General Discussion, Wednesday, July 4, 2018

Posted on July 4, 2018 by Stella

An MH-65 “Dolphin” helicopter flies with the U.S. Coast Guard barque Eagle in the Atlantic Ocean on Thursday, July 30, 2015. The barque Eagle is the only active commissioned sailing vessel in American military service. (U.S. Coast Guard photo by Auxiliarist David Lau)

Today’s Sousa march is the one that so aptly fits Independence Day, The Stars & Stripes Forever. It was written on Christmas Day, 1896, first performed near Philadelphia on May 14, 1897, and following an Act of Congress in 1987, it was officially adopted as the national march of the United States of America. Whenever I hear it, it almost makes my heart burst with pride!

The most touching tribute to our flag and our country that I think I ever saw was at Buckingham Palace in London on 9/11/01, when they played our National Anthem. Just think of that – British military playing a song that commemorates a battle that they lost as a tribute to a sister country.

I just read that this is the only time that another country’s national anthem has been played outside Buckingham Palace, apart from during state visits. Her Majesty the Queen personally authorized the Guards to break protocol and play this, to give some comfort to Americans stranded in London due to airport closures.

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118 Responses to General Discussion, Wednesday, July 4, 2018

  1. Lucille says:
    July 4, 2018 at 12:45 am

    Somewhere along the line when I was a teenager the Eagle became a real love of mine. I had dozens of magazine photos which were kept in a scrapbook along with pictures of other sailing craft.

    I think it had to do with having read a romantic novel when I was around 14 whose central character was a handsome sailing captain. LOL! The title was PRAISE AT MORNING which was taken from an Alexander Pope quote: “Some praise at morning what they blame at night, but always think the last opinion right.” Surprising the things you can remember from 62 years ago. I wonder if that book is still in my library…I’ll have to check. Just for old times sake, I hope so.

    The 295-foot barque Eagle

    The training vessel came into United States possession after World War II and is considered war reparation from Germany where it was built in 1936.

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  2. Lucille says:
    July 4, 2018 at 12:52 am

    Have a lovely red, white and blue day….

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  3. Gil says:
    July 4, 2018 at 1:10 am

    Happy 4th of July! Something exciting, some relaxing, a heat wave, maybe cooling off at the beach or pool, and lots of good food! And fireworks! (Add bacon to any of the previous.) Whatever YOU choose to do today, I hope you enjoy yourself and celebrate our country’s birthday in spirit with me and my family, as I think about everyone and how lucky we are to be from this great country! (Im doing all the cooking 🙄)

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  4. WeeWeed says:
    July 4, 2018 at 7:49 am

    Mornin’ y’all!

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  5. auscitizenmom says:
    July 4, 2018 at 9:31 am

    Happy 4th of July! 😀

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  6. nyetneetot says:
    July 4, 2018 at 10:40 am

    Mornin’ stella! (Smiter of those that ought to be smote) 😎 🍸 (Long Island Iced Tea)
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    Also just in case someday; mornin’ to Elvis Chupacabra, F.D.R. in Hell and sundance! :mrgreen:

    Breakfast!

    NEW and IMPROVED breakfast with extra bacon for ZurichMike!

    Blueberry Scones

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  7. TheOriginalG-d&Country says:
    July 4, 2018 at 10:58 am

    Ok Stella, we must have a Vulcan mind-meld going on with sailing pictures because today I was showing the Eagle too!

    Our 1st image was originally entitled Yankee Doodle but it came to be known as The Spirit of ’76 by A.M.Willard:

    Then we have this colorful Ladies Home Journal cover showing how to respect our flag by never having it touch the ground (sorry I did not have time to clean up the label):

    And ending with a couple of photos of the USCGC Eagle:

    …and The Constitution, followed by The Eagle, leading a flotilla in Boston in 2012 to celebrate The Constitution’s role in the War of 1812.

    Thank You God for our great country, and for allowing me to live here.
    Have a great day everyone!

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  8. TheOriginalG-d&Country says:
    July 4, 2018 at 11:32 am

    So these are especially for Gil’s little guy 😉

    I never knew that replicas of sailing ships like this were being built ($$$$$$). I have pics of 3 or 4 different vessels. They are not exact replicas as they must meet safety regulations and have newer technology, but that can be hidden, and we can enjoy!

