General Discussion, Tuesday, May 23, 2017

Desert Storm, F16

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  1. MaryfromMarin says:

    Post for czar–did you see this?

    Lessons From New Orleans

    Lessons From New Orleans

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    • czarowniczy says:

      I’m thinking that the BGI pols are trying their damnedest to polarize the city. The complsint back in the 90s was that race relations were worse than ever before but if uoumlooked st it the new black elite were farming the black population like the white Rats had. Black pols had their own PACs and they fought each other for members, power and money and did their best to drive acracial wedge between black and white Rats, alienating a lot of Republicans and Independents. Post Katrina the influx of illegals created yet another alienated group and a whole new dynamic.
      The mayor had alienated a lot of whites with his mealymouthed anticrime programs, afraid to take the measures needed while the city shivered and the Fircandnpolice departments were hung out to dry. He may be trying to patch over a rift in black/white citizens but some dorky statue removing wasn’t the answer.
      Latest guess here is that he did it to raise his stock with the national Democrats, he’s sorta dead on Louisiana. That may be true as we know how out of touch they are and Mitch’s actions here dhow he’s eminently qualified to join them.
      Some smart candidate’s going to get up on a soap box and tell the black population that the usual Rat ‘leaders’ have been in charge in the city for decades yet their incomes are still abysmal, their children are as ill ecucated as ever, their children’s prospects for jobs are 3rd world and the best the Rats can do to improve that is try to raise the minimum wage and blame white pols when the bill won’t pass. Black life in the city just crawls to a better position while Rat pols wallow in money and blame the prol’s misery on Republican perfidy.
      Let’s see what they do if the inner city folks ever wipe those entitlement scales from their eyes and see what’s really going on. Not holding my breath.

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  2. MaryfromMarin says:

    Directly applicable to continuing atrocities:

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  3. ImpeachEmAll says:

    Cause to pause,
    during breakfast,
    or any other time…

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  4. ImpeachEmAll says:

    Grab some popcorn
    and enjoy the very last
    Greatest Show On Earth…

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  5. nyetneetot says:

    Mornin’ stella! (Smiter of those that ought to be smote) 😎 🍸 (Long Island Iced Tea)
    Mornin’ WeeWeed! (Master Mixologist Extrodinare) 😎 🍸 (Old Fashioned)
    Mornin’ Menagerie! 😎 |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| (Jack Daniels – Single Barrel )
    Mornin’ Ad rem! (Queen Felis catus) 🐱 🍸 (Flaming Lamborghini)
    Mornin’ Sharon! 😎 🍸 🍸 (earthquake)
    Mornin’ ytz4mee! 😎 🍸 (cosmopolitan)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! 🙂 🍸 (white wine and perrier)
    Mornin’ partyzantski! 🙂 |_| (Tom Collins)
    Mornin’ texan59! 🙂 |_| (Black & Tan)
    Mornin’ ZurichMike! 🙂 🍸 (fuzzy navel)
    Mornin’ Col.(R) Ken! (hand salute) 🙂 |_| (Boilermaker)
    Mornin’ Czarina! 🙂 🍸 (Lynchburg Lemonade)
    Mornin’ czarowniczy! 🙂 |_| (Wild Turkey Rare Breed)
    Mornin’ letjusticeprevail2014! 🙂 |_| (Irish Car Bomb)
    Mornin’ Patriot1783-ctdar! (aka “ctdar”) 🙂 🍸 (grasshopper)
    Mornin’ tessa50! 🙂 🍸 (flaming volcano)
    Mornin’ waltzingmtilda! 🙂 🍸 (sidecar)
    Mornin’ varsityward! 🙂 |_| (Godfather)
    Mornin’ MaryfromMarin! 😀 |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| |_| (Mortlach)
    Mornin’ Wooly Phlox! (aka “taqiyyologist”) 🙂 |_| (Roy Rogers)
    Mornin’ Howie! (aka “doodahdaze”) 🙂 |_| (Classic Daiquiri)
    Mornin’ TwoLaine! 🙂 |_| (Gin & Tonic)
    Mornin’ Sha! 🙂 🍸 (Lemon Drop)
    Mornin’ BigMamaTEA! 🙂 🍸 (Harvey Wallbanger)
    Mornin’ cetera5! (aka “Cetera”) 🙂 |_| (Blackberry wine)
    Mornin’ The Tundra PA! 🙂 🍸 (Baileys Irish Cream on the rocks)
    Mornin’ lovely! 🙂 |_| (Backdraft)
    Mornin’ michellc! 🙂 🍸 (Salty dog)
    Mornin’ auscitizenmom! 🙂 🍸 (Kiss on the Lips)
    Mornin’ Margaret-Ann! 🙂 🍸 (White Russian)
    Mornin’ Auntie Lib! 🙂 🍸 (Tom and Jerry)
    Mornin’ holly100! 🙂 🍸 (Jack & Coke)
    Mornin’ Pam! 🙂 (Not even water)
    Mornin’ Ms.Tee! 🙂 🍸 (Mojito)
    Mornin’ koolkosherkitchen! 🙂 🍸 🍸 (Cuba Libre)
    Mornin’ ImpeachEmAll 🙂 |_| (Flaming Dr. Pepper)
    Mornin’ Monroe! 🙂 |_| (Stinger)
    Mornin’ Les! 🙂 |_| (Rusty Nail)
    Mornin’ shiloh1973! 🙂 |_| (Jack Daniels)
    Mornin’ TexasRanger! 🙂 |_| (Whiskey Smash)
    Mornin’ Ziiggii! 🙂 |_| (B52)
    Mornin’ oldiadguy! 🙂 |_| (Rum & Coke)
    Mornin’ smiley! (“stuck in spambucket”) 🙂 🍸 (Spanish coffee)
    Mornin’ derk! (“Stellars”) 🙂 🍸 (Kamikaze)
    Mornin’ Jacqueline Taylor Robson 🙂 🍸 (Shirley Temple)
    Mornin’ facebkwallflower! 🙂 |_| (Night Train Express)
    Mornin’ Ms. Cindy! (aka “Ms Cynlynn” aka “ms cynlynn”) 🙂 🍸 (1970 ducru beaucaillou)
    Mornin’ sandandsea2015! 🙂 🍸 (1961 Château Montrose)
    Mornin’ amwick! 🙂 🍸 (Blue motorcycle)
    Mornin’ hocuspocus13! 🙂 🍸 (1970 Chateau Latour)
    Mornin’ Sloth1963! 🙂 🍸 (1971 Moulin Touchais)
    Mornin’ MTeresa! (Ex-lurker) 🙂 |_| (Albanian Raki Moskat)
    Mornin’ Rhea Salacia Volans! 🙂 |_| (Hot Buttered Rum)
    Mornin’ joshua! 🙂 |_| (Mudslide)
    Mornin’ John Denney! 🙂 |_| (RumChata)
    Mornin’ litenmaus! 🙂 |_| (Stolichnaya elit, no ice)
    Mornin’ kinthenorthwest! 🙂 🍸 (A Lonely Island Lost in the Middle of a Foggy Sea)
    Mornin’ TwoLaine! 🙂 |_| (Smoking Bishop)
    Mornin’ patternpuzzler! 🙂 🍸 (Old Lady)
    Mornin’ Senatssekretär FREISTAAT DANZIG! 🙂 |_| (Red Russian)
    Mornin’ G-d&Country! 🙂 🍸 (Blind Russian)
    Mornin’ whiners and complainers! 😛 (No drink for you!)
    Mornin’ to people posting that I missed. 😳
    Mornin’ to all you lurkers! 😕

