General Discussion, Sunday, November 26, 2017

Posted on November 26, 2017 by Stella

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  1. MaryfromMarin says:
    November 26, 2017 at 12:05 am

    Good article:

    The Mayflower Compact. This is worth knowing.

    The Mayflower Compact. This is worth knowing.

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  2. Wooly Covfefe says:
    November 26, 2017 at 12:30 am

    Of particular interest, I believe, to Menagerie.

    The Heretics of St. Possenti, by Rolf Nelson

    Great book so far, lots of food for thought, on every page, by a new great publisher.

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  4. Lucille says:
    November 26, 2017 at 12:44 am

    We all seem to love the art of photography here at Stella’s Place. Happened across this at weather.com today…

    Photographing the Abandoned Homes Above the Arctic Circle (PHOTOS)
    By Nicole Bonaccorso – November 14 2017
    https://weather.com/photos/news/abandoned-houses-above-arctic-circle-norway

    The article is excellent, too.

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    • auscitizenmom says:
      November 26, 2017 at 7:50 am

      Interesting. 🙂

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    • Menagerie says:
      November 26, 2017 at 9:41 am

      I loved this, although it makes me a little sad that homes people must have carved out of the wilderness at great cost and effort are abandoned and forgotten.

      Such is life and progress. I would not have wanted to live where my parents did, although I always have wished that I owned the farm in Kansas that my great grandparents built up, and that my grandfather and grandmother lived on, and my dad and all his siblings were born and raised on.

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      • stella says:
        November 26, 2017 at 10:05 am

        THE HOUSE WITH NOBODY IN IT

        by: Joyce Kilmer (1886-1918)

        Whenever I walk to Suffern along the Erie track
        I go by a poor old farmhouse with its shingles broken and black.
        I suppose I’ve passed it a hundred times, but I always stop for a minute
        And look at the house, the tragic house, the house with nobody in it.

        I never have seen a haunted house, but I hear there are such things;
        That they hold the talk of spirits, their mirth and sorrowings.
        I know this house isn’t haunted, and I wish it were, I do;
        For it wouldn’t be so lonely if it had a ghost or two.

        This house on the road to Suffern needs a dozen panes of glass,
        And somebody ought to weed the walk and take a scythe to the grass.
        It needs new paint and shingles, and the vines should be trimmed and tied;
        But what it needs the most of all is some people living inside.

        If I had a lot of money and all my debts were paid
        I’d put a gang of men to work with brush and saw and spade.
        I’d buy that place and fix it up the way it used to be
        And I’d find some people who wanted a home and give it to them free.

        Now, a new house standing empty, with staring window and door,
        Looks idle, perhaps, and foolish, like a hat on its block in the store.
        But there’s nothing mournful about it; it cannot be sad and lone
        For the lack of something within it that it has never known.

        But a house that has done what a house should do,
        a house that has sheltered life,
        That has put its loving wooden arms around a man and his wife,
        A house that has echoed a baby’s laugh and held up his stumbling feet,
        Is the saddest sight, when it’s left alone, that ever your eyes could meet.

        So whenever I go to Suffern along the Erie track
        I never go by the empty house without stopping and looking back,
        Yet it hurts me to look at the crumbling roof and the shutters fallen apart,
        For I can’t help thinking the poor old house is a house with a broken heart.

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        • Menagerie says:
          November 26, 2017 at 10:44 am

          This is exactly how I feel. There are places out in the country with only crumbled rock walls and the fireplace left standing. I always image the family who built and probably loved their home and land.

          It makes me a little sad to see the old places. Of course, a part of that is because I am so drawn to the wild and lonely places.

          It may be that I will have to end my days in city or town, maybe even in a nursing home surrounded by people. I hope those days will only be at the very end of my life, if they come, and that they will be very brief.

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          • joshua says:
            November 26, 2017 at 12:50 pm

            when I was very young, and dad would drive out in the real countryside on dirt backroads, we would often pass a burn out with only a brick chimney standing….dad was a huge tease, and he said that first a chimney grows up and then folks build a house around it, so these were waiting for their house to be built.

            He also made me believe that goats milk was a good as cows milk since I was lactose intolerant and they did not know about that but put me on goat’s milk…yuk.

