General Discussion, Sunday, April 14, 2019

Urban community gardens are becoming very popular. Detroit, with all of its now empty space, is a great place for that. According to Keep Growing Detroit, there are 1,400 urban gardens and farms located in Detroit. Through those operations, urban gardeners have the opportunity to sell fruits and vegetables they grow at local market outlets. KGD has one of the largest farms in the city, but the smaller ones are just as down to earth.

More churches are planting gardens. They aren’t all the same. Some are tended by church members in an organized way, and the produce is used for a food pantry, or harvested and available for church members to take home. Some churches have regularly scheduled church dinners, and use the produce for those. Some are community gardens, and plots are available for everyone in the community, not just church member. An example is this one:

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123 Responses to General Discussion, Sunday, April 14, 2019

  1. Lucille says:

    A Blessed Palm Sunday to you…

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  2. Lucille says:


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    https://www.luxurypools.com/landscape-hardscape/how-to-fix-drainage-problems-in-your-yard/

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  3. WeeWeed says:

    Mornin’ y’all!

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  4. hocuspocus13 says:

    There is nothing like a fresh picked tomato 🍅🍅🍅

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  5. auscitizenmom says:

    Mornin’ everyone. It is great to know that there are gardens like that in Detroit. People need to be connected to the Earth.

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    • Morning auscitizenmom!

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    • lovely says:

      Good morning Aus 🙂 !

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    • JTR says:

      When I lived in England, I found out about “allotments”. During the wars, the people divided up any spare land and planted on it. Some people still have the same allotment as their Great Grand Dad. They just hand them down. The rent goes to the council and it’s very cheap. Like maybe 5 pounds per year. Allotment folk are very proud of their veggies and flowers, and every town has a flower and vegie fair every year!

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      • auscitizenmom says:

        Cool. 🙂

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      • stella says:

        I’ve seen that too. It’s a really good idea! England really needed that during the war, since before the war they had been importing 60% of their food. During the war they couldn’t do that, mainly because of the blockades, although they did get some food from the USA, so gardens were absolutely essential. Many people also raised chickens, rabbits, and sometimes pigs.

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      • Menagerie says:

        That sounds like such fun, and what a thing to pass on to your kids to teach them gardening and being a part of community. I wish we had that here.

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  6. lovely says:

    10 beautiful things.

    1) Early Spring flowers. (Mom’s garden)

    2) Representative Dan Crenshaw recognizes and is actively pushing the new momentum of our day.

    Hey, remember that era in human history when we defended individual freedom and free markets, and let you keep more of your money, and kept government out of your way?

    That time is now. America is booming.

    We don’t need socialism.__Rep. Dan Crenshaw

    3) Wikileaks has confirmed the safety of Julian Assange’s cat. Assange asked his attorneys to take his cat in October of 2018 in anticipation of his own removal from the embassy and the cat is currently in the care of those connected to Assange. Hmmm… if he didn’t properly care for the cat why would he have taken such a thoughtful preemptive action?

    If what we are being told isn’t consistent with actions we can safely presume to be true, what does that say about what we are being told?

    4) Before The Storm – Jack Savoretti

    5) President Trump and his genius plan to get the Liberal Elites to reject illegal immigrants.

    “Just out: The USA has the absolute legal right to have apprehended illegal immigrants transferred to Sanctuary Cities. We hereby demand that they be taken care of at the highest level, especially by the State of California, which is well known or its poor management & high taxes!”___President Trump

    Pro tip to the liberal twerps, whatever weapon you bring to a fight, President Trump will bring something more lethal.

    6) Ilhan Omar is complaining about tweets but I don’t know why that is. Its just some people saying something. __Jack Posobiec

    MAGA minds continue our devastating counter punch.

    7) The promise of Palm Sunday.

    8) Poetry

    I have the man’s-heart in me, and ’tis noble
    To be alive, to think, to feel, to have
    My part in all the precious come-and-go
    Of all things here. My very blood’s a-tune
    With the sweet air; my brain is musical;
    And every appetite, a healthy maw,
    Is satisfied, not cloyed. It is so fair
    A world, so good to be alive. O Time!
    To dance unto the piping of desire,
    To feast each fancy with material fare,
    And then to heaven as in a wink, and be
    Immortal in the paradise of power!

    __Robert Crawford

    9) That maniac Hillary Clinton thinks she is living in the Game of Thrones saga and we can assume that she likens herself to a heroic figure in the game.

    I still think this dame is going to have a mental health breakdown.

    10) The limitless joy and hope of childhood.