    Also just in case someday; mornin’ to Elvis Chupacabra, F.D.R. in Hell and sundance! :mrgreen:

    Breakfast!

    NEW and IMPROVED breakfast with extra bacon for ZurichMike!

    Lemon Scones with Vanilla Lemon Glaze

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  6. lovely says:

    Probably one of the coolest bookcases I have ever seen.

    Good morning people.

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  7. lovely says:

    It breaks my heart that so many people are sacrificing our children to the savages of Islam so that they can feel morally superior to people who want the savages of Islam removed from the face of the earth. Their is no kindness, morality, or goodness in appeasing and coddling evil, those who voted for any immigration friendly politicians can go to hell.

    Those who refuse to call out Islam for the evil that it is are cowards and their souls are saturated with the blood of innocents.

    I wish President Trump would level every mosque in America.

    No more mercy for savages.

    “For children are innocent and love justice, while most of us are wicked and naturally prefer mercy.” ― G.K. Chesterton

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    • It’s tragic and senseless.

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    • auscitizenmom says:

      NO more! 👿

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    • Wooly Phlox says:

      The proper response should be candlelight vigils and calls for unity.

      Nobody will expect that tactic! Victory is assured!

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      • lovely says:

        Wooly what good would candle light vigils and calls for unity be without changing our avatars to the flag of England?

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      • czarowniczy says:

        I prefer something a little more active. There are people who go out and give wild bears hugs but their numbers decline in direct proportion to the number of well fed bears.
        We no lobger take premptive measures to protect ourselves, our families, our neighbors, we’re expected to bear the casualties while gutless appeasers try to convince these jackals and hyenas to become lapdogs.
        Back to one of my major credos: You can’t make enemies love you but you sure as hell can make them fear you.

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        • Wooly Phlox says:

          Re: your credo

          And, thus, we won WW2 using only a fat man and a little boy. We pacified the world with two bombs, and all the munitions and materiel suppliers didn’t have anything to do any more.

          Then we stopped wanting to win any wars at all, and so we didn’t. Instead we just kept pretending to fight them, and at great cost and mostly no gain.

          Even fake wars, like “on poverty”, or “on drugs”. Or the “cold war” with the former and soon-to-be U.S.S.R.

          I’m trying to imagine a board game, or a tabletop game of some sort, where the goal of one party is to keep playing and never win, but never lose, and the goal of the other party is to win. Like Chess, only the sides have different goals. How would you redesign the rules of chess to make it asymmetrical? Flip a coin. Heads: you’re the player that is required to NEVER attempt to checkmate and wants to just keep playing, and on the obverse, you’re the player that relentlessly pursues a checkmate.

