC temple years ago during a rare period it was open after renovations and before rededication.
I’m fairly sure that I’ve been baptized in absentia, maybe even sealed too, but it doesn’t bother me as it does many others – nice of someone to care that much?
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It doesn’t bother me; I just think it’s strange. How can a living person assume the identify of another living or dead person in order to undergo church sacraments?
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I kind of think Smith got into a lot of wacky weed back in the day.
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Imlook on the bright side, if I’m late for my resurrection there should bevsomeone holding my place in line and the paperwork will all be done.
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I am 100% in agreement with you. I had exactly the same experiences with my kids, except they were “saved” as children on three different occasions by adults we knew, of course when I wasn’t around, adults who knew we were Catholic, and not just in name only. Once my son, in kindergarten, came in hysterically crying that he was going to burn in hell because I wouldn’t let him go to Awana. My husband physically restrained me that day, would not let me go talk to the parents of the kids who said that. To this day I bitterly regret that he did that.
I never have, and never will, tried to talk to children about their religion, and certainly without parents present I would not do that. I hate what was done to my children, and no matter what Baptists believe about salvation, I believe, I know, that they victimized my kids, and that is a sin.
Religion should be something you can examine in full on daylight. Any person of any faith that has to be sneaky about it is, by their own actions, testifying to the validity and quality of that faith.
I do not consider Mormons a Christian faith. I agree with you, they are free to choose their own faith, and all can do as they wish. But you do not get to rewrite the Bible, redefine God Himself, and proclaim Jesus and Lucifer brothers, and still call yourself Christian. Many other problems with fitting the LDS church into the Christian box. I don’t get why they want to so much, unless because it would certainly be easier to convert someone who thinks they are just switching teams, so to speak, and not sports altogether.
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I’m a funny person I guess and I think part of that is I had parents who came from different denominations and I was exposed to different denominations.
When I would get confused as a kid and go to my mother she would tell me to read my Bible and I would find all my answers in there.
I believe because of that I take no man’s word or no Church’s word. I find things in almost every denomination’s doctrine I think they have wrong and think they have right.
What I do believe though is if you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord Savior and ask for forgiveness and repent you are saved. Denominations can differ on doctrines but any doctrine that denies that is not Christian in my understanding of God’s Word and my faith.
Although I believe with all my heart and soul that Mormons are not Christian and the Bible backs that up, I still would have never told that to their children. I instructed my children to not talk about such things with them.
It’s still kind of funny in one way to me though and that is they are usually very secretive about the god, spiritual babies, wives only receive salvation through the husband, etc. and obviously the son wasn’t taught well enough yet to deceive.
Now as far as the being thankful that I would be a servant to them in their celestial heaven where they make spiritual babies with their wives came when I was blowing up and told them my God would not promise me to be their servant and they snapped I should be thankful that I married his blood relative so I would get blessed with that honor.
There are many things wrong with LDS and it all started with a false prophet. The sad thing to me is I’m not really sure how many even realize it.
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And the false prophet never made it to Utah.
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Since we are telling stories with a religious side;
When my girls were little we lived in NC, on a nice quiet little cul-de-sac with a few interesting neighbors. One family was particularly unique. Anyhow maybe the second time we met them the mom told me that they attended a certain church and invited me for a visit. I had heard about the church from a friend who had been tossed out of there so it immediately raised my curiosity and I politely declined her offer.
The mom and I talked as our girls played in the yards. She asked me what church I attended and I told her St. Cyril and Methodius, she crinkled her nose and asked me if we were Catholic. Yes we are I said. She told me that my daughters would be allowed to play in her home but her daughter would not be allowed in my home because we had idols in it.
Well I bit my tongue as to not tell her we were Byzantine Catholic and only had icons as I figured it was best that her little daughter not be in my home anyhow. But I did tell her that I thought “outdoor” play would be the best thing for them anyhow 🙄 .