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  7. Menagerie says:

    Good morning all. A good reflection here as we celebrate the beginning of Holy Week this Palm Sunday. This is one of the best articles I’ve read in years.

    http://blog.adw.org/2019/04/seven-deadly-sins-sloth/

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  8. nyetneetot says:

    Mornin’ stella! (Smiter of those that ought to be smote) 😎 🍸 (Long Island Iced Tea)
    Mornin’ WeeWeed! (Master Mixologist Extrodinare) 😎 🍸 (Old Fashioned)
    Mornin’ Menagerie! 😎 |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| (Jack Daniels – Single Barrel)
    Mornin’ Ad rem! (Queen Felis catus) 🐱 🍸 (Flaming Lamborghini)
    Mornin’ Sharon! 😎 🍸 🍸 (earthquake)
    Mornin’ ytz4mee! 😎 🍸 (cosmopolitan)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! 🙂 🍸 (white wine and perrier)
    Mornin’ partyzantski! 🙂 |_| (Tom Collins)
    Mornin’ texan59! 🙂 |_| (Black & Tan)
    Mornin’ ZurichMike! 🙂 🍸 (fuzzy navel)
    Mornin’ Col.(R) Ken! (hand salute) 🙂 |_| (Boilermaker)
    Mornin’ czarina33! (aka czarina) 🙂 🍸 (Lynchburg Lemonade)
    Mornin’ czarowniczy! 🙂 |_| (Wild Turkey Rare Breed)
    Mornin’ letjusticeprevail2014! 🙂 |_| (Irish Car Bomb)
    Mornin’ Patriot1783-ctdar! (aka “ctdar”) 🙂 🍸 (grasshopper)
    Mornin’ tessa50! 🙂 🍸 (flaming volcano)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! 🙂 🍸 (sidecar)
    Mornin’ varsityward! 🙂 |_| (Godfather)
    Mornin’ MaryfromMarin! 😀 |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| (Mortlach)
    Mornin’ Wooly Covfefe! (aka “Wooly Phlox” aka “taqiyyologist”) 🙂 |_| (Roy Rogers)
    Mornin’ Howie! (aka “doodahdaze”) 🙂 |_| (Classic Daiquiri)
    Mornin’ TwoLaine! 🙂 |_| (Gin & Tonic)
    Mornin’ Sha! 🙂 🍸 (Lemon Drop)
    Mornin’ BigMamaTEA! 🙂 🍸 (Harvey Wallbanger)
    Mornin’ cetera5! (aka “Cetera”) 🙂 |_| (Blackberry wine)
    Mornin’ The Tundra PA! 🙂 🍸 (Gentleman Jack Whiskey Sling)
    Mornin’ lovely! 🙂 |_| (Backdraft)
    Mornin’ michellc! 🙂 🍸 (Salty dog)
    Mornin’ auscitizenmom! 🙂 🍸 (Kiss on the Lips)
    Mornin’ Margaret-Ann! 🙂 🍸 (White Russian)
    Mornin’ Auntie Lib! 🙂 🍸 (Tom and Jerry)
    Mornin’ holly100! 🙂 🍸 (Jack & Coke)
    Mornin’ Pam! 🙂 (Not even water)
    Mornin’ Ms.Tee! 🙂 🍸 (Mojito)
    Mornin’ koolkosherkitchen! 🙂 🍸 🍸 (Cuba Libre)
    Mornin’ ImpeachEmAll 🙂 |_| (Flaming Dr. Pepper)
    Mornin’ Monroe! 🙂 |_| (Stinger)
    Mornin’ Les! 🙂 |_| (Rusty Nail)
    Mornin’ shiloh1973! 🙂 |_| (Jack Daniels)
    Mornin’ TexasRanger! 🙂 |_| (Whiskey Smash)
    Mornin’ Ziiggii! 🙂 |_| (B52)
    Mornin’ oldiadguy! 🙂 |_| (Rum & Coke)
    Mornin’ smiley! (“stuck in spambucket”) 🙂 🍸 (Spanish coffee)
    Mornin’ derk! (“Stellars”) 🙂 🍸 (Kamikaze)
    Mornin’ Jacqueline Taylor Robson 🙂 🍸 (Shirley Temple)
    Mornin’ facebkwallflower! 🙂 |_| (Night Train Express)
    Mornin’ Ms. Cindy! (aka “Ms Cynlynn” aka “ms cynlynn”) 🙂 🍸 (1970 ducru beaucaillou)
    Mornin’ sandandsea2015! 🙂 🍸 (1961 Château Montrose)
    Mornin’ amwick! 🙂 🍸 (Blue motorcycle)
    Mornin’ hocuspocus13! 🙂 🍸 (1970 Chateau Latour)
    Mornin’ Sloth1963! 🙂 🍸 (1971 Moulin Touchais)
    Mornin’ MTeresa! (Ex-lurker) 🙂 |_| (Albanian Raki Moskat)
    Mornin’ rheavolans! (aka “Rhea Salacia Volans”) 🙂 |_| (Hot Buttered Rum)
    Mornin’ joshua! 🙂 |_| (Mudslide)
    Mornin’ John Denney! 🙂 |_| (RumChata)
    Mornin’ litenmaus! 🙂 |_| (Stolichnaya elit, no ice)
    Mornin’ kinthenorthwest! 🙂 🍸 (A Lonely Island Lost in the Middle of a Foggy Sea)
    Mornin’ TwoLaine! 🙂 |_| (Smoking Bishop)
    Mornin’ patternpuzzler! 🙂 🍸 (Old Lady)
    Mornin’ Senatssekretär FREISTAAT DANZIG! 🙂 |_| (Red Russian)
    Mornin’ G-d&Country! 🙂 🍸 (Blind Russian)
    Mornin’ Gary! 🙂 |_| (Yuengling)
    Mornin’ valeriecurren! 🙂 🍸 (Flaming Sambuca)
    Mornin’ Lucille! 🙂 🍸 (Peach Schnapps)
    Mornin’ Lburg! 🙂 🍸 (Lburg lemonade)
    Mornin’ davidhuntpe! 🙂 |_| (Baileys Irish Cream on the rocks)
    Mornin’ skipper1961! 🙂 |_| (Brompton’s Cocktail – No cherry, no umbrella, no plastic monkey)
    Mornin’ mightyconservative! 🙂 |_| (Benjamin Franklin’s clarified milk punch)
    Mornin’ NC Nana! 🙂 🍸 (Beautiful)
    Mornin’ bjosz! 🙂 |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| (Some of Menagerie’s Jack Daniels – Shhhhhh)
    Mornin’ whiners and complainers! 😛 (No drink for you!)
    Mornin’ to people posting that I missed. 😳
    Mornin’ to all you lurkers! 😕