          Which side would you choose, if your livelihood or existence depended on either keeping the game going or ENDING it.? That depends on whether you value money or your whole nation’s existence more.

          It’s a sick, strange “nation” we have here. It’s not a nation. It’s a place — with a powerful government and media. And a complacent, ignorant, stupid populace.

          It’s not the oft-conspiracized “military-industrial complex”.

          It’s the “military-industrial-deep state-media-government complex”.

          /rant off

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          • czarowniczy says:

            The horrors of the death and destruction of WWII, especially with so many alive at the end of the war with a living memory of WWI, spawned a powerful peace-at-any-cost movement. It’s survived to today, to me with no working knowledge of the fact appeasement and cowardly politics caused the disasters.
            We’ve seen centuries of Islamic barbarism (pun unintentional…yes, unintentional) that have been met with pinpricks if any action at all, and it’s caused the animal factors to become even more animal. Tonthose who say that we’ve been bombing them for nearly 16 years and it hasn’t solved the problem I say that then we haven’t been bombing them long enough.

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            • Wooly Phlox says:

              Carving up the Ottoman Empire and making all these new states fight amongst themselves wasn’t a pinprick. It was genius.

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              • czarowniczy says:

                It couldn’t be left intact, it was responsible for more religion-based deaths than Hitler was. The allies left them pretty well without adult supervision and instead of one center of sectarian violence we ended up with the mess we have now.

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        • lovely says:

          Timothy Treadwell “Why can’t we all just be one with the bears?”

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    • facebkwallflower says:

      I still cannot wrap my head around children going to an Ariana concert!

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      • lovely says:

        I didn’t really know who she was before the attack. Another arrogant self righteous entertainer who thinks that America is the problem and the savages of Islam just need to be snuggled.

        I must refrain from commenting further.

        I have never listened to her songs but I understand that they are filthy.

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        • Wooly Phlox says:

          My guess? Another in a decades-long list of MKUltra subjects, who are now being used to program others.

          The Vigilant Citizen – Symbols Rule the World

          If it ever gets out, widely, which is unlikely, the Amish will have been proven prescient.

          It’s why I don’t partake in any pop culture. TV, Radio, and movies get my big “international peace sign”, with both hands. Nope. I’ve had enough of their abject, near-open Satanism.

          Amazing that the Satanist performer/cult-leader Marilyn Manson once said, and made a line of T-shirts that said “I wasn’t born with enough middle fingers.” was actually right. Stopped clock was right, at that moment in time.

          They are worse than Islam itself. A scourge, a pox on humanity is what Pop culture is.

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        • patternpuzzler says:

          Filthy? This is the same Ariana Grande that licked donuts she didn’t buy at a donut shop. After her apology, I believe the “investigation” was dropped.

          “Videos surfaced on TMZ Wednesday of Ariana Grande, showing her visiting Wolfee Donuts in California, licking a doughnut on a counter and declaring “I hate America.”
          http://www.today.com/popculture/ariana-grande-apologizes-doughnut-lick-i-hate-america-t31006

          Here’s her statement – on Twitter, of course. Rolf.

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        • tessa50 says:

          Her songs may be filthy, I’m not sure. I saw this one quite a while back and both of these girls can sing. I just don’t know what happens to the rich and famous but they definitely change. If you listen to their earlier stuff, you would probably like them. Miley Cyrus went whacko. IDK why, and IDK about ariana at all. In this vidoe IDK why they are dressed as they are, I just like the song and singing.

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          • lovely says:

            Good to see you Tessa, 🙂 .

            Ariana does have a pretty voice,(listened to a bit of your video) I’m just not that interested in figuring out if I like her music or not, she seems to be a scumbag from what I have read. She hates America. She is young and dumb, rich and famous, never a good combination for the mind or soul.

            I already listen to enough artist who I think are mental midgets and anti-American so Ariana can go jump off a short pier as far as I’m concerned.

            Miley I think is talentless and royally screwed up in her head. JMO.

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            • tessa50 says:

              Hi Lovely. I wasn’t meaning to get you to listen to their music, sorry it came across that way. Just wanted to show they both have talent. I don’t know much at all about Ariana, but Cyrus I have listened to. Specifically the backyard sessions. She has an amazing voice and she was so different from what she is now. I just wonder and always will, what happened to her that made her change so radically. To me, is just a shame.

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              • lovely says:

                My apologies Tessa, all is good I didn’t think that you were trying to get me to listen to their music I was just saying I ain’t going to do it because its like reading a mediocre for bad book, sure I could but why would I.

                I did listen to a small bit of the video you posted and I think Ariana has a beautiful voice, I remember Miley’s “It’s about the climb” and thought it was terrific showcasing of her voice and a very pretty song.

                With Miley (like with many singers) she relies on lots of technology to turn her voice into a pleasantry. From the bit of the clip I watched Ariana has a beautiful voice. She could sing with just the mic and no corrective measures and be nice to listen to.

