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General Discussion, Saturday, January 16, 2016
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Another beautiful picture, stella!
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Along the shore of Lake Superior in northern Minnesota. Very cold!
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Here’s another of that same location (sunrise). Looks almost like a painting rather than a photograph, I think:
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That is really beautiful but it makes me cold just looking at it.
It looks like there should be Celtic music playing.
One of my favorites
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Morning lovely! Hit the volume on the speakers! JohnP may be up and dancing!
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Morning Col. Woo Hoo! Is JohnP posting?
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Haven’t seen anything lately. I was out of town a few days this week.
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Gorgeous photos, Stella. Ice can be amazing.
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Have you ever seen the ice caves on Lake Superior? They are at the Apostle Islands in Wisconsin.
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Never been to Wisconsin. Bet they are gorgeous, especially when the light is right.
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Morning Tundra! Just like home! Enjoyed my time at Ft.Wainwright, summer only!!
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Morning Colonel! That’s a good bit further north than I am. And REALLY cold winters up there…like -50. We rarely get colder than -30 (we’re just pikers) here at 61 degrees north latitude. Summers are nice all over in Alaska, every American should visit at least once in their lives. Alaska is truly one of America’s great treasures.
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Yes agree, and drop that pan in the river just one time!
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Morning Stella, great pictures!
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Hi there! Stay warm, Colonel!
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Have the wood stove loaded, rain last night melted some of the ice. Winds have picked up, and light snow 1″-3″ tonight thru Sunday.
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Morning Mary!
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Afternoon, Col ! And a blessed day to everyone.
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Long time coming….
Episcopal Church Suspended from Anglican Communion over Same-Sex Marriage
http://www.christianitytoday.com/gleanings/2016/january/episcopal-church-suspended-anglican-communion-gay-marriage.html
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I’ve been reading about it for two days. Is this a gesture from the Anglican leadership to satisfy African bishops or is it a genuine step? Will it lead the church to a productive outcome, do you think?
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Morning Menagerie, can’t answer your question.
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It is Scriptural (Matthew 18:15-17). First, speak privately to the sinner( vss. 15, 16; that’s been happening for [too many, IMO] years), then if that doesn’t work, do something in front of the church (vs. 17a; that’s this current step above ^^^). If there is no change, then expulsion and re-evangelization (vs. 17b). As I do not believe TEC can voluntarily change–too much rot and entrenched sin, although God CAN do anything–I fervently trust and pray that the final step will take place as stated. If it doesn’t, the Anglican Communion as understood will cease to exist.
Most of the Anglican leadership IS the African bishops, and the rest of the leaders in the Global South. Anglicanism is shrinking in the Global North, for reasons such as the one at issue here. Recent Archbishops of Canterbury have been worse than useless about this. We left TEC years ago for this reason, and many others.
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Very important information; not enough people know this:
If You Don’t Know Abrogation You Don’t Know Sharia
https://www.understandingthethreat.com/if-you-dont-know-abrogation-you-dont-know-sharia/
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Very good article, MfM, thanks for the link.
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Good read. It’s very differ from the RCIA class I am attending as sponsor to a young lady who thinks she wants to convert to Catholicism. The Church, the priests, the instructors, and I myself are all trying so hard to educate her and her class as much as possible so that their choice will be an informed and conscious one.
Even though I converted, I had not ever given a lot of thought to what a difficult task it is to educate one enough to make a wise choice. I commandeered a priest for a year and had one on one instruction, something that is mostly impossible nowadays.
If my faith had to be disclosed in stages, after the door was closed and locked, I like to think it would make me question my beliefs and check their validity.
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Morning Menagerie. I’ve been enrolled in RCIA since early fall. Enjoying the class, but wish it were deeper, more rigorous. Four of us are catecumens, the other 3 never ask questions or speak up at all (and then there’s me…). Our priest and deacon lean pretty liberal and ascribe to the don’t-make-’em-uncomfortable philosophy. Priest never wears a collar, we don’t say the confetitor (sp?) at Mass, veiling is discouraged. The class is pablum when I want meat and potatoes. Fortunately I have a great sponsor, a very bright and learned woman. She does far more to educate me than the class, the priest, or the deacon, and I so appreciate it. I hope your sponsee does your efforts as well.
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Tundra, as always it’s a two sided coin. The parish I belong to leans extremely traditional in liturgy and practices. The RCIA class has attracted some converts who were very devout Evangelicals and they are very knowledgeable in theology. They consistently teach over everyone’s head. I’ve been Catholic for almost forty years, and I am on their level most of the time, but every once in awhile I have to google their words. Few catechumens speak up. I have privately talked to the lady in charge of the program, asking her to rein them in. I even considered trying another program at another parish, but we are the most traditional in the area, and I am not taking her to a parish where she may not get as complete and accurate teachings of our beliefs.
