General Discussion, Monday, February 12, 2018

Posted on February 12, 2018 by Stella

Come live with me and be my love,
And we will all the pleasures prove
That hills and valleys, dales and fields,
Or woods and steepy mountains yields.

And we will sit upon the rocks
Seeing the shepherds feed their flocks,
By shallow rivers, to whose falls
Melodious birds sing madrigals.

And I will make thee a bed of roses
And a thousand fragrant posies,
A cap of flowers, and a kirtle
Embroidered with leaves of myrtle;

Christopher Marlowe (from The Passionate Shepherd to His Love)

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130 Responses to General Discussion, Monday, February 12, 2018

  2. Lucille says:
    February 12, 2018 at 12:35 am

    Last week we discussed beautiful or “dream” windows we’d like for our own homes. Of course since then I’ve been obsessing over windows…LOL! This is the first offering, sans furniture…

    Craigcrook castle dates back to the 16th century and is three miles from the centre of Edinburgh. Five bedroom castle in Edinburgh for £6m

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  3. MaryfromMarin says:
    February 12, 2018 at 12:37 am

    Excellent article:

    Pain capable children and human dignity: What’s really at stake in abortion politics

    https://angelusnews.com/content/pain-capable-children-and-human-dignity-what-s-really-at-stake-in-abortion-politics

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    • rheavolans says:
      February 12, 2018 at 8:48 am

      “The justification given for not limiting even the most egregious abortions was this: we can’t be sure that babies with limited brain matter—anencephalic babies and those with hydrocephalus—feel pain like other babies do. Therefore it would be unjust to limit the ability of the mother to end that pregnancy, and therefore, limiting abortion at 20 weeks is an infringement on medical care of mothers in extremely difficult pregnancies. ”

      What the -! ‘The child may not feel pain, so you can’t infringe on my right to kill it.’ AAAAHH!!!

      An aside: The interesting thing about all the World War II research I’m doing is how Hitler is viewed as the be-all, end-all of evil. I haven’t looked yet to see how many people Stalin killed, and the Khmer Rouge was at least as indiscriminate though not as effective at mass-murder and genocide. I started to wonder as I was writing yesterday, “Is Hitler really the worst mass-murderer in the world?” Then I had a realization and went, “Silly me. Abortion has killed 55 million. Compared to Planned Parenthood, Hitler was a poser.’

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  4. Lucille says:
    February 12, 2018 at 12:46 am

    Second offering…

    Madresfield Court near Malvern in rural Worcestershire. The home is moated and has been in the Lygon family for nearly 900 years, the 29th generation living there now.

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  5. nyetneetot says:
    February 12, 2018 at 6:12 am