                I feel sorry for Miley, I think she would have been a different person if not for her fame and fortune at such a young age, (I have a daughter who was the right age for Hanna Montana) Miley said kids at school thought she was a weirdo and of course Disney tried to create her in its own image. Her parents seemed to be uninvolved or unconcerned about how a small child would adjust to being in the spotlight and never having to “hope” to get anything but always knowing she could have materially whatever she wanted.

                Who knows why she went so far off the rails, her industry is full of perverts, did she have a protector? I don’t know.

                Something nice I heard and then saw about Miley is that she was on a show called The Voice, a young more conservative contestant was choosing between her and another person to be their coach.

                Anyhow he was looking at Miley like she was a nut and she caught that he was assessing her and not in a good way. She didn’t get offended she just stopped and said, “Does this scare you?” She grabbed her clown like outfit and tugged on it with both her hands.

                Miley then said “This” shaking her clothes “This isn’t me, I’m a real person, this is just my schtick, I can help you.”

                My friend told me about it because she knew I had a former Hanna Montana fan and she knew that I thought Miley had become a disgusting slob.

                I was pleased to see Miley do this and that she still has some hope of shaking off her alter ego before it consumes her and there is no line between Miley and the whorish caricature she portrays herself as.

                Sorry for the long response!

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                • Wooly Phlox says:

                  Excellent response, Lovely. Actual conversations should consist of more than 140 characters.

                  We shouldn’t have to, though we do, apologize for long rants. They’re not rants.

                  They’re conversation.

                  I believe what the Vigilant Citizen website says, implies, and proves — because I’ve witnessed it since MTV first aired, and before. And in my own life. There is a lot — a WHOLE LOT — of symbolism that is recurrent in this cult.

                  One of many examples: look for one eye closed or covered in these pop icons’ photos and videos. Miley even got TV show hosts to do her version of this symbol, winking, and sticking her tongue out to the side. One eye open, one eye closed.

                  Sounds crazy, doesn’t it? That’s because it is. It’s true, though.

                  These TV kids-cum-superstars (no pun intended) were programmed to be programmers of other young minds. And used all along the way by sickos. Before little Michael Jackson was passed around Hollywood, Shirley Temple and the Little Rascals were.

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      • Wooly Phlox says:

        In decadent decades past, children went to Beyonce concerts, and before that Marilyn Manson concerts, and before that, Madonna concerts. All spectacles of Satan.

        I don’t use that phrase lightly. Remember this gem? Three decades ago it was transgressive and satanist. They get better at it each iteration.

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  8. WeeWeed says:

    Mornin’ kids!

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  9. lovely says:

    Brennan said he saw contacts between Team Trump and Russia, but saw no evidence of collusion between anyone on Team Trump and Russian state operatives, but Brennan was concerned because Russia was trying to corrode our democracy during the 2016 election, (when has Russia ever not been trying to corrode democracy?) but what the heck evidence of a blood link between Vladimir and POTUS may still show up 🙄.

    Brennan “sharing information with Russians is not unprecedented” the real problems is the leaks and Russia will use that animosity and those leaks to exploit the United States.

    Short story Brennan saw absolutely no collusion between Team Trump and Russian State operatives. But he sure as heck wishes he could find something and won’t stop trying. Gowdy is pissing Brenna off and destabilizing him. Good on you Gowdy. Brennan is under oath and angry 👍🏽.

    Good thing Stella’s is a no cursing zone.

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    • lovely says:

      PS I will buy everyone a round of top shelf whiskey if Brennan says “Because Putin hates Clinton!!!”

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      • lovely says:

        Tom Rooney (R) asks the question “Why would the Russians want Trump to win rather than Clinton?”

        Brennan Well, there is a bit of an animus between Putin and Hillary Clinton and there is a history of animus between Putin and the Clintons. If Hillary had been elected then Russia would have further tried to denigrate and hurt her” 😜

        Close but no cigar Brennan.

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        • patternpuzzler says:

          Oh noooooooooooooo!!! Not poor Hillary!

          Finished up some business here at home and looking forward to seeing the rest of his “testimony”. Hope it’s not all parseltongue.

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    • lovely says:

      If you have any doubt as to what an efficient, effective and spectacular liar and political beast that James Comey is, just watch 5 minutes of the House Intelligence Hearing where James Brennan is testifying.

      Brennan should just say “I can’t answer that until I coordinate with Mueller.”

      Oh wait James Comey already did that 😎.

      James Brennan you are no James Comey. Get out while the getting is good!

      Ha ha! The feckless ignoramus, Andre Carson (D) Indiana just asked Brenna if Putin wants to see democracy thrive. 😂

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    • czarowniczy says:

      &$@#%€*# Democrats have been trying to corrode our democracy for decades.

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      • lovely says:

        Ha!

        Some democrat bloke just asked a pandering questions and Brennan answered with so much BS I was looking for the rodeo clowns, once Brennan was done with his line of crap the democratic questioner said “Because you love your country sir?”

        A weepy toned and eyed Brennan said That’s the cliff notes version.”

        Such frauds.

