General Discussion, Tuesday, June 20, 2017

Posted on June 20, 2017 by Stella

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  1. Wooly Covfefe says:
    June 20, 2017 at 12:46 am

    Puzz, (and all), if you liked The Neverending Story, especially the book…

    At the Back of the North Wind, by George MacDonald. It’s mesmerizing. Written and published in 1871.

    https://infogalactic.com/info/At_the_Back_of_the_North_Wind

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  2. ImpeachEmAll says:
    June 20, 2017 at 12:57 am

    Just because…

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  3. ImpeachEmAll says:
    June 20, 2017 at 3:03 am

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  4. shiloh1973 says:
    June 20, 2017 at 5:34 am

    I have a thought about Otto Wambier. Could it be that he tried to commit suicide? Watching the tape of him at his sentencing, I get the feeling he was not someone who could deal with what had just happened to him. I am not trying to blame the victim, but the doctors in Ohio could find no signs of abuse. The doctor said that lose of oxygen to his brain was the only thing they could find. I hate that this young man died, but why was he there in the first place? North Korea is not on my vacation destination list. I don’t think any American should be allowed to travel to North Korea! The North Koreans are all to happy to have hostages as bargaining chips.

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    • stella says:
      June 20, 2017 at 7:14 am

      We aren’t allowed to travel to Cuba (or weren’t for years), yet people did it all the time by going there from another country. Perhaps that is what he did.

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    • auscitizenmom says:
      June 20, 2017 at 8:13 am

      Otto’s father said that there is a travel agency in China that advertises that it is safe to travel to NK. He was very clear that this was the only reason they allowed Otto to go. And, I believe it was from either China or somewhere else. It was a group tour. That made it sound safe. Also, yesterday a doctor on FOX said Otto had been given sodium pentothal repeatedly and that can destroy brain tissue. Also, they did speak of physical abuse. I don’t know why the doctors didn’t say anything in the beginning. I think we will find out more in the coming days and weeks. Also, I am not clear on whether Otto took or even touched the poster. Someone said the claim was made up.

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      • czarowniczy says:
        June 20, 2017 at 10:16 am

        Yeah, right, reminds me of the people who get stomped trying to pet the bison in Yellowstone and blame the park as they thought the big wooly cows were tame since it was a National Park.
        Lemme see…considering the NKs murderous actions over just the last ten years the folks thought that what, the entire leadership had started taking Valium the week before?

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    • lovely says:
      June 20, 2017 at 9:17 am

      The objective reason that Otto was in NK?

      His father answered that question. Start at 11:45

      And again at 15:15 “Young Pioneer Tours.”

      Otto went with a Chinese tour group that advertised “No Americans ever get detained from our tours.”

      The subjective reason is he was a young naive young man who believed it would be an adventure and he would be safe.

      My first thought when I heard that Otto was in a coma and had been since April of 2016 was some type of violence from NK thugs, but then the doctors said that no broken bones, trachea damage or other evidence of violence against him could be seen on any test.

      I’m not sure what tests would reveal as to treatment that took place over a year ago. Was food withheld from Otto? Was he drugged? Did he try to commit suicide? How would you tell without a physical marker after over a year? Mr. Warmbier seems to have accepted that we will never know what really happened to Otto and he has all the information and gets results from the doctors.

      From the small video glimpses we have seen into Otto’s life he seems to have been a very gentle soul.

      I don’t know if the Warmer family will have an autopsy done or if they think Otto’s body has suffered enough abuse, if an autopsy is done I don’t know what drugs would leave deposits in the brain or other organs that can be detected or what can be determined from their detection.

      NK brutalized a young American, they labeled him a war criminal as a means of propaganda, how they specifically killed Otto may never be known to his family or the public.

      A very heartbreaking story.

      Should he have gone to NK? Absolutely not.

      That said I have 3 people I love going to Paris and London for two weeks this summer I wish they weren’t I’ve expressed my feeling about the danger of Islam there. They are over 18 and the world is an adventure. So I will hope and pray.

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      • Rhea Salacia Volans says:
        June 20, 2017 at 9:35 am

        I feel bad that this happened and heaven knows that I am angry that NK did this. I hope I get to see that Communist get what’s coming to him for all the lives that he and his family have ruined, both his and his own people’s.