She was very odd, the whole family was. They each had one coat in keeping with scripture because anything else was morally wrong. Well almost. They had one jacket in their closet and kept extra coats that people had given them as gifts in the attic so that technically they only had one jacket to wear at a time 🙄
She then started putting tracts in my mailbox about how Catholics were going to hell. One day she said something nebulous, trying to ask about them without admitting that she was putting them there, and, I thanked her for them. She got very flustered and embarrassed and I told her that it was not a problem (I mean did she think I thought the drunks next door were putting them in there?) that I enjoyed pointing about the biblically fallacies in her tracts to my girls.
She was not pleased and went home but never put them in my mailbox again.
Our first Christmas there they put up a plywood manger scene. She told me because it didn’t have “dimensions like a real body, it was not a graven image”.
🙄 Sure my children will enter under your door mantle lady, sure.
I rarely saw her and her daughter rarely played with the neighborhood kids. I felt sorry for all of them.
* Footnote Roman Catholics do not have idols either 😀
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I was raised Southern Baptist. I won’t go into all the negatives about Catholics that I was taught, but I will tell you the word “heathens” was used a lot. LOL
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Back to being raised Catholic in a small town in a church that was half Polish and half French-Canadian…
All we were told about Southern Baptists was that you didn’t like bingo and hell was going to be lined with them. Internecine rivalry, something else we have in common with the Moslems.
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Along with the bingo, we weren’t supposed to dance, drink alcohol, or get divorced. And, I never could figure out where the children were supposed to come from.
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Don’t forget if you weren’t baptized in a SB Church and you want to join their Church then you must me baptized in their Church because another Church couldn’t do it right or something.
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I know, our county is heavily Southern Baptist, and while we have recently created enclaves of sin and degredation where we can buy alvohol the libe against dancing is still being held.
As summer gets here we have to be careful driving over a particular small bridge on our country road as a couple of churches still use the creek under it for full-immersion baptisms. People will parl on the road by the sudes of the bridge and walk down to the site. County obliged them by doing a grading from the road to the stream bed.
Not sure what takes a greater display of faith, full immersion in the stream or in the New Orleans city water the uptown churches use.
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I would think it would take a lot of faith to be willing to be immersed in any open water around New Orleans. 🙄
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Miss Stella, the joke is – why don’t Baptists have sex standing up? People will think they’re dancin’. 😆
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LOL
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That’s it!!! Thanks, Tex. I couldn’t remember it for the life of me.
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No dancing, either.
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The Baptists or the Catholics? You call tbat stuff we did in CYA dancing? “Oh no, Bobby, watch that hand, that’s a venial sin in the making!!!!!”
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Wasn’t there a joke about Baptists believing that dancing is sex standing up? Or something.
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My mother COULDN’T POSSIBLY have made a statement like that. 😯 She said that it “could lead to other things”. She also said that about letting a boy hold my hand when I was 13. She didn’t explain “other things.” That made me VERY curious.
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My husband was raised SB and I’ve attended SB over the years and I can tell ya cards are frowned upon and dancing. We were married in a SB Church and I was told by the pastor that no dancing and no alcohol was allowed.
I didn’t tell on my DH that I met him at a dance and he was drinking alcohol.
Fast forward several years and we had found ourselves regularly attending SB again and the preacher’s wife, a retired school teacher who was a scary woman overheard our kids and some other kids discussing the other kids coming over to play Skip-Bo and UNO. Both sets of us parents got a lecture on the sins of cards. I thought I was going to get slapped with a ruler when I said, “if playing cards is the worst thing my kids ever do then I will think I’ve done a pretty darn good job raising them.”
Like Stella said, Churches are ran by people and there are good and bad in all of them.
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I will say, as far as the rivalry goes, I don’t remember ever being told that Southern Baptists should r&pe the daughters, cut off heads and burn down the churches of Catholics. It was more of a “we will get into Heaven and you won’t, nya, nya, nya” at them.
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Yep, I’ve sat in many different Christian denominations and I’ve heard them all say bad things about other denominations and think they had all the right answers, but none of them ever said we should kill them.
I poke fun at pretty much all Christian denominations but I love them all even with their quirks. All Christians regardless of where they attended Church will all be together one day living in harmony.