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  10. patternpuzzler says:

    Another slow day. Events today are just more of a newsy tenor, but the bonus video is interesting, as is the Auto-Lite Strike in 1934 – your mileage may vary!

    This day in Mostly American History, May 23:
    1785 Benjamin Franklin announces his invention of bifocals
    1788 South Carolina becomes 8th state to ratify US constitution
    1867 Jesse James’ gang robs bank in Richmond, Missouri (2 die, $4,000 taken)
    1873 Postal cards sold in San Francisco for first time
    1887 First transcontinental train arrives in Vancouver, BC
    1903 First automobile trip across US from San Francisco to NY, ended April 1
    1903 First direct primary election law in US adopted, by Wisconsin
    1911 NY Public Library building at 5th Avenue dedicated by President Taft
    1921 “Shuffle Along” first black musical comedy, opens in NYC (A “reclamation” version made its debut in 2016 on Broadway as well.)

    1922 Walt Disney incorporates his first film company “Laugh-O-Gram Films”
    1934 The Auto-Lite Strike culminates in the “Battle of Toledo”, a five-day melée between 1,300 troops of the Ohio National Guard and 6,000 picketers. Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auto-Lite_strike

    1939 Submarine USS Squalus sinks in the Gulf of Maine, drowning 26, 33 remaining crew rescued from a depth of 243 ft (74 m) by divers using newly developed heliox air systems (divers later awarded the Medal of Honor)

    1940 First great dogfight between Spitfires and Luftwaffe*
    1949 Federal Republic of [West] Germany created out of the American, British and French occupation zones

    1951 Seventeen Point Agreement for the Peaceful Liberation of Tibet signed in Beijing, formally establishes Chinese sovereignty over Tibet

    1956 World Trade Center dedicated in Ferry Building, San Francisco
    1958 US schools first use Cliff’s Notes
    1958 Mao Zedong starts “Great leap forward” movement in China
    1960 “Finian’s Rainbow” opens at 46th St Theater NYC for 12 performances
    1960 “Got A Girl” by The Four Preps hits #24
    1960 Israel announces capture of Nazi Adolf Eichmann in Argentina
    1962 Scott Carpenter orbits Earth 3 times in US Aurora 7
    1966 The Beatles release “Paperback Writer”
    1968 Beatles open 2nd Apple Boutique at 161 New Kings Road, London
    1969 BBC orders 13 episodes of Monty Python’s Flying Circus
    1969 The Who release rock opera “Tommy”
    1970 Grateful Dead’s first performance outside US (England)
    1971 Rock group Iron Butterfly disbands
    1977 US Supreme Court refuses to hear appeals of Watergate wrong doers H. R. Haldeman, John Ehrlichman & John Mitchell

    1979 Rocker Tom Petty files Chapter 11 bankruptcy
    1984 “Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom”, 2nd in the film series, directed by Stephen Spielberg, produced by George Lucas and starring Harrison Ford, opens in the US

    1988 Maryland stops sale of cheap pistols on Jan 1, 1990
    1990 Cost of rescuing savings & loan failures is put at up to $130 billion
    1991 US Supreme Court bars subsidized clinics from discussing abortion
    1992 US President George H. W. Bush orders Coast Guard to intercept boats with Haitian refugees

    1994 “Star Trek The Next Generation” finale airs this week in syndication
    1994 47th Cannes Film Festival: “Pulp Fiction” directed by Quentin Tarantino wins
    2016 Chinese archaeologists announce findings of earliest use of barley in China to make beer, Shaanxi province 3400-2900 BC

    *Bonus Video: The Spitfire and the Luftwaffe fought for the supremacy of the skies in the Battle of Britain in 1940. This is actual war footage of some of those air fights, taken from a Spitfire-mounted camera:

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    • czarowniczy says:

      Hawker Hurricanes did the bulk of the fighting until after the Battle of Britain then the more air combat worthy Spitfire variants took over. There were Spitfires in the air but not nearly as many as Hurricanes, Spitfires got the better PR.

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      • patternpuzzler says:

        Thanks for setting the record straight, czar.

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        • czarowniczy says:

          Not setting it straight as much as cutting thru a bit of cinematic rewriting of history. The Hurricane was an older plane thst was available in numbers to fight the Luftwaffe early on. There were problems before the Battle of Britain getting Spitfire planes built in quantity and, to some extent, they appeared to be flying in greater numbers as the Hurricanes were a shade less capable than their Luftwaffe counterparts and suffered greater casualties. Those early Brit pilots flying the Hurricanes knew they had a great chance of dieing when they went up but did it anyway.

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          • Wooly Phlox says:

            Czar, do you pilot aircraft?

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            • czarowniczy says:

              Nope, wish I did but they cost a bit more per hour to fly than I make.

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              • Wooly Phlox says:

                I took lessons my senior year in HS, and it was great fun. Too much money to afford the hours required to get a license. i wish I had. Flying, taking off, landing — all great fun.

                There was a game, a long time ago, called “Microsoft Flight Combat Simulator”, and it had every plane in history in it, and was as realistic as their Flight Sim flagship program.