        But I don’t know what else to say. I don’t have any desire to visit China, so I don’t know why he went there. I certainly don’t know why he believed a Chinese tour company that told him that walking into a lion’s den was a safe thing to do.

        There’s a lot here in this story that I don’t understand. However, since Obama is not president, I feel better knowing that if Donald Trump draws a red line for North Korea, it will be done in permanent marker, not erasable ink.

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        • lovely says:
          June 20, 2017 at 9:52 am

          I agree Rhea, I would never choose to go to China, let alone NK, nor Paris or London, or “No Go Zones, for that matter.

          From the dad’s interviews I suspect the family is generally gifted in the IQ department and I suspect before this they were liberals and they are still trying to adjust their world view to the reality of the world. Otto’s dad said if they knew it was unsafe they would not have allowed Otto to go. Otto was 22 when this happened I don’t know any 22 year olds who need or would ask their parents for permission to do anything.

          They seem to be a very gentle close family.

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          • Menagerie says:
            June 20, 2017 at 11:39 am

            I have a son who was in his twenties when he chose to spend two months in Guatemala and Costa Rica. This was maybe fifteen years ago I’m guessing. His only contact with us or anyone was when he could get to an internet cafe and send an email.

            I thought it dangerous and irresponsible but I didn’t try to talk him out of it. His mind was made up, and he was an adult. What I did try very hard to talk him out of was going to Cuba. Thank God he chose not to do that.

            So, I guess my point here is that I think even making the decision to go into North Korea with a group was blindingly stupid, even using a tour group. But I highly respect my son, he usually has a very good head on his shoulders, he’s always been responsible and hard working, and he has been taught to think through his actions and live with the consequences of them. I don’t exactly know what motivates young people to make some dumb decisions that really seem like no brainers to me.

            In hindsight, my son’s trip was a good thing for him, he learned a lot, and I am glad he had that adventure. But I sure am glad he backed out of going to Cuba. That would just have been stupid. I wouldn’t go now, I sure wouldn’t have ventured in during Catro’s heyday. Apparently, young men especially, have an adventure gene I lack.

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            • lovely says:
              June 20, 2017 at 1:58 pm

              Mine are going to Paris and London all prayers are appreciated 🙏🏼. One daughter has been all over the place and the other a few places. Every time I send them off with a wing and a prayer. Their experiences have always been positive.

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              • auscitizenmom says:
                June 20, 2017 at 2:23 pm

                Now that I think about it, mine went to Dubai, Somalia, etc. Not my choice for travel. Knowing he was in that area and chasing down pirates gave this mother some jangled nerves. 🙄

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      • stella says:
        June 20, 2017 at 11:06 am

        Booze, bribes and propaganda: The company that promises ‘safe’ travel in North Korea

        https://www.consumeraffairs.com/news/booze-bribes-and-propaganda-the-company-that-promises-safe-travel-in-north-korea-061917.html

        Even a superficial look at Young Pioneer Tours, the people who brought American college student Otto Warmbier to North Korea, raises serious questions about the practices of the company that advertises “budget travel to destinations your mother would rather you stayed away from.”

        Warmbier was detained while trying to leave North Korea at the end of his trip with Young Pioneer Tours and imprisoned last year. The regime returned Warmbier to his parents last week with severe brain damage.

        On the Young Pioneer Tours website, only a few of the many seemingly innocuous activities that the United States Department of State warns could send tourists to prison in North Korea are explicitly described as illegal. Young Pioneer Tours urges customers not to engage in a political debate with their North Korean tour guides, for example, because “their beliefs are important to them.” It also warns that customers should not take photographs of locals without permission because it may be considered discourteous. But the risk of prison time or hard labor goes unmentioned.

        “Despite what you may hear, North Korea is probably one of the safest places on earth to visit,” the website says. “We have never felt suspicious or threatened at any time.”

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        • lovely says:
          June 20, 2017 at 11:21 am

          “Despite what you may hear, North Korea is probably one of the safest places on earth to visit,” the website says. “We have never felt suspicious or threatened at any time.”

          Too bad it would be so difficult to sue the pants off of this place.