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I have a picture of God rolling his eyes and shaking his head while he sighs when he hears these arguments between groups.
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I like to tell them that there isn’t going to be tents with Baptist, Catholic, Methodist, etc. signs on them in Heaven.
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Your oeople even suggested other sects would get to heaven? Ours were far more old country/old school.
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When I told my mom I was becoming Catholic, she said, “Well I guess it is better than Satan worship.” My parents were not keen on me becoming Catholic.
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{snort} Sorry, I couldn’t help it. 😀
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I was raised Catholic and my idol was John Wayne
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I wasn’t raised anything, my parents couldn’t agree with each other, so we got Christian diversity. 🙂
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I wasn’t exactly raised. I was locked in a room or basement with books. I had a lot trouble adjusting to human interaction.
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Ditto here, that’s why I joined the Army – better than EST. 💀
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Navy here, but I was still to stubborn. Needed to ZAP myself several times on the fence.
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My ex-husband said that is why he was such a fine guitar player. Plenty of time to practice during detention.
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You’re an nut. lol
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Oh, a Methodist!
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Is that what Methodists are?
Actually I had an interesting religious childhood, my Dad’s side was Assembly of God/Penecostal, my Mom’s side was Baptist. Since they couldn’t be seen as influencing us in anyway, I assume that was some agreement they came to before they had kids, we were taken to just about every branch of Baptists there were and about every Penecostal like Church there was and everything in between.
I was the youngest, so the last one to experiment on, so I got to choose sooner than the older siblings on my preference. I think they should have waited a little longer because I chose the Church that had lunch after Church every Sunday.
I cannot tell a lie, the food was truly the deciding factor.
My Dad’s choice was never going to make the cut those folks scared me. There was no falling asleep in those Churches unless you brought along earplugs and then you were liable to get suffocated if one of those women fell on you when they were slain in the spirit.
I am so going to have to repent tonight after jabbing all these Churches.
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My mother switched churches over the years. She was a Presbyterian as a child. She dabbled in Pentacostal on the side while she was teaching Sunday School at the United Church of Christ (similar to the Lutherans back in the 1950’s). Then she went back to Presbyterian when I was in high school, and I joined that church. Mom then became a Baptist and stayed one for a long time, but ended up with the Christian and Missionary Alliance Church.
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My mother always remained some type of Baptist.
We’ve been members of different Baptist churches, all who have their own little quirks, but we’ve also called home some non-denomination churches.
Right now we’re in between churches, the little country church down the road we were attending split after their Preacher and his wife’s scandal. I’m at a point in my life where I don’t want to deal with all that drama.
We haven’t felt one we feel comfortable in yet. Some Sundays we just sit home and open our Bibles and preach to each other. lol
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My mother left the Baptists when, as a Sunday School Teacher, they asked her to sign a pledge that she wouldn’t drink, smoke, etc. She didn’t do any of the things they mentioned, but refused to sign on principle.
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When my daughter was about to start HS we looked into a Christian School that was run by Baptists.
We decided against it because we would have to sign a contract that said our child would dress modestly at all times, would not listen to inappropriate music, watch inappropriate television or movies, and would always represent Christians in her daily life. Any violations would be grounds for expulsion and forfeit of tuition.
We were fairly strict with our children and we did control what they listened to and watched and didn’t let our daughter dress like a floozy. However, we didn’t think they had the right to decide what was appropriate or not appropriate outside of school or at least we weren’t going to give them that right by signing their contract.
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My daughter attended Baptist school for pre-school through 7th grade. Fortunately, I never had to sign any pledges. I was fairly strict with my daughter, but was doing some drinking and dancing myself in those days!
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My DH read through it and said he wasn’t signing over his parental rights to anyone. That we would be deciding what was appropriate for our daughter not some board.
Then he asked the same question I had, “what is appropriate?” It wasn’t defined, so if they saw our daughter in the store with a pair of shorts on were they going to expel her? Were they going to bug our house to see what was on television or the radio?