    Also just in case someday; mornin’ to Elvis Chupacabra, F.D.R. in Hell and sundance! :mrgreen:

    Breakfast!

    NEW and IMPROVED breakfast with extra bacon for ZurichMike!

    Doughnuts for coffee!

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  9. czarowniczy says:

    To me it’s so strange, so Harlan Ellisonish, to have garden plots in the ruins of once vibrant cities that manufactured products sold ’round the world. Cities that once manufactured things you could hold in your hand are now growing fruits and vegetables on vacant factory stores and parking lots. I keep waiting for newspapers to report that the Morlocks are coming out of the urban sewers and abandoned subways to eat the Eloi.

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    • joshua says:

      Eloi waiting for the siren to direct them

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    • stella says:

      Most of the available land in Detroit is where old homes were torn down – whole neighborhoods! Factories still exist in Detroit (believe it or not). Chrysler and GM have plants in the city. Ford has mostly stayed in Dearborn and parts west of the city. Of course there’s the old Packard plant, which has become an internet sensation.

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      • czarowniczy says:

        Y’all still have cars, plants that made steel and electronics got hit hard. The docks in NOLA and the businesses (like our steel plant on the river) got nailed solid. NOLA used to have the longest contiguous docks in the world but few are still functioning, a lot of dock space has been turned in to tourist venues and a lot of the remaining is deteriorating.
        There are a few community gardens here but they’re mostly for fun as the local poverty-line diet is largely fast food and dialysis oriented.

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    • stella says:

      By the way, the gardens are a big improvement over the weedy lots covered with garbage, old tires etc. Or the abandoned houses, inhabited by junkies.

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      • czarowniczy says:

        No doubt but from what I’m seeing in my admittedly small slice of life they’re more of a ‘yuppie’ dalliance than a major dietary change. As we found out in the 60s/70s trying to get folks traditionally immersed in unhealthy diets to change to something considered healthier is hard.

        We had (may still have) a farmer’s market in NOLA where farmers from outlying areas brought in produce. There is also an open air market on the Westbank side of the city’s outskirts where local fisherpersons have long sold their shrimp, fish, oysters, crab, etc.