          In January 2016, after the press learned that Warmbier had been arrested, but before he had been formally charged with a crime, Young Pioneer Tours leader Charlotte Guttridge gave an interview that appeared to incriminate the American college student.

          “What happened, happened at the hotel and my belief is that Otto kept it to himself out of hope it might go unnoticed,” Guttridge told Reuters.

          Amazing and disgusting organization.

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      • John Denney says:
        June 20, 2017 at 2:57 pm

        “Deep in his heart, every man longs for a battle to fight, an adventure to live, and a beauty to rescue.”
        ― John Eldredge, Wild at Heart: Discovering the Secret of a Man’s Soul

        A professor of psychology at a major university stated that this book is truly the best insight into men.

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        • lovely says:
          June 20, 2017 at 5:03 pm

          I read an article once written by a friend of JFK Junior and his recklessness. He was born a man without challenges, a political spot was his for the taking, wealth was bestowed on him, women flocked to him, his mom and other family members were devoted to him, he was charming good looking, ect.

          Anyhow his friend said that when a man has nothing to conquer takes reckless chances to prove to himself that he is not just a pampered fluke of the universe. Apparently both John and his dad did many foolish things like taking a small boat out into the open ocean and so on.

          Any new pilot knew that to take up a small plane on the day JFK Jr. took it up was close to a suicide wish.

          That is my long way of saying I agree. We all need to be challenged by something.

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          • stella says:
            June 20, 2017 at 5:54 pm

            I wonder. He also risked the life of his wife and her sister.

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            • lovely says:
              June 20, 2017 at 6:07 pm

              I thought about that but I suspect there is an immortality clause in there somewhere in their thinking. His grandfather got away with all kinds of things as did the other males in his family, uncle Ted killed a woman, rape accusations often swirl around the Kennedy clan, his father was a notorious womanizer but everything was always was cleaned up and went away.

              I think the worst JFK Jr. thought would happen is that he would have a great tale of adventure and heroism to tell to his admirers. I’m not sure “others” ever really figure into this type of thinking.

              I don’t know just an interesting concept to bang about.

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    • auscitizenmom says:
      June 20, 2017 at 8:19 am

      So sad. I was afraid it was something like this.

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    • czarowniczy says:
      June 20, 2017 at 10:26 am

      It’s Hollywood, for crap’s sake, it’s news if the coroner doesn’t find drugs. I’ve heard local LEA doing security for movie shoots in NOLA saying they are to ignore the carry-in drugs that accompany actors on and off the set. I’ve been at security parties on security details where I had to walk away because we’d been told to tutu a blind eye … almost got fired from one detail as the drug use became too blatant that I’d threatened to bust some users. They live by different rules.

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  6. nyetneetot says:
    June 20, 2017 at 7:45 am