    Mornin’ stella! (Smiter of those that ought to be smote) 😎 🍸 (Long Island Iced Tea)
    Mornin’ WeeWeed! (Master Mixologist Extrodinare) 😎 🍸 (Old Fashioned)
    Mornin’ Menagerie! 😎 |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| (Jack Daniels – Single Barrel )
    Mornin’ Ad rem! (Queen Felis catus) 🐱 🍸 (Flaming Lamborghini)
    Mornin’ Sharon! 😎 🍸 🍸 (earthquake)
    Mornin’ ytz4mee! 😎 🍸 (cosmopolitan)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! 🙂 🍸 (white wine and perrier)
    Mornin’ partyzantski! 🙂 |_| (Tom Collins)
    Mornin’ texan59! 🙂 |_| (Black & Tan)
    Mornin’ ZurichMike! 🙂 🍸 (fuzzy navel)
    Mornin’ Col.(R) Ken! (hand salute) 🙂 |_| (Boilermaker)
    Mornin’ czarina33! (aka czarina) 🙂 🍸 (Lynchburg Lemonade)
    Mornin’ czarowniczy! 🙂 |_| (Wild Turkey Rare Breed)
    Mornin’ letjusticeprevail2014! 🙂 |_| (Irish Car Bomb)
    Mornin’ Patriot1783-ctdar! (aka “ctdar”) 🙂 🍸 (grasshopper)
    Mornin’ tessa50! 🙂 🍸 (flaming volcano)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! 🙂 🍸 (sidecar)
    Mornin’ varsityward! 🙂 |_| (Godfather)
    Mornin’ MaryfromMarin! 😀 |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| (Mortlach)
    Mornin’ Wooly Covfefe! (aka “Wooly Phlox” aka “taqiyyologist”) 🙂 |_| (Roy Rogers)
    Mornin’ Howie! (aka “doodahdaze”) 🙂 |_| (Classic Daiquiri)
    Mornin’ TwoLaine! 🙂 |_| (Gin & Tonic)
    Mornin’ Sha! 🙂 🍸 (Lemon Drop)
    Mornin’ BigMamaTEA! 🙂 🍸 (Harvey Wallbanger)
    Mornin’ cetera5! (aka “Cetera”) 🙂 |_| (Blackberry wine)
    Mornin’ The Tundra PA! 🙂 🍸 (Gentleman Jack Whiskey Sling)
    Mornin’ lovely! 🙂 |_| (Backdraft)
    Mornin’ michellc! 🙂 🍸 (Salty dog)
    Mornin’ auscitizenmom! 🙂 🍸 (Kiss on the Lips)
    Mornin’ Margaret-Ann! 🙂 🍸 (White Russian)
    Mornin’ Auntie Lib! 🙂 🍸 (Tom and Jerry)
    Mornin’ holly100! 🙂 🍸 (Jack & Coke)
    Mornin’ Pam! 🙂 (Not even water)
    Mornin’ Ms.Tee! 🙂 🍸 (Mojito)
    Mornin’ koolkosherkitchen! 🙂 🍸 🍸 (Cuba Libre)
    Mornin’ ImpeachEmAll 🙂 |_| (Flaming Dr. Pepper)
    Mornin’ Monroe! 🙂 |_| (Stinger)
    Mornin’ Les! 🙂 |_| (Rusty Nail)
    Mornin’ shiloh1973! 🙂 |_| (Jack Daniels)
    Mornin’ TexasRanger! 🙂 |_| (Whiskey Smash)
    Mornin’ Ziiggii! 🙂 |_| (B52)
    Mornin’ oldiadguy! 🙂 |_| (Rum & Coke)
    Mornin’ smiley! (“stuck in spambucket”) 🙂 🍸 (Spanish coffee)
    Mornin’ derk! (“Stellars”) 🙂 🍸 (Kamikaze)
    Mornin’ Jacqueline Taylor Robson 🙂 🍸 (Shirley Temple)
    Mornin’ facebkwallflower! 🙂 |_| (Night Train Express)
    Mornin’ Ms. Cindy! (aka “Ms Cynlynn” aka “ms cynlynn”) 🙂 🍸 (1970 ducru beaucaillou)
    Mornin’ sandandsea2015! 🙂 🍸 (1961 Château Montrose)
    Mornin’ amwick! 🙂 🍸 (Blue motorcycle)
    Mornin’ hocuspocus13! 🙂 🍸 (1970 Chateau Latour)
    Mornin’ Sloth1963! 🙂 🍸 (1971 Moulin Touchais)
    Mornin’ MTeresa! (Ex-lurker) 🙂 |_| (Albanian Raki Moskat)
    Mornin’ rheavolans! (aka “Rhea Salacia Volans”) 🙂 |_| (Hot Buttered Rum)
    Mornin’ joshua! 🙂 |_| (Mudslide)
    Mornin’ John Denney! 🙂 |_| (RumChata)
    Mornin’ litenmaus! 🙂 |_| (Stolichnaya elit, no ice)
    Mornin’ kinthenorthwest! 🙂 🍸 (A Lonely Island Lost in the Middle of a Foggy Sea)
    Mornin’ TwoLaine! 🙂 |_| (Smoking Bishop)
    Mornin’ patternpuzzler! 🙂 🍸 (Old Lady)
    Mornin’ Senatssekretär FREISTAAT DANZIG! 🙂 |_| (Red Russian)
    Mornin’ G-d&Country! 🙂 🍸 (Blind Russian)
    Mornin’ Gary! 🙂 |_| (Yuengling)
    Mornin’ valeriecurren! 🙂 🍸 (Flaming Sambuca)
    Mornin’ Lucille! 🙂 🍸 (Peach Schnapps)
    Mornin’ Lburg! 🙂 🍸 (Lburg lemonade)
    Mornin’ davidhuntpe! 🙂 |_| (Baileys Irish Cream on the rocks)
    Mornin’ skipper1961! 🙂 |_| (Brompton’s Cocktail – No cherry, no umbrella, no plastic monkey)
    Mornin’ mightyconservative! 🙂 |_| (Benjamin Franklin’s clarified milk punch)
    Mornin’ whiners and complainers! 😛 (No drink for you!)
    Mornin’ to people posting that I missed. 😳
    Mornin’ to all you lurkers! 😕