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      • joshua says:
        November 26, 2017 at 1:08 pm

        what with electricity, sewer, water, and heat and cooling as today lives present as necessities, living “off the grid” as they love to portray “distant remote living” is just very tough….lots of things take lots of time, energy, and know how that has been lost, or never shown and taught by the older generation to growing kids…and those that leave and go away for education and more urban experiences, cannot usually come back until they get old enough for their kids to be gone, and if they have physical stamina and courage to make the big change to that lifestyle…and by then, many need a source of healthcare services close enough to get to easily.

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  5. Wooly Covfefe says:
    November 26, 2017 at 12:46 am

    The other night Chef was Angry Chef. One of our servers was taking care of, and brought in, a baby girl, probably 6 months old. Just learning to crawl. Such a beautiful, calm baby. in a busy kitchen and restaurant, soaking up all the sights and sounds and people-interaction. Several people, including her son, were watching and holding her for the whole shift.

    We gave Chef the baby girl, when he was Angry Chef. It was like magic. Like a light switch was turned off. He calmly soothed her, like he did when his grown daughter was a baby, and she in turn soothed his savage beast. It was the most amazing, precious, miraculous thing I’ve ever witnessed, and a side of Chef I’d never seen, in ten years, nor had any of us. He slow-danced with her in the crook of his elbow, to old R&B. If they’d been in a rocking chair, they both would have fallen asleep.

    Everyone was amazed at what happened there. I have a picture.

    Angry Chef cannot be angry with a baby in his arms. Not possible. That put everything in his life into stark perspective, and most of us, too.

    The joy this little baby girl brought to the entire staff, for an entire shift, was incalculable.

    And when I think too much, I think: it would be okay 8 months ago to cut her arms and legs off and then pull them out, and then the torso and “calvarium” and throw it in a trash bag.

    Five hours and more joy than most people can handle, vs. trash bag. How much joy is this girl going to give to people for the rest of her life?

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  6. nyetneetot says:
    November 26, 2017 at 7:49 am