    Mornin’ stella! (Smiter of those that ought to be smote) 😎 🍸 (Long Island Iced Tea)
    Mornin’ WeeWeed! (Master Mixologist Extrodinare) 😎 🍸 (Old Fashioned)
    Mornin’ Menagerie! 😎 |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| (Jack Daniels – Single Barrel )
    Mornin’ Ad rem! (Queen Felis catus) 🐱 🍸 (Flaming Lamborghini)
    Mornin’ Sharon! 😎 🍸 🍸 (earthquake)
    Mornin’ ytz4mee! 😎 🍸 (cosmopolitan)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! 🙂 🍸 (white wine and perrier)
    Mornin’ partyzantski! 🙂 |_| (Tom Collins)
    Mornin’ texan59! 🙂 |_| (Black & Tan)
    Mornin’ ZurichMike! 🙂 🍸 (fuzzy navel)
    Mornin’ Col.(R) Ken! (hand salute) 🙂 |_| (Boilermaker)
    Mornin’ Czarina! 🙂 🍸 (Lynchburg Lemonade)
    Mornin’ czarowniczy! 🙂 |_| (Wild Turkey Rare Breed)
    Mornin’ letjusticeprevail2014! 🙂 |_| (Irish Car Bomb)
    Mornin’ Patriot1783-ctdar! (aka “ctdar”) 🙂 🍸 (grasshopper)
    Mornin’ tessa50! 🙂 🍸 (flaming volcano)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! 🙂 🍸 (sidecar)
    Mornin’ varsityward! 🙂 |_| (Godfather)
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    Mornin’ Wooly Covfefe! (aka “Wooly Phlox” aka “taqiyyologist”) 🙂 |_| (Roy Rogers)
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    Mornin’ TwoLaine! 🙂 |_| (Gin & Tonic)
    Mornin’ Sha! 🙂 🍸 (Lemon Drop)
    Mornin’ BigMamaTEA! 🙂 🍸 (Harvey Wallbanger)
    Mornin’ cetera5! (aka “Cetera”) 🙂 |_| (Blackberry wine)
    Mornin’ The Tundra PA! 🙂 🍸 (Baileys Irish Cream on the rocks)
    Mornin’ lovely! 🙂 |_| (Backdraft)
    Mornin’ michellc! 🙂 🍸 (Salty dog)
    Mornin’ auscitizenmom! 🙂 🍸 (Kiss on the Lips)
    Mornin’ Margaret-Ann! 🙂 🍸 (White Russian)
    Mornin’ Auntie Lib! 🙂 🍸 (Tom and Jerry)
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    Mornin’ Pam! 🙂 (Not even water)
    Mornin’ Ms.Tee! 🙂 🍸 (Mojito)
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    Mornin’ ImpeachEmAll 🙂 |_| (Flaming Dr. Pepper)
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    Mornin’ Les! 🙂 |_| (Rusty Nail)
    Mornin’ shiloh1973! 🙂 |_| (Jack Daniels)
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    Mornin’ whiners and complainers! 😛 (No drink for you!)
    Mornin’ to people posting that I missed. 😳
    Mornin’ to all you lurkers! 😕

    Also just in case someday; mornin’ to Elvis Chupacabra, F.D.R. in Hell and sundance! :mrgreen:

    Breakfast!

    NEW and IMPROVED breakfast with extra bacon for ZurichMike!

    Doughnuts for coffee!

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  7. stella says:
    June 20, 2017 at 9:09 am

    Another Left-Wing Science Scandal

    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/06/another-left-wing-science-scandal.php

    The story, as reported by Reuters, is astonishing:

    Previously unreported court documents reviewed by Reuters from an ongoing U.S. legal case against Monsanto show that Blair knew the unpublished research found no evidence of a link between glyphosate and cancer. In a sworn deposition given in March this year in connection with the case, Blair also said the data would have altered IARC’s analysis.

    But the data were not considered by IARC because including them would have made the report too long. Or something. You can read the Reuters story, or even this surprisingly sane Mother Jones article, for the details.

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    • stella says:
      June 20, 2017 at 9:10 am

      *A footnote: roughly half of all of the substances on Earth are carcinogenic. The proportion is the same in natural and man-made substances. The overwhelming majority of carcinogens that humans ingest come from beer, wine, mushrooms and peanuts. This is not because of additives, etc., but rather because those foods are inherently carcinogenic. Any carcinogens that we ingest via additives, preservatives, etc., are at most a footnote. Does that mean that I have stopped drinking beer and wine? Um….no. But I take it easy on the mushrooms.

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  8. auscitizenmom says:
    June 20, 2017 at 9:25 am

    Having trouble with my wordpress email notifications again. This hasn’t happened in a long time. {sigh}

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    • stella says:
      June 20, 2017 at 10:47 am

      It’s WordPress that is the problem. I find that if I refresh or reload the page, then access notifications, it works.

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      • auscitizenmom says:
        June 20, 2017 at 10:59 am

        I have to go into wordpress/notifications/subscriptions and uncheck the box that says block emails. I don’t know if that gets checked when they do an update or what. It used to happen pretty frequently, but hasn’t happened in a long time.

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        • stella says:
          June 20, 2017 at 11:03 am

          Sorry! I misread your original comment. I haven’t had this specific problem.

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          • auscitizenmom says:
            June 20, 2017 at 11:25 am

            I’ve had this problem for a couple of years. I know now to go in and uncheck that box. It is just strange that it gets checked in the first place. 🙄

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            • joshua says:
              June 20, 2017 at 6:05 pm

              when the cust service dude from Bombay calls you about your microsoft comppuutr problem, he will tell you to replace the framizizer module and reboot after you download his billing fix and the related malware attachment….no computer, no problem.