    Also just in case someday; mornin’ to Elvis Chupacabra, F.D.R. in Hell and sundance! :mrgreen:

    Breakfast!

    Doughnuts for coffee!

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  6. Lburg says:
    February 12, 2018 at 7:32 am

    I was thinking this morning, Nyet, that it is really special to have a morning congregation spot.

    So thank you Stella and Nyet. Thank you and Good Morning!

    “Once she’d graduated from Ever After High, she’d open her own chain of bakeries. She’d publish cookbooks and create an entire line of gourmet treats under her label, Ginger’s Goodies. By sharing her talents on a larger scale, she’d help make the world a happier place. For Ginger Breadhouse believed, with every ounce, gram, and sprinkle of her soul, that good food was one of the secret ingredients to happiness. Whether in times of celebration or sadness, beautifully prepared goodies had the power to bring people together.” ~ Suzanne Selfors, Kiss and Spell

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  8. Menagerie says:
    February 12, 2018 at 8:02 am

    Back to the comma discussion we had the other day, I am leaving this here as food for thought. A friend posted it on FB.

    On the Our Father. A Lenten suggestion:

    Don’t put a comma (pause) after “our trespasses.”

    When it’s there the prayer tends to sound like this:

    Forgive us our trespasses because we forgive those who trespass against us

    Instead of this:

    Forgive us our trespasses in the way we forgive those who trespass against us

    The thought that I am forgiven in the degree that I forgive is highly motivational. And if scripture is to be trusted, highly accurate–Matthew 7:2.

    Then perhaps ask for the grace to forgive as God Himself does?

    Perhaps more to think about than the comma, but that did catch my attention.

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  10. Gil says:
    February 12, 2018 at 9:31 am

    I am going to make cookies for my kiddo’s Valentines Day party. He’s decorating so just sprinkles. His cincern is “taste testing” to make sure they’re good. I thought the skill to decorate these is fantastic. I always wonder though, when so much time is spent in prep, doesnt the food get stale?

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  11. G-d&Country says:
    February 12, 2018 at 10:19 am

    Morning all! 🙂
    Here is today’s painting ‘Romeo & Juliet’ by Sir Francis Dicksee:

    Sir Francis Bernard Dicksee 1853 – 1928 was an English Victorian painter and illustrator, best known for his pictures of dramatic literary, historical, and legendary scenes. He also was a noted painter of portraits of fashionable women, which helped to bring him success in his own time. Dicksee’s father, Thomas Dicksee, was a painter who taught Frank as well as his sister Margaret from a young age. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Dicksee

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  12. G-d&Country says:
    February 12, 2018 at 10:24 am

    Here is my contribution to Valentine goodies:

    Having a terrible time with allergies lately. It had the nerve to warm up in February! So hello to everyone. Great pictures, poems and posts today (and every day). I’m probably signing off for the rest of the day.