    Mornin’ stella! (Smiter of those that ought to be smote) 😎 🍸 (Long Island Iced Tea)
    Mornin’ WeeWeed! (Master Mixologist Extrodinare) 😎 🍸 (Old Fashioned)
    Mornin’ Menagerie! 😎 |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| (Jack Daniels – Single Barrel )
    Mornin’ Ad rem! (Queen Felis catus) 🐱 🍸 (Flaming Lamborghini)
    Mornin’ Sharon! 😎 🍸 🍸 (earthquake)
    Mornin’ ytz4mee! 😎 🍸 (cosmopolitan)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! 🙂 🍸 (white wine and perrier)
    Mornin’ partyzantski! 🙂 |_| (Tom Collins)
    Mornin’ texan59! 🙂 |_| (Black & Tan)
    Mornin’ ZurichMike! 🙂 🍸 (fuzzy navel)
    Mornin’ Col.(R) Ken! (hand salute) 🙂 |_| (Boilermaker)
    Mornin’ czarina33! (aka czarina) 🙂 🍸 (Lynchburg Lemonade)
    Mornin’ czarowniczy! 🙂 |_| (Wild Turkey Rare Breed)
    Mornin’ letjusticeprevail2014! 🙂 |_| (Irish Car Bomb)
    Mornin’ Patriot1783-ctdar! (aka “ctdar”) 🙂 🍸 (grasshopper)
    Mornin’ tessa50! 🙂 🍸 (flaming volcano)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! 🙂 🍸 (sidecar)
    Mornin’ varsityward! 🙂 |_| (Godfather)
    Mornin’ MaryfromMarin! 😀 |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| (Mortlach)
    Mornin’ Wooly Covfefe! (aka “Wooly Phlox” aka “taqiyyologist”) 🙂 |_| (Roy Rogers)
    Mornin’ Howie! (aka “doodahdaze”) 🙂 |_| (Classic Daiquiri)
    Mornin’ TwoLaine! 🙂 |_| (Gin & Tonic)
    Mornin’ Sha! 🙂 🍸 (Lemon Drop)
    Mornin’ BigMamaTEA! 🙂 🍸 (Harvey Wallbanger)
    Mornin’ cetera5! (aka “Cetera”) 🙂 |_| (Blackberry wine)
    Mornin’ The Tundra PA! 🙂 🍸 (Gentleman Jack Whiskey Sling)
    Mornin’ lovely! 🙂 |_| (Backdraft)
    Mornin’ michellc! 🙂 🍸 (Salty dog)
    Mornin’ auscitizenmom! 🙂 🍸 (Kiss on the Lips)
    Mornin’ Margaret-Ann! 🙂 🍸 (White Russian)
    Mornin’ Auntie Lib! 🙂 🍸 (Tom and Jerry)
    Mornin’ holly100! 🙂 🍸 (Jack & Coke)
    Mornin’ Pam! 🙂 (Not even water)
    Mornin’ Ms.Tee! 🙂 🍸 (Mojito)
    Mornin’ koolkosherkitchen! 🙂 🍸 🍸 (Cuba Libre)
    Mornin’ ImpeachEmAll 🙂 |_| (Flaming Dr. Pepper)
    Mornin’ Monroe! 🙂 |_| (Stinger)
    Mornin’ Les! 🙂 |_| (Rusty Nail)
    Mornin’ shiloh1973! 🙂 |_| (Jack Daniels)
    Mornin’ TexasRanger! 🙂 |_| (Whiskey Smash)
    Mornin’ Ziiggii! 🙂 |_| (B52)
    Mornin’ oldiadguy! 🙂 |_| (Rum & Coke)
    Mornin’ smiley! (“stuck in spambucket”) 🙂 🍸 (Spanish coffee)
    Mornin’ derk! (“Stellars”) 🙂 🍸 (Kamikaze)
    Mornin’ Jacqueline Taylor Robson 🙂 🍸 (Shirley Temple)
    Mornin’ facebkwallflower! 🙂 |_| (Night Train Express)
    Mornin’ Ms. Cindy! (aka “Ms Cynlynn” aka “ms cynlynn”) 🙂 🍸 (1970 ducru beaucaillou)
    Mornin’ sandandsea2015! 🙂 🍸 (1961 Château Montrose)
    Mornin’ amwick! 🙂 🍸 (Blue motorcycle)
    Mornin’ hocuspocus13! 🙂 🍸 (1970 Chateau Latour)
    Mornin’ Sloth1963! 🙂 🍸 (1971 Moulin Touchais)
    Mornin’ MTeresa! (Ex-lurker) 🙂 |_| (Albanian Raki Moskat)
    Mornin’ Rhea Salacia Volans! 🙂 |_| (Hot Buttered Rum)
    Mornin’ joshua! 🙂 |_| (Mudslide)
    Mornin’ John Denney! 🙂 |_| (RumChata)
    Mornin’ litenmaus! 🙂 |_| (Stolichnaya elit, no ice)
    Mornin’ kinthenorthwest! 🙂 🍸 (A Lonely Island Lost in the Middle of a Foggy Sea)
    Mornin’ TwoLaine! 🙂 |_| (Smoking Bishop)
    Mornin’ patternpuzzler! 🙂 🍸 (Old Lady)
    Mornin’ Senatssekretär FREISTAAT DANZIG! 🙂 |_| (Red Russian)
    Mornin’ G-d&Country! 🙂 🍸 (Blind Russian)
    Mornin’ Gary! 🙂 |_| (Yuengling)
    Mornin’ valeriecurren! 🙂 🍸 (Flaming Sambuca)
    Mornin’ Lucille! 🙂 🍸 (Peach Schnapps)
    Mornin’ Lburg! 🙂 🍸 (Lburg lemonade)
    Mornin’ davidhuntpe! 🙂 |_| (Baileys Irish Cream on the rocks)
    Mornin’ skipper1961! 🙂 |_| (Brompton’s Cocktail – No cherry, no umbrella, no plastic monkey)
    Mornin’ mightyconservative! 🙂 |_| (Benjamin Franklin’s clarified milk punch)
    Mornin’ whiners and complainers! 😛 (No drink for you!)
    Mornin’ to people posting that I missed. 😳
    Mornin’ to all you lurkers! 😕

    Also just in case someday; mornin’ to Elvis Chupacabra, F.D.R. in Hell and sundance! :mrgreen:

    Breakfast!

    NEW and IMPROVED breakfast with extra bacon for ZurichMike!

    Cinnamon rolls for coffee!

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    • lovely says:
      November 26, 2017 at 9:10 am

      Good Sunday morning Wee 🙂 !

      With Charlie Manson going on to his just reward Hillary moves up a space on the waiting list.

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      • WeeWeed says:
        November 26, 2017 at 9:13 am

        Mornin’ Lovely!