The tuition was outrageous too and everything was an extra cost, books, uniforms, if you played sports then you had to pay another fee plus buy those uniforms, same with band or choir.
A lot of money we were going to have to pay them for them to decide how we should raise our kids.
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We started going to a new Southern Baptist church when I was 10 and we had just moved into town. We were told one of the members had owned a piece of property that he rented to a 7 Eleven, which was a fairly new business back then. They threw him out of the church because the 7 Eleven sold beer.
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My husband still to this day harbors some hard feelings towards the SB Church he grew up in.
His mother was not the nicest lady and that’s being kind. His father was a deacon in the Church. His mother started having an affair with another deacon of the Church who was also married.
His father left his mother and filed for a divorce. The wife of the deacon she was having an affair with left him and filed for a divorce.
The church stayed after service for the congregation to vote on removing his father as a deacon and kicking him out of Church. They never held such a meeting for the deacon involved in the affair or his mother.
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Years ago, I had a friend who was a middle aged widow and had remarried a nice man in her church. After a few years she came back from a business trip to find long blond hairs all in her bed. She found out he had been having an affair with the church secretary, I believe it was. They got a divorce. Everyone turned against my friend and asked HER to leave the church. I have no idea what denomination that was.
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He was around 13 or 14 and he refused to go to Church for a long time.
He was ticked at his mother and his Church family.
I guess he did what kids were not supposed to do back in those days and stood up in Church and called them all hypocrites, spiteful, hateful and was disgusted at all of them. He told them the least they could do their dirty work behind closed doors, not 5 minutes after they all held a worship service. He also told them if they were going to put his dad on trial then he should have been given the opportunity to defend himself and the two responsible for breaking up his family should also be on trial.
His mother punished him for his outburst. Which still gets me hot under the collar and I didn’t even know him then, but my heart aches for the young boy he was.
It did cause a divide in the Church and some of the adults thought what they had done was wrong, especially in front of two teenage boys who had just had their world torn apart.
We lived in the community where he grew up for about a year and even after all those years people would tell me how angry they were, including those who didn’t go to that Church. Some that had a part in it would tell me how much they regretted it.
I can’t believe people were that cruel, especially people professing to be Christians.
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Oh, that is really sad. Boy, when people get things wrong, sometimes they get it really wrong. SMH
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Over the years I’ve had to learn to separate the people from Church.
I’ve witnessed too many Church members do bad things.
The funniest experience I’ve ever had in Church was a Preacher preaching on sin, devil and hell. Folks had been shouting amen and nodding their heads and then he said that the devil works hard in Church, again amen, amen!”
Then he followed up with those pews don’t save you and there are some who warm those pews who will burn in hell.
You could have heard a pin drop, until one little old lady up front said, “Amen Preacher!”
After service people were huddling together discussing what he said. One lady said that he better not speaking about her and he has no right to be judging who will go to hell.
The same little old lady from upfront said, “if you have to wonder if he meant you, you better get down on your knees.”
I spent all afternoon giggling.
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Ran outta reply space, Michelle, but was being a bit sarcy. I remember the priests in catechism sugesting we not stand too close to any Methodists wr knew as they didn’t believe in a truine God or in Christ’s divinity as Catholics do and we may just get sucked into hell bybthe downdrafts they are vacuumed up.
I know a few snake handlers way up in the northern South, we have snakes in common but with me it’s just a hobby.
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Good morning Stella 🙂
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ZAP!
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I have some personal experience with Mormons and IMO it is an intrusive religion. It is very insular and their social circle is almost exclusively Mormons. How many practicing Mormons marry outside of their faith?
Mormon men at a certain age are very strongly encouraged to get married or they are effectively ostracized. The young men must go on a mission or get married with their duty being converting people of other faiths.
Mormon are highly encouraged to tithe 10% if you do not tithe everyone knows and it is not openly talked about but it is held against you. Is their perpetual outreach and proselytizing done to grow the faithful or their coffers?
They conduct “home” visits (called Home Teaching) where brothers or sisters come to see if you or any family members have any problems that the ward (church) can help you with. They expect you to have no secrets from your fellow Mormons. How is the information that is gathered used, well if you believe only altruistically, I have a lovely bridge to sell you.