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  13. michellc says:
    February 12, 2018 at 12:41 pm

    I saw this linked over at IOTW. I haven’t read the article, just looked at the pictures. I’ve never understood why young and old women do this to themselves.
    I remember once when I was talking to a lady on the phone about a horse, she sounded normal, talked about being a farm girl her entire life. She was in her 50’s at the time, had a husband. Then I showed up at her house to look at the horse and she comes out with purple streaks in her hair, ring in her nose, lip and eyebrow. Part of her head was shaved with some weird tattoo. Then every exposed part of her body was also covered in strange tattoos.
    Underneath it all you could see she was a beautiful woman. I just couldn’t understand why she would do this to herself.

    http://blonlee.com/ugly-feminists/

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    • stella says:
      February 12, 2018 at 12:50 pm

      I don’t get it either.

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    • auscitizenmom says:
      February 12, 2018 at 1:26 pm

      I read most of the article and the writer actually makes a lot of sense to me. The pictures are disgusting. Toward the end, I suddenly remembered I had a friend who is in the process of doing this to herself. She had gained a huge amount of weight and finally decided to lose it. She dieted and went to a gym and worked out and started losing it. She started feeling better about herself, but somewhere along the way went right off the cliff. She started getting tattoos, had many rings put in her ears, nose, tongue, and lips. It actually became harder and harder to talk to her while looking at her. Last I saw her, she had both arms pretty much covered in tattoos along with her chest and legs. She really hates her husband and I don’t know if that is what is pushing all this. 🙄

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      • michellc says:
        February 12, 2018 at 2:24 pm

        It sounds more like she hates herself.

        Kids and young people are often dumb and make immature decisions and then mark themselves for life. I can kind of get it, especially if as teens they have parents who let them do as they please.

        Older, mature people I don’t understand marking yourself for life.

        I try to not be judgmental but I just don’t like tattoos and facial piercings. I don’t like the wild dyed hair, shaved heads and weird clothes either, but at least it’s not something permanent.

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        • auscitizenmom says:
          February 12, 2018 at 2:39 pm

          I’m not sure where it comes from, but she is around 50, I think. She says she wants to get back to the real “her”.

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        • rheavolans says:
          February 12, 2018 at 3:26 pm

          I don’t mind tattoos, as long as they’re done tastefully and can be covered up. One of the places I applied at had pretty strict rules about how you were not to let any tattoos show, and they told me this early on. And imagine my surprise when, years ago, I applied at a local fast-food franchise and they questioned me about my ear cuff, because they had rules about facial piercings and they wanted to make sure I didn’t have any crazy ideas. The last place I would have ever expected to hear about that as part of their dress standards was a fast food franchise. (Which bodes poorly for these folks with piercings all over their faces, doesn’t it?)

          My standards might be a little low because I don’t mind women who have small piercings in their noses, but I think nose rings are ugly, and men who have nose rings are revolting. And any other facial piercings are just…ugh. Get some taste.

          And I promise I DID NOT NEED to see those pictures. Ewwwww!

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          • michellc says:
            February 12, 2018 at 4:40 pm

            I was never one who had any desire for tattoos or piercings or weird hairstyles. One of my brothers though went through a phase where he wanted his ear pierced and wanted a tattoo. He conned me into piercing his ear at home and he ended up with it getting seriously infected. My mother told him it was punishment for doing something so stupid. She then asked him if he thought God would be pleased with him marking up the body he created. He decided God probably wouldn’t so he never got a tattoo. He probably also thought after how much he went through with his ear that he’d lose a limb if he got a tattoo. lol

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    • auscitizenmom says:
      February 12, 2018 at 1:45 pm

      I did differ about one thing, armpit hair. The author rightly pointed out that it is ridiculous to not shave and then make a big deal about it. Also, the author went on and on about the smell. Well, excuse me, don’t we all pretty much expect men to keep their hair? Having said that, I actually prefer for women to shave, probably just because that is what I am used to, but I also am not for men shaving armpits, chests, legs, or backs (although I might be open more to that 😯 ) Anyway, if odor is the problem then why aren’t we pushing for men to shave their armpits? Just a thought.

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      • stella says:
        February 12, 2018 at 1:56 pm

        If you are clean, and use a deodorant, there is no reason why you should smell any more with hair than without, imo.

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      • michellc says:
        February 12, 2018 at 2:28 pm

        I think it’s more because I’ve ran into these type of women in public before and it’s almost like they go out of their way to not bathe. I’ve read them say on social media sites that they don’t wear deodorant, the hair and smell I guess somehow makes them free.