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      • Menagerie says:
        November 26, 2017 at 9:21 am

        I wonder about her sometimes, seriously. I figure she has to be an atheist, because no one with any grasp at all of Christianity could fail to shudder and huddle in fear at what she has done, and the evil she has participated in.

        Or is it possible that she is truly Satanic?

        I don’t know the answer. I tremble at my own sins is all I can say, Rarely do I feel I compare well in the goodness game, but I would not want to be her, here or eternally.

        Which brings me to the final thought in this little mental adventure I went on. She has nothing in her life I envy. No people, no accomplishments, not who she is or anything she has. I just see her as a very, very evil and broken and bitter and dangerous old woman who is doing her best to break the world.

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        • joshua says:
          November 26, 2017 at 9:24 am

          Hillary’s existence is sad. She is always on her own mind.

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        • auscitizenmom says:
          November 26, 2017 at 9:25 am

          I wonder how many deaths are going to be attributed to her.

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          • Menagerie says:
            November 26, 2017 at 9:30 am

            Officially none. But aside from those she has had killed, I believe she will be one of us held accountable for abortion and the tremendous loss of life in this country through that most vicious form of murder.

            Millions.

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            • auscitizenmom says:
              November 26, 2017 at 10:09 am

              I actually was thinking when she stands before St. Peter at the gate. She can lie then all she wants, but there is an accounting that cannot be denied in God’s book.

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        • lovely says:
          November 26, 2017 at 10:08 am

          I think Hillary is an atheist or a psychopath or both.

          She has a presence with her that is always disturbing, she is a human with not one redeeming quality, it seems that there is nothing reachable or touchable within her by human goodness, I believe she would sacrifice Chelsea and her grandchildren to further her own wealth and/or power. Chelsea lives well because it reflects well on Hillary, that is all.

          Hillary’s essence reminds me of Louis Farrakhan, she like all the notorious evil madmen of history is capable of totally dehumanizing everyone around her. People for her are means.

          I always remember when Rush Limbaugh was a guest at a political event in DC when Bill Clinton was president, all the big wigs were there and everyone was chatting, the atmosphere was light, then Rush said suddenly he felt an actual physical chill in the room and things got quieter he looked around to see what was going on and said that he saw that Hillary had entered the room. Still gives me chills to this day when I remember Rush telling the story.

          I believe there are people who are totally given over to the darkness. They are not irredeemable but they choose to stay in the corner where they have painted themselves.

          I believe as some strive to be Christ’s hands and spirit on earth, others choose to be the devil’s hands and spirit on earth. The devil did not only whisper in the Garden of Eden “eat of this fruit, you will become as gods” he whispers it daily.

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          • Menagerie says:
            November 26, 2017 at 10:50 am

            I agree. My son said he listened to an interview with an experienced exorcist. He said only those who have not totally consented with their free will can be saved.

            Those who willingly gave consent will have to first, freely and of themselves, want to be freed. In other words, begin to repent. And they almost never do.

            I think that she is very evil.

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            • Lucille says:
              November 26, 2017 at 1:18 pm

              This is what Jesus has to say about lying…and there are also verses which speak of the spiritual danger to the liar when he leads others astray. Jesus says he IS Truth. So if we are consistent, unconfessed and unrepentant liars, we are rejecting Christ.

              “If God were your father,” said Jesus, “you would love me, for I came from God and arrived here. I didn’t come on my own. He sent me. Why can’t you understand one word I say? Here’s why: You can’t handle it. You’re from your father, the Devil, and all you want to do is please him. He was a killer from the very start. He couldn’t stand the truth because there wasn’t a shred of truth in him. When the Liar speaks, he makes it up out of his lying nature and fills the world with lies. I arrive on the scene, tell you the plain truth, and you refuse to have a thing to do with me. Can any one of you convict me of a single misleading word, a single sinful act? But if I’m telling the truth, why don’t you believe me? Anyone on God’s side listens to God’s words. This is why you’re not listening—because you’re not on God’s side.”

              John 8:44-47 in The Message version

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    • stella says:
      November 26, 2017 at 10:00 am

      Mornin’ WeeWeed!

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  8. sandandsea2015 says:
    November 26, 2017 at 10:51 am

    Morning Stella and friends! DH and I had a wonderful time at the lake cabin. It was only for a few days, but so nice to get away. I missed chatting with everyone and I hope that you all had a very happy Thanksgiving.