The wealthy in the ward are considered to be living a righteous life which God is rewarding. It is also a very stoic church were emotions are frowned upon and adherence to “presenting oneself properly” is seen as one of the strongest virtues. Individualism is not a strong point.
All my opinion from personal experience.
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Morning Stella!
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Mornin’ stella! (Smiter of those that ought to be smote) 😎 🍸 (Classic Daiquiri)
(Jack Daniels)
( and Czarina 🙂 🍸 )
(Mortlach)
(Roy Rogers)
(B52)
Mornin’ WeeWeed! (Master Mixologist Extrodinare) 😎 🍸 (Old Fashioned)
Mornin’ Menagerie! 😎
Mornin’ Ad rem! (Queen Felis catus) 🐱 🍸 (Flaming Lamborghini)
Mornin’ Sharon! 😎 🍸 (earthquake)
Mornin’ ytz4mee! 😎 🍸 (cosmopolitan)
Mornin’ partyzantski! 🙂
Mornin’ texan59! 🙂
Mornin’ ZurichMike! 🙂 🌯 (It’s bacon, not a burrito)
Mornin’ Col.(R) Ken! (hand salute) 🙂
Mornin’ czarowniczy! 🙂
Mornin’ letjusticeprevail2014! 🙂
Mornin’ ctdar! 🙂 🍸 (grasshopper)
Mornin’ tessa50! 🙂 🍸 (flaming volcano)
Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! 🙂 🍸 (sidecar)
Mornin’ varsityward! 🙂
Mornin’ MaryfromMarin! 😀
Mornin’ taqiyyologist! 🙂
Mornin’ Howie! 🙂
Mornin’ TwoLaine! 🙂
Mornin’ Sha! 🙂 🍸
Mornin’ BigMamaTEA! 🙂 🍸 (Harvey Wallbanger)
Mornin’ cetera5! (aka Cetera) 🙂
Mornin’ The Tundra PA! 🙂 🍸 (bailey irish cream on the rocks)
Mornin’ lovely! 🙂 🍸 (Tom and Jerry)
Mornin’ michellc! 🙂 🍸 (Lemon Drop)
Mornin’ auscitizenmom! 🙂 🍸 (Kiss on the Lips)
Mornin’ Margaret-Ann! 🙂 🍸 (White Russian)
Mornin’ Auntie Lib! 🙂 🍸
Mornin’ holly100! 🙂 🍸
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Mornin’ Monroe! 🙂
Mornin’ Les! 🙂
Mornin’ TexasRanger! 🙂
Mornin’ Ziiggii! 🙂
Mornin’ oldiadguy! 🙂
Mornin’ smiley! (“stuck in spambucket”) 🙂 🍸 (Spanish coffee)
Mornin’ derk! (“Stellars”) 🙂 🍸 (Mudslide)
Mornin’ Jacqueline Taylor Robson 🙂 🍸 (Shirley Temple)
Mornin’ facebkwallflower! 🙂
Mornin’ Ms. Cindy! (aka “Ms Cynlynn” aka “ms cynlynn”) 🙂 🍸
Mornin’ whiners and complainers! ⭐ 😛 (No drink for you!)
Mornin’ to people posting that I missed. 😳
Mornin’ to all you lurkers! 😕
Also just in case someday; mornin’ to Elvis Chupacabra and F.D.R. in Hell!
Breakfast!
NEW and IMPROVED breakfast with extra bacon for ZurichMike!
Pastries for coffee!
⭐ = Unprintable phallic symbol
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ZM must really suffer on Fridays. I guess he has to have extra bacon all week to get him through.
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Oh, you’re not supposed to have bacon on Fridays during Lent? Ooops . . .
Just kidding.
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Mornin’!
My DH was over my shoulder reading last night and he saw the lemon drop and asked me if you were calling me a sour puss. HHMM I had not thought about that….
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I hadn’t either. Please thank him…..