    This is The Gotheborg:

    …and her new 6 pound cannon. What is interesting in viewing photos of the ship’s interior is that sometimes it’s hard to figure out which way is up because the walls are curved, and it’s mostly all unfinished wood.

    Have to run now, see you all later today! Have a great day! 😉

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  9. stella says:
    July 4, 2018 at 1:13 pm

    One of the Great 4th of July Speeches

    https://www.weeklystandard.com/geoffrey-norman/one-of-the-great-4th-of-july-speeches

    One of the great July 4th speeches was delivered by a shy man who played baseball for a living. Lou Gehrig played every day, never took a game off, until he was told, at age 35, that he was dying. More than 60,000 fans and former teammates came out to Yankee Stadium to honor him. Between the two games of the doubleheader, he came out of the Yankee’s dugout and stood, listening as former teammates spoke into the microphones that had been set up behind home plate. He was embarrassed enough by their words that he teared up. Among those paying tribute was Babe Ruth, his old teammate. The two had been estranged over some thoughtless remark of Ruth’s but they patched it up on this day.

    When it was Gehrig’s turn, he couldn’t manage the words and and asked announcer and baseball writer Sid Mercer to speak for him.

    “Lou has asked me,” Mercer said, “to thank all of you. He is too moved to speak.”

    Gehrig began walking back to the dugout but the fans weren’t having it and shouted “We want Gehrig.”

    Gehrig turned around and headed back toward the plate.

    “Fans, for the past two weeks you have been reading about a bad break I got. Yet today I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of the earth.” …

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  10. stella says:
    July 4, 2018 at 1:32 pm

    Rare copy of the US Declaration of Independence is found in a British archive among papers of an aristocrat who supported the rebels

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5917327/Rare-US-independence-declaration-UK-archive.html

    A rare parchment copy of the American Declaration of Independence has been found at a British archive among the papers of an aristocrat who supported the rebels, officials have said.

    The manuscript was discovered at the West Sussex Record Office in the southern English city of Chichester by a team of researchers led by two Harvard University academics.

    Tests supported the hypothesis that it was produced in the 1780s, West Sussex County Council said earlier this week – just a few years after the declaration itself was issued in 1776.

    The document ‘is the only other contemporary manuscript copy of the Declaration of Independence on parchment apart from the signed copy at the National Archives in Washington DC,’ known as the Matlack Declaration, a council statement said earlier this week.

    The parchment is believed to originally have belonged to Charles Lennox, the Third Duke of Richmond.

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  11. John Denney says:
    July 4, 2018 at 1:33 pm

    When I enlisted in the Coast Guard, I seriously thought I’d get to sail the Eagle.

    Yeah, I was young and dumb. Later found out that cadets at the Coast Guard Academy in New London, CT get to sail it, but not us enlisted boots.

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  12. MaryfromMarin says:
    July 4, 2018 at 2:54 pm

    A blessed Independence Day to all ! With special blessings and thanks to all those here who serve or have served in our military!

    May God bless America, and lead her always.

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  13. Lucille says:
    July 4, 2018 at 3:07 pm

    Sailors Aboard USS Harry S. Truman Give Shout Outs For The 4th of July

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    • lovely says:
      July 4, 2018 at 7:30 pm

      It sounds like they are going to teach them to scuba dive and get them out.

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      • stella says:
        July 4, 2018 at 8:38 pm

        It isn’t that hard to learn as much as they need to know. I learned in a swimming pool in Acapulco, and went down 30 feet in Acapulco Bay the next day (with an experienced diver holding my hand).

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        • lovely says:
          July 4, 2018 at 8:44 pm

          Problem is that they are 3 miles from the opening of the cave, not sure what is in-between but it doesn’t sound good. Points of passage will only allow for one person to fit through at a time, there are strong currents, visibility is zero at points, the water situation will only get worse for the next 2 1/2 months.

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        • lovely says:
          July 4, 2018 at 8:46 pm

          Oh and I forgot there are certain spots in the narrow passages that the divers actually had to remove their scuba gear.

          SMH.

          Again I understand adventurous boys, the youngest are only 11 but the coach? How he heck do you put your boys in this kind of danger?

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          • rheavolans says:
            July 4, 2018 at 9:00 pm

            I didn’t follow the story in great detail. Did they go in further in to get away from rising water? Were they in the cave when the flooding began and had to go further in to get away from it?

            Though even I have to admit that the idea sounds, well, foolish. If you go further in to escape the flood, it seems like you would end up trapped.