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  9. czarina33 says:
    November 26, 2017 at 11:43 am

    We’re presently having what passes for a pre-purchase discussion here. DIstinction is nothing’s being thrown.
    To those of you who have Kindle devices do you find any advantage over using the Fire over the B&W version? Not having that much experience with virtual books, do you run into that many publications where a color screen works better than a straight b&w one?

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    • stella says:
      November 26, 2017 at 12:02 pm

      If you are just using it for reading, I hear that one of the Paperwhite readers is a good choice. I have a Fire (an old one), and purchased it because it can also play videos, game apps, and has internet access via wireless. You can also use the Kindle app on your phone or computer, and the app is free.

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      • czarowniczy says:
        November 26, 2017 at 3:20 pm

        Multiple issues starting with neither of us use smartphones as neither of us really has a use when you come right down to it. There’s also that period where I worked with/around folks that created and, I’m sure, are still creating ways to turn all of your electronics against you for their purposes.
        Paranoia aside our lack of access, despite over the last ten years the Feds dumping $2-billion into getting us the services, we have no reliable access to hi-speed unlimited internet. Sure we have Verizon access but the plans they provide us are just slightly more expensive than having a platoon of illegals carry the data to us from the nearest cable terminal a bucket full at a time. Then there’s that whole ‘firing up the PC under Windows 10’ thing, watching your ‘metered access’ meter spin down as the endless daily updates are fed in.
        Much easier, as we’re in the Big City at least twice a week, where even public restrooms have internet service we’re denied, to take your books-we-must-have list and download it to a Kindle while enjoying a cup of over-priced, burned-tasting coffee. Kindle for the GGS helps prevent him from accessing porn on his hand-held, he’s getting to that age. Sure he can download D. H. Lawrence, J. D. Salinger and others but the Supreme Court says they have socially redeeming qualities.

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    • nyetneetot says:
      November 26, 2017 at 12:47 pm

      I was reluctant to try E-Books in whatever reader. I finally downloaded the Kindle application on my notebook computer and eventually my smartphone as well.
      Personally, I have found I don’t use either frequently enough to merit the purchase of a separate device. The concept of having a single, lightweight item to travel with and view a large library through is pleasing, but in practice it has been plagued with enough annoyances that I restrict purchases of E-Books to physical books that I own or will buy.
      Most issues fall back to the fact it’s an electrical device. Also, unlike a paper book, the E-Reader gives off an unpleasant acid smell while burring for warmth in emergency situations.

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      • joshua says:
        November 26, 2017 at 12:59 pm

        reading books via kindle on my phone is ok in a serious pinch, like if I am stuck substitute teaching without a class for a period…but it is too small and requires too much electronic page turning to be a serious source of real reading. If you do use it and have a kindle app on your PC, you can synch what you read on the phone easily and stay up with what you read on the phone app.

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        • nyetneetot says:
          November 26, 2017 at 1:31 pm

          I use a news reader on my smartphone daily, but I couldn’t get into E-books even in the 90’s. Of course if there is no way to ever get my hands on an original copy of something I’ll read an electronic copy, but I’ve seen enough altered text to make serious research efforts suspect.

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          • stella says:
            November 26, 2017 at 1:43 pm

            I now prefer e-books because they are easier on my eyes. I get serious eyestrain reading a regular book these days in a very short period of time. My vision becomes quite cloudy. With an e-reader, the text is in higher contrast, and I can enlarge the print whenever I need to.

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            • nyetneetot says:
              November 26, 2017 at 3:58 pm

              I like the photocopy/scan files they have of special collections at some libraries on the internet, but I think I’ll just go with the big square magnifying glass I remember my mother’s parents having.

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        • czarowniczy says:
          November 26, 2017 at 10:32 pm

          GGS was zipping thru the iPad and even rode my Chromebook like he owned it. He apparently has the Google Chrome system in school and has an account in the cloud. He sits down with mine and effortlessly creates a user profile on mine, calls down his school account and just goes to town.
          I was going to tell him about reel-to-reel tape storage, KSR-35 input teletypes and 5-level punch tape but he’d just say: “Oh grandpa, that stuff’s too old to be in a museum!”

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      • czarowniczy says:
        November 26, 2017 at 3:06 pm

        So you don’t recommend it for kindling?