        Disclosure: I still haven’t sat down and read the article, so I’m not sure what the author said about the armpit hair.

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      • Jacqueline Taylor Robson says:
        February 12, 2018 at 5:06 pm

        I’ve always been kind of neutral about armpit hair. I learned that women who do kayaking, rowing etc. don’t shave because of irritation. I reckon that’s true of other sports as well. I just don’t judge others due to something like that ’cause you just never know! I just do what I do for me, and leave others to decide for themselves. Life is simpler that way, and It’s not up to me to judge what anyone else does if it doesn’t affect me.

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      • G-d&Country says:
        February 13, 2018 at 1:31 pm

        I differed on him saying no one is born fat. I sure was! I was an almost 10 pound pink basketball with a black curly wig! My research says that if you are born with an excess of fat cells as I was, you fight the fat your whole life versus someone who was not born fat. Now when a thin person gets fat, and the fat cells multiply, then they are in the same situation as someone born fat. Also fat women are much more likely to have fat children. My mother was not fat. I don’t know what happened with me.

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    • Jacqueline Taylor Robson says:
      February 12, 2018 at 5:00 pm

      I have a friend where I used to work who had a little Tweety Bird tattooed on her hip just blow her bikini line. You wouldn’t see it unless she showed you. After having 2 children, Tweety looks like he has cancer! It was always a joke in our Dept., but she never got another tattoo! Live and learn, lol!

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      • michellc says:
        February 12, 2018 at 6:59 pm

        I have a niece that got a tramp stamp when they were all the rage. I asked her why she would want something that labels you a tramp. She told me I was old and shouldn’t even know what a tramp stamp was, but that’s just what people call them, but they’re cool.
        She I guess had a hard time taking care of it where it was and it took forever to heal. She whined about how bad it hurt getting it and whined that it hurt until it healed and she’d never get another one.
        Now she regrets it and says she should have listened to me and that now that she’s older it doesn’t look like it once did. lol
        I’ve never saw it and never wanted to.

        I’ve always laughed at the women who get the roses on their boobs that turn into long stemmed roses after about 10 years. lol

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  14. auscitizenmom says:
    February 12, 2018 at 2:04 pm

    I just have to post this. It makes me smile whenever I see it.

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  15. Lucille says:
    February 12, 2018 at 2:24 pm

    Rush Limbaugh’s Reaction To Barack and Michelle Obama Official Portrait

    Hahahahahahahaha! What a travesty! Good grief, and this has to be displayed at the White House! Ugly!

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  16. stella says:
    February 12, 2018 at 4:35 pm

    Vanessa Trump taken to hospital as precaution after white powder sent to her home

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/vanessa-trump-taken-hospital-precaution-after-suspicious-letter-n847231

    President Donald Trump’s daughter-in-law was taken to a Manhattan hospital as a precaution on Monday after a suspicious letter containing an unidentified white powder was sent to her apartment, senior law enforcement and city officials told NBC News.

    The letter was addressed to Vanessa Trump’s husband, Donald Trump Jr., the eldest child of the president and his ex-wife Ivana.

    After the letter was opened, three people at the residence were taken to New York Presbyterian-Weill Cornell Medical Center strictly as a precaution, the New York City Fire Department said.

    There is no indication anyone suffered any injuries; the NYPD said the substance was deemed to be non-hazardous and was taken to a lab for further analysis.

    “How disturbed must a person be to do what they did to a mother of five children?” Michael Cohen, President Trump’s personal attorney, said in a statement. “This dangerous and reckless act goes beyond political differences.”

    The Secret Service said it was investigating and would have no further comment.

    Residents who exited the 54th Street building were shocked by the incident.

    David Schnall, a 52-year-old lawyer who lives in the building, called the incident “horrible,” and said he’s “upset it happened.”

    Schnall also said, “The media is inflaming a lot of hysteria with regard to Trump and this is just a product of that. There is an inflammation of hatred towards the president and anything to do with him, and hopefully this will be a signal for people to stop.”