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            • auscitizenmom says:
              July 4, 2018 at 9:08 pm

              Yes. The way I heard it, they were in the first mile (really stupid IMO) and when it started flooding kept going to escape the rising waters.

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            • lovely says:
              July 4, 2018 at 10:17 pm

              We don’t know exactly yet. We do know that the boys told some of their rescuers that they were participating in an initiation to show that they were becoming men. They were to travel to the farthest cave within the labyrinth of cave and tunnels and sign a wall.

              Apparently it is a local rite of passage.

              It is just the start of the monsoon season and they didn’t expect a storm. Storm came and their passage out was gone. There are warning signs around the cave mouth.

              It sounds like it was a spontaneous decision to go into the cave. The brought no food and they only had one flashlight.

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        • lovely says:
          July 4, 2018 at 8:51 pm

          Just reading more about it. It seems most of the boys don’t even know how to swim. SMH.

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  15. czarina33 says:
    July 4, 2018 at 7:36 pm

    Anybody heard from Joshua? Hope you’re doing okay!

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  16. auscitizenmom says:
    July 4, 2018 at 9:00 pm

    lilbirdee12’s prayer:

    Our Heavenly Father, Your children come to you tonight to ask for healing and peace throughout our country so that we may return to being One Nation Under God. Guide us to be leaders in Your Kingdom, spreading Your Love and Salvation to all. Forgive us our sins and deliver us from evil.

    Lord, we ask for a blanket of protection over all our troops and law enforcement who serve to defend and protect us. Bless our representatives with the strength and wisdom they need to achieve the path You have chosen for us.

    Please place Your Guardian Angels of Protection around Donald Trump and Mike Pence and their families as they seek to lead America back to You.

    Grant us patience, Lord, as the evil ones try to anger us and cause us to fall.
    Spread blessings over Israel and Netanyahu.

    We humbly ask that You please comfort those who are grieving and in pain.
    Thank you Father, for Your Love and the gift of Life.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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  17. auscitizenmom says:
    July 4, 2018 at 9:07 pm

    Well, I am bummed. I set my DVR to record the 4th of July stuff tonight. But, I didn’t realize the WH one was on Hallmark. 😦 I missed the first half of it. I had set it on the Macy’s show. It sucked. I just watched a couple of minutes of it. Didn’t look patriotic to me. 🙄 The Hallmark one was.

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  18. TheOriginalG-d&Country says:
    July 4, 2018 at 9:32 pm

    It is CRAZY outside! I’ve never heard so many fireworks in my life excepton TV! The town has them, two surrounding towns have them, people in the neighborhood who never did fireworks before are doing them! What does that tell you? 🙂 🙂 🙂 Happy people have fireworks. people with extra money have fireworks.

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    • stella says:
      July 4, 2018 at 9:47 pm

      Tucker doesn’t like them, I can tell you that.

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      • lovely says:
        July 4, 2018 at 10:26 pm

        Stella I gave my really nervous dog (24 pounds) 3 mg of Melatonin she is out like a light, normally she would be running, shaking, pacing and digging. Someone told me to try it so I did because nothing seemed to work to calm her down.

        She has never before not paced the night away.

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        • auscitizenmom says:
          July 4, 2018 at 10:36 pm

          I’ll have to suggest this to my friend. She has a puggle, who is a little hyper. She goes nuts during a T-storm. She came home the other day and the dog had trashed the whole house, even the bathrooms. So, now she has to put her in her crate whenever she leaves because we have all these pop up storms at this time of year. (Of course, I had suggested this before and she was worried that the doggie would bang around in the box)

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          • lovely says:
            July 4, 2018 at 10:37 pm

            The person told me 1 1/2 mg for my 7 pound dog but she isn’t bothered at all by the fireworks.

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          • stella says:
            July 4, 2018 at 10:47 pm

            I’m a huge fan of crates!

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            • auscitizenmom says:
              July 4, 2018 at 10:52 pm

              I have a cage for mine and she never minded being put in it. That is, until I put her in it because the maintenance guy might come and I had to leave. When I got back, there was blood all around her mouth and on the bars to the cage. And, she was a wreck. She does all right when they come in if I am not here, I discovered after that. She carries on like a lunatic when I am here because she is very protective of me. She will bark for two hours after they leave.