Our priests almost always wear cassocks everywhere, but especially at parish functions. I have one very important thing I’ll say about the don’t make them uncomfortable philosophy. If your religion doesn’t make you uncomfortable, you either haven’t found the right one, or you aren’t practicing it right. Aside from that, Catholicism does offer parishes with one mass celebrated in various liturgical manners. I would imagine that you might have less of a choice in parishes than I do though.
The Catholic blogosphere is rich with opportunities to learn the faith. And if you haven’t yet watched Catholicism by Father Robert Barron (now Bishop) try to find it at a library or see if your parish has a copy they loan out. Right now his book of the same name is 1.99 on Amazon, but you need to see the videos. The seventh part walks you through the mass, explaining everything, and it is breathtaking. The way he ties everything together not only gives you an understanding of the mass, but oh, to see the great unfolding of God’s timeless plan is…well I had to stop and admit I just don’t have the words. See it if you can. As a bonus, you will get to see some of the most beautiful churches and art work in the world.
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Thanks so much for your thoughtful reply, Menagerie. You are correct that I don’t have many options for parish choice. The church we attend is 14 miles away, the next closest is 25 miles and third is 60 miles. My sponsor tells me that our church used to be much more liberal than it is now, so I guess that’s something.
At RCIA this week we watched a short 12 minute video by Bishop Barron, which I much enjoyed. I will find the longer one you refer to. Thanks for the recommendation.
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Porter was one vote away from an acquittal.
Jury in Officer Porter trial was one vote from acquittal on most serious charge
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/freddie-gray/bs-md-ci-porter-jury-split-20160115-story.html
The case built on quicksand.
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Knew the state didn’t have a Law case, just a political case. This is good news for the other officers. Maybe this is why the judge declared a mistrial.
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Remind me, stella–when will the Caturday thread appear? I have some cartoons picked out…
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meow….purrrrrrrrrr
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This week I set it for 4:00 am. Let me know if you want me to make it earlier.
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4:00 AM ??? Whose time zone???
No matter how late I stay up or how early I have to get up, I ain’t NEVER voluntarily awake at 4 am.
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EST, Mary, or 1:00 AM PST.
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Wellllll…1 am? Sometimes I’m still awake at 1 am. Shouldn’t be, though.
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I can change the time to earlier; that’s why I asked.
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When women cannot go anywhere without being fearful of every male person around them, old or young, then freedom is dead.
The New Terror Threat: Organized Rape
http://counterjihadreport.com/2016/01/15/the-new-terror-threat-organized-rape/
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Mornin’ MaryfromMarin! It’s the exact opposite in my house. I can’t even look at the person speaking without getting, “VAT! Vat are you looking at?!? Stop staring at me!”
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Morning Nye! Are you sure, “she is not Putian’s first cousin”?
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Mornin’ sir! I’m fairly sure….. that I’ll never know if she’s a spy or not.
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Again I say, why isn’t the bare breasted feminist militia leading the takedown of these cretins? What actual good is feminism if it only picks on old bishops and little boys? Are they avoiding the real fight, or are they just a bunch of mad psycho women looking for an anthill to kick over?
Sorry for the repetitive comment, but sarcasm aside, I really am angry and baffled that all women, young, old, feminists, stay at homes, professionals, why are they not demanding the full and aggressive protection of the law they pay for with their tax money? The men in my family, and many of my acquaintance, would literally go down fighting rather than see any woman hurt. I fear when the fight gets to my neck of the woods too much of the world will have been lost to placating spineless “leaders” who do nothing but retreat.
A society that does not protect and support its women and girls will not thrive, will not produce the strength and character that knots the world together, and it won’t deserve to.
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Where are our “Molly Pitchers” of today?
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It’s so funny that all this feminists movement was explained in detail in a book from 1798. Up to that point, women were responsible for children’s education and teaching morals. To destroy Christianity and authority they started attacking the role of women. What we have today is the result of over 200 years of effort.
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Agree Nye, by attacking women, the family unit, will slowly disintegrate.
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The bare-breasted feminist militia is currently planning how to most effectively expose their genitaila in front of a bunch of children at the next Folsom Street Fair. Their planning doesn’t go much further than that.
They never gave a half a crap about women. That was always and ever just an act in their sick, baudy play. All they are is sick, demented theater.
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“A society that does not protect and support its women and girls will not thrive…”
A society that does not protect and support its women and girls will rapidly go extinct.
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Morning, all. Been up since 4. Ugh! May have to take a little nap this afternoon.