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  17. Lucille says:
    February 12, 2018 at 4:57 pm

    Dan Bongino: Adam Schiff is a snake

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  18. stella says:
    February 12, 2018 at 5:13 pm

    This is amazing. Why anybody wants to live in San Francisco is beyond me.

    Unrolled thread from @Sharkyl

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/961826942134583306.html


    Ok a little thread about crime in SF and why it’s so incredibly frustrating for the people who live here.

    (Hopefully @LondonBreed will help? I know she cares a lot about this issue, hope she reads this thread) @hknightsf might be interested too.
    Last month a lady named Linda rented a van from us for a few days. It was due back on January 31st. It didn’t come back. Instead, the next day, a guy we’ve never heard of called and asked to extend the rental… a month! This isn’t normal.
    We know from experience this is very suspicious. We told them to bring the van back right away. He said they would be back the next morning. We knew that was unlikely. We were right. The next day came and went with no sign of the van.
    Now at this point you have people, probably using stolen IDs, likely using the vehicle to commit more crimes, in a van that is past due. So we should call the police, right? Wrong! The police are *not allowed* to even take a report yet. We have some hoops to jump through first.
    So first we have to wait for the vehicle to be five days past due. Then we have to send a certified letter to the address on the contract. Then we have to wait for the letter to either be signed, or returned as undeliverable.
    Once we have the letter we can go file a claim for embezzlement. NOT stolen car, even though the vehicle has been stolen. It’s embezzlement which is far lower on police priority scale. And we can’t call the report in either. We have to go in person to the station.
    We have to have all original docs including the returned certified letter., title, reg etc. No digital copies. Everything original. Then we have to fill out the paperwork at the station while they run a warrant check on our ID. Yes that’s right: we get investigated first.
    Then the license plate is in the system and maybe we get lucky and a police officer notices the van and runs the plate, but we don’t get a dedicated detective or anything. It’s simply a flag in the system.
    So today we got our certified letter back. Meanwhile we’ve been running a skip trace on this person and they are, as you might expect, bad news. It’s been a week, that van could be anywhere, even Mexico. It takes a while to file a police report, so we decide to go tomorrow.
    This is where the story gets crazy: I’m driving back from a dental appointment just before 5pm and notice I’m right behind one of our vans. Thinking they are returning I call the office to give them a heads up and holy shit it’s the stolen van! Here’s a pic I took while following

    Read the rest. It’s amazing.

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    • Menagerie says:
      February 12, 2018 at 6:14 pm

      I am getting more and more confused and frustrated, and yes, mad. Why is it so many Americans are willing to work so hard and have so many crooks, thugs, illegals, and generational welfare people steal the wealth. Why?

      We may or may not get our, OUR Social Security. But they sure get their freebies, and the criminals are increasingly protected. It is even common now for unashamed, outraged mamas, daddies and other family members to go on television telling us how their loved one should never have been stopped by the police for that criminal action they were committing, apparently up to and including murder.

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      • Gil says:
        February 12, 2018 at 7:12 pm

        Did you know that the families of criminals in prison get an automatic welfare, just for them, for loss of income? My husband told me about the law. Its a secret that lay people arent supposed to be aware of. I think its just CA. He was told by leo.

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    • auscitizenmom says:
      February 12, 2018 at 7:15 pm

      Unbelievable. But, on the other hand, in Cal. if somebody breaks into your house while you are gone and sets up housekeeping, it could take 6 months or more for you to get back in it.

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      • stella says:
        February 12, 2018 at 8:25 pm

        I’ve heard about squatters. It’s not only in CA.

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      • Lucille says:
        February 12, 2018 at 9:06 pm

        My boss’s son purchased a home upstate in California. He renovated it beautifully, staged it, hired a real estate person to handle the sale. She asked if she could stay overnight when she worked late and use the house as her office during the days she showed the house. The owner agreed.

        Well, the house stayed and stayed on the market. The agent claimed she had lots of showings but no nibbles. Turned out she’d moved in and was living there full time. It took quite a bit of time to get her out.