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              • stella says:
                July 4, 2018 at 10:55 pm

                I crate Tucker for some time every day (less as time goes on), and he sleeps in his crate at night. If he is like Stella, he will eventually not spend nights in the crate either, but I have always had gates on the kitchen doorways, so he can be confined there when I’m not at home. That’s what I did with Stella, and it works out fine.

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        • stella says:
          July 4, 2018 at 10:45 pm

          He’s doing fine. He’s not afraid, just wants to look outside and bark now and then. I thought he might be worse, but he’s not. I will say that we haven’t had the really loud fireworks that we have had in past years.

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          • lovely says:
            July 4, 2018 at 10:54 pm

            Ours are getting louder and louder.

            My dog woke up but she doesn’t have the energy to pace, run or dig so I’m going to take her bed and see if she’ll go back to sleep.

            I’m happy tucker isn’t afraid of them 🙂 .

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        • stella says:
          July 4, 2018 at 10:46 pm

          PS: Congratulations on finding something that works for your pup!

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        • Gil says:
          July 4, 2018 at 11:45 pm

          Ive never given them melatonin just benadryl. Kiddo did party poppers and snappers, thats all thats legal, but my beagle still got scared. They used to hide in the shower! I am hearing a bunch of illegal fireworks, normal anywhere else, which means people want to celebrate even in California!

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    • auscitizenmom says:
      July 4, 2018 at 9:52 pm

      The fireworks have been going for a couple of hours, non-stop here in the complex. They aren’t even supposed to shoot them off here. Actually, there have been some since the weekend, even. My poor little doogie went out to pee last night and instead of dawdling like she usually does, she turned and ran back in the door when a big boom went off not too far from us. Inside, she just ignores it all. I think there is a lot of optimism.

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    • lovely says:
      July 4, 2018 at 10:23 pm

      There are more fireworks here than I’ve heard before also 🙂 !

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  19. auscitizenmom says:
    July 4, 2018 at 10:31 pm

    You know, having a poor memory is not always a bad thing. I saw that Lonesome Dove was on today. I watched it and, even knowing I have seen it all once or twice, I didn’t remember hardly anything. It was like watching it for the first time.

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  20. litenmaus says:
    July 4, 2018 at 10:41 pm

    My nephew was out baling by himself and was involved in a freak accident. His recovery will take a few weeks and he will be fine, but he was just released from the hospital and will be bedridden for at least a week. Our scheduled trip to attend the Trump rally has been cancelled.

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    • lovely says:
      July 4, 2018 at 10:47 pm

      So sorry litenmaus. Prayers for his healing.

      I don’t know if you can get someone’s to go with you but I have never been to one where they even asked for ID let alone looked at the name on the ticket. But now that I am thinking about it I think I only saw candidate Trump so security is probably much more tight now especially with all the threats against our president’s life.

      So sorry again about your dear nephew.

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      • litenmaus says:
        July 4, 2018 at 11:16 pm

        Thank you for the prayers lovely.

        I believe you might be right about tightened security. The fairgrounds committee put out a statement this morning that chairs would not be permitted through the front gate.

        I’m okay with missing this rally and remain optimistic that another opportunity to see the President will come along.

        The Convention center stated that they would not be opening their doors until 1:30

        That is too long a time for me to

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    • auscitizenmom says:
      July 4, 2018 at 10:47 pm

      Oh, I am so sorry. I hope he heals well.

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    • stella says:
      July 4, 2018 at 10:49 pm

      I’m so sorry – both for your nephew and for you! Good to hear that he will be fine in the long run.

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    • Gil says:
      July 4, 2018 at 11:41 pm

      So sorry. Best wishes for recovery. Thank goodness for internet access to watch together anyway!

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  21. lovely says:
    July 4, 2018 at 11:07 pm

    Good article about the Thai boys.

    Difficult Decision Looms on Rescuing Thai Boys From Cave

    Should rescuers try to scuba dive with victims through flooded caves or wait months until waters recede?

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/difficult-decision-looms-on-rescuing-thai-boys-from-cave-1530635607?mod=hp_listc_pos1

    It seems to me unless a particular boy(s) panic that they are going to dive out.

    They can’t drill another opening to the cavern that the boys are in without compromising the structure of the cave further endangering the boys and 4 months in a cave that still may flood would be far more interesting in a movie than in real life for teens, pre-teens and their 25 year old coach.

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  22. lovely says:
    July 4, 2018 at 11:30 pm

    Hey Antifa! Happy 4th of July!!!

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