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I’m going to always think now you see me as a sour puss. lol
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I never had and I do not. It never crossed my mind. Not to cast stones, but your DH was pretty quick with the top of mind awareness……Hmmmmmmm
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That’s cause he has some practice at being a sour puss. lol
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Seriously though it was a joke with our kids. We’d ask them when they turned into sour pusses if they were sucking on a lemon drop again.
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Mornin’ Nyet. 🙂
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I can’t believe ZM hasn’t complained about the piece of tomato and sprig of green on the bacon plate. 😯
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He doesn’t come through every day. It was about a month before he saw the pound of bacon with toast picture.
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Traveling a lot — sometimes can’t be online. Like I am now. 🙂
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Yup. I stuck wordpress on my stupid smartphone so I can read stuff while pretending to work. Like I am now.
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Snort. Giggle.
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Give me time. I usually can’t respond right away because I have gag reflex every time I see a silly garnish ruining the bacon.
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good morning Nyet 🙂
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Mornin’ B!
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Nye thank you for keeping a warm plate, now I have some time too sit, and enjoy some hockey. Bruins and Rangers……. Thank you, Sir thank you…..
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This is positive news:
Kasich, Cruz loyalists list Trump as second choice, narrowing likelihood of stopping Trump
The “Stop Trump” movement could have just hit a major snag: It turns out that for John Kasich and Ted Cruz supporters, Donald Trump is an appealing second choice.
A Quinnipiac University poll released Wednesday shows that almost half of Kasich’s supporters would flock to Trump, not Cruz, if their candidate were to drop out of the race. Likewise, over half of Cruz’s supporters would go to Trump, not Kasich, if Cruz were to suspend his campaign.
http://theweek.com/speedreads/614421/kasich-cruz-loyalists-list-trump-second-choice-narrowing-likelihood-stopping-trump
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Interestingly, RealClearPolitics has stopped posting a number of Quinnipiac polls. Now I know why.
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“gluttonous pervert” LOL!
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DPRK N.S. has replaced Iowahawk.
I didn’t think it was possible to replace Iowahawk.
I thought he’d been made obsolete.
Then comes DPRK News Service to prove me wrong.
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Wooly, are you taqi’s twin? Are you taqi?
My attendance has been spotty the last few days, I might have missed something.
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Oops. Should have read further down the thread…
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I may be part Indian but this Indian Child Welfare Act should have been nullified a long time ago. Tribes, including my own use it not for the better of the children, but to try and claim a child is better off with Indians even if they’re wrong.
They will even fight biological parents who aren’t Indian if the biological Indian parent is out of the picture.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/03/22/part-native-american-girl-taken-from-southern-california-foster-home.html
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That is an awful story. Poor child.
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It’s nuts, if an Indian child is involved the local CPS will turn the case over to the Indian Child Welfare.
I have seen tribes put children in the homes of drunks, druggies, child abusers, you name it just because they’re Indian.
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Yup.
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I saw this on the news and had to turn it off. That poor little girl, shame on those who would do this to an innocent child.
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I’m about what is right and what is fair. Indians weren’t always treated fair, but Indians also have not always treated others fair.
It is time to put the past behind us and all of us stand on our own two feet and one not being above another.
Saying that makes me an enemy of many.
This is one of those instances where they allow a tribe to be above others, going as far as not caring about an innocent child.
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This has nothing to do with whether or not Indians were or were not treated fairly. It has nothing to with whether or not Indians always treated others fairly. This has to do with uprooting a small girl from her family, from her heart and soul, her security, her sense of the world, safety, security and trust, and depositing her with selfish self-centered morons.
DNA, Indian rights be damned. The child should have come first.
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That is not the way they think, they believe it all does boil down to how they were treated and now they deserve special treatment. In their eyes a bad Indian is better for a child with even one drop of Indian versus a good white person.
They are not looking at the little girl, they are looking at “their fight” and her Indian blood.
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Yes I know that they say They are not looking at the little girl, they are looking at “their fight” and her Indian blood. And to some degree I think some of them believe that. I think it is a despicable way to think.