                We had dual sticks and a keyboard, but they have setups with multiple small screens for all your instruments, too. I never liked jet combat sims. I realize that they are far more effective tactically,but the WW1 and WW2 era planes are far more fun to fly. Maybe because you don’t have to think as fast.

                I landed on Plum Island in MA in a four-seater, wing-over. The teacher had control of the rudders, though.

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                • czarowniczy says:

                  Yeah, even remember looking at the very expensive sets of full aircraft controls thst replaced the simple joystick. I was really in love with helicopters, got assigned moons ago as a door gunner, love the feeling of flying in an eggbeater. With a Huey costing some 600 to 800 per hour to fly it’s gonna be a solid lottery win before I get my own.

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                  • Col.(R) Ken says:

                    Oh those “egg beaters”… did 100 or so hours in those, then Hawks, then I fell in love with the Apache! Read, talked too contractors, maintainers……. now, I don’t have the focus skills needed……..so I’ll sit by my fire side think of times past……….

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    • Much thanks to Benjamin Franklin… I am reading these interesting historical facts because of him!!!! Also, Cliff Notes may have been a help to some, but my teachers wrote their tests so that we weren’t able to get away with using them… you know… back in the day when teachers actually taught. 😉

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    • Wooly Phlox says:

      1785, thank God he didn’t invent the coating on my last three pairs of bifocals.

      1867, the James Gang stole, adjusted for inflation, $76,416 and fiddy cents *(2014 dollars). Quite a haul.

      1873, with postcards that anyone can read, instead of in an envelope, Facebook is invented.

      1939, Awesome story. Truly.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lost_United_States_submarines

      They never showed us this list when I was in. They told us that only the Scorpion and the Thresher were lost. Those were just the nuclear ones.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sunken_nuclear_submarines

      Deep water is no joke. (InfoGalactic is down right now, hence the wiki link.)

      —-

      I just wish we used these awesome devices like submarines to WIN. Instead of just to keep building more of them and modding them forever and using them and getting good-hearted, naive people who join, killed. It’s a sick system.

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      • Wooly Phlox says:

        How many SSBNs do we have?

        We could make peace in one day. Peace on Earth.

        MAD doesn’t apply any more, because the three sane nations on the planet, Russia, China and the USA, are all threatened externally by ACTUAL barbarians.

        I want to see POTUS walking, in slow motion, away from an exploding in great cinematic fire, alongside Putin, Kabaa, with aviator shades and coolness.

        You know what sets China, Russia, and Japan apart from us, though?

        They are decidedly, as is their right, NOT multicultural. They know that idiot philosophy leads to nail bombs. Very few Islamic terror attacks in those self-determining nations. Why? BECAUSE THEY DON’T LET THOSE PEOPLE IN.

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      • patternpuzzler says:

        You know, every person I’ve talked to with glasses has had problems with their lenses. My brother went through three pair of glasses before they finally got them right – kind of; he now is down to two reliable pair he can use – each for a different thing. Sorry they’ve been an issue for you, too!

        Tara Ross posted an article today on the Scorpion, too. Guys have to be a little crazy to do sub tours! So I guess this is the time to ask you if you were a bubblehead when you served?

        Men as fodder for the Military-Industrial Complex. Eisenhower must be screaming that we’re fools and he tried to warn us. I have to agree. A good old fashioned war to get something accomplished (besides making fat cats richer) would be nice for a change.

        I’ll look up the InfoGalactic link. Didn’t really understand, when you mentioned it before, the aspect of the heavy and biased editing on Wikipedia. Will for sure be giving InfoGalactic a try, Wooly. Thank you.

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    • lovely says:

      1911 NY Public Library building at 5th Avenue dedicated by President Taft

      5/23/17 Local library calls Lovely to ask her where their book is.

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  11. ImpeachEmAll says:

    Time of the season…

    America’s Cup 2017

    https://www.americascup.com/en/bermuda.html

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  12. stella says:

    From cousin Caralee on Facebook:

    Logan is having his hearing checked. The kids and I are in the waiting room. Riley noticed a NO WEAPONS sign with a picture of a gun. She says to me “Mommy do NOT use your gun in here, the sign says it” .
    My reply, “I’ll try not to”.

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    • shiloh1973 says:

      Well, I have to tell you, I am ready to use mine. I am now receiving Social Security. I changed my income status on Washington’s Exchange. I am no longer eligible for Medicaid, which is fine with me. I selected a healthplan that I can afford and is available at my local clinic and hospital. It was confirmed and I was given an ID number. I tried to go to the company and pay for it and could not find a way to make the payment. I called the company and after playing press this number 6 times, I was told that a human was not available to take my call!!!!! So, I have no idea if I have health insurance or not and I have a doctor’s appointment this Friday! Please dear GOD, save us from Government Health Care!! I am about to say heck with all of it and roll the dice on health care. I am 62 years old and have lead a very good life. Whatever comes now is in GOD’s hands.
      I grew up in the day of Doctors who actually gave a crap about their patients and still made house calls. Now it is all about the money and what insurance you have. I wait a month to see my doctor and get to spend a whopping 10 minutes with him. All he tries to do is get me to take more tests and shove pills at me. He said I might be pre diabetic (even though my blood readings have not changed in 10 years). I asked him if that was like being pre pregnant or pre dead? Got a pill for that?
      Sorry for the rant. I am in a really bad mood and am not sure why. I see the carnage in the UK and I really want to kick the crap out of someone. The World needs to wake the heck up and seek and destroy our enemies!!!!