We’re at freezing now and it looks like that’s where we’ll be hanging out all day today. We’ll see if I make my goal and have all my see orders placed by Sunday evening. I made my list, now comes the hard part, reducing it down to what I can actually plant. Too many seeds, too little time. 😉
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I just noticed that the electric company took down a big nasty tree in my back neighbor’s yard. This is good news, as I will once again be able to plant in the bed at the back of my yard!
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Mornin’ stella!
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Mornin’ nyet!
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Mornin’ hoosiergranny!
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Morning Granny, I could lend you an acre?
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Thanks for the offer, Col. We have the space. But the property had been badly neglected when we bought it several years ago, A lot of our time & money has been spent trying to get things back in shape. So there’s just not the time to add more to the garden at this point. In fact my next project is to get in a tree/berry order to start a small orchard this spring.
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I’m not so sure this is very far off………. Mornin’ kids!
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Mornin’ WeeWeed! Any idea if Mr. ‘I-have-a-job-and-can’t-be-bothered-with-you-little-people’ going to show up today and tell us he’s beating the stupid out of college students?
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Mornin’ B!! 😀
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Wait ! What? You can get paid to do that? Sign me up.
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I’m in!
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Good mooring Miss WeeWeed and all 🙂
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Mornin’ Lovely!
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Good morning!
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Mornininininmnn’ Menagerie!
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Mornin’ lovely!
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Mornin’ Wee!
We had in-laws last evening. I guess I’m not the only crazy these days, about time others caught up. We were told when it all goes to the crapper, the government would force us to give them our livestock and fruit and vegetables we grow to the government. I’ve only been saying something similar for years.
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Mornin’ Michelle!
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Mornin’ michellc!
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Mornin’.
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Morning Ms.WeeWeed! What is Nye talking about? Count me in, anything to help the cause. I could teach a class on water boarding, toe tickling, or just sit there target shooting my Colt at the smokes between their lips!
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Mornin’ Colonel!
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LOL! I was asking if WeeWeed knew if texan59 was going to serve coffee today in a way that I hoped would make him laugh if he read it.
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I didn’t get it either. Need more coffee.
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I only comprehend about half of the nyetwee language myself.
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We’re psycho, ya know… mind readin’ ‘n stuff.
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Nye I just spit my coffee out!
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LOL!
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😯
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Breakfast!
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Nye!!! This Hits the Spot!!! Early lunch! Thank you Sir, thank you!
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Good morning everybody! Did I ever tell you that I hate winter?
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No. No, I don’t think you have. Have I mentioned it yet, today?? 😉 Mornin’ Stella.
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Good morning Stella 🙂
Thoughts of Spring.
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Me too! With a little luck by this time next month I’ll be seeing jonquils push their pretty heads up.
Good morning everyone.
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Good morning Stella.
I’m with ya, I’d be perfectly fine with 3 seasons. It’s in the 30’s here this morning but with a north wind that cuts right through you. After a few days of 50 degree weather it felt like 30 below to me this morning.
Some day I’m going to teach animals to get their own feed, hay and water and lay their own straw down.
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Morning michellc!! Please let me know when have that technique down!!
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Good morning. I’ve been working on it most of my life, so I’m sure I’m close. 🙂
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I lied. I didn’t look at the thermometer this morning, just went by what the forecast said it was going to be. Hubby just told me he did look and it was 26* this morning.
I’m glad water duty was his this morning. lol
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Just because we’re all entirely too stupid to understand the point of his “article” about one of his heros.
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As you said Ms.WeeWeed; his a$$ isn’t worth a plug nickel!!
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Good idea for grandmas with little guys:
https://scontent.fdtw1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/12522969_330020110454970_8682024652125979436_n.jpg?oh=8a939cd3502c9f4514553d830477fb7c&oe=573AF425
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I remember having a refrigerator box….
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My sister made one of these for my daughter when she was about 2. She covered it with contact paper and made it look really cute.
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Here’s a photo (I don’t like the colors, but the idea is good).
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We buy hog feed by the ton that comes in a huge cardboard box. My DH cut out doors and windows on one and my grandson has been having a ball playing in it.
When my kids were young I used old sheets like that on the table and they made forts out of the chairs and sheets. The table they called their bunker.
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I’ve seen those. I can’t sew, but I might try that glue tape stuff. My grandkiddies would love that!
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My kids used blankets and diaper pins to close the ends. They didn’t like sheets because sound traveled to well and would occasionally get them in trouble.
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It is being reported that Iran has released the 4 hostages.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/266142-captive-us-reporter-freed-by-iran-report
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Apparently we are giving Iran 7 prisoners and removing 40 Iranians from the bad boy list 😐
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That’s good news, but I wonder about the six Iranian prisoners that we are releasing ….
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I suspect they are not good guys and it will come back to haunt us.