I would also be interested in how hard they would have fought for her if she didn’t come with a $1000.00 a month attached to her.
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Now you see why I knock heads around here.
For a large percentage it’s all about the money and what they can get and get away with.
For others it’s all about protecting the tribe.
Usually, I’m accused of favoring my white blood and denying my Indian blood. Yet those same people will rip a small child who has a drop of Indian blood out of the white home. Sometimes the white home might actually have more Indian blood than the child being ripped away, but they don’t have that CDIB card proving it.
There are a lot of Indians whose ancestors didn’t get put on the roll way back when because they didn’t want to be on reservations. So it makes it very difficult for them now to get a CDIB card.
I know on my husband’s side it took his family years to finally find an ancestor on the rolls.
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These days, you would think that DNA should be the decider. Those who study genealogy know that who you think you descend from you don’t always really descend from. What with adultery, fornication and all, not to mention the coverups.
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I agree with that and I’ve heard that some tribes are considering it, but as far as I know right now all tribes still go by the rolls.
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+100
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This is the outcome of hate America, socialism policy in practice. That Kid could end up under a freeway overpass with winos and they would all still pat themselves on the back for a job well done.
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My nic is SO flippin’ negative. For ten years or more, it’s been taqiyyotomist or taqiyyologist (changed when I found the tree). Never changed it otherwise. Since LGF. Since Gateway Pundit before the big Disqus change.
If you ever see my lighthouse pic, and “Wooly Phlox” is my nic, that’s me.
Purple Wooly Phlox, in fact.
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There we go.
Quit calling me Taqi. Or don’t. Been that guy for nigh on ten years.
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LOL @ Your comment is awaiting moderation.
😀
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You’re “new” to WordPress.
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Yeah, I figured. 🙂
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Who is this masked Woolly Lighthouse??? 😉
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Wooly? Love it!
I have thought about changing my user ID, Lovely was a joke and part of an email I created years ago as a throw away email that I wouldn’t have to check but now I use the email a lot.
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Don’t change your nic, lovely. It fits.
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I read it as Woody Flummox.
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This. Plus a thousand watts for bass.
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You should have a transition period. Have your name as this for about a week;
“The commenter formerly known as taqiyyologist”
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I’ll still answer to variants of Taqiyy.
But, it was time.
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Taqiyya is a bad thing. Why would i want my online identity associated with a bad thing?
Wooly Phlox is a good thing. It’s settled. I spoke about this with my dad a few months ago in Florida. He had a picture that I mailed to my neighbor for taking care of Tripod, of a horse in a field of purple wooly phlox — a picture he took and had printed.
I said, “Dad, if you ever see that as a nic on CTH or Stella’s, that’s me.”
Wooly Phlox. Get used to it.
😀
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http://www.americasfreedomfighters.com/2016/03/22/official-gop-announced-changing-rule-put-end-trumps-campaign/#
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Time passes
and so do we.
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One of the greats of baseball, now he is sitting next too Yogie on the bench, catching up….
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We need to bring back wood sheds because we have a lot of young folks who need to experience real pain.
Counseling for seeing Trump written in chalk. SMH
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3506491/Emory-president-Students-scared-Trump-2016-chalk-signs.html
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I just read that. My God, this country is in really deep trouble. These special little snowflakes do not have a clue what life is really like. I am glad I am retired and will never have to try and work with any of them.
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Hey shilohi, good too see you.
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Thanks Col, good to see you to. I hope Stella doesn’t mind that I joined in. Things are getting a little crazy at the Treehouse.
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We have a nice cozy group right now. Welcome, shiloh!
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Thank you so much.
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(mumbling) – need another box of place cards and plastic sporks ….
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I love plastic forks, no dishes to wash. I’m a light eater.
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Welcome Shiloh, happy to see you 🙂
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Thanks!!!
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Ha! I was just going to post about that. The young generation is as close to being lost as they can be.
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Here’s another fraidy cat.
http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=7405
“I look up from my office computer to see two figures in camo with guns outside my window,” Czerwiec wrote when describing the incident. “My first thought is for my students’ and my safety: I grab my phone, crawl under my desk and call 911. The dispatcher keeps me on the line until someone can see if ROTC is doing maneuvers.”