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      • czarowniczy says:
        November 26, 2017 at 10:20 pm

        I’m more interested in ebooks for portable ‘functional’ books. If I’m out working on equipment I’d have the manuel there doing the labor while I read the manual.
        There are just times that I need an electronic book and times I want to feel paper.

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    • joshua says:
      November 26, 2017 at 12:56 pm

      I just keep the app on my laptop, and always download instead of reading off the cloud…too often the internet stream from the cloud goes out or weak in rural areas, so I just read off the laptop….and if my library on kindle is too big, I store the app and file on a memory stick device….What I like about the pc version, and I have a large screen for movies and big spread sheets…is that I can increase the font size big enough to lean back in the chair and read without being hunched over a little device, small screen….reading electronic books can easily give back and eye strain….I like paper books most, but the kindle is fantastic for keeping your place and bringing you back were you were…plus downloading free samples of books I might want to read.

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    • Menagerie says:
      November 26, 2017 at 1:08 pm

      My Fire died, and by then I had an iPad mini. So I put the Kindle app on the iPad, which I like much better than just having the Fire. App makes reading on the iPad pretty much the same as having the Fire, but you have a much more versatile tablet.

      I still have the Kindle Paperwhite, and I use it frequently also. Especially if out in the sun, or traveling it is an excellent reader. If you get eye strain it’s also great. And if you put it on airplane mode after downloading whatever you want, it doesn’t need to be charged for a week or two, depending on use.

      I love the fact that I have all the books I buy available, but not having to find storage for them. Yes, I am a book hoarder. Of course there are still a few I want in hardcover. But I actually don’t like holding a book anymore. They are not as easy to hold, and the devices provide the light you need.

      So my answer is that I want to always have an iPad, or tablet of your preference because the Kindle app can be put on any tablet, and a black and white Kindle like a paperwhite. It will always be an Amazon tablet for me, because I have thousands of books, and I know they will always be there. Also like nyet I have the Kindle app on my phone, and I use it in offices, etc when waiting.

      I also listen to a ton of books and have the Audible app on my phone.

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      • czarina33 says:
        November 26, 2017 at 2:49 pm

        We are considering it for the GGS who is 10. Want something without the distractions of ads, & without internet browsing access. Czar was concerned b&w will be too bland for graphic novels or pics within text which will lose definition. The Fire seems to have web browsing access. We have a hot spot & his mom has wi-if in her house.
        Kindle size seems to be about 7″. There is a kids version with a 2 year replacement warranty and parental controls. All Kindles are amazingly cheap!
        Can you download from anywhere or ar you limited to Amazon purchases (they are promised to be $2.99 or less each). I bought a book & read it on my iPad for about $8 & was quite satisfied. But when I looked into companies which supply “unlimited books” for $9 per month, etc. there was nothing I wanted to read.

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        • Menagerie says:
          November 26, 2017 at 2:57 pm

          With the Kindle app or the Fire tablet you are limited to Amazon, but on an iPad or other tablet you can download apps that give you access to other stores, like Apple iBooks and Barnes and Noble. If it is for the GGS, I agree it has to be color, and a black and white one would be useless for graphic novels.

          Your best bet will likely be the Fire for kids since you want to limit access to the internet. I would not recommend a paperwhite or other B&W model at all for a kid wanting comics.

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        • Menagerie says:
          November 26, 2017 at 3:02 pm

          Set Up Parental Controls on Kindle Fire (2nd Generation) Devices

          With Parental Controls, you can restrict access to Web browsing, shopping from the Amazon Store or Amazon Shop app, or playing Amazon Video and Prime Video. Help for Kindle Fire (2nd Generation), Kindle Fire HD 7″ (2nd Generation), and Kindle Fire HD 8.9″ (2nd Generation).

          Swipe down from the top of the screen to show Quick Settings, and then tap More.
          Tap Parental Controls and then tap On.
          Enter a password, confirm your password, and then tap Finish. Once you’ve set a password, you can restrict one or more of the following:
          Web browsing
          The Email, Contacts, and Calendars apps
          The ability to purchase from the content stores on your device (for example, the Amazon Appstore)
          The ability to play Amazon Video and Prime Video
          Specific content types (for example, Books or Apps)
          Wireless connectivity
          Location-based Services
          Note: Make sure that you record your password. If you forget your Kindle Parental Controls password, you will need to reset your Kindle Fire to factory defaults to restore full access. This will remove all content and account information from your device. After resetting, you can re-register your Kindle Fire, and re-download your content from the Cloud. You can access and download your content from the Cloud at any time.