I wonder if Trump in saying that the hostages would be released before he took office I guarantee it. 100%” put pressure on Obama to get them out on his watch so that Trump would get no credit for the release. I find it very odd that suddenly the hostages who Kerry didn’t want to ruffle Iran’s feathers over are suddenly being freed.
No doubt Obama will ignore the “swap” part and say something like it was part of the plan all along and certain people shouldn’t run their mouths about stuff they know nothing about.
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Another report, confirming the release of four Americans of Iranian background. American prisoner Robert Levinson, held for more than eight years, not included in the release:
http://www.persecution.org/2016/01/16/pastor-saeed-abedini-freed-from-prison-in-iran-along-with-three-other-americans/
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I always knew they was treepers.
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Michael Moore is speaking in Flint today, about the water crisis there. He is calling for the arrest of Governor Snyder. From what I see, many of the people in Flint aren’t interested in him. As one guy said, “He didn’t even bring water.” and went on to say that all Moore wants is to make money from the situation, probably will do a documentary and rake in the cash, but will he help?
News reports always say Moore was born in Flint. The truth is that he was born in a hospital in Flint, but never lived there. He was brought up in a small town called Davison.
http://www.wxyz.com/news/michael-moore-holding-press-conference-at-flint-city-hall-on-saturday
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View at Medium.com
Via AoSHQ.
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IMPORTANT!! Read NOW and take screen shots (I don’t know how to do that) as Wiki is thinking of deleting this!!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taharrush_gamea
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Done. I got five “snips” images (.png files)
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Thank you, stella. I still have a lot to learn…unfortunately, I learn best with someone standing right next to me, pounding the info into my head.
It took me almost forever to learn how to post images, using long-distance instruction. Good thing FDR didn’t give up on me (and someone else helped, too).
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This is what I used.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/use-snipping-tool-capture-screen-shots#1TC=windows-7
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You can also use the PrtScr key, then paste the results into a document (Word or a graphic program, like Paint) by opening the program, and then pressing the “Ctrl” and the “V” keys.
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Did the references come out okay? I copied and pasted (I DO know how to do THAT) but they came out squirrelly. I do not have the time to rewrite all 28 references…
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Yes. Instead of copying and pasting, use the PrtScr key to copy what you see on the screen, then paste the image into either Word or Paint (or similar programs).
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The links are lost, though.
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I copied the links at the bottom of the page I can post them here if you want me to.
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I have a screen shot of the references. The problem is with the hot links, where the URL doesn’t appear. Did you go to each link, and copy the URL? If we want to preserve those, that is what will be required.
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I didn’t go to them but they are still working for me I can post them if you want me too.
Here are three. If I go and open them that should preserve the link, yes?
Sexual Violence in Egypt: Myths and Realities
http://www.jadaliyya.com/pages/index/13007/sexual-violence-in-egypt_myths-and-realities-
This one needs translating
http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article150813517/Das-Phaenomen-taharrush-gamea-ist-in-Deutschland-angekommen.html
Why we need to worry about ‘Taharrush gamea’ – the Arabic gang-rape game
http://www.indiatvnews.com/buzz/life/taharrush-gamea-arabic-gang-rape-tradition-europe-270.html
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I’ve got a post with working links in the bin Ms. Stella
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Here are a few more links, I’ll get the rest up tonight or tomorrow
Reconceptualizing Sexual Harrasment in Egypt: A Longitudinal Assessment of el-Taharrush el Ginsy in Arabic Online Forums and Anti-Sexual Harassment Activism
Click to access Reconceptualizing-Sexual-Harassment-in-Egypt.pdf
The Sexual Attacks on Women in Europe Reflect a Misogynistic Mind-Set That Must Be Dismantled
http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2016/01/14/pulling-in-the-welcome-mat-as-fear-of-attacks-rise/the-sexual-attacks-on-women-in-europe-reflect-a-misogynistic-mind-set-that-must-be-dismantled
Sexual Harassment : from Verbal Harassment to Rape
Click to access 6eeeb05a-3040-42d2-9e1c-2bd2e1ac8cac.pdf
Women’s Rights Movements during Political Transitions: Activism against Public Sexual Violence in Egypt
http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid=9547138
Testimony from a Survival of Gang Rape on Tahrir Square Vicinity
http://nazra.org/en/2013/01/testimony-survival-gang-rape-tahrir-square-vicinity
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Good idea. Wiki absolutely WILL delete this.
Wiki has been fully converged by SJWs.
All badthink and wrongthink will be deleted.
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I think the FBI was following me today 😀
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The Furry Barkers of Investigation?
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Yes! That’s it. They were so cute and well behaved. Just happily sitting together in the passenger seat. We got stopped by a train so I could take a picture.
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This recording was played on the first episode of the new season on Downton Abbey (from 1925):
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