The dispatcher confirmed with Czerwiec that she had likely just seen a standard training exercise. Rather than responding with relief, however, Czerwiec wrote that she reacted with “fear” and “rage” because the university had the audacity to allow such an outrage to occur.
“I can barely talk—first, with fear, and then with rage when the dispatcher reports back that yes, in fact, I’ve probably just seen ROTC cadets, though they’re going to send an officer to check because no one has cleared it with them. They thank me for reporting it,” she said.
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I can barely talk. too bad she found her voice.
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She probably tweeted it just fine and posted a fear selfie to instagram.
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Your (in)Justice Dep’t. tells House ethics committee to stand down on investigation of Rep. Corinne Brown (the cowboy hat crazy lady) What a deal. 👿 🙄
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/justice-probing-case-tied-to-fla-rep-corrine-brown/ar-BBqQ5Gq?li=BBnb7Kz
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Hey Tex!! Good seeing. I trust all is well with you and the Hill country. Maybe the FBI has a stronger case, until she makes a donation to the Obola retirement fund. Then everything is good to go…..
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This lady is crazier than a junebug, and no doubt as slimy as a snake’s belly.
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Oops. Wrong Florida congresscritter. This be her. But Ms. Brown is still cra-cra. 🙄
http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2010/nov/19/frederica-wilson/congresswoman-elect-wilson-says-hat-ban-started-18/
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Did any of you know that 38 members of Congress accompanied the Obamas to Cuba – and five of them were Republicans?
http://conservativetribune.com/obama-entourage-cuba/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=THENewVoice&utm_campaign=manualpost
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😯 Did they all take separate planes? Nothing was even hinted at in the MSM.
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I HOPE they all went on one plane, but you know the Obamas.
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LOL Yeah, that is why I said that. They may have wanted the plane all to themselves. Remember when Obozo and Mooch went on separate planes. 🙄
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More info:
Obama goes to Cuba — and DC follows
http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/business-a-lobbying/273343-obama-goes-to-cuba-and-dc-follows
All kinds of people – including major league baseball.
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Everybody wants some pie. 🙄
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Wouldn’t it be a thing of beauty to see them all tossed out on their ear.
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Won’t happen if the Castro boys can get some money rollin’ in. 😯
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Heck, I’m surprised there was only 5 of them. I figured more of them would want a free trip.
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Mrs. Nyet! said something about the Russian press earlier today. The US is trying to get Cuba to allow US company ownership or something of land or facilities. However, Russia is trying to quash whatever it is by reopening old Soviet sites and using previous trade agreements with Cuba. Made me think of the North American trade agreement.
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OMG I don’t know whether to laugh or cry. I laughed at first.
“UC Berkeley Students Demand Staff Take Pay Cut to Fund On-Campus Abortions
Because it’s their “right.”
“Because, to the radicals at Berkeley, abortions are “necessary and relevant in student life.” What’s more, according to these spoiled, self-entitled student “senators,” when abortions are not made easy, it violates women’s rights and hinders academic progress. Campus Reform reports:”
http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/uc-berkeley-students-demand-staff-take-pay-cut-fund-campus-abortions
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Alright class, settle down. We can’t dissect frogs anymore because it’s inhumane treatment of animals, but now because the university staff passed the hat around, little Susie in row 4 is fair game.
IF you will all now please put on your gloves and masks. ….. No, no Susie. Not you.
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You.Will.Obey. SEC says ExxonMobil must allow a climate change vote. We ain’t talkin’ about Geaux Tigers or the Crimson Tide either. 👿
http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/exclusive-sec-says-exxon-mobil-must-allow-climate-change-vote/ar-BBqQjD0?li=BBnbfcN
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I didn’t hear this on the news. That son of a mailman came in 4th in a 3-man race last night in AZ. 😆 😆 😆
http://theresurgent.com/john-kasich-came-in-fourth-in-a-three-man-race/
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