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      • auscitizenmom says:

        Good rant. 🙂

        Liked by 6 people

        • shiloh1973 says:

          I am just so tired of getting the “runaround” I am a Veteran and I cannot get an answer from the VA to tell me if I am eligible for benefits or not. I served during the Viet Nam Era. I have sent more forms than I ever have in my life and after 3 years have not gotten any kind of an answer. The thing is, I would not be upset in any way if they said no. I do not want benefits that do not belong to me. I served because I wanted to, not to get something from it.

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      • patternpuzzler says:

        Shiloh, if you call the doctor’s office their billing department will for sure have the phone number to a breathing voice at your insurance company. I’m on disability and frequently have to resort to that route to protect myself. You might want to make sure you do it with any procedure, just to be on the safe side and save yourself a possible headache.

        Yes, God help us all if they are successful foisting Government Health Care on us!

        There is a lovely lady across the hall from me who is 87 and had breast cancer several many years ago. About three weeks ago she went in for a cough and first was a pet/cat/mri (I can’t keep ’em straight) that showed she had a lot of small tumors in her lungS, and one tumor that is 1.5″. A slip of the tongue by her nephew told her she had stage 4 cancer after her first test – and she can’t get a straight, direct answer out of anyone about her diagnosis; they’re treating her like a child, but I digress. She’s made her peace and accepts that she is at the end of her life. All she wants is to die with a little dignity and quality of life. I have come to care for her like the mother I didn’t get, and this whole thing has me very, very angry. Not to the point I rave; I’m just quietly supportive and make as sure as I can her last days are full of hugs and laughter.

        They did a second test that involved something being put down her throat when she was awake and she said it was horribly painful. This was to confirm what they’d seen on the scan.

        Now this poor woman is going to the University Hospital where the doctors will be going to her lung through her back – a surgery for Lord only knows what. They’re telling her this won’t be too painful, either. (Lying bastages!) I fear that her recuperation will be at the local nursing home which is a nightmare. She will die there, I have no doubt.

        All of this because the doctors see dollar signs where her eyes are. I’m willing to bet the two visits to University Hospital and the tests they have run here are probably worth tens of thousands of dollars, all said.

        All this to say you’re certainly right in your rant – It’s all about the Benjamins any more.

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      • jeans2nd says:

        shiloh – pls do not give up. You are eligible. Period. There is help available for veterans, especially Viet Vets. If your VVA will not help, we could sic my guys on ’em. VVA, not VA.
        https://vva.org/what-we-do/veteran-services/service-officer-locator/?gmw_post=service-officers&gmw_address%5B%5D=&gmw_state=Washington&gmw_distance=100&gmw_units=imperial&gmw_form=6&gmw_per_page=-1&gmw_lat=&gmw_lng=&gmw_px=pt&action=gmw_post

        http://vva.org/

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  13. stella says:

    What happens when you give a horse a squeaky chicken toy?

    Liked by 7 people

  14. czarowniczy says:

    Mayor of London expected to institute 3-day waiting period before residents are allowed to buy high explosives. Meanwhile ISIS claims credit for sewerage backup in Chelsea…the borough, not the irritating ex-First Daughter….though…

    Liked by 4 people

    • patternpuzzler says:

      This would be the same mayor of London who declared last year that living in the largest urban areas, the residents should expect attacks. What an empty mandate re: the three days (cooling off period?) is – ludicrous – the terrorists aren’t using high explosives that need to be purchased (that I know of)… sheesh…

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  15. lovely says:

    Eric Swalwell (D) California asks Brennan asks Brennan “Isn’t it just terrible that there is a picture of President Trump laughing with Sergey Lavrov and Sergey Kislyak? Isn’t that inappropriate?

    😎

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    • czarowniczy says:

      Dear Eric, they were all laughing at the irony of decades of the Democrats kissing Russian ass during the Cold War only to turn their backs on Russia when it became free…ish. Putin laughing with Obama was when Putin was telling him “You know Trump’s going to win, don’t you?”.

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  16. jeans2nd says:

    Might we be seeing another vision of our Border Wall? Informed insiders say…

    “The incomplete nature of the data speaks to the US immigration system’s continued difficulties in tracking who leaves the country. Homeland Security officials have been trying to improve their system for years, with very little to show for their efforts. The agency is only now getting around to setting up a system to identify departing travelers with biometric technology, more than 10 years after Congress mandated it. And the funding assigned to the technology—$100 million a year—is tiny compared to what president Donald Trump wants to spend on his border wall project.”
    https://qz.com/988951/the-us-is-finally-telling-the-public-who-overstays-their-visas-the-most-and-its-not-mexicans/

    The data to which they refer is Homeland Security’s Fiscal Year 2016 Entry/Exit Overstay Report

    Click to access Entry%20and%20Exit%20Overstay%20Report%2C%20Fiscal%20Year%202016.pdf

    Excellent article (the Quartz article). The entire article indicates more tech folks are on our side, methinks.
    Thx 4 indulging my fantasies. One can dream…

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  17. auscitizenmom says:

    lilbirdee12’s prayer:

    Our Heavenly Father, Your children come to you tonight to ask for healing and peace throughout our country so that we may return to being One Nation Under God. Guide us to be leaders in Your Kingdom, spreading Your Love and Salvation to all. Forgive us our sins and deliver us from evil.