          When you set up and enable Parental Controls, a lock image of a lock
          icon appears at the top of the screen.

          Tip: You can use Kindle FreeTime to choose books, apps, games, and videos from your collection for your kids to enjoy while restricting access to other content on your device.
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    • Menagerie says:
      November 26, 2017 at 1:17 pm

      If you are going to buy magazines, which I don’t like on a device, even a color one, or cookbooks, I would like the color device like a Fire, or the app on an iPad better.

      If I had a large iPad maybe I would like magazines better, but I have a hard time reading the few I bought on the iPad.

      Have you tried the app on your tablet? In my experience it will be almost identical to having a Fire. I think. I haven’t really checked out a Fire in several years, maybe they are different from what I had, but I wouldn’t think it would be very different from using the app on your tablet.

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    • Jacqueline Taylor Robson says:
      November 26, 2017 at 5:20 pm

      I download a lot of cookbooks, so colour is good to have to see the photos of what the food should look like. I have a 4 yo Kindle Fire that was a Mother’s Day prezzie from my daughter. I think I have about 400 books on the thing, but also play a lot of solitaire! It IS easy on the eyes.

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      • joshua says:
        November 26, 2017 at 7:14 pm

        with windows…I play a lot of solitaire while waiting for the internet connection, or a update to process…..I still have windows seven and hope to take it to the grave with me….no way I want windows 10…heck, I would go back to XP it it would get me out of the constant updates that screw up everything…to say nothing about updates to Firefox and etc…

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  10. Rhea Salacia Volans says:
    November 26, 2017 at 2:33 pm

    stella, I love the picture of all the trees in different colors. Just beautiful.

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  11. stella says:
    November 26, 2017 at 4:51 pm

    Seen on Facebook. Carl Sagan. 1997.

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  13. auscitizenmom says:
    November 26, 2017 at 8:59 pm

    lilbirdee12’s prayer:

    Our Heavenly Father, Your children come to you tonight to ask for healing and peace throughout our country so that we may return to being One Nation Under God. Guide us to be leaders in Your Kingdom, spreading Your Love and Salvation to all. Forgive us our sins and deliver us from evil.

    Lord, we ask for a blanket of protection over all our troops and law enforcement who serve to defend and protect us. Bless our representatives with the strength and wisdom they need to achieve the path You have chosen for us.

    Please place Your Guardian Angels of Protection around Donald Trump and Mike Pence and their families as they seek to lead America back to You.

    Grant us patience, Lord, as the evil ones try to anger us and cause us to fall.
    Spread blessings over Israel and Netanyahu.

    We humbly ask that You please comfort those who are grieving and in pain.
    Thank you Father, for Your Love and the gift of Life.

    And, Lord, if it is your will, we pray that Judge Roy Moore will win his bid for the Senate.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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  14. Wooly Covfefe says:
    November 26, 2017 at 11:00 pm

    Why are the MSM always “surprised”? I don’t get it.

    Do they all wake up with blank memories each morning?

    Look at this headline. http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-mueller-record-20171122-story.html

    When the Muslim Tsarnaev brothers blew up the Boston Marathon, they were surprised. When an atheist Leftist shot up a church in TX, they were surprised. When Weinstein, et al, were found to be complete perverts and abusers, they were surprised. When the markets go up and joblessness goes down under a Republican administration, they are all completely surprised, every time, it’s “unexpectedly”. When there is yet another riot in a Chuck E Cheese, or a coma-inducing beatdown of someone, and the ethnicity of the vast majority of the perps is revealed via pics and video, they are all surprised. WHY? Are they feigning surprise?

    The hell is wrong with these media people, and why do they get more money than me?

    Their initial predictions are ALWAYS wrong, and mine are always right. I wonder WHY?

    Newsworthy events with the MSM is like playing Peek-a-boo with a baby. Always surprised.

    “OMG I can’t believe the bombers were Muslims! Or that the guy running people over on a sidewalk with a truck was, too!” “OMG, I can’t believe the rioters and attackers were all black! That never happens! Because I just woke up this morning knowing nothing at all about anything that ever happened before today!”

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  15. joshua says:
    November 27, 2017 at 3:56 pm

    How the MSM starts their day…..(FBI also)

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