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    • Lucille says:

      Speaking of Harlan Ellison, did you ever read the article he wrote about the dinner he had with L. Ron Hubbard in which L. Ron said he could start a religion and people would flock to it? Ellison laughed at the cynical thought and Hubbard swore he could do it…that it was a cinch.

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      • czarowniczy says:

        Yeah, heard about that. I’m bettin’ that he wished he’d have had the financial success as a ‘fiction’ writer the L. Ron did.

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  10. stella says:

    Experimented with making Ricotta cheese at home. Since I’m lactose intolerant, and most lactose free milk is also ultra pasteurized (bad for cheese making), I used Fairlife whole milk, which is ultra filtered. It is also higher in protein, which is good for cheese. The company is owned by Coca Cola, btw.

    Anyway, the cheese worked out fine, and is quite tasty. I didn’t use rennet, but unfiltered apple cider vinegar, to form the curd. Cook milk to 175 degrees, drizzle in the vinegar until it curdles, let stand for 10 minutes or so, then drain through cheesecloth for another 10 minutes or so, put in a container and add salt to taste. You could also add herbs or even a bit of cream to change the texture.

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  11. Lucille says:

    Interesting observations and subsequent theory…

    The Great Pyramid of Egypt: A Mesopotamian Agricultural Machine
    Ancient Architects YouTube Channel
    Published on Oct 26, 2017

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  12. Lucille says:

    Trump’s Rebel Alliance Attacks the Left’s Death Star
    By Clarice Feldman – April 14, 2019

    As in one of those old-time movies like Mr. Smith Goes to Washington or a sci-fi film like Star Wars, where the good guys finally go on the offensive and beat the evildoers, this week the President and the rebel alliance cracked through the Democrat’s Death Star of lies , deceit, and unpunished illegalities.

    https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/04/trumps_rebel_alliance_attacks_the_lefts_death_star.html

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  13. Lucille says:

    Wow, this just makes me happy…

    Al Hirt – “I Can’t Get Started”

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  14. auscitizenmom says:

    lilbirdee12’s prayer:

    Our Heavenly Father, Your children come to you tonight to ask for healing and peace throughout our country so that we may return to being One Nation Under God. Guide us to be leaders in Your Kingdom, spreading Your Love and Salvation to all. Forgive us our sins and deliver us from evil.

    Lord, we ask for a blanket of protection over all our troops and law enforcement who serve to defend and protect us. Bless our representatives with the strength and wisdom they need to achieve the path You have chosen for us.

    Please place Your Guardian Angels of Protection around Donald Trump and Mike Pence and their families as they seek to lead America back to You.

    Grant us patience, Lord, as the evil ones try to anger us and cause us to fall.
    Spread blessings over Israel and Netanyahu.

    We humbly ask that You please comfort those who are grieving and in pain.
    Thank you Father, for Your Love and the gift of Life.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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  15. auscitizenmom says:

    A prayer for Justice Kavanaugh and Col. Flynn:

    Prayer to St. Michael

    St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle;
    be our defense against the wickedness and snares of the devil.
    May God rebuke him, we humbly pray;
    and do you, O prince of the heavenly host,
    by the power of God,
    thrust into hell Satan and the other evil spirits
    who prowl about the world for the ruin of souls.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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  16. auscitizenmom says:

    Can someone here post the prayers starting Tues. night? I may be able to get on the Internet at times, but I can’t count on it. I am going to visit my son and his family until the next Wed.

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  17. lilbirdee12’s prayer:

    Our Heavenly Father, Your children come to you tonight to ask for healing and peace throughout our country so that we may return to being One Nation Under God. Guide us to be leaders in Your Kingdom, spreading Your Love and Salvation to all. Forgive us our sins and deliver us from evil.

    Lord, we ask for a blanket of protection over all our troops and law enforcement who serve to defend and protect us. Bless our representatives with the strength and wisdom they need to achieve the path You have chosen for us.

    Please place Your Guardian Angels of Protection around Donald Trump and Mike Pence and their families as they seek to lead America back to You.

    Grant us patience, Lord, as the evil ones try to anger us and cause us to fall.
    Spread blessings over Israel and Netanyahu.

    We humbly ask that You please comfort those who are grieving and in pain.
    Thank you Father, for Your Love and the gift of Life.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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  18. A prayer for Justice Kavanaugh and Col. Flynn:

    Prayer to St. Michael

    St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle;
    be our defense against the wickedness and snares of the devil.
    May God rebuke him, we humbly pray;
    and do you, O prince of the heavenly host,
    by the power of God,
    thrust into hell Satan and the other evil spirits
    who prowl about the world for the ruin of souls.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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