    Lord, we ask for a blanket of protection over all our troops and law enforcement who serve to defend and protect us. Bless our representatives with the strength and wisdom they need to achieve the path You have chosen for us.

    Please place Your Guardian Angels of Protection around Donald Trump and Mike Pence and their families as they seek to lead America back to You.

    Grant us patience, Lord, as the evil ones try to anger us and cause us to fall.
    Spread blessings over Israel and Netanyahu.

    We humbly ask that You please comfort those who are grieving and in pain.
    Thank you Father, for Your Love and the gift of Life.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen

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  18. auscitizenmom says:

    Oh, dear, I never get sick…………..but, I think I’m getting sick. I ran some errands earlier and didn’t feel real good when I got home. And, I was cold. It’s about 100* out, so the air conditioner is running like crazy. I figure that was why I was cold. Nope, now I have a temp of 101.2*. I think I forgot how to be sick. 😦 But, I might remember how to whine about it. 🙂

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  19. Wooly Phlox says:

    It Memoriam, despite my feelings about the late Chris Cornell, by my favorite artist:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4j1UrgfY74 let it autoplay afterward.

    Walk off the Earth is my favorite band. Beard guy never says a word.

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  20. Wooly Phlox says:

    Nobody better.

    Liked by 1 person

  21. shiloh1973 says:

    I don’t normally have bad mood days, but today is an exception. My heart aches from the crap that our President has to endure, my computer is screwing with me, Hannity just caved to his masters on the Seth Rich investigation, and my soul has a very uneasy feeling. I found this picture and it lifted me up.

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    • lovely says:

      All I can say is God have mercy on the family of Seth whether they have been threatened, bought off or are blinded by grief and sincerely believe what they are saying, their words sound scripted.

      Their son’s brutal murder is unsolved, and there is suggestive evidence to support the theory that the people he worked for betrayed him. There is circumstantial evidence that Seth was the leaker from whom Wikileaks received Hillary Clinton emails and yet instead of saying “We will leave no stone unturned the Seth family is attacking people who say, it is odd to shoot a man in the back and just run away, maybe we should delve into this a little deeper?

      This does not sound like the angst of grieving parents looking to solve and avenge their son’s death it sounds like political garbage that was written by Hillary Clinton.

      The Rich family blasted media promoting the theory, saying to Business Insider on May 16 “it’s sad but unsurprising that a group of media outlets who have repeatedly lied to the American people would try and manipulate the legacy of a murder victim in order to forward their own political agenda… I think there is a special place in hell for people like that.”

      A special place in hell? Interesting choice of words.

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  22. shiloh1973 says:

    I also need to hear this song.

    Liked by 1 person

  23. lovely says:

    BOOM!! Kim Dot.Com DROPS BOMBSHELL! — SETH RICH LEAKED DNC EMAILS TO WIKILEAKS

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/05/breaking-internet-hacker-kim-dot-com-releases-documents-seth-rich-leaked-podesta-wikileaks-emails/

    I KNOW THAT SETCH RICH WAS INVOLVED IN THE DNC LEAK.

    I know this because in late 2014 a person contacted me about helping me to start a branch of the Internet Party in the United States. He called himself Panda. I now know that Panda was Seth Rich.

    Panda advised me that he was working on voter analytics tools and other technologies that the Internet Party may find helpful.

    I communicated with Panda on a number of topics including corruption and the influence of corporate money in politics.

    “He wanted to change that from the inside.”
    I was referring to what I knew when I did an interview with Bloomberg in New Zealand in May 2015. In that interview I hinted that Julian Assange and Wikileaks would release information about Hillary Clinton in the upcoming election.

    The Rich family has reached out to me to ask that I be sensitive to their loss in my public comments. That request is entirely reasonable.

    I have consulted with my lawyers. I accept that my full statement should be provided to the authorities and I am prepared to do that so that there can be a full investigation. My lawyers will speak with the authorities regarding the proper process.

    If my evidence is required to be given in the United States I would be prepared to do so if appropriate arrangements are made. I would need a guarantee from Special Counsel Mueller, on behalf of the United States, of safe passage from New Zealand to the United States and back. In the coming days we will be communicating with the appropriate authorities to make the necessary arrangements. In the meantime, I will make no further comment.

    ___STATEMENT FROM
    KIM DOTCOM

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  24. lovely says:

    [video src="http://video.ibtimes.co.uk/transcoder/480p/120/sequence-01-69-1490972738.mp4" /]

    Very cool!

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