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    • Lucille says:
      February 12, 2018 at 9:50 pm

      The government of California doesn’t care what happens to good people. They are actively supporting illegalities, criminalities and are pursuing a total take-over a la Venezuela. The inmates have taken over the asylum. It’s downright frightening.

      Maybe it’s time for citizens to heed their own senses and start over somewhere else if it’s even remotely feasible. Idaho may be cold and the winters take getting used to, but it’s a solid Republican state. The lefties are trying their best to gain more seats in the legislature. So there’s a fight here, too. But we’re nowhere near Left.

      And, wow, with such laws in place protecting the bad guys in CA, and teachers being forced to teach children immorality and leftist philosophy…it actually is past time to leave.

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    • Menagerie says:
      February 12, 2018 at 6:10 pm

      It just opens a blank white page when I click. Tried several times.

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      • stella says:
        February 12, 2018 at 6:17 pm

        You are right. I will find a better link. It’s a letter from the Judiciary committee to Susan Rice about an odd email she wrote the day of Trump’s inauguration. Must have been as she was walking out the door. It seems to cover Obama’s butt re the Steele dossier.

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  20. stella says:
    February 12, 2018 at 5:32 pm

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  21. Menagerie says:
    February 12, 2018 at 6:09 pm

    Hey guys, do any of you who live up North ever make tourtiere? I believe it’s a French Canadian recipe. I briefly did some volunteer work with a woman who was from Massachusetts and had a family recipe she loved.

    There are many online, and they vary. This is the one I (mostly) stuck to tonight. I have made them before and they are quite tasty. I like a good rich bread with them, but this is me, I like a good bread alone or with anything else.

    https://growagoodlife.com/tourtiere/

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  22. auscitizenmom says:
    February 12, 2018 at 9:00 pm

    lilbirdee12’s prayer:

    Our Heavenly Father, Your children come to you tonight to ask for healing and peace throughout our country so that we may return to being One Nation Under God. Guide us to be leaders in Your Kingdom, spreading Your Love and Salvation to all. Forgive us our sins and deliver us from evil.

    Lord, we ask for a blanket of protection over all our troops and law enforcement who serve to defend and protect us. Bless our representatives with the strength and wisdom they need to achieve the path You have chosen for us.

    Please place Your Guardian Angels of Protection around Donald Trump and Mike Pence and their families as they seek to lead America back to You.

    Grant us patience, Lord, as the evil ones try to anger us and cause us to fall.
    Spread blessings over Israel and Netanyahu.

    We humbly ask that You please comfort those who are grieving and in pain.
    Thank you Father, for Your Love and the gift of Life.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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  23. Lucille says:
    February 12, 2018 at 9:13 pm

    STELLA! I knew that poem you posted by Marlowe was familiar…

    Jimmy Stewart and Hedy Lamarr…the plot is that she wants to marry some U. S. citizen so she can stay in the country…Stewart gets chosen even though she doesn’t know him at all and vice versa.

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  24. auscitizenmom says:
    February 12, 2018 at 10:03 pm

    For a Laugh: From Truth Revolt NYT’s Donald McNeil: Trump’s ‘Hostility’ Toward Hispanics to Blame for Severity of Flu Epidemic “Maybe (it’s) because of President Trump’s hostility to…Hispanics.”

    https://www.truthrevolt.org/news/nyts-donald-mcneil-trumps-hostility-toward-hispanics-blame-severity-flu-epidemic

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  25. Lucille says:
    February 12, 2018 at 10:29 pm

    Idaho Senate Passes Groundbreaking Bill to Inform Women How Their Abortions Can be Reversed
    By Micaiah Bilger – February 12, 2018 | 4:24PM BOISE, ID
    http://www.lifenews.com/2018/02/12/idaho-senate-passes-groundbreaking-bill-to-inform-women-how-their-abortions-can-be-reversed/

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  26. Lucille says:
    February 12, 2018 at 10:37 pm

    “…the only fight which is lost is that which we give up.”
    ― Eric Metaxas, author of “Bonhoeffer: Pastor, Martyr, Prophet, Spy”

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