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              • ImpeachEmAll says:
                June 20, 2017 at 6:33 pm

                It is more fun to ask
                when they will return
                the computer you sent
                them for their repairs.

                Crickets and more crickets. 😉

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  9. lovely says:
    June 20, 2017 at 9:25 am

    Life ain’t always beautiful, but it’s a beautiful ride.”__ Gary Allan

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  10. stella says:
    June 20, 2017 at 9:29 am

    Obama to Bush: I Can Release Your Records. Don’t Like It? Sue.

    Nick BaumannJan. 21, 2009

    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2009/01/obama-bush-i-can-release-your-records-dont-it-sue/

    On his first day in office, President Obama put former president Bush on notice. His administration just released an executive order that will make it difficult for Bush to shield his White House records–and those of former Vice President Dick Cheney–from public scrutiny by invoking the doctrine of executive privilege. Shortly after taking office, Bush handed down his own executive order, amending the Presidential Records Act to give current and past presidents, along with their heirs, veto power over the release of presidential records, which are considered the property of the American people.

    “[Obama]’s putting former presidents on notice that if you want to continue a claim of executive privilege that [Obama] doesn’t think is well-placed, you’re going to have to go to court,” says Anne Weismann, the chief counsel for Citizens for Ethics and Responsibility in Washington (CREW).

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    • auscitizenmom says:
      June 20, 2017 at 9:37 am

      Oh, I hope this still stands.

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      • stella says:
        June 20, 2017 at 9:41 am

        They may be able to refuse Judicial Watch, but they won’t be able to refuse Congress, IF Congress subpoenas the records.

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      • stella says:
        June 20, 2017 at 9:51 am

        FTA: The PRA also establishes procedures for Congress, courts, and subsequent administrations to obtain special access to records that remain closed to the public, following a 30‑day notice period to the former and current Presidents.
        Requires that Vice-Presidential records are to be treated in the same way as Presidential records.

        Executive Order 12667 – Issued by President Reagan in January 1989, this executive order established the procedures for NARA and former and incumbent Presidents to implement the PRA.
        Executive Order 13233 – This executive order, issued by President George W. Bush on November 1, 2001, supersedes the previous executive order. The Bush executive order also includes the documents of former Vice Presidents.
        Executive Order 13489 – Issued by President Barack Obama on January 21, 2009, restored the implementation of the PRA of 1978 as practiced under President Reagan’s Executive Order 12667 and revoked President Bush’s Executive Order 13233.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_Records_Act

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    • lovely says:
      June 20, 2017 at 10:03 am

      CONFIRMED: Trump Can Get The Unmasking Records Out of Obama Library

      http://bigleaguepolitics.com/confirmed-trump-can-get-unmasking-records-obama-library/

      § 2205. Exceptions to restricted access

      (2) subject to any rights, defenses, or privileges which the United States or any agency or person may invoke, Presidential records shall be made available–

      (B) to an incumbent President if such records contain information that is needed for the conduct of current business of the incumbent President’s office and that is not otherwise available

      😊

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    • joshua says:
      June 20, 2017 at 6:07 pm

      this little dude NEVER had problems releasing records…and starting up a new one either.
      RCA Victor…45 rpm

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  11. stella says:
    June 20, 2017 at 9:35 am

    Harvard legal journal just shattered arguments for legal abortion

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/harvard-legal-journal-just-shattered-arguments-for-legal-abortion?utm_content=buffer47e99&utm_medium=social&utm_source=+lifesitenews%2Bfacebook&utm_campaign=buffer

    CAMBRIDGE, Massachusetts, June 19, 2017 (LifeSiteNews) – “Unborn babies are constitutional persons,” the Harvard Journal of Law and Public Policy stated in a remarkable release last month.

    The nation’s “leading forum for conservative and libertarian legal scholarship,” according to its website, said in its report that unborn children do in fact fall under the Fourteenth Amendment’s protections.

    The Fourteenth Amendment, adopted in 1868, holds that no state shall “deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

    The question of whether “life” includes unborn life has been the crux of the pro-life debate carried out in the courtrooms for years.

    Harvard Law student Joshua Craddock challenged the premises of both the pro-abortion and pro-life sides of the debate in the article.

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    • joshua says:
      June 20, 2017 at 6:09 pm

      I like the statement…but do not remember when and how the definition of “person” got clarified and agreed upon…thought that a fetus was not considered a “Person” until actual birth and stand along independent personhood….I would love the above to be TRUE…but I did not know that underlying argument got satisfied for all parties.

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  12. lovely says:
    June 20, 2017 at 10:13 am

    Why are so many young people so easily led by the MSM lies?

    Education is a weapon whose effects depend on who holds it in his hands and at who it is aimed.”___Joseph Stalin

    Our schools are producing nonthinking followers.

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  14. WeeWeed says:
    June 20, 2017 at 11:18 am

    A late good mornin’, kids! Have had hell getting into the site today….

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  15. Wooly Covfefe says:
    June 20, 2017 at 12:41 pm

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/06/19/one-of-president-obamas-unaccompanied-alien-children-el-salvador-kills-an-american-muslim-teen/

    Media’s solution to the conundrum they face here, on how to spin it?

    Call the guy White. Grr. MSM delenda est.

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  16. Wooly Covfefe says:
    June 20, 2017 at 12:47 pm

    Respect for Adele. Unannounced, alone, no makeup, she brought cupcakes to firefighters of the Grenfell Tower blaze.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-40339241

    via AT

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/06/cupcakes_from_adele_for_the_grenfell_fightfighters.html

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  17. lovely says:
    June 20, 2017 at 5:34 pm

    The Handel, Ossoff contest reminds me of the recall Walker election where all we heard was that it was going to be an all night nail biter. Walker was declared the winner within an hour of polls closing. I expect to see much the same here.

    Demorats will call it a moral victory despite the millions and millions of dollars they are going to fruitlessly spend. Kind of like Hillary.

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    • jeans2nd says:
      June 20, 2017 at 10:09 pm

      You should read all the “We’re Wymyn We’re Organizing” crap oops sorry stuff on the left side blogs. One wld think they had won the whole country over. Some dame in Kansas went to GA for the Handel-Ossoff shindig. Glad she has money to burn. We sure do not.

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  18. ImpeachEmAll says:
    June 20, 2017 at 8:52 pm

    Clint Eastwood should charge

    for his Internet obituary listings.

    He’d be a billionaire, very fast. 😉

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  19. auscitizenmom says:
    June 20, 2017 at 9:00 pm

    lilbirdee12’s prayer:

    Our Heavenly Father, Your children come to you tonight to ask for healing and peace throughout our country so that we may return to being One Nation Under God. Guide us to be leaders in Your Kingdom, spreading Your Love and Salvation to all. Forgive us our sins and deliver us from evil.

    Lord, we ask for a blanket of protection over all our troops and law enforcement who serve to defend and protect us. Bless our representatives with the strength and wisdom they need to achieve the path You have chosen for us.

    Please place Your Guardian Angels of Protection around Donald Trump and Mike Pence and their families as they seek to lead America back to You.

    Grant us patience, Lord, as the evil ones try to anger us and cause us to fall.
    Spread blessings over Israel and Netanyahu.

    We humbly ask that You please comfort those who are grieving and in pain.
    Thank you Father, for Your Love and the gift of Life.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen

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  20. ImpeachEmAll says:
    June 20, 2017 at 9:15 pm

    Information for 2016 Apple eBooks Antitrust Settlement

    https://www.amazon.com/b/ref=as_li_ss_tl?node=14741166011

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  21. jeans2nd says:
    June 20, 2017 at 10:05 pm

    Tonight we go to London, for all you high-flyin’ pilots.

    The Drone Racing League World Championship Race. Yup. Drone racing.
    There seems to be no limit to the stoopid stuff on which we spend our money. Terrorism? Pfffft.

    $20 mil for this. “In a back room in Alexandra Palace, otherwise known as Ally Pally, an extravagant Victorian-era venue in London that was once home to balls and traveling exhibitions.”
    https://www.theverge.com/2017/6/20/15839700/drone-racing-drl-world-championship-london-sport

    Advisory – extremely boring.
    Hope you all had a great day. PP’s Today in History pieces are much